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11/4/09
Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz isn't going to trump up support for Iowa's BCS chances
Kirk Ferentz says he's not going to campaign for Iowa's BCS chances... probably because he knows it doesn't matter.
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Iowa is still undefeated, but coach Kirk Ferentz says that he's not going to do the usual campaigning for his teams that most coaches do when they think they have a chance to make it to the BCS Championship game.

"I am so uninterested in that right now. We'll probably end up where we belong at the end of the day. The drama and the suspense are not killing me."

In the end, he's probably right. Even if they go undefeated, Iowa probably won't be invited to the BCS title game. And based on their overall performance so far, they don't deserve it.
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11/4/09
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 By overall performance, I suspect you are factoring in the following unimpressive statistics:

Number of opponents defeated that currently have winning records:

1.  Iowa                6

2.  Cincinnati        4

     TCU                4

4.  Oregon            3

5.  Boise State      2

 

Total won-lost records (and winning %) of defeated opponents:

1.  Iowa                44-31     .586

2.  Oregon            29-28     .508

3.  TCU                34-33     .507

4.  Cincinnati        30-36     .454

5.  Boise State     27-37     .421

 

Total won-lost records of opponents defeated in their home stadiums (i.e. road wins)

1.  Iowa               23-12      .657

2.  TCU               19-14      .575

3.  Cincinnati       21-20      .512

4.  Boise State    14-18      .437

5.  Oregon            6-10      .375

 

Number of defeated opponents ranked in current BCS Top 25:

1.  Iowa                3  (Penn State, Arizona, Wisconsin)

    Oregon             3  (USC, Utah, California)

3.  Boise State      1  (Oregon)

4.  Cincinnati         1  (South Florida)

5.  TCU                 0

 

 

Won-lost records of remaining teams left on schedule:

1.  Iowa                 17-10    .629

2.  Oregon             19-12    .612

3.  Cincinnnati        19-13    .593

4.  Boise State       20-22    .476

5.  TCU                  15-17    .468

Yep,  That's pretty pathetic.  Iowa doesn't deserve to play for the BCS Title with those numbers.

11/4/09
1
Agreed. It looks like it's going to be a Big 12-SEC BCS Title Game

11/4/09
4
WhoDat12 wrote:
Agreed. It looks like it's going to be a Big 12-SEC BCS Title Game
Ho hum, college football continues with not having a legitimate champion. 

11/4/09
4
 By overall performance, I suspect you are factoring in the following unimpressive statistics:

Number of opponents defeated that currently have winning records:

1.  Iowa                6

2.  Cincinnati        4

     TCU                4

4.  Oregon            3

5.  Boise State      2

 

Total won-lost records (and winning %) of defeated opponents:

1.  Iowa                44-31     .586

2.  Oregon            29-28     .508

3.  TCU                34-33     .507

4.  Cincinnati        30-36     .454

5.  Boise State     27-37     .421

 

Total won-lost records of opponents defeated in their home stadiums (i.e. road wins)

1.  Iowa               23-12      .657

2.  TCU               19-14      .575

3.  Cincinnati       21-20      .512

4.  Boise State    14-18      .437

5.  Oregon            6-10      .375

 

Number of defeated opponents ranked in current BCS Top 25:

1.  Iowa                3  (Penn State, Arizona, Wisconsin)

    Oregon             3  (USC, Utah, California)

3.  Boise State      1  (Oregon)

4.  Cincinnati         1  (South Florida)

5.  TCU                 0

 

 

Won-lost records of remaining teams left on schedule:

1.  Iowa                 17-10    .629

2.  Oregon             19-12    .612

3.  Cincinnnati        19-13    .593

4.  Boise State       20-22    .476

5.  TCU                  15-17    .468

Yep,  That's pretty pathetic.  Iowa doesn't deserve to play for the BCS Title with those numbers.

11/4/09
1
Where are Florida, Alabama and Texas in those charts?

11/4/09
1
The bottom line is that the SEC-tilted BCS will simply refuse to give ANY team outside the SEC the right to play for a National Championship, even if that team is undefeated, just like UTAH last year.
Iowa is a great team, as is Oregon, BYU, Boise State, and Cincinnati.
The BCS is simply ruining college football.

