FanIQ News: Dustin Pedroia blames grounds crew for Red Sox loss in ALDS

10/13/09

1	Wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of manure gets left out near second base in Fenway next season. Hopefully in the summer.

10/13/09

alsportsfreak

0	Oh yea blame it on the crew, BoSox are going down hill, Yanks are taking over.

10/13/09

ary201

3	Stay classy dustin.

10/13/09

Pat

2	alsportsfreak wrote: Oh yea blame it on the crew, BoSox are going down hill, Yanks are taking over. That's a foolish statement. For starters, the Red Sox are much younger than the Yankees. Also, the Yankees have always been right up there with any team in the league. It's not like the Red Sox dominated the division or anything, even in the past few years.

10/13/09

afterj

1	(Edited by afterj) Haha What a crock he who makes millions has to put the heat on someone who earns maybe what 65k a year? if that.

10/13/09

candeeladee

4	Get me some cheese to go with that whine...

10/13/09

elevenbravo138again

2	This kind or thing hold more water if the field is extra damp, the grass is super short or super long, to either slow down or facilitate the running game, but there did not seem to be a big advantage for either team in a surface that's just a bit uneven.

10/13/09

TurkogluForMVP

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Pat wrote:

That's a foolish statement. For starters, the Red Sox are much younger than the Yankees. Also, the Yankees have always been right up there with any team in the league. It's not like the Red Sox dominated the division or anything, even in the past few years.

Eh not as foolish as you may think.... Sox have lost the true star power... Ortiz is getting old. Pabelbon just isnt what he used to be and the A class pitching rotation that once was is now a B- rotation at best. Youk is getting a little older and things seem to go down hill. Yankee's just had a way better year than the red sox.

65k? haha yeah right. sign me up for raking the damn infield.

10/13/09

Pat

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TurkogluForMVP wrote:

Eh not as foolish as you may think.... Sox have lost the true star power... Ortiz is getting old. Pabelbon just isnt what he used to be and the A class pitching rotation that once was is now a B- rotation at best. Youk is getting a little older and things seem to go down hill. Yankee's just had a way better year than the red sox.

65k? haha yeah right. sign me up for raking the damn infield.

Right, but Daniel Bard is already cemented as the long-term replacement for Papelbon, and Buchholz looks like he's going to be a very good starter. And seriously... let's be realistic here... do you think the Red Sox are going to stay put in the offseason? Or do you think they're going to work on signing Jason Bay and/or a replacement, shoring up the catcher and shortstop positions, and replacing Ortiz after 2010, at the latest?

It's foolish to say that the Red Sox are on the decline, because their nucleus is very young, and also because everyone knows they'll spend some money to maintain the quality of the team. Other teams may come and go, but the Red Sox and Yankees will always be contenders.

10/13/09

jasonwrites

0	Man up DP. Only losers make excuses. And by that I mean that losers as individuals, not that your team lost-- because you can retain dignity in the face of that.

10/13/09

Justs

0	What a whiny little weasel! Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Angels play on exactly the same field? Maybe he should quit worrying so much about dirt and spend a little more time thinking about that .167 BA.

10/13/09

bamf528

1	Boo hoo, that was one play! Pedroia sucked @$$ the whole series, this just makes him look like a sore loser. Somebody please just beat the Yankees, thats all I ask.

10/13/09

candeeladee

0	bamf528 wrote: Boo hoo, that was one play! Pedroia sucked @$$ the whole series, this just makes him look like a sore loser. Somebody please just beat the Yankees, thats all I ask. I'm sure hoping the Angels will!

10/13/09

Justs

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Pat wrote:

Right, but Daniel Bard is already cemented as the long-term replacement for Papelbon, and Buchholz looks like he's going to be a very good starter. And seriously... let's be realistic here... do you think the Red Sox are going to stay put in the offseason? Or do you think they're going to work on signing Jason Bay and/or a replacement, shoring up the catcher and shortstop positions, and replacing Ortiz after 2010, at the latest?

It's foolish to say that the Red Sox are on the decline, because their nucleus is very young, and also because everyone knows they'll spend some money to maintain the quality of the team. Other teams may come and go, but the Red Sox and Yankees will always be contenders.

"Yankees and Red Sox will always be contenders." Always? You MUST be from the East Coast. I get what you are trying to say, but either you are really young or lived in a cave until recent times.

Yankees 88'-94' put together some of the worst clubs in their history. Though, I would say that generally the Yankees do seem to linger and figure a vast majority of the time. Boston on the other hand was not even a part of the "always" conversation until they beat the Yankees in 2004. Red Sox '47-"74? Red Sox '78-85'? even when they were in the mix (Red Sox '87-'02, five post season appearances, one series win) they came up short. The Red Sox as a "perennial" winner is basically the past 4 years and they have been good. Maybe even great in 2004, but to say that any team is always a winner is a little short sighted. Even the Yankees with all their payroll power have had dry spells. I had waited 26 years for my own team to even make a WS in 2002 and now they are in the conversation every year, but that can easily change.

If you look at the high points of this decade, I think you can say that the Red Sox are in decline. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are going to become a losing squad, but they are certainly not at the crescendo that they reached in 2004 or even in 2007 (when they probably had an even more complete team.) I would have to agree with Pat that they are in decline and that they will need to make some significant moves in order to remain playoff contenders every year.

10/13/09

Pat

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Justs wrote:

"Yankees and Red Sox will always be contenders." Always? You MUST be from the East Coast. I get what you are trying to say, but either you are really young or lived in a cave until recent times.

