2011 Trade Deadline Live Thread

Who's Getting Dealt? [2011 Trade Deadline Live Thread]

7/30/11 in MLB   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Everyone's having a blast in the NFL Free Agency Live Thread. Now, here's a thread for the seamheads, as we are just over 24 hours away from the trade deadline at 4 pm tomorrow. We're already seen a couple of big trades, with Colby Rasmus going to Toronto, Edwin Jackson heading to St. Louis, and Carlos Beltran to the Giants. Last night we saw the Phillies acquire Hunter Pence from the Astros. There's even already been a trade this morning, with Doug Fister being traded from Seattle to the Tigers.

Despite the moves already made, there's still some big names that could be dealt. The biggest of all appears to be Ubaldo Jimenez of the Rockies, but Heath Bell of the Padres is still out there, as is BJ Upton of the Rays and possibly Aramis Ramirez of the Cubs. Lesser players, albeit still with value, such as Jeremy Guthrie of the Orioles, Hiroki Kuroda of the Dodgers, and Jason Kubel of the Twins also could be available and could be dealt.

There are questions still to be answered for the teams as well. Will the Indians and Pirates make moves to try and keep their Cinderella runs going? Will the Brewers try to upgrade their putrid left side of the infield, and can they given their gutted farm system? Are the Yankees willing to make a big move and give up top prospects like Jesus Montero? What are the Red Sox cooking up? Does Kenny Williams, no stranger to big moves, have another trick up his sleeve?

Stay right here to discuss all the deals, potential deals, and rumors that come up in the next 28 hours or so.
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8/1/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

With the #1 pick they had to draft the best overall player, and they did.  If still in contention at the deadline they had to add, and they did.  As I said, those 2 things had to happen for me to start trusting this front office again.  18 years of losing caused me to lose any trust I had in the team.  People outside of Pittsburgh simply can't seem to understand that.  People like you keep forcing all of us in Pittsburgh to say "he's doing a great job."  Until you actually SEE progress on the field like I've seen this year, I don't understand how in the world you can be optimistic.  I'm happy he put his money where his mouth is and brought in a couple veteran guys "when the time is right."  When he said that, he made his bed, and had to lie in it.  We've had this discussion before, and I said if he did the two things I mentioned at the beginning of this post this year, I'd believe he was truly serious about building a contender.  I don't know what more you want from me, Eric.  I have had no reason to be happy for the last 18 years as a Pirates fan, and if there's a problem with that since Nutting took sole possession of the ownership of this team, that's too bad.  Until this year I've had no reason to be excited or believe he cared about the major league squad he owns.  It took a lot for them to regain my trust, and they've finally done that.  What's done is done, stop harping on the past and how I should give him credit for the last 4 years.  I haven't given them credit and I'm not going to go back now and say he's put a great team together from day one.  You had to prove to me you cared and you did, so congrats to Nutting and his front office for making me eat my words.  I WANTED to be wrong, but until this year I've had no reason to be proven wrong, end of story.

8/1/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

I'll have to comeback later, probably tomorrow, for my thoughts on the Orioles, as I have things to do tonight.

8/1/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

(Edited by Eric_)

I mention these trades because it deserves mentioning that if you're serious about winning you can't be settling for guys that the other teams knew were destined to fail.

I remember Huntington's quote about how they weren't breaking up the 1927 Yankees. Yes, they didn't get anyone of note in the end, but given what they've done since leaving Pittsburgh, it can be reasoned that what was given up didn't have that much value in the first place.

I said at the beginning of this year that they need to prove to me they give a crap.  That involved drafting the best player available with the #1 pick in this year's draft.


They picked the best player last year with Taillon. Sanchez two years ago was reasonable (and looked like a prospect until falling off a cliff this year in AA, it happens). Alvarez was considered reasonable at the time. Like I said, the Pirates have been very active in the draft these past few years, which is what small market teams need to do.

These 2 acquisitions were additions to get more hits into the lineup, something they desperately needed.

Lee this year: .246/.302/.404 (96 OPS+)
Overbay this year: .227/.300/.349 (82 OPS+)

Lee's an upgrade in theory, but most of the difference here is the 6 homers Lee hit his July. His OBP in July though was .294. If Lee's power in July is a dead cat bounce, he won't help. Ludwick, though, doesn't seem like an upgrade at all.