11/4/09
3
Plain and simple... If Florida and Alabama make the SEC championship game as undefeated teams, the winner will automatically go to the BCS title game and the loser will be for the most part "eliminated".  If Texas goes undefeated and wins the Big XII championship game then they'll go to the BCS title game.  If Iowa goes undefeated, they'll more then likely need Texas to lose the Big XII championship game to possibly get the nod.

11/4/09
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(Edited by kingcurtis73)
 I don't have the figures at the moment for the Florida, Alabama and Texas, but I assure you Iowa's schedule would hold its own amongst those schools.  Take Florida for example.  They've only beaten 2 schools that currently have a winning record and only 1 school that is currently in the Top 25 of the BCS.  If the Hawks win out and by double digits against OSU on the road it's difficult to argue that Iowa "doesn't deserve" to be in the mix when discussing the BCS Title game.  The Hawks have performed quite well over the last 10 years in bowl games against Florida (twice), LSU, Texas and SC for a record of 3 - 2.  OSU has given the Big Ten a bad rap over the last few years because they've faltered in the BCS Title game, but Iowa shouldn't be held accountable for that.  Different team, different year.  Whatever happens, it should be a fun ride for the remainder of the season.  Oh, how we need a playoff.

11/4/09
2
I think he knows what we all know: Iowa is an above-average team that has no business playing for the national championship.  After a 63-3 loss to Alabama, Texas, or Florida, the national perception of the Big Ten would be at an all-time low.  It would be a disaster. 

11/4/09
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Pat wrote:
Where are Florida, Alabama and Texas in those charts?
I was thinking the same thing

11/4/09
0
Heyhey1970 wrote:
I think he knows what we all know: Iowa is an above-average team that has no business playing for the national championship.  After a 63-3 loss to Alabama, Texas, or Florida, the national perception of the Big Ten would be at an all-time low.  It would be a disaster. 
 
I would agree that Iowa's offense is above average, but our Special Teams and Defense are very good.  It's hyperbole on your part to think Iowa would be defeated 63-3 at the hands of Alabama.  First of all Iowa is very familiar with Nick Saban from his coaching days at MSU and Saban's coaching style still has elements of the Big Ten.  Have a stout defense and pound the rock.  In terms of this year, each team has scoring defenses ranked in the Top 15.  And look at Alabama's point total in each of the last 3 games when they've faced a tough D - 22, 20 and 12.  Not what I would call a potent offense that can put up 63 points.  I'm guessing most of those points would come off Iowa turnovers.  Again, unlikely because Iowa comes in at #12 for turnover margin.  Better than Alabama.

I suspect the game would be much closer.    

Additionally, Iowa already played one of Saban's SEC teams back in 2005 and won 30 - 25.  A game in which the Hawkeyes led 24 - 12 in the 4th quarter.  Iowa may be undersized and never get 4-star recruits, but it is a well-coached team that gets the most out of its players.  

Iowa may not be as flashy, but they execute when it counts and in the end that's all that matters.  They seem to be on the precipice of defeat each week and quite frankly I'm stunned each time they pull out a win.  Football is supposed to be exciting right?  Who enjoys watching a blowout?

11/4/09
1
Hawkeyes do not have the overall team speed to compete with the likes of Alabama, Florida, Texas.

I respect what they have done this season, and have pulled off some great come from behind wins.  But 5 interceptions (like Stanzi threw against Indiana) against a team like Florida and the game is over in the 3rd quarter.   UNI while they are a great team in D2 Iowa struggled to beat them and had to block TWO field goal attempts to pull off that win.

11/4/09
0
by saying he won't, he just did.

11/4/09
0
RunningDawg wrote:
Hawkeyes do not have the overall team speed to compete with the likes of Alabama, Florida, Texas.

I respect what they have done this season, and have pulled off some great come from behind wins.  But 5 interceptions (like Stanzi threw against Indiana) against a team like Florida and the game is over in the 3rd quarter.   UNI while they are a great team in D2 Iowa struggled to beat them and had to block TWO field goal attempts to pull off that win.
 Speed is one attribute that is often brought-up when comparing Iowa or the Big Ten to the SEC or Big 12.  It's an important attribute, but not the only one.  Iowa has been quite competitively when playing "superior" athletes from the SEC or Big 12.  Take a look at their Bowl history the last several years.  Aside from the USC game, we've done well.

