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10/12/09
Bob Arum says that Floyd Mayweather is ducking the hardest fights
Bob Arum: 'Mayweather will not fight a fight where he believes there's any possibility he will lose.'
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According to Arum, a rival promoter:
"Mayweather's legacy for himself is to retire undefeated and say 'I have never lost.' Therefore, he will not take a chance like a normal fighter. Mayweather will not fight a fight where he believes there's any possibility he will lose."

Think he has a point? Or is he just stirring the pot?
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10/12/09
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That pacquiao fight is never going to happen for one reason,..........Arum can't stand mosley, he (arum) can't stand to see any promoter other than himself make money. Looking ahead, when pac-man wins and they sit down to negotiate.....Mayweather is going to want an 80-20 split of the purse. He won't go any lower than 65-35 and Arum's Pride won't let him accept that. Mark my words !

10/12/09
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Arum is definitely stirring the pot! Mayweather/ Pac-Man or Mayweather/ Cotto. Should be great fights! Would that gain popularity in boxing? That I don't know.

10/12/09
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Bob Arum is still alive?

10/12/09
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suzanneclark12 wrote:
Bob Arum is still alive?
Boxing is still alive?

10/12/09
2

I'm guessing that Arum is referring to Mayweather balking at fighting Shane Mosley until he sees if Pacquiao beats Cotto because that's the biggest $ fight out there.  If Cotto wins, fighting Mosley may bring in more $ for Mayweather so he could go that direction. 

Then again, Arum may have a point.  Mosley has looked like an absolute assassin in his last couple fights.  I wouldn't want to get in the ring with him either...  Mayweather could put him off a year or two until Mosley's pushing 40 and lost the edge he seems to have gotten back, meanwhile get through Cotto and Pacquiao to cement his legacy.  Boxing may be dying, but throw Paul Williams into that mix and I'm excited to see what happens in the next 2-3 years...


10/12/09
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That pacquiao fight is never going to happen for one reason,..........Arum can't stand mosley, he (arum) can't stand to see any promoter other than himself make money. Looking ahead, when pac-man wins and they sit down to negotiate.....Mayweather is going to want an 80-20 split of the purse. He won't go any lower than 65-35 and Arum's Pride won't let him accept that. Mark my words !

10/12/09
1
I meant to say mayweather in stead of mosley my bad

10/12/09
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Floyd will never be great,because in order to be great u have to take on fights,that people think u will lose or if floyd fights the winner of pacquaio vs cotto or mosley vs berto,but i think collazo or clottey would give floyd a very tough fight as well.

10/12/09
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So true. But a lot of other fighters are guilty of the same thing, just ask Paul Williams, Kelly Pavlik etc, etc.  Gone are the days of the truly great fighters (Leonard,Hearns,Hagler,Duran,Pryor,Benitez etc,etc) we might not never see a generation of fighters like that in our lifetime !

10/13/09
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hes right i like mayweather an all but he need to fight the winner out of the pacman an cotto thats all to it

10/13/09
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i don't think Mayweather does that way; it doesn't fit his person in the ringside.

10/13/09
0
who cares

10/13/09
0
Floyd is a cherry picker!!!!!!

10/13/09
1
Give the people what they want Pacquiao VS Mayweather! Interest in boxing is fading with the emergence of the ufc.

10/13/09
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Stirring the pot. Arnum just want's to promote the fight so he can make some $$$!!! 

10/13/09
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Mayweather has fought everyone that's ever been in front of him and he's won. Then after he wins people say that the guys he fought were bums. Well, guess what? Plenty of people bet on De La Hoya to win and Floyd beat him. Plenty of people thought that JMM would beat Floyd and Floyd destroyed him. Now those guys (De La Hoya and JMM) were bums?

Haters hate, period. Many people think Pac Man is the best in the world. Floyd will fight him and then when he beats him people will all of a sudden change their minds and say "Well, Pac Man really wasn't that good."

Floyd is the best fighter of this generation, deal with it.

10/13/09
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bamf528 wrote:
Give the people what they want Pacquiao VS Mayweather! Interest in boxing is fading with the emergence of the ufc.
Yeah, that's why Mayweather/JMM sold over 1 million PPV and generated over $52 million dollars and the most recent UFC PPV didn't even break 400k PPV sales.

10/13/09
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So name some top opponents Floyd should fight. Who exactly do you think he should fight that would *prove* his legacy that he hasn't fought? Make your list and post it. It's kind of unfair to say "Floyd hasn't fought top opponents" and then not list any of these alleged top opponents that he hasn't fought.