Ludwick this year: .238/.301/.373 (92 OPS+)
Tabata this year : .265/.351/.354 (99 OPS+)
Jones this year: .230/.315/.404 (101 OPS+)

OK, I see Tabata's hurt, and Matt Diaz has been awful, so I guess Ludwick is a slight upgrade. However, I wouldn't count on them to be saviors as both are clearly in decline. "Veteran presence" means nothing if they don't hit.

That said, I don't disagree with the Pirates not making a major-Ubaldo like move, and the reason is that pitching. The Pirates are dead last in the league in pitching strikeouts, meaning they're relying on their defense a lot. Karstens is the luckiest recipient in this regard. His BABIP is .245. That's not sustainable. Maybe he'll regress this year, maybe he won't. Things like that will determine the Pirates fate this year, and for whatever reason, the team realized this and are mostly staying the course. That's what I keep trying to tell you. The Pirates appears to know what they're doing. They might deserve something other than scorn for once.

7/31/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Eric_ wrote:
OK, I know you won't listen to a word I say, but I'm going to give you the same spiel I gave Joe over Twitter, because I find all this whining and demonization of a guy who's only been owner since 2007 absurd. Thus, it'll be in bullet form.
  • Nutting and Huntington have only been in there for 4 years. It takes that long (at least) to rebuild from scratch.
  • They've had no reason to spend significant money on major league talent until this year.
  • Don't bother mentioning all the guys they shipped out. Most of them haven't done crap since leaving Pittsburgh. The exception is Bautista, and no one could've seen that coming.
  • Under Nutting, they've been one of the biggest spenders in the draft.
  • I know all the losing creates impatience, but look at the big picture. They're doing it right after 15 years of doing it wrong.
  • Give the process time to work, especially since unlike the Orioles, you have evidence it's actually working.
Plus, if Lee and Ludwick are upgrades are premiere offensive positions, it's unlikely you're making the playoffs anyway.

Nutting has been part of the ownership group since 2002.  I never really questioned Huntington after hearing he like Billy Beane's successful small market strategy as GM.  Nutting loaned McClatchy money to pay off the debts, and as a result held the team hostage making him pay back money he earned from the team's annual revenue.  2007 was when he took sole possession of the ownership.

They claimed they were trying to improve the team, but you can't expect people to believe you when you trade away Jason Bay and get 4 pieces of garbage, Freddy Sanchez for a bust of a pitcher, the big salary dumps of 2003 culminated with the deal that sent Aramis Ramirez to the Cubs (he was in the ownership group when that happened), etc.  I mention these trades because it deserves mentioning that if you're serious about winning you can't be settling for guys that the other teams knew were destined to fail.

I said at the beginning of this year that they need to prove to me they give a crap.  That involved drafting the best player available with the #1 pick in this year's draft, which they failed to do even WITH Nutting as part owner, and they did do that.  That also meant IF the team was somehow still in contention at the deadline that they were actually buyers and not having a firesale because they would NEED to add to what they currently had.  They did that.

I'm sorry that you have such a problem with me being so harsh on this ownership group, but after setting a professional sports record for most consecutive losing seasons, I had every right to be disgruntled and impatient with them.

These 2 acquisitions were additions to get more hits into the lineup, something they desperately needed.  The Bucs have been winning with pitching most of this season, so a couple other good hitters would hopefully take some of the pressure off them on occasion.  You have a 5-man rotation that's been shutting down some of the league's most potent lineups all season, and winning series on a regular basis.  You have a catcher who has started to hit and has been a great filler while your top 2 catchers are hurt.  You have an all-star closer who has blown 1 save the entire year.  You have 2 guys who can knock in runs and hit very well in McCutchen and Walker, but nobody behind them to get them across the plate.  Ludwick and Lee are 2 guys who CAN do that.  They may not make the playoffs, but with what they've done so far this year, they have to finish this season with a winning record, and build on that in 2012.

Nutting made a comment a while back in which he said "we will spend when the time is right."  Well the time was right at the deadline, thus he had to put his money where his mouth is, and that's precisely what he did.  I have said all season that if he did the 2 things that were crucial, draft the BPA and spend at the deadline if they were in the division race, I'd believe he was serious about contending.  18 years of losing will cause you to lose your hope of anything good.  I hope for your sake the O's don't get to that point, but if they do and they have a new ownership group after they hit loser #16 or so, you'll be singing the same tune of "woe is me."