December 29, 2001 Alamo Bowl W Texas Tech 19 16
January 2, 2003 Orange Bowl L Southern California 17 38
January 1, 2004 Outback Bowl W Florida 37 17
January 1, 2005 Capital One Bowl W LSU 30 25
January 2, 2006 Outback Bowl L Florida 24 31
December 29, 2006 Alamo Bowl L Texas 24 26
January 1, 2009 Outback Bowl W South Carolina 31 10
I'll also ignore the fact that the 2006 Outback Bowl is on record as being one of the worst officiated bowl games in recent history.  Regardless, the game was close.  On paper, one would say that Iowa was overmatched in speed in every one of those games, but somehow we managed to win a few.

As far as almost losing to UNI, yes that was pretty embarrassing to squeak out a win against an FCS team.  Iowa was thusly punished by dropping from 22nd to 35th in the polls.  You have to admit it was pretty spectacular Iowa blocked not one, but two field goal attempts to seal the win.  I've never seen that in my lifetime.


Finally, in regard to the 5 picks Stanzi threw last week it was extremely windy.  We're talking a 17 - 25 mph wind.  5 of the 7 picks that were thrown in that game were in the 3rd quarter going against the wind.  Inclement weather is part of Big Ten football, not the case in the SEC.  Granted, Stanzi is prone to making some poor decisions, but prior to that game he hadn't thrown a pick for three games.  And I'll cut the kid some slack because in the 4th quarter he is lights out this year.  He has a passer rating of 200.00.

And yes, if Stanzi or any team were to throw 5 interceptions it would be difficult to win the game.  But that is Iowa this year.  They don't quit.  They create turnovers and give their offense an opportunity to win games.  And based on what I've seen this year, I wouldn't bet against Iowa if they spotted Florida 6 interceptions.  :)
 
Iowa hasn't lost since the Illinois game last year, which was right before the Penn St. upset.  Only Florida's win streak is longer.  Not bad company.

11/4/09
1
Pat wrote:
Where are Florida, Alabama and Texas in those charts?
Nice one

But the dude's right. The SEC is the Sucky East Conference. Texas vs. Iowa should be the championship game.

11/4/09
0
kingcurtis73 wrote:
 Speed is one attribute that is often brought-up when comparing Iowa or the Big Ten to the SEC or Big 12.  It's an important attribute, but not the only one.  Iowa has been quite competitively when playing "superior" athletes from the SEC or Big 12.  Take a look at their Bowl history the last several years.  Aside from the USC game, we've done well.

December 29, 2001 Alamo Bowl W Texas Tech 19 16
January 2, 2003 Orange Bowl L Southern California 17 38
January 1, 2004 Outback Bowl W Florida 37 17
January 1, 2005 Capital One Bowl W LSU 30 25
January 2, 2006 Outback Bowl L Florida 24 31
December 29, 2006 Alamo Bowl L Texas 24 26
January 1, 2009 Outback Bowl W South Carolina 31 10
I'll also ignore the fact that the 2006 Outback Bowl is on record as being one of the worst officiated bowl games in recent history.  Regardless, the game was close.  On paper, one would say that Iowa was overmatched in speed in every one of those games, but somehow we managed to win a few.

As far as almost losing to UNI, yes that was pretty embarrassing to squeak out a win against an FCS team.  Iowa was thusly punished by dropping from 22nd to 35th in the polls.  You have to admit it was pretty spectacular Iowa blocked not one, but two field goal attempts to seal the win.  I've never seen that in my lifetime.


Finally, in regard to the 5 picks Stanzi threw last week it was extremely windy.  We're talking a 17 - 25 mph wind.  5 of the 7 picks that were thrown in that game were in the 3rd quarter going against the wind.  Inclement weather is part of Big Ten football, not the case in the SEC.  Granted, Stanzi is prone to making some poor decisions, but prior to that game he hadn't thrown a pick for three games.  And I'll cut the kid some slack because in the 4th quarter he is lights out this year.  He has a passer rating of 200.00.

