TCU is an upset of Texas away from being in the National Title Game.

The media and coaches control 2/3rds of the BCS.  They'll make sure that doesn't happen.

how do the media and coaches control how the players play? either way glad to see TCU where they belong

And Ohio State is ahead of USC when USC beat them. Rankings aren't based on head-to-head matchups and posts like these are worthless.

...Or maybe the pollsters will put TCU in the title game just to make the BCS look good, effectively blinding the public from the truth. Money speaks.

Play on the field is irrelevant. They vote on how these teams are ranked and it wouldn't be the first time they've manipulated the vote to get a certain matchup in the BCS title game.

Yeah the Coaches and Harris poll will screw them....unless Texas loses in the Big 12 title game to one of the awful teams from the North (yeah I know we lost to Nebraska.

Exactly.  It doesn't matter at all what happens now, it's going to be Texas vs SEC Champion.  The BCS will rig it as such.

And we are once again back to the beginning of the rainbow, needing a playoff system.

You mean upset of Florida and 'Bama

What happened to chockla? They dropped from the rankings.

No because the voters will give the SEC teams the benefit of the doubt even though they shouldn't get it.

i figured TCU would jump Boise due to their and cincinnatti's lackluster wins. Who knew the BCS buster would be living in the heart of the football world, Texas.

These rankings and the rankings of the last 10 years bolster an old school anti west coast bias. Really, Ohio ahead of USC, USC ahead of Oregon? Strength of schedule has become a joke. None of the big three, Fl., bama, or Texas have agreed to play a top contender from any one of the three west cost conferences. Props to Cincinnati, they scheduled Oregon st and Fresno. If a school expects to play for a title or in a BCS bowl they should have to compete against quality competition from outside their conference.
Just wait, there is a high likely hood we will see TCU vs Boise, as we did last year. We will be told that this is what we want to see. What are we, stupid? That is BULL. We want to see: Florida vs. Boise, Bama vs. TCU, Texas vs. Oregon, and GT vs. Cincinnati. If Florida, Bama, and Texas refuse to step up their schedule they need to go to the back of the line.  

Yes I agree. We do need a playoff system but until that happens the only ones that can control this crap is the media and coaches. Oh and some computer geek that puts in some numbers. The strength of schedule is a joke because I am a Gator fan and know all about weak non-conference games. I wish the top teams would play a stronger non-conference schedule but we dont get the opportunity to make the schedules. That is left up to the AD's and the coaches. I dont know of any coach that wants to take the chance of losing a star player before the conference games begin. If the playoff system in Div 2 & 3 works why cant it work in Div 1.

Well only thing i can say PLAY OFF and lets see who is the true national champion the winner from each conference .Have a play off then and only then it will be far for the big school who gets on tv every week and the school who dose not get the attention from tv a far chance...Just like basketball loser goes home winner goes on...Come on NCAA what do you have to say?????????? Write your congress man or women [they seem to want us to write them about every thing else]..

Could not agree with you more. Matching BSU vs TCU is just a way for the big schools to save face. Not a one of them want to see TCU or Boise in a BCS game. Non BCS schools are already 3-1 vs BCS schools. The last thing the good ole boy system of College football wants is to loose 2 BCS games in the same year to Non BCS schools. Hell it is pretty much a give in that a play off system will never happen...so how about this. If you go into the season ranked in the top 25 then require teams to only play other top 25 teams in their non conference games. That would give non bcs schools a shot at proving themselves and force the sec and big 12 to not load up on division 1 aa teams to pad their non conference schedule.

Things more accurate than the BCS voters/computers:

That would be greeat except the schedules are done for the next two years at least. That would solve alot of problems. I dont think that Urban Meyer or any other top team is afraid to play tthe non BCS schools. I would love to see the Gators play Boise St. or TCU if not both.

maybe not in a bcs game but in the regular season hell ya they are. I understand schedules are made 2 years out but at least cut out div 1 aa games from perennial top 25 teams. when is the last time Florida has even played a team close to the top 50 in a non conference game? Simply by having teams play a tougher non conference schedule will clear up a lot of arguments in the bcs polls. For instance Florida vs Boise or TCU in the regular season. Boise or TCU wins they have a legit argument.

Has there ever been a poll that wasn't wacked out? At least ND isn't in this one.

brian,
We don't need to make a rule requiring a school to compete against another. Simply the teams that don't step up should not be considered for a BCS birth...not to mention the financial gifts to their school and conference. USC should not only play Ohio st and ND, but should have also played a team like Utah, TCU, or BYU. However USC's schedule would seem inappropriate or foreign to the administration at Fl, Bama, and Texas. An interesting observation is that outside of USC, Oregon, and arguably Cincinnati no big names worked their way to their ranking. We were just told "This is this, and that is that."
Referring to my previous post, strength of schedule is not a valid rational to produce an accurate team rank. The 85 scholarship limit has all but wiped out the lack of parody in college football. It has elevated the popularity of the sport while exposing the faults in the elitist armor of the BCS. If anyone disagrees please enlighten us as to why a close win over Indiana caries more weight in the computer rankings than a blow-out of BYU or even Hawaii for that matter. 
Believe it or not this is another example of our tax dollars at work. I hope politicians like Orin Hatch can get the job done. We may need to look at strategically redirecting federal funds until this issue is properly handled. No new laws, but no incentives for the "good old boy club."

I will start off by saying we need a playoff system. I am a Gator fan and every Gator fan I know wants a playoff system.