7/31/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

kramer wrote:
Hold the phones, Bob Nutting, THE root of all evil in Pittsburgh, just made 2 trades in the last 24 hours for 2 proven veterans who are both very good fielders, will play 1B & RF, and hit better than any of the guys the Pirates currently have at those 2 positions...I'M COMIN' ELIZABETH!

OK, I know you won't listen to a word I say, but I'm going to give you the same spiel I gave Joe over Twitter, because I find all this whining and demonization of a guy who's only been owner since 2007 absurd. Thus, it'll be in bullet form.

  • Nutting and Huntington have only been in there for 4 years. It takes that long (at least) to rebuild from scratch.
  • They've had no reason to spend significant money on major league talent until this year.
  • Don't bother mentioning all the guys they shipped out. Most of them haven't done crap since leaving Pittsburgh. The exception is Bautista, and no one could've seen that coming.
  • Under Nutting, they've been one of the biggest spenders in the draft.
  • I know all the losing creates impatience, but look at the big picture. They're doing it right after 15 years of doing it wrong.
  • Give the process time to work, especially since unlike the Orioles, you have evidence it's actually working.
Plus, if Lee and Ludwick are upgrades are premiere offensive positions, it's unlikely you're making the playoffs anyway.

7/31/11   |   Sharp Square   |   11941 respect

kramer wrote:
Hold the phones, Bob Nutting, THE root of all evil in Pittsburgh, just made 2 trades in the last 24 hours for 2 proven veterans who are both very good fielders, will play 1B & RF, and hit better than any of the guys the Pirates currently have at those 2 positions...I'M COMIN' ELIZABETH!


Ya know as good a story as the pirates playing well and being in the hunt is , i think that the showing from ownership to be willing to improve and make moves when they were needed is even a bigger story. The owners and front office have taken a lot of flack from fans and all of it deserved so it is refreshing to see them hold to their word and add on to the roster now. Whether it works out or not in the end won't matter the taking the chance is all the fans of Pitt really were begging to see.  Way to go Pirates and hopefully its just the beginning of a turn around

7/31/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Hold the phones, Bob Nutting, THE root of all evil in Pittsburgh, just made 2 trades in the last 24 hours for 2 proven veterans who are both very good fielders, will play 1B & RF, and hit better than any of the guys the Pirates currently have at those 2 positions...I'M COMIN' ELIZABETH!

7/31/11   |   WhoDat12   |   2252 respect

And it's great to see the Pirates being buyers instead of perennial sellers

7/31/11   |   WhoDat12   |   2252 respect

Is it safe to say that the Braves have been Bourn Again?

7/31/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Ludwick's line this year is .238/.301/.373, which is actually not too terrible given he's playing at PETCO (92 OPS+). If getting out of there helps him, that's a decent pick-up, much better than Derrek Lee, who I still think is mostly washed-up and these last few weeks are a dead cat bounce.

7/31/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Buster Olney tweeted the details of the Bedard trade, which apparently involves the Dodgers somehow.

mlbtraderumors

 
RT @Buster_ESPN: Bedard to BOS: Federowicz, 2 other minor leaguers to LAD, Trayvon Robinson, Chih Hsien Chiang to SEA for Bedard, Fields.

No, I haven't figured it out yet either.

7/31/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Pirates Acquire right fielder Ryan Ludwick from the Padres for cash or a player to be named later.

7/31/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Sox trade for Erik Bedard, according to MLB source

7/31/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Scott wrote:
 The Aybar bunt seemed to rattle Verlander.  No-hitter gone and the lead in jeopardy

That whole 8th inning was just bizarre.

7/31/11   |   Scott   |   52925 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Meanwhile, Justin Verlander is pitching really well through 7 innings.

 The Aybar bunt seemed to rattle Verlander.  No-hitter gone and the lead in jeopardy

7/31/11   |   Scott   |   52925 respect

 A's trade reliever Brad Ziegler to the Diamondbacks for Jordan Norberto and Brad Allen

7/31/11   |   Scott   |   52925 respect

 The Padres are asking for way to much for Heath Bell.  

7/31/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Meanwhile, Justin Verlander is pitching really well through 7 innings.