And yes, if Stanzi or any team were to throw 5 interceptions it would be difficult to win the game.  But that is Iowa this year.  They don't quit.  They create turnovers and give their offense an opportunity to win games.  And based on what I've seen this year, I wouldn't bet against Iowa if they spotted Florida 6 interceptions.  :)
 
Iowa hasn't lost since the Illinois game last year, which was right before the Penn St. upset.  Only Florida's win streak is longer.  Not bad company.
You got me rooting for Iowa!

11/5/09
0
kingcurtis73 wrote:
 By overall performance, I suspect you are factoring in the following unimpressive statistics:

Number of opponents defeated that currently have winning records:

1.  Iowa                6

2.  Cincinnati        4

     TCU                4

4.  Oregon            3

5.  Boise State      2

 

Total won-lost records (and winning %) of defeated opponents:

1.  Iowa                44-31     .586

2.  Oregon            29-28     .508

3.  TCU                34-33     .507

4.  Cincinnati        30-36     .454

5.  Boise State     27-37     .421

 

Total won-lost records of opponents defeated in their home stadiums (i.e. road wins)

1.  Iowa               23-12      .657

2.  TCU               19-14      .575

3.  Cincinnati       21-20      .512

4.  Boise State    14-18      .437

5.  Oregon            6-10      .375

 

Number of defeated opponents ranked in current BCS Top 25:

1.  Iowa                3  (Penn State, Arizona, Wisconsin)

    Oregon             3  (USC, Utah, California)

3.  Boise State      1  (Oregon)

4.  Cincinnati         1  (South Florida)

5.  TCU                 0

 

 

Won-lost records of remaining teams left on schedule:

1.  Iowa                 17-10    .629

2.  Oregon             19-12    .612

3.  Cincinnnati        19-13    .593

4.  Boise State       20-22    .476

5.  TCU                  15-17    .468

Yep,  That's pretty pathetic.  Iowa doesn't deserve to play for the BCS Title with those numbers.

Impressive one point win over Northern Iowa (an FCS school! did you count their W-L record too?..lol) in Iowa City...oh oh and can't forget that beat down administered to Arkansas State in Iowa City..you remember they won 24-21
Cincy has won at Oregon State (a place that the great USC can't seem to win at)
                           at USF (who has beaten Auburn, FSU, West Virginia all in the last few years)
                            at Syracuse (who BEAT Northwestern and lost by three to a fully haelthy Minn squad in the Carrier Dome)
                            at Rutgers (6-2)
                            at Miami OH

Iowa has won at Penn State (very tough but PSU has played NOONE)
                           at Iowa St.
                           at Michigan St (who got beat by Central Michigan in East Lansing!)
                            at Wisconsin

The won-loss records of the remaning teams the Hawkeyes play is meaningless they all suck and have feated on suckier teams than they, what happened when Ohio State and Minnesota HOSTED a Pac-10 team? LOSS. Northwestern beat Eastern Mich by 3 and beat MiamiOH by 10 and lost to Syracuse.
The average margin of victory after nine games is less than 10 points, and the QB has thrown one less INT than TD's.
If you TRULY believe that Iowa is one of the top two teams in the nation then I suggest that you take off the homer sunglasses.

11/5/09
0
aos035 wrote:
Nice one

But the dude's right. The SEC is the Sucky East Conference. Texas vs. Iowa should be the championship game.
Wouldn't you want better competition for the Longhorns?...or do you know that they would blow Iowa out?

11/5/09
0
You say that windy weather played a factor in Stanzi throwing 5 picks, and you went on to say that inclement weather is not a factor in teh SEC....Are you saying it is not windy down south?  What about the Big12?  We have pretty crappy weather to play through as well.  Colt McCoy has yet to throw 3 picks in one game.  TeBow as overratted as he is as a QB has not thrown 5 picks in one game.  I was pointing out that you throw 5 picks to a Texas or a Florida and you will be looking at a very large hill to climb, because they will put points on the board, not like Indiana.

11/5/09
0
they could go undefeated for the next 3 years and not get in, as long as an SEC school has even a remotely similar record they will be taken over Iowa, or any Big 10 team for that matter.  I'm an Ohio State fan and even I don't want to see them in another championship game, big ten football isn't sexy, and that's all they are looking for!!  Urban Meyer and his spread offense, please.  They love that sh**

11/7/09
1
It is all moot now, Iowa lost at home to Northwestern

 
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