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Michelle Wie misses the cut at the Reno-Tahoe Open. I'm shocked. And by shocked, I mean not shocked in the least.


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#1 | 122 days ago

+2 thumbs up"People are going to write hateful stuff about me and that's fine with me. … Good rounds and low scores can solve everything."

Yeah... good luck with that, Michelle.
#2 | 121 days ago

It sounds to me like she needs to get away from her parents managing her.  She is skipping womens majors to play in a men's PGA event when she has never even won a woman's major yet. 

She has a lot of talent for sure, but even her peers are questioning what she is doing.  It seems like her folks are pulling the strings on her career so far. 
#3 | 121 days ago

When are people going to get tired of Wie bashing?  She is a young woman/girl who has stated all along that she is interested in playing golf against/with men at the professional level.

What's wrong with that?

It's obvious, if you're paying attention to how she's playing and if you know something about golf that she will eventually break through and show that she can compete with the men at the pro level. (I'm not saying she will dominate amongst the men or even win any male events.)

What's also apparent is that if she became an official member of the LPGA (which she has not done to this point) and competed in those events on a regular basis each year (which again she has not done) she would likely get to the point of dominance on the (women's) tour.  These past few years she's been a part time participant in LPGA events and still has been recorded near the top of the leader board on several occasions.

What is more challenging, playing on a tour against individuals which aren't physically on the same level as you or playing in events where you probably aren't even physically equal let alone superior?  I know which one is more exciting for me to watch!

All of you who are criticizing Wie are basically putting her down for stepping up to the bigger challenge.  That seems crazy to me!

#4 | 121 days ago

llq wrote:

When are people going to get tired of Wie bashing?  She is a young woman/girl who has stated all along that she is interested in playing golf against/with men at the professional level.

What's wrong with that?

It's obvious, if you're paying attention to how she's playing and if you know something about golf that she will eventually break through and show that she can compete with the men at the pro level. (I'm not saying she will dominate amongst the men or even win any male events.)

What's also apparent is that if she became an official member of the LPGA (which she has not done to this point) and competed in those events on a regular basis each year (which again she has not done) she would likely get to the point of dominance on the (women's) tour.  These past few years she's been a part time participant in LPGA events and still has been recorded near the top of the leader board on several occasions.

What is more challenging, playing on a tour against individuals which aren't physically on the same level as you or playing in events where you probably aren't even physically equal let alone superior?  I know which one is more exciting for me to watch!

All of you who are criticizing Wie are basically putting her down for stepping up to the bigger challenge.  That seems crazy to me!

+1 thumbs up

Ok, so her goal is to be able to compete with the men on the PGA tour, yet you say that doesnt mean that she will dominate or even win a male event.  In your opinion, what would you think would be deemed a success, just making the cut?  My second question is this, if you were a true competitor, would you be happy just making the cut?  You seem to think that she could dominate the LPGA, yet she has yet to show that.  Being near the top of the leaderboard in 2006 doesnt mean that you could dominate in 2008.  In fact, since she turned pro she has played in 22 LPGA events, finished 20 or worse 11 times and hasnt had a top 10 since 2006.  It seems she took her success when she first started too seriously and decided that she didnt need to compete on the LPGA tour.  She has tried playing on the PGA tour since and is now 0-8 trying to make the cut.

In the meantime, why wouldnt it be the "logical" thing for her to start in the LPGA and work her way up.  Why is it so important for her to continue to rush and prove to everyone that she can compete with the men, when it's obvious that right now she cant.  This girl is 18 years old and expects to compete with the best male golfers in the world RIGHT NOW.  To me, that is setting herself up for failure.  I've watched her play a couple of times, and I dont deny that the girl has talent.  However, I will argue that she is physically superior to the rest of the LPGA.  She may be able to hit the ball farther but in the end, her results tell a different story.  For every great shot she makes, she has ones like in her second round in Tahoe where she has a double bogey and 5 holes later a quintuple bogey.   

If it's a foregone conclusion that she will dominate the LPGA tour, then by all means she should be dominating the LPGA tour.  It's almost like Michelle, her parents and even you think it would be boring or a slap in the face for her to play with the women.  For me, when she starts playing better consistently and starts seeing the results, THEN she should take that next step and try playing with the guys.  I'm afraid that if she continues on this current path of failure after failure, that eventually she's going to get burnt out by the time she gets into the prime of her career. 