Now as long as the BCS exists Teams like Florida, Bama and so on will not schedule big non-con games for the simple fact of if you lose to them and then go on to lose a conference game you are out of the NC hunt.
It does not make any since to stack the deck against you with the way the current system is. The BCS does not reward you for playing and winning those games but they will sure as hell hurt you if you lose them so why take that chance. The gaol is to get to and win the BCS not show how big your balls are. Teams are not scared to play Boise and TCU they just know that it can only hurt them and not help them.

If the change the rules like you guys are saying that would help, but until then they wont and should not take that chance. Hate the system not the teams that play within it.

The SEC has been one of the biggest supporters of a playoff system it is the Pac 10 and Big 10 who don't want to give up the Rose Bowl and the money. Ohio State president Gordon Gee  has been quoted as saying "They will wrench a playoff system out of my cold, dead hands."

BigTone the SEC is one of the conferences that benefit most from the current system. As you stated there is no reason to play any real competition because it will only hurt there chances at a title game. So while the SEC and other big conferences can get away with playing weak teams because of their prestigious conference we have teams like Boise, TCU and Utah that cant hardly get anyone to play them. So we have Boise who has dominated their conference like no other team has in the last 6 years and has been undefeated in the regular season 3 of the last 5 (after this year 4 of 6) but their conference is weaker and they only beat Oregon they get no shot at a BCS game. Boise practically had to apologize for only beating LA Tech by 10 points after they traveled 2000 miles to do so. Meanwhile LSU finally travels farther then 45 mins away for a game and barely beats a weaker Pac 10 opponent. Alabama struggles against UT to win by 2 at home....nothing is said. Bottom line is as much as fans say the Sec wants a playoff system that is not the case. The play off system would be great but will never happen. I don't hate the big conference teams but I do hate when the big conference teams hide behind their conference. 10-2 Ohio st. last year more worthy then a undefeated Boise....logic says tougher schedule better conference ...Ohio st. goes to the Bcs game. That is Bull Sh!@t. Unfortunately Chuck is right...politics and money control college football...there is no real interest in seeing who is truly the best team in college football. I just one time would like to see big conference teams admit that...instead of saying hey play in our conference then you can go to a bcs game...then in the next breath refuse to schedule that team because it would hurt their own chances.

Based on the system every  BCS conference benefits from it none more so the the Big 10 and Pac 10 who have weak conferences. The SEC and its fans would welcome a playoff system. What better way is there to prove you are the best then a playoff system


I sorry but I do not give much credit for going undefeated in a conference with the teams the WAC and MAC have come on now you really can't think they compare on any level to any BCS conference. Please tell me you don't think Boise would have been undefeated this year or any year if they played in the SEC or one of the other BCS conferences. The only people who seem to be complaining and saying the conference shouldn't matter
are the ones who either play in a weak one or are in a non- BCS conference. Imagine that.

 Weather you or anyone else likes it or not the conference does and should have influence on the big picture when you have any other system besides a playoff. people talk about the middle of the road and lower teams in the SEC and other conferences and say they suck your right but at least people have heard of them when was the last time a team from the WAC or MAC besides Boise,TCU and Utah been ranked in the top 25 if any bet you don't know without looking it up.

People do not give tough conference play enough merit. Boise TCU and Utah are they only teams from those conferences that should even be playing 1A football. There is something seriously wrong if you can't go undefeated in conferences like that.

The system is flawed and BS no argument with that but IMO you have to be stupid to stack the deck against yourself. I hope all the BCS teams start not scheduling big non-con games so that we can have one team from every conference be unbeaten then they would have to implement a playoff system. 

You must mean auto bid conferences because non auto conferences sure as heck do not. Have you played sports? Do you know how hard it is at any level, no matter what schedule you play, it is to go undefeated? Florida has NEVER done it. Boise would love to play Sec teams but for whatever reason Sec teams do not want to play Boise. Boise is 13-1 against BCS teams over the last few years....your mighty Gators cant boast that kind of win percentage. Continue to down play the succes of Utah, TCU, and Boise and make excusses while Sec teams will not schedule them....then in the same breath tell us how they cant play with the big teams. Tell me how weak the schedule is then watch Florida play Florida International, Citidel, and Troy. You hope all BCS schools continue to dodge good  Non-BCS schools? See that type of thinking is the problem.

Apparently you don't get it because you feel snub I agree with your complaint. I am merely telling you why it wont happen. and that it would be stupid to do it with the current system. I told you the reason no one will play them it's not worth the risk. weather you like it or not and I personally don't that is just the way it is.

Now on to the other things you have said. Yes the cupcakes that Florida and other BCS teams play are week the difference is once we get into conference play we play teams like UGA, LSU ,UT, Bama, Auburn and the rest of the SEC and the other BCS teams play teams people have heard of and who has been ranked in the last 50 years and some have won NCs besides the three teams mentioned can you say that no. Your beloved Broncos play no one in side there conference hell I bet Vandy could go undefeated in the MAC and WAC.

I am not saying you don't have a good team and if Florida were to play them it would not be a walk in the park although I still think Florida would win. I am saying without the backing and strength of an in conference schedule you will always get shafted or dissed until a playoff system comes around and you guys either win it all or make it really far.

You misunderstood me when I said I hope team keep scheduling weak non-con games and I said non-con games not non- BCS games. I think that might be the only way we get what we want and that is a playoff system.