10/13/09
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alsportsfreak wrote:
Floyd is a cherry picker!!!!!!
So name the guys that you think Floyd should fight, and can't beat. Don't call the guy out for being a cherry picker unless you are going to say who it is that is out there that Floyd is dodging.

10/13/09
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Great fight but toooooo arogant. Just do you do job in the ring and he does. But he dosen't need to be such a mouth

10/13/09
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michealcruz wrote:
Great fight but toooooo arogant. Just do you do job in the ring and he does. But he dosen't need to be such a mouth
If he is the best it shouldn't matter who he fight in the devision he fights. Like Ali and Rocky M they fought everyone.

10/13/09
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mk_donley wrote:
Arum is definitely stirring the pot! Mayweather/ Pac-Man or Mayweather/ Cotto. Should be great fights! Would that gain popularity in boxing? That I don't know.
Mayweather will beat Cotto. Cotto is a good fighter but since his loss he isn't as agressive.

10/13/09
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BluDevil wrote:
So name the guys that you think Floyd should fight, and can't beat. Don't call the guy out for being a cherry picker unless you are going to say who it is that is out there that Floyd is dodging.
i totally agree. he has not dodged one fighter and will the best out there. but it has to make sense money wise

10/13/09
1
alsportsfreak wrote:
Floyd is a cherry picker!!!!!!
Shane Mosley, Pacman, Miguel Cotto, and Hopkins I mean there are a bunch of boxers he hides from and Mosley confronted him after the Marquez fight and he looked scared!

10/13/09
1
well on the sugar shane one. he tried to fight sugar a long time ago and sugar shane didnt want n o part of it. now he see there could be a payday now all of a sudden he wants to fight when its the twilight of his career. hopkins is a little to big and cotto i think is next and paquiao right after that one

10/14/09
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Mayweather and Pacquiao I am certain are going to reach an agreement to fight. I guess Bob Arum is trying to goad Mayweather because this will be one of the biggest pay fights in history. The primary objective of professional boxing is to make money and as Floyd so often points out in intervies: If it don't make money, it don't make sense. As long as a big pay day is on the cards for Mayweather he will take it. Arum is merely jumping the gun to secure the fight because of Floyd's remarks of retirement following his victory over Marquez.This is all publicity people...FLOYD MAYWEATHER Jr and MANNY PACQUIAO WILL HAPPEN!!! 

10/14/09
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BluDevil wrote:
Mayweather has fought everyone that's ever been in front of him and he's won. Then after he wins people say that the guys he fought were bums. Well, guess what? Plenty of people bet on De La Hoya to win and Floyd beat him. Plenty of people thought that JMM would beat Floyd and Floyd destroyed him. Now those guys (De La Hoya and JMM) were bums?

Haters hate, period. Many people think Pac Man is the best in the world. Floyd will fight him and then when he beats him people will all of a sudden change their minds and say "Well, Pac Man really wasn't that good."

Floyd is the best fighter of this generation, deal with it.
Amen

10/14/09
1
Oscar was past his prime and floyd still struggled with a old de la hoya and barely won a split decision,pacman made oscar quit on his stool,it took floyd forever to ko hatton,pacman once again showed floyd how its done,i'm saying all this incase u bring up the marquez vs pacman fights.Atleast pacquaio is taking chances by fighting guys u think he can't beat and he destroys them,now can u say the same about floyd?.

10/14/09
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adriene_skills wrote:
Oscar was past his prime and floyd still struggled with a old de la hoya and barely won a split decision,pacman made oscar quit on his stool,it took floyd forever to ko hatton,pacman once again showed floyd how its done,i'm saying all this incase u bring up the marquez vs pacman fights.Atleast pacquaio is taking chances by fighting guys u think he can't beat and he destroys them,now can u say the same about floyd?.
are you serious? he destroyed oscar, he made oscar look like a shell of himself. did  you watch that fight or hatton either. he destroyed hatton when everyone thought hatton was going to knock out floyd cmon man watch these fights. i wont even comment on juan manuel marquez

10/14/09
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Pacman moved from lightweight to welterweight and punished oscar,and unlike floyd he went to hattons weight at 140 and destroyed him,floyd is making smaller guy's move up to fight him and pacman is moving up or fighting the guy's at there weight.What pacquaio is doing is why i put him number 1 p4p,until floyd moves up in class or cleans out his division he will wont be p4p in my eyes and most the true boxing fans and not the floyd fanatics.