#5 | 121 days ago

Scott wrote:

Ok, so her goal is to be able to compete with the men on the PGA tour, yet you say that doesnt mean that she will dominate or even win a male event.  In your opinion, what would you think would be deemed a success, just making the cut?  My second question is this, if you were a true competitor, would you be happy just making the cut?  You seem to think that she could dominate the LPGA, yet she has yet to show that.  Being near the top of the leaderboard in 2006 doesnt mean that you could dominate in 2008.  In fact, since she turned pro she has played in 22 LPGA events, finished 20 or worse 11 times and hasnt had a top 10 since 2006.  It seems she took her success when she first started too seriously and decided that she didnt need to compete on the LPGA tour.  She has tried playing on the PGA tour since and is now 0-8 trying to make the cut.

In the meantime, why wouldnt it be the "logical" thing for her to start in the LPGA and work her way up.  Why is it so important for her to continue to rush and prove to everyone that she can compete with the men, when it's obvious that right now she cant.  This girl is 18 years old and expects to compete with the best male golfers in the world RIGHT NOW.  To me, that is setting herself up for failure.  I've watched her play a couple of times, and I dont deny that the girl has talent.  However, I will argue that she is physically superior to the rest of the LPGA.  She may be able to hit the ball farther but in the end, her results tell a different story.  For every great shot she makes, she has ones like in her second round in Tahoe where she has a double bogey and 5 holes later a quintuple bogey.   

If it's a foregone conclusion that she will dominate the LPGA tour, then by all means she should be dominating the LPGA tour.  It's almost like Michelle, her parents and even you think it would be boring or a slap in the face for her to play with the women.  For me, when she starts playing better consistently and starts seeing the results, THEN she should take that next step and try playing with the guys.  I'm afraid that if she continues on this current path of failure after failure, that eventually she's going to get burnt out by the time she gets into the prime of her career. 

You posed a bunch of questions, Scott, however, I'll at least address the main two.

I do think Michelle Wie making the cut in a PGA tour competition would be some level of a success, however, ultimately I believe her actually winning money or a more substantial amount of money (if everyone who makes the cut wins something--not sure) than just for finishing the entire four rounds would be a much greater level of success.

Guess that sort of answers your second question as well.  No, I wouldn't be happy just making the cut, nor do I think would she.  However, making the cut is a start and would be an accomplishment.  By the way, I'm not sure her motivation is to prove anything to other people.  If that were the case, perhaps she would be satisfied with trying to dominate the LPGA and then maybe competing in PGA events from time to time later in her career.

Would it really be so bad if she never won a male tournament?  How many male professional golfers are there that play on the PGA for years and never win?  I'm sure there's quite a few.  Why would you hold a woman to a higher standard than the men who have never won?

#6 | 121 days ago

llq wrote:

You posed a bunch of questions, Scott, however, I'll at least address the main two.

I do think Michelle Wie making the cut in a PGA tour competition would be some level of a success, however, ultimately I believe her actually winning money or a more substantial amount of money (if everyone who makes the cut wins something--not sure) than just for finishing the entire four rounds would be a much greater level of success.

Guess that sort of answers your second question as well.  No, I wouldn't be happy just making the cut, nor do I think would she.  However, making the cut is a start and would be an accomplishment.  By the way, I'm not sure her motivation is to prove anything to other people.  If that were the case, perhaps she would be satisfied with trying to dominate the LPGA and then maybe competing in PGA events from time to time later in her career.

Would it really be so bad if she never won a male tournament?  How many male professional golfers are there that play on the PGA for years and never win?  I'm sure there's quite a few.  Why would you hold a woman to a higher standard than the men who have never won?

+2 thumbs upI'm not holding Michelle Wie to a higher standard at all.  In fact, I dont think you can expect her to ever win a tournament on the PGA tour.  If she wants to compete against men, more power to her.  All I am saying is that it would be more beneficial for her to compete first in the LPGA and learn to be a more consistent golfer before taking her game to the next level.  As it stands right now, her and her family seem to think that she's too good for the LPGA, when in fact at this point in her career she really isnt.

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