FanIQ News: Tony Stewart NOT offering Danica a ride - , Dale Earnhardt Jr, Tony Stewart

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THANK SR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She needs to work her way up. Prove it or lose it! I am all for her trying, if she is gonna get serious. If it is about a media circus, stay where you are! Smoke is a very shrewd businessman, and JRm is in no position to take on that media circus!

I am still rolling over Edwards saying JPM has as much chance of winning this Chase as JJ!!

ViVA MONTOYA!
My Point: Maybe talk to Juan, Danica, cos it has taken him 3 years, and a whole lotta abuse to convert from IRL to Nascar, and I gotta say, he has dang sure done it!

9/18/09

pizzlewizzle

4	I'm on the fence on this one. Maybe his girlfriend is jealous? What makes Smoke hot?

9/18/09

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AndiLee0388 wrote:

THANK SR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She needs to work her way up. Prove it or lose it! I am all for her trying, if she is gonna get serious. If it is about a media circus, stay where you are! Smoke is a very shrewd businessman, and JRm is in no position to take on that media circus!

I am still rolling over Edwards saying JPM has as much chance of winning this Chase as JJ!!

ViVA MONTOYA!
My Point: Maybe talk to Juan, Danica, cos it has taken him 3 years, and a whole lotta abuse to convert from IRL to Nascar, and I gotta say, he has dang sure done it!

JPM is going to win a championship in NASCAR before he retires, mark my words. They have struggled incredibly on the short tracks and here he comes out of nowhere, and takes the Pole at Loudon. Watch this man NASCAR, you have NO IDEA how far he is going to go!!

Good point Andi, Danica could do well to talk to JPM

9/18/09

rogercarver1960

4	She might not be offered a home but I bet their are a few drivers to offer her other things.

9/18/09

4	(Edited by AndiLee0388) And, that mentality is what has screwed women in Nascar before! Ask Erin!

9/18/09

torontolui

5	maybe danica can share a big gulp with him while they stare at his polished car

9/18/09

volvo18

6	I think Stewart has his plate full at this point. That dude is stretched in all directions. And doing it vey well i might add.

9/18/09

1	Gonna say something that a lot of people will disagree with and might anger some people, but can we get over Tony Stewart the owner? Let's be honest, he's driving Hendrick cars. From an ownership aspect, he really didn't do anything.

9/18/09

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AndiLee0388 wrote:

THANK SR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She needs to work her way up. Prove it or lose it! I am all for her trying, if she is gonna get serious. If it is about a media circus, stay where you are! Smoke is a very shrewd businessman, and JRm is in no position to take on that media circus!

I am still rolling over Edwards saying JPM has as much chance of winning this Chase as JJ!!

ViVA MONTOYA!
My Point: Maybe talk to Juan, Danica, cos it has taken him 3 years, and a whole lotta abuse to convert from IRL to Nascar, and I gotta say, he has dang sure done it!

Uh, it's been reported everywhere that if this happens, she's starting in N'wide and Truck, and you are obviously not for her trying, as your posts on the subject have proven, so don't be disingenuous.

9/18/09

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kantwistaye wrote:

Gonna say something that a lot of people will disagree with and might anger some people, but can we get over Tony Stewart the owner? Let's be honest, he's driving Hendrick cars. From an ownership aspect, he really didn't do anything.

Right, Hendrick delivers to the SHR shop a fully prepared, ready to race car..... NOT
They provide chassis and engines. The set up is done at SHR and they are not ready to race. This is, unfortunately, what a lot of fans think. SHR still has to put it all together, and make it work. Chassis and Engines do NOT win races, sorry Mike.

9/18/09

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DO NOT ERIC, I REPEAT, DO NOT presume to speak for me, ever! Do I think she will make it in Nascar, No. Do I think this is a lame attempt to garner sponsorship and money for people to exploit her, Yes. Do I think that is a disservice to her, YES. Would I like to see a woman that can blast the big boys down? Absolutely. So, do I think it is Danica? Nope. There are too many wrong reasons involved.! They have already started the media circus and she isnt even signed yet!
Remember, I am on another site with press credentials..I see a lot maybe some of you don't. I dont wish her harm, I just think that if she comes in with the buzzards of the media circling her, and she gets no room to come into into her own, then she will fail. Do I want to see yet another woman fail at this task? No!!!

So do not ever call me disingenious again. I am more genuine than you have a clue about!!

9/18/09

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JrCanuckFan wrote:

Right, Hendrick delivers to the SHR shop a fully prepared, ready to race car..... NOT
They provide chassis and engines. The set up is done at SHR and they are not ready to race. This is, unfortunately, what a lot of fans think. SHR still has to put it all together, and make it work. Chassis and Engines do NOT win races, sorry Mike.