10/14/09
1
first off i am a true boxing fan. he has punished everyone put in front of him. so until he is dispatched he is the best pound for pound. and by the way he is still undefeated can pacman say that?

10/14/09
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I will give u truth on floyd,the only prime fight floyd has fought since corrales is hatton,and he made him move to welterweight to fight him,judah lost his prime,when the australian kostya tszyu took him down under lol.

10/14/09
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and when did this became new, news ? he ducks more big fights than anyone and always has....unless you count the big show.even that was fixed and he almost lost.

10/14/09
1
alsportsfreak wrote:
Shane Mosley, Pacman, Miguel Cotto, and Hopkins I mean there are a bunch of boxers he hides from and Mosley confronted him after the Marquez fight and he looked scared!
Ok, he tried several times to fight Mosley but Mosley wouldn't fight him. Until now, it seems. But ok, Floyd should fight Shane. I'd like to see that.

How can he be dodging Pacman when Pacman *just* moved up to Floyd's weight class this year? How is it dodging a guy when he's not even in your same division? If Pacman beats Cotto, then Floyd will fight him, and beat him.

Cotto, same deal. If Cotto didn't already have a deal signed to fight Pacman then Floyd would be fighting him next. But since Cotto already had a deal done with Pacman, Floyd is waiting to see who wins before he picks his next opponent. But if Cotto beats Pacman, Floyd will fight him.

So again, how is he a cherrypicker because he hasn't fought Shane, who he tried to fight but wouldn't fight him, and if he didn't fight Pacman or Cotto because they are already fighting each other?

And Hopkins? You've gotta be kidding me. Hopkins was the middleweight champ for a decade. He's now a light heavyweight. Floyd was a Jr. Welterweight and is a Welterweight now. Do you know the difference between weight classes? Floyd and B-Hop wouldn't fight each other because they aren't even close to the same weight class. B-Hop wouldn't come down that much in weight and Floyd wouldn't go up that much in weight.

So you are seriously basing your claim that Floyd is a cherrypicker on the fact that he doesn't fight Middleweights and Light Heavyweights? If that's so, then I guess EVERY SINGLE OTHER FIGHTER IN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION is a cherrypicker since they don't fight Middleweights and Light Heavyweights too.

10/14/09
1
Wow, just wow. So Oscar De La Hoya, the HOF boxer, the (at one time) highest grossing boxer in history isn't better than Andre Berto, Kermit Cintron, Joshua Clottey.....

Floyd will fight either Cotto or Pac-Man, whoever wins. If Shane is still around as champ after that fight, Floyd will fight him too.

Berto might be in line to earn a shot at Floyd if he keeps winning. But he's young and hasn't really proven himself against top talent yet. Who is his biggest win against? Miguel Rodriguez? His career doesn't compare to Floyd so no way he's earned a shot yet.

Kermit Cintron? Give me a break. He dodged Clottey when he was the mandatory challenger and fought Sergio Gabriel Martinez instead. Who has Cintron beat? He's lost to Margarito, and he's never fought anyone of major note.

Clottey? He can't beat Cotto. If Floyd can beat either Cotto or Pac Man, it should be pretty clear that he'd be able to handle Clottey.

Paul Williams is the man, I think. I think he can beat anyone. After he destroys Pavlik, I'd love to see him fight Floyd. But frankly, there is more money for Floyd, Pacman, Cotto or Mosley in matchups against one another and *none* of those guys has the balls to take on Paul Williams. So if you are gonna call out Floyd for not fighting Williams, you'd better call out all those other guys too.

If you are gonna say that Floyd can't ever be considered great until he beats all the guys on your list then you are just looking for ways to hate on him. But after he beats Cotto, Pacman and Mosley will you change your mind? No, I dobut it. You'll just start saying what everyone says now about De La Hoya, Hatton and JMM, i.e. they were bums and Floyd should have beat them. And you'll say "So what? He beat De La Hoya, Hatton, JMM, Pacman, Cotto and Mosley... but he never beat Kermit Cintron so he's not great and he just dodges al lthe best fighters." What a laugh that will be when I start reading that mess.

And I guarantee that before Floyd beat JMM, you'd have had him in this same list.