7/31/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Hold the phone. It was actually Mike Adams to the Rangers.

7/31/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

(Edited by Joe_L)

Rangers acquire Heath Bell from Padres....details to follow

Correction..Bell did not go to Rangers...instead it was Adams for Erlin and Weiland

7/31/11   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

(Edited by Canadianhick)

Ken Rosenthal tweeted that a source has told him Texas has acquired Heath Bell.

He corrected himself and saying it was Mike Adams and not Heath Bell.

7/31/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

So, I looked up the guy the Orioles got for D-Lee, and he's 23 and still in A-ball and apparently has plate discipline and defensive issues. In other words, it was a dump.

7/31/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Sharp Square wrote:

I agree , Houston has to get this clown out of their organization or he will continue to ruin it. He sold Pence off for two prospects who sure have some potential but they have much more risk , and not worth it for your team leader and a solid consistent player who is signed to a very reasonable contract. And now he deals the teams likely second best player for Schafer who has not shown much at the ML level and some mid level prospects which none of really project all that well down the road.  The trades he made here mostly because of the players dealt don't make a whole lot of sense so now the astro's have to hope at least one or two guys are lightning in a bottle and they don't once again come out on short end of the stick , which seems very likely.  They should of been trying to move a guy like Wandy Rodriguez who Wade signed to a real ridiculous contract for a very average arm , the hits just don't end from this guy.  I feel for the Astro fans and the rest of the organization as a whole , Wade has really put this team behind the eight ball.

In his defense (sort of), he's been told by the new owner to cut payroll. That, plus Wade being desperate to keep his job, plus his natural incompetence, produces these kinds of deals.

7/31/11   |   Sharp Square   |   11941 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Wow. The Braves stole Bourn. He has no power, but he gets on base and brings plus defense at center. Ed Wade, meanwhile, remains an idiot.


I agree , Houston has to get this clown out of their organization or he will continue to ruin it. He sold Pence off for two prospects who sure have some potential but they have much more risk , and not worth it for your team leader and a solid consistent player who is signed to a very reasonable contract. And now he deals the teams likely second best player for Schafer who has not shown much at the ML level and some mid level prospects which none of really project all that well down the road.  The trades he made here mostly because of the players dealt don't make a whole lot of sense so now the astro's have to hope at least one or two guys are lightning in a bottle and they don't once again come out on short end of the stick , which seems very likely.  They should of been trying to move a guy like Wandy Rodriguez who Wade signed to a real ridiculous contract for a very average arm , the hits just don't end from this guy.  I feel for the Astro fans and the rest of the organization as a whole , Wade has really put this team behind the eight ball.

7/31/11   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

I have to say I like the Cabrera move.  It totally plugs a glaring hole in the Giants lineup.  And don't mind too much losing Thomas Neal for it.

7/31/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Wow. The Braves stole Bourn. He has no power, but he gets on base and brings plus defense at center. Ed Wade, meanwhile, remains an idiot.

7/31/11   |   Sharp Square   |   11941 respect


Finally Atl makes a deal and adds a needed piece. Been lacking a true leadoff hitter all year so Bourn will help and fills a need , would of been nice to land a kind of impact Left Fielder too as that has been a weak spot for years now. But all in all for the price tag on Bourn we will take it , didn't have to move any of those top 4 Sping prospects.

7/31/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Pirates still trying to land OF Jason Kubel or Ryan Ludwick. If Nutting puts out more money I will be shocked.


Sign Kubel!!

7/31/11   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

(Edited by Canadianhick)

Micheal Bourn to Atlanta is a deal done for  Jordan Schafer, Paul Clemens, Brett Oberholtzer, and Juan Abreu.

 

7/31/11   |   Scott   |   52925 respect

 Cardinals deal with the Dodgers and get Rafael Furcal for cash considerations.  Also the San Francisco Giants add Orlando Cabrera from the Cleveland Indians for AAA outfielder Thomas Neal

7/31/11   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

Joe_L wrote:
Red Sox acquire RHP Rich Harden from A's for 1B prospect Lars Anderson and a player to be named later.

Citing an MLB source, The Boston Globe reported the Red Sox pulled out of the deal because of Harden's medical history. The Red Sox reviewed his records and concluded he likely wouldn't be able to pitch injury-free through the end of the season, the report said.

That deal has fallen through, can't find a reason yet.

7/31/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Joe_L wrote:
You'll have to forgive me, while this wasn't the player I wanted first. I'm still in Shock and Aww they bought a player.

I agree, was hoping for Cuddyer or Willingham, or possibly Upton.  However, they bought someone and I'm finally happy to say a big thank you to Nutting for actually keeping his word about "spending when the time is right."  This deal is getting me to trust the Pirates management again.

7/31/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

kramer wrote:
He finally did it.  Huntington pulled the trigger on this and Nutting finally put his money where his mouth is.  BRAVO!

You'll have to forgive me, while this wasn't the player I wanted first. I'm still in Shock and Aww they bought a player.

7/31/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Joe_L wrote:
According to Sporting New.com the deal is done.

The Pittsburgh Pirates have added a veteran hitter for the stretch run, acquiring first baseman Derrek Lee from the Baltimore Orioles on Saturday night for a player to be named.

Pittsburgh also will receive cash in the deal to help pay the remainder of Lee's $7.25 million salary. Baltimore will receive Class A first baseman Aaron Baker, according to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun.

 

He finally did it.  Huntington pulled the trigger on this and Nutting finally put his money where his mouth is.  BRAVO!

7/30/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

According to Sporting New.com the deal is done.

The Pittsburgh Pirates have added a veteran hitter for the stretch run, acquiring first baseman Derrek Lee from the Baltimore Orioles on Saturday night for a player to be named.

Pittsburgh also will receive cash in the deal to help pay the remainder of Lee's $7.25 million salary. Baltimore will receive Class A first baseman Aaron Baker, according to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun.

 

7/30/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Burrellfan1 wrote:
 That is smart thinking by the Pirates-trade for a DH in case they make it to the World Series.

Kubel would be your every day right fielder if the Pirates can acquire him.  With Tabata and Presley both currently on the DL, guys like Garrett Jones, Matt Diaz, and Steve Pearce in RF are not cutting it at all.  McCutchen is basically playing the outfield by himself this past week.

7/30/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Sharp Square wrote:
He may or may not in the end , but for the price paid it was well worth it . And he is still an upgrade over Overbay who has been a disappointment this season.

Lee is a upgrade over Overpaid. But I'm not convinced Lee is "a" answer. As Kramer said "I was hoping for Cuddyer, but I'd also take Kubel."

7/30/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Sharp Square wrote:
Solid deal getting Lee for that cheap price his bat has come alive of late and Overbay wasn't getting it done and Jones is such a streaky guy.  I think it may be tough to get Cuddyer or Kubel from the twins as they seem content to keep them unless someone comes in with a can't say no kind of offer. But the pirates are at least showing a want to win by trying to make some moves to improve the club for the stretch run.  Good to see !

Exactly, Sid.  They BOUGHT a player.  They haven't done that since they traded for Shawn Dunston at the deadline back in their division battle with Houston in 1997.

7/30/11   |   Burrellfan1   |   25044 respect

Scott wrote:
Rumors in St. Louis are that the Cardinals are seriously looking into acquiring *gulp* Rafael Furcal from the Dodgers.  Also, heard whispers last night at the game that Aramis Ramirez will invoke his no trade clause if the Cubs try to deal him AND that the Pirates were "real close" on a deal with the Twins for Jason Kubel

 That is smart thinking by the Pirates-trade for a DH in case they make it to the World Series.

7/30/11   |   Sharp Square   |   11941 respect

Eric_ wrote:
If Derrek Lee actually helps the Pirates, I will somehow become a bigger atheist than I already am.

He may or may not in the end , but for the price paid it was well worth it . And he is still an upgrade over Overbay who has been a disappointment this season.

7/30/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

(Edited by Eric_)

If Derrek Lee actually helps the Pirates, I will somehow become a bigger atheist than I already am.

7/30/11   |   Sharp Square   |   11941 respect

kramer wrote:
The story coming out of the Bucs' front office is that they've made a trade with the O's, sending a hitter from Single A West Virginia in exchange for Derrek Lee!  He's an instant upgrade over Overbay, Pearce, and Jones at first base defensively, and since the All-Star break he's been lighting it up, hitting over .300 with a .972 OPS.  I like this deal.  I was hoping for Cuddyer, but I'd also take Kubel.  That would give you 2 huge bats in the lineup as well as 2 solid players defensively.  So when Tabata and Presley return, say goodbye to Jones, Diaz, Pearce, AND Overbay.

Solid deal getting Lee for that cheap price his bat has come alive of late and Overbay wasn't getting it done and Jones is such a streaky guy.  I think it may be tough to get Cuddyer or Kubel from the twins as they seem content to keep them unless someone comes in with a can't say no kind of offer. But the pirates are at least showing a want to win by trying to make some moves to improve the club for the stretch run.  Good to see !

7/30/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

The story coming out of the Bucs' front office is that they've made a trade with the O's, sending a hitter from Single A West Virginia in exchange for Derrek Lee!  He's an instant upgrade over Overbay, Pearce, and Jones at first base defensively, and since the All-Star break he's been lighting it up, hitting over .300 with a .972 OPS.  I like this deal.  I was hoping for Cuddyer, but I'd also take Kubel.  That would give you 2 huge bats in the lineup as well as 2 solid players defensively.  So when Tabata and Presley return, say goodbye to Jones, Diaz, Pearce, AND Overbay.

7/30/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Joe_L wrote:
Red Sox acquire RHP Rich Harden from A's for 1B prospect Lars Anderson and a player to be named later.

Citing an MLB source, The Boston Globe reported the Red Sox pulled out of the deal because of Harden's medical history. The Red Sox reviewed his records and concluded he likely wouldn't be able to pitch injury-free through the end of the season, the report said.

A gamble for both teams. Sox are gambling that Harden can stay healthy. A's are gambling that Anderson's OBP shows up in the bigs and he can show some sort of power and that he's not Daric Barton 2.0.

7/30/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Joe_L wrote:
 Tribe gets Ubaldo Jimenez from Rox for pitchers Drew Pomeranz, Alex White & Joe Gardner, & 1B Matt McBride

This floors me. The Indians got to where they were by taking other teams top prospects in trade deadline deals (best example: Casey Blake for Carlos Santana). Jimenez is certainly far from marginal, but the Indians had 4 good prospects going into the season. The two hitters (Kipnis and Chisenhall) are in the bigs. The two pitchers just got traded. Wow.

7/30/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

(Edited by Joe_L)

Red Sox acquire RHP Rich Harden from A's for 1B prospect Lars Anderson and a player to be named later.

Citing an MLB source, The Boston Globe reported the Red Sox pulled out of the deal because of Harden's medical history. The Red Sox reviewed his records and concluded he likely wouldn't be able to pitch injury-free through the end of the season, the report said.

7/30/11   |   ironhead_mike   |   9776 respect

  Red Sox appear to be getting Rich Harden from Oakland (pending physical) - not sure for whom yet.

7/30/11   |   Sharp Square   |   11941 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Koji Uehara has been traded to Texas for Chris Davis and Tommy Hunter. Decent pick-up for the Rangers, although I will point out that Koji has sometimes had trouble with the heat. Davis and Hunter are somewhat reclamation projects, but at least there's still some potential, which is all you can really ask for when trading middle relievers.

It also makes one wonder if by acquiring Uehara, if Texas has cooled from chasing Heath Bell.


Think Baltimore did well here , for a middle reliever they got two guys who have shown potential. Davis has really hit the ball well in the minors but just hasn't seen it translate to the major league level but when it does click for him he could be a real solid middle of the order bat. Along with Hunter who has also thrown the ball very well in spurts a real nice haul potential wise for the O's.

7/30/11   |   Sharp Square   |   11941 respect

(Edited by Sharp Square)


And the Braves sit on their hands and watch everyone who needs to acquire players to get better do so , how typical. I can understand the idea of not wanting to sell off the farm system to make a move and then have it not go well and you lose out all around. But at the same time when u have the depth at SP in the minors like Atl now has and to not use that to your advantage and acquire a much needed player is just stupid. Looking ahead at the future is fine but these guys in the minors are called "prospects" for a reason because many of them never reach that dream potential that they are hyped on , and sometimes u just have to move some of the "maybe's" u have for a solid and proven producing player for now. With no risk comes no reward , and Atl in my opinion has missed the boat quite a few times playing it way to safe by not moving some prospect for a key guy they needed to possibly make it to the series or at least add significantly to the chances of it happening. And now it looks like its a repeat of that same mishap in Braves land again this year. Its often the difference in making the playoffs and going home after one series and being the team playing at the end.

7/30/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

 Tribe gets Ubaldo Jimenez from Rox for pitchers Drew Pomeranz, Alex White & Joe Gardner, & 1B Matt McBride

7/30/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

The Diamondbacks added Jason Marquis from the Nationals for shortstop prospect Zach Walters.

7/30/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Koji Uehara has been traded to Texas for Chris Davis and Tommy Hunter. Decent pick-up for the Rangers, although I will point out that Koji has sometimes had trouble with the heat. Davis and Hunter are somewhat reclamation projects, but at least there's still some potential, which is all you can really ask for when trading middle relievers.

It also makes one wonder if by acquiring Uehara, if Texas has cooled from chasing Heath Bell.

7/30/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Mike Aviles has been traded to the Red Sox, and the rumors are hot that Jason Marquis has been dealt to Arizona.

7/30/11   |   Scott   |   52925 respect

Joe_L wrote:
Nobody needs to stay a Cub, except, Carlos Zambrano.

*fixed

More like Big Z has to stay a Cub.  Nobody is going to want that headcase for the amount of $$$ he is making

7/30/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

(Edited by Eric_)

The Nationals are hot after either Upton or Denard Span (although why the Twins would move Span I have no idea). They also might trade Jason Marquis.

The Orioles are most likely to trade Koji Uehara and maybe Jeremy Guthrie (who did very well last night in what could've been a showcase start). That's about it. If anyone wants Kevin Gregg or Mike Gonzalez for a bag of baseballs and/or a fungo bat though, that can be arranged.

7/30/11   |   Jeff_P   |   19867 respect

Jeff_P wrote:
ARAMIS IS STAYING....doesnt want to move his family........and he NEEDS TO STAY A CUB........

he WONT go thru all the trouble.......HE LIKES CHICAGO........

7/30/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Scott wrote:
Nobody needs to stay a Cub.  Ramirez is a free agent at the end of this season.  He could always accept a trade to a contender, get a better chance to win a title and then resign with the Cubs in the offseason....all without moving his family.

Nobody needs to stay a Cub, except, Carlos Zambrano.

*fixed

7/30/11   |   Scott   |   52925 respect

Jeff_P wrote:
ARAMIS IS STAYING....doesnt want to move his family........and he NEEDS TO STAY A CUB........

Nobody needs to stay a Cub.  Ramirez is a free agent at the end of this season.  He could always accept a trade to a contender, get a better chance to win a title and then resign with the Cubs in the offseason....all without moving his family.

7/30/11   |   Jeff_P   |   19867 respect

Scott wrote:
Rumors in St. Louis are that the Cardinals are seriously looking into acquiring *gulp* Rafael Furcal from the Dodgers.  Also, heard whispers last night at the game that Aramis Ramirez will invoke his no trade clause if the Cubs try to deal him AND that the Pirates were "real close" on a deal with the Twins for Jason Kubel

ARAMIS IS STAYING....doesnt want to move his family........and he NEEDS TO STAY A CUB........

7/30/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

The Tigers added pitching today, acquiring starter Doug Fister and reliever DavidvPauley from the Mariners for third baseman Franciso Martinez, outfielder Casper Wells, southpaw Charlie Furbus, and a player to be named later.

7/30/11   |   Scott   |   52925 respect

Rumors in St. Louis are that the Cardinals are seriously looking into acquiring *gulp* Rafael Furcal from the Dodgers.  Also, heard whispers last night at the game that Aramis Ramirez will invoke his no trade clause if the Cubs try to deal him AND that the Pirates were "real close" on a deal with the Twins for Jason Kubel

7/30/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

I've heard several names tossed around for the Pirates.  Some of them I would love to see in a Pirates uniform, others I would never want to see play here as long as I live.  Now that Pence is with the Phillies, I wonder if the Bucs try to go after Domonic Brown.  I've also heard they're interested in Jason Kubel.  What this team desperately needs is a power bat.  I'm personally hoping to see Michael Cuddyer or Billy Butler.

7/30/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Watching MLB Network right now, and apparently Jerry Hairston, Jr. (currently a National, and yes somehow still in the league) texted Harold