Right, but its a whole heck of a lot easier when you got the engine and chassis. Let's face it, Tony wouldn't be in the Chase racing for Furniture Row. Let's also not forget that he has Darian Grubb as his crew chief. His team is just an extension of HMS right now.

9/18/09

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AndiLee0388 wrote:

DO NOT ERIC, I REPEAT, DO NOT presume to speak for me, ever! Do I think she will make it in Nascar, No. Do I think this is a lame attempt to garner sponsorship and money for people to exploit her, Yes. Do I think that is a disservice to her, YES. Would I like to see a woman that can blast the big boys down? Absolutely. So, do I think it is Danica? Nope. There are too many wrong reasons involved.! They have already started the media circus and she isnt even signed yet!
Remember, I am on another site with press credentials..I see a lot maybe some of you don't. I dont wish her harm, I just think that if she comes in with the buzzards of the media circling her, and she gets no room to come into into her own, then she will fail. Do I want to see yet another woman fail at this task? No!!!

So do not ever call me disingenious again. I am more genuine than you have a clue about!!

Then why did you imply she's trying to go straight to Cup?

9/18/09

CRAZY_LADY

2	(Edited by CRAZY_LADY) i'm sorry i do not think she will make it in nascar and I am so glad jr did not sign her and tony has made the right choices , now if she would take his advices and start at the bottom like everybody else she might one day be a so so driver . now thats just what i think not saying i am right or wrong .

9/18/09

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(Edited by AndiLee0388)

I did not imply anything ,I said: THANK SR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She needs to work her way up. Prove it or lose it! I am all for her trying, if she is gonna get serious.

I was saying without spelling it out word for word, that Smoke was smart not to sign her, and then I gave my opinion as to why! ASSUME has another meaning, I think we both know what that is! If she is started in Arca or the Trucks, KUDOS! IF she is given a chance that her counterparts have not been given, then I believe she can excel. I sincerely dont see that, because of who she is, and because of the money grubbing, sensationalist society we live in. That is why I said it would be a disservice to her.
DO I want her at SHR or JRM..Hell no!!!!!!! Those teams have their own issues, and the shadow that would be cast because of her involvement, would be detrimental to those teams. NOW, tell me I am wrong?

9/18/09

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JrCanuckFan wrote:

JPM is going to win a championship in NASCAR before he retires, mark my words. They have struggled incredibly on the short tracks and here he comes out of nowhere, and takes the Pole at Loudon. Watch this man NASCAR, you have NO IDEA how far he is going to go!!

Good point Andi, Danica could do well to talk to JPM

I believe I read somewhere (don't ask, cause I don't remember where) that she has talked to JPM and he was up front and honest with her...Told her is was not easy and would talk a lot of work...

9/18/09

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AndiLee0388 wrote:

I did not imply anything ,I said: THANK SR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She needs to work her way up. Prove it or lose it! I am all for her trying, if she is gonna get serious.

I was saying without spelling it out word for word, that Smoke was smart not to sign her, and then I gave my opinion as to why! ASSUME has another meaning, I think we both know what that is! If she is started in Arca or the Trucks, KUDOS! IF she is given a chance that her counterparts have not been given, then I believe she can excel. I sincerely dont see that, because of who she is, and because of the money grubbing, sensationalist society we live in. That is why I said it would be a disservice to her.
DO I want her at SHR or JRM..Hell no!!!!!!! Those teams have their own issues, and the shadow that would be cast because of her involvement, would be detrimental to those teams. NOW, tell me I am wrong?

All the reports said she was starting in ARCA and trucks (and maybe some N'wide) while running a full ICS schedule a few years. By all accounts, that's how she's going to do it, by working her way up. I've watched just about every race Danica has run since she came in. Despite all the extracurriculars, she is a serious driver, and her results have shown she's not just resting on laurels. Don't assume you know "who she is," since you watch 1 IndyCar race a year, if that.

9/19/09

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kantwistaye wrote:

Right, but its a whole heck of a lot easier when you got the engine and chassis. Let's face it, Tony wouldn't be in the Chase racing for Furniture Row. Let's also not forget that he has Darian Grubb as his crew chief. His team is just an extension of HMS right now.