Yankees 88'-94' put together some of the worst clubs in their history. Though, I would say that generally the Yankees do seem to linger and figure a vast majority of the time. Boston on the other hand was not even a part of the "always" conversation until they beat the Yankees in 2004. Red Sox '47-"74? Red Sox '78-85'? even when they were in the mix (Red Sox '87-'02, five post season appearances, one series win) they came up short. The Red Sox as a "perennial" winner is basically the past 4 years and they have been good. Maybe even great in 2004, but to say that any team is always a winner is a little short sighted. Even the Yankees with all their payroll power have had dry spells. I had waited 26 years for my own team to even make a WS in 2002 and now they are in the conversation every year, but that can easily change.

If you look at the high points of this decade, I think you can say that the Red Sox are in decline. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are going to become a losing squad, but they are certainly not at the crescendo that they reached in 2004 or even in 2007 (when they probably had an even more complete team.) I would have to agree with Pat that they are in decline and that they will need to make some significant moves in order to remain playoff contenders every year.

If they continue their current management patterns, then yes, they are set up very well to be perennial contenders.

And yes, I agree the Red Sox will need to make significant moves. But I believe they WILL make those moves, because that is what the current regime has been willing to do. I don't see that changing.

10/13/09

jevinusmc

2	Wow, I had more respect for Pedroia before I read that. If he truly believes that, don't spew it to the media, talk to the guys behind closed doors. If he's already talked to them behind closed doors - still don't spew it to the media.

10/13/09

Scott

4	First Adam Wainwright complains about the Dodger fans waving white towels and now Dustin Pedroia blames the grounds crew for the Red Sox losing the series. Is it really that hard to admit that the better team won in these instances?

10/13/09

alsportsfreak

0	alsportsfreak wrote: Oh yea blame it on the crew, BoSox are going down hill, Yanks are taking over. Yea OK, lets just see who emerges on top next year.

10/13/09

THE_Smoot

1	Well, the ground "swept" the dirt, didn't they? So, yes, Pedroia can blame the groundscrew for the "sweep".

10/13/09

dumpsterdave6

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Pat wrote:

If they continue their current management patterns, then yes, they are set up very well to be perennial contenders.

And yes, I agree the Red Sox will need to make significant moves. But I believe they WILL make those moves, because that is what the current regime has been willing to do. I don't see that changing.

It must be nice to have faith in your organization. As a Cubs fan, I do envy you.

10/13/09

Pat

0	dumpsterdave6 wrote: It must be nice to have faith in your organization. As a Cubs fan, I do envy you. But when did the organization earn that faith? When the new ownership came in. And what are the Cubs getting VERY soon? New ownership. Hold your head up, see what Ricketts has to offer. For the sake of all of Cubs Nation, I hope you're all pleasantly surprised. You all deserve it.

10/13/09

afterj

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TurkogluForMVP wrote:

Eh not as foolish as you may think.... Sox have lost the true star power... Ortiz is getting old. Pabelbon just isnt what he used to be and the A class pitching rotation that once was is now a B- rotation at best. Youk is getting a little older and things seem to go down hill. Yankee's just had a way better year than the red sox.

65k? haha yeah right. sign me up for raking the damn infield.

I would rake it too for that much a year, I was being considerate of D.ped with that quote so it didn't seem so much of a salary gap, you know millions compared to 26k a year just seems much worse than me saying it was round 65k instead:P

10/13/09

TurkogluForMVP

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Pat wrote:

Right, but Daniel Bard is already cemented as the long-term replacement for Papelbon, and Buchholz looks like he's going to be a very good starter. And seriously... let's be realistic here... do you think the Red Sox are going to stay put in the offseason? Or do you think they're going to work on signing Jason Bay and/or a replacement, shoring up the catcher and shortstop positions, and replacing Ortiz after 2010, at the latest?

It's foolish to say that the Red Sox are on the decline, because their nucleus is very young, and also because everyone knows they'll spend some money to maintain the quality of the team. Other teams may come and go, but the Red Sox and Yankees will always be contenders.

If there was a salary cap then I would say Sox are on a decline because there is only so much you can invest... but the revenues of the yankees and Sox are bananas. Fun thing about baseball though is money doesnt = success every year. I dont think the Sox will sit this offseason but I was just making a point that in comparison it seems like the Yankees made the better moves as of late and the Sox got swept... not normal in recent years.

10/13/09

Pat

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TurkogluForMVP wrote:

If there was a salary cap then I would say Sox are on a decline because there is only so much you can invest... but the revenues of the yankees and Sox are bananas. Fun thing about baseball though is money doesnt = success every year. I dont think the Sox will sit this offseason but I was just making a point that in comparison it seems like the Yankees made the better moves as of late and the Sox got swept... not normal in recent years.

I disagree. The Yankees didn't make the better moves, they made the MOST moves. The Red Sox were relatively inactive this offseason, but then at the trade deadline they picked up Victor Martinez, easily the best bat that was moved at the deadline. The Yankees, on the other hand, signed three of the biggest free agents of the year. Not necessarily better moves, especially when you consider the money that they spent on them. Good moves for the Yankees, perhaps, but those exact moves would be crippling, horrible moves for other teams.

This offseason, I believe the Yankees will be the ones who are relatively inactive, mostly because they will probably be coming off a World Series victory. The Red Sox, on the other hand, recognize their needs, and will most likely address them this winter.

10/14/09

TurkogluForMVP

1	well its very rare for a world series champ to make more moves than a ALDS loser in a sweep. Im not bashing you or your team at all... at least you made the playoffs and stepped up when you needed to as opposed to the marlins getting close and messing it up.

10/14/09

daddybair33

0	and the best excuse goes to...............