10/14/09
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adriene_skills wrote:
Oscar was past his prime and floyd still struggled with a old de la hoya and barely won a split decision,pacman made oscar quit on his stool,it took floyd forever to ko hatton,pacman once again showed floyd how its done,i'm saying all this incase u bring up the marquez vs pacman fights.Atleast pacquaio is taking chances by fighting guys u think he can't beat and he destroys them,now can u say the same about floyd?.
Ok, I can make the same argument the other way against Pacman. Pacman got a draw against JMM in their first fight and barely won his 2nd fight against him. But Floyd iced JMM out, JMM didn't even win a single round against him. So Floyd showed Pacman how its done, didn't he?

10/14/09
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daddybair33 wrote:
and when did this became new, news ? he ducks more big fights than anyone and always has....unless you count the big show.even that was fixed and he almost lost.
Name me one guy who ever had a contract on the table with Floyd and then Floyd didn't sign to fight. What big fights is he ducking? Name the fighters that he's ducked. Shane ducked Floyd. Floyd did fight Oscar, Ricky, JMM and he's gonna fight whoever wins between Pacman and Cotto and he'll fight Shane after that if Shane is still the champ.

10/14/09
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alsportsfreak wrote:
Shane Mosley, Pacman, Miguel Cotto, and Hopkins I mean there are a bunch of boxers he hides from and Mosley confronted him after the Marquez fight and he looked scared!
The only reason Floyd faught Marquez was because Marquez was from a lighter division and gained weight just to fight Floyd. Floyd knew he had the upper hand he knew he was bigger and physically stonger. So that would be the same thing with Hopkins and Floyd, thats how Marquez felt but he didn't care he faught Floyd anyways, he was on defense mode the entire fight but he faught him even though he was a huge underdog.

10/15/09
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floyd ducked 3 fighters that mosley fought,forrest wanted floyd after he beat de la hoya,margarito said he would do to floyd what chavez did to roger and we all know floyd ducked him,floyd said he wanted winky and winky called his bluff.To make things clear mosley has fought guys in there prime like forrest,de la hoya,winky and mosley asked floyd back at lightweight if he wanted to fight and floyd didn't want none and instead mosley moved up to welterweight  to fight oscar and floyd finally moved up to lightweight.Mosley beat de la hoya at his best and mayweather struggled with oscar past his prime,pacquaio is a complete fighter now and everybody hating on him,he moved up from lightweight to welterweight and made oscar quit,he then moved to jr welter and crushed hatton who never lost there and now he will beat the brakes off cotto,stop doubting the man.

10/15/09
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alsportsfreak wrote:
The only reason Floyd faught Marquez was because Marquez was from a lighter division and gained weight just to fight Floyd. Floyd knew he had the upper hand he knew he was bigger and physically stonger. So that would be the same thing with Hopkins and Floyd, thats how Marquez felt but he didn't care he faught Floyd anyways, he was on defense mode the entire fight but he faught him even though he was a huge underdog.
Don't kid yourself. Of course Marquez cared about the weight. But Marquez cared more about the $$$ so he came up and took the fight.

Floyd and B-Hop are both at such different points in their career that they don't need to move up and down in weight like that in order to get a huge payday.

10/15/09
1
I think Williams would KO just about anyone right now at 160 or 154. He's a beast. I'd love to see Berto get to fight some more guys. In fact, if nobody will fight either Williams or Berto, perhaps they'll match up. I'd love to see that.

10/15/09
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BluDevil wrote:
Don't kid yourself. Of course Marquez cared about the weight. But Marquez cared more about the $$$ so he came up and took the fight.

Floyd and B-Hop are both at such different points in their career that they don't need to move up and down in weight like that in order to get a huge payday.
Well, It's out there, Anything can happen!

10/16/09
1
How about Jr. vs Jr.? Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Julio Cezar Chavez Jr.?

10/16/09
1
adriene_skills wrote:
Floyd will never be great,because in order to be great u have to take on fights,that people think u will lose or if floyd fights the winner of pacquaio vs cotto or mosley vs berto,but i think collazo or clottey would give floyd a very tough fight as well.
are you from some other planet?  Mayweather is undefeated and undisputed champion in several weight classes..he has beat the best they put up against him and now you want him to fight has beens or wanna be's..its all about money and he will fight the biggest purse..he aint got nothin to prove!

10/16/09
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BluDevil wrote:
I think Williams would KO just about anyone right now at 160 or 154. He's a beast. I'd love to see Berto get to fight some more guys. In fact, if nobody will fight either Williams or Berto, perhaps they'll match up. I'd love to see that.
do you also believe that pigs can fly?

10/18/09
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suzanneclark12 wrote:
do you also believe that pigs can fly?
I take it you have a differing opinion of Paul Williams skills? Ok then, care to make a wager on the upcoming Williams vs Pavlik fight?

10/19/09
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(Edited by tragerueb)
very alive,in-fact his still kicking
I mean Boxing

 
 

10/19/09
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suzanneclark12 wrote:
are you from some other planet?  Mayweather is undefeated and undisputed champion in several weight classes..he has beat the best they put up against him and now you want him to fight has beens or wanna be's..its all about money and he will fight the biggest purse..he aint got nothin to prove!
Mayweather, he has nothing to prove. All fight of him that I've seen was boring I cant help but fall asleep. If he will be given the chance to fight with Manny I waste time watching I'd rather go fishing at my swimming
pool
 

10/19/09
1
(Edited by tragerueb)
he beat those guys with what, run and jab? look at his last fight, it has no excitement, no combination punches, he only got good defense but that's not enough to take down someone like Pacquiao
 
 

10/19/09
1
Tarabusaw wrote:
How about Jr. vs Jr.? Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Julio Cezar Chavez Jr.?
that would be interesting
 

10/19/09
0
what do you think about Manny Pacquiao running for a government office in the Phils
 

10/19/09
3
Mayweather will knock Chavez Jr. the HELL OUT!!! In any event Chavez Sr. will never allow his son to fight Floyd until Mayweather has lumbago and cataracts and is 100 years old...then too Jr Chavez would have to ensure he grabs Floyd's walking stick to even out the competition...

10/19/09
2
Arum is trying to build up brownie points in order to make some money on a Mayweather fight. Mayweather is undefeated and has beaten others who were considered at the top of their game.

10/20/09
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BluDevil wrote:
I take it you have a differing opinion of Paul Williams skills? Ok then, care to make a wager on the upcoming Williams vs Pavlik fight?
Paul Williams of "Phantom of the Paradise"..he fights too?

10/20/09
1
suzanneclark12 wrote:
Paul Williams of "Phantom of the Paradise"..he fights too?
Huh? Not sure I've heard that one before. I'm talking about Paul Williams, 2 time WBO Welterweight Champ, 37-1 with 27 KOs.

11/14/09
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dwyermaker wrote:

I'm guessing that Arum is referring to Mayweather balking at fighting Shane Mosley until he sees if Pacquiao beats Cotto because that's the biggest $ fight out there.  If Cotto wins, fighting Mosley may bring in more $ for Mayweather so he could go that direction. 

Then again, Arum may have a point.  Mosley has looked like an absolute assassin in his last couple fights.  I wouldn't want to get in the ring with him either...  Mayweather could put him off a year or two until Mosley's pushing 40 and lost the edge he seems to have gotten back, meanwhile get through Cotto and Pacquiao to cement his legacy.  Boxing may be dying, but throw Paul Williams into that mix and I'm excited to see what happens in the next 2-3 years...

I just want to say that Mayweather wanted to fight shane like two years ago, And shane's wife would not let him fight. If Mayweather smash shane the the haters would say, all you did was beat a old man. I hope whoever wins the fight tonight fights Mayweather next. I hope mayweather does not ask for a crazy split.

11/14/09
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alsportsfreak wrote:
Shane Mosley, Pacman, Miguel Cotto, and Hopkins I mean there are a bunch of boxers he hides from and Mosley confronted him after the Marquez fight and he looked scared!
well if you remember shane had a chance to fight Mayweather but he wanted to get his tooth look at. I think about two years ago.Right now shane is looking for a fight to go out on and if Mayweather does fight him and smash than what you say he is to old than. you will have to tell me why you put Hopkins in there I dont think he would make weight and Mayweather sure can go up to 168

11/14/09
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adriene_skills wrote:
Pacman moved from lightweight to welterweight and punished oscar,and unlike floyd he went to hattons weight at 140 and destroyed him,floyd is making smaller guy's move up to fight him and pacman is moving up or fighting the guy's at there weight.What pacquaio is doing is why i put him number 1 p4p,until floyd moves up in class or cleans out his division he will wont be p4p in my eyes and most the true boxing fans and not the floyd fanatics.
you just don't like Mayweather just say it.

11/14/09
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tragerueb wrote:
Mayweather, he has nothing to prove. All fight of him that I've seen was boring I cant help but fall asleep. If he will be given the chance to fight with Manny I waste time watching I'd rather go fishing at my swimming
pool
 
you fell asleep because you are not a true boxing fan

 
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