Darian Grubb is a HUGE advantage, because he can take those engines and chassis and make them into something that works. Furniture Row doesn't have that kind of talent behind the pit box and couldn't take the engines and chassis and make them into a winning car. I just don't think we can say Tony is successful because he is "just another HMS team under a different banner" because his engineering crew and his Crew Chief have to have the knowledge to make it work. It isn't automatic

9/19/09

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Yep you are right there Eric. I don't watch a lot of IRL, but I have watched how the press/marketing companies display her. I think she is gorgeous, but , unfortunately, her in a bathing suit is not gonna give her the credabilty she needs to start with. I think she has talent for sure. I just am very afraid if the marketing efforts continue on the same path, she will be a pretty face and never taken seriously.
That, my friend is one of my poblems with her. It is a catch 22. You need the sponsors to get where you want to be, but , ultimately, it is up to you how you are portrayed.
A little less sex, and a lot more action is all I am saying! Women have a hard enough time being taken seriously as it is. Make a mark, then strip it off!!!!!

9/19/09

2	(Edited by AndiLee0388) Sorry for the double post

9/19/09

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JrCanuckFan wrote:

Darian Grubb is a HUGE advantage, because he can take those engines and chassis and make them into something that works. Furniture Row doesn't have that kind of talent behind the pit box and couldn't take the engines and chassis and make them into a winning car. I just don't think we can say Tony is successful because he is "just another HMS team under a different banner" because his engineering crew and his Crew Chief have to have the knowledge to make it work. It isn't automatic

You're right that its not completely fair, but at the same time he's got Hendrick stuff, Hendrick people, and then obviously his own talent. I think if you said before the year that Tony Stewart would be driving in HMS equipment with HMS working on his cars you'd assume he'd be pretty successful even if someone like you or I was owning the team.

9/19/09

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JrCanuckFan wrote:

Darian Grubb is a HUGE advantage, because he can take those engines and chassis and make them into something that works. Furniture Row doesn't have that kind of talent behind the pit box and couldn't take the engines and chassis and make them into a winning car. I just don't think we can say Tony is successful because he is "just another HMS team under a different banner" because his engineering crew and his Crew Chief have to have the knowledge to make it work. It isn't automatic

Darian Grubb is also the calmest person I've ever heard on the radio...Smoke can be getting agitated about his car and DG calmly says something like hang on to it ... we'll get it fixed ... and he usually does.

Tony learned a ton about running a business from the Coach and JD...on top of having multiple teams of his own in other aspects of racing. He has the talent in the car and he brought in the talent in his organization to let him do what he does best and that's DRIVE!

As far as Hendrick engines and chassis' go...if they aren't put together correctly, you aren't going to run well!

9/19/09

3	(Edited by AndiLee0388) Smoke may have the Hendricks advantage, but so do others! If you dont have the talent to make that advantage work for you, then it means nothing!

9/19/09

ML31

1	Indy Car is better than NASCAR anyway.

9/19/09

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AndiLee0388 wrote:

Yep you are right there Eric. I don't watch a lot of IRL, but I have watched how the press/marketing companies display her. I think she is gorgeous, but , unfortunately, her in a bathing suit is not gonna give her the credabilty she needs to start with. I think she has talent for sure. I just am very afraid if the marketing efforts continue on the same path, she will be a pretty face and never taken seriously.
That, my friend is one of my poblems with her. It is a catch 22. You need the sponsors to get where you want to be, but , ultimately, it is up to you how you are portrayed.
A little less sex, and a lot more action is all I am saying! Women have a hard enough time being taken seriously as it is. Make a mark, then strip it off!!!!!

The mark was made when she lead the 2005 Indy 500 and finished 4th as a rookie. I actually do think the extracurriculars stunted her growth, but she's always had talent. It might not be championship caliber talent (at least in IndyCars, no clue how it would transfer to stock cars), but the talent is there

9/19/09

18packabs

4	AndiLee0388 wrote: Smoke may have the Hendricks advantage, but so do others! If you dont have the talent to make that advantage work for you, then it means nothing! Proven by Junior weekly...LOL

9/19/09

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kantwistaye wrote:

You're right that its not completely fair, but at the same time he's got Hendrick stuff, Hendrick people, and then obviously his own talent. I think if you said before the year that Tony Stewart would be driving in HMS equipment with HMS working on his cars you'd assume he'd be pretty successful even if someone like you or I was owning the team.

No one (with credentials) predicted Smoke would be where he is now at the beginning of the year. My prediction that he would be successful is here on the Q for all the world to see. I say again that he can be provided with the best equipment, but unless he has the crew with the expertise to put it all together and the talent to drive it, it "don't count for sh*t" I just think that Tony himself is intelligent enough to figure out how to put it all together and make it work.

9/19/09

3	ML31 wrote: Indy Car is better than NASCAR anyway. That's a matter of opinion...

9/19/09

3	AndiLee0388 wrote: Smoke may have the Hendricks advantage, but so do others! If you dont have the talent to make that advantage work for you, then it means nothing! I was gonna say that....LOL

9/19/09

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JrCanuckFan wrote:

No one (with credentials) predicted Smoke would be where he is now at the beginning of the year. My prediction that he would be successful is here on the Q for all the world to see. I say again that he can be provided with the best equipment, but unless he has the crew with the expertise to put it all together and the talent to drive it, it "don't count for sh*t" I just think that Tony himself is intelligent enough to figure out how to put it all together and make it work.

I agree completely. But looking back, it probably shouldn't have been a surprise especially since he was gift wrapped some pretty nice assets. I think he deserves credit for making sure he was going to have everything in place before committing to taking over the team, but it wasn't incredibly difficult considering Mr. Hendrick was so willing to help.

9/19/09

3	18packabs wrote: Proven by Junior weekly...LOL CONSIDER YOURSELF SPANKED, and I do not mean in a fun way

9/19/09

3	ILoveSmoke wrote: I was gonna say that....LOL We do that a lot

9/19/09

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kantwistaye wrote:

I agree completely. But looking back, it probably shouldn't have been a surprise especially since he was gift wrapped some pretty nice assets. I think he deserves credit for making sure he was going to have everything in place before committing to taking over the team, but it wasn't incredibly difficult considering Mr. Hendrick was so willing to help.

And, as a smart business man. he took advantage of that. Fault him for that? I think not.Very smart man, Smoke!!!!!!

Two words (or maybe one, depending how you look at it) El Dora! And, he is line to be the only other owner/driver to pull it off since Alan Kulwicki! Hats off to you S'Mores..LOL

9/19/09

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kantwistaye wrote:

I agree completely. But looking back, it probably shouldn't have been a surprise especially since he was gift wrapped some pretty nice assets. I think he deserves credit for making sure he was going to have everything in place before committing to taking over the team, but it wasn't incredibly difficult considering Mr. Hendrick was so willing to help.

Probably the smartest point of the thread. He was extememly open and honest about the help he got from Rick Hendrick and we all should have known he would be successful with that support. Rick was equally open and honest about the help he offered. Success for Smoke was pretty much a given.

9/19/09

ML31

5	ILoveSmoke wrote: That's a matter of opinion... As is pretty much everything that is said here. I'm not much of a racing fan to begin with. But when I do occasionally check out an auto race, I'd much rather see indy cars. They are faster and cooler looking. And just more interesting on every level.

9/19/09

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JrCanuckFan wrote:

Probably the smartest point of the thread. He was extememly open and honest about the help he got from Rick Hendrick and we all should have known he would be successful with that support. Rick was equally open and honest about the help he offered. Success for Smoke was pretty much a given.

I disagree Deb. If that same support was given to say, Mikey. would the results have been the same? You and I both know the answer to that! It takes a businessman's savvy and a drivers hunger to capitalize on gifts given!

9/19/09

JRSFLAME88

1	I say IF she can find a ride and start with the trucks or Nationwide series to go for it. Do I think she will do well and make it to the Sprint series, honestly, NO. It seems all the men are looking at her as eye candy.

9/19/09

2	(Edited by ILoveSmoke) I like all forms of racing...I just prefer Nascar....Indy racing is cool...and I watch, just not when there's a Nascar race on....

9/19/09

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AndiLee0388 wrote:

I disagree Deb. If that same support was given to say, Mikey. would the results have been the same? You and I both know the answer to that! It takes a businessman's savvy and a drivers hunger to capitalize on gifts given!

do you honestly think if HMS offered that same support to MWR that he wouldn't have made the VERY best of what was offered? Do you honestly think that the support wouldn't have given MWR the credentials to have signed a top tier driver? I think, honestly, that if MWR were to align themselves with HMS they would gain more respect and more credentials to sign a driver who could get the job done. I don't honestly think that SHR is the only team who could "man up" given the chance to excel with HMS equipment under them.

9/19/09

3	JRSFLAME88 wrote: I say IF she can find a ride and start with the trucks or Nationwide series to go for it. Do I think she will do well and make it to the Sprint series, honestly, NO. It seems all the men are looking at her as eye candy. And it is being capitalized one hugely.....the closest thing we've had (we being women) in the regard was a hot shot of Carl Edwards....

9/19/09

calbear

2	Darn, at least give her a chance!

9/19/09

1	(Edited by AndiLee0388) I agree the motivation to be better would have been there, but there is no way I believe the results would have been the same!

9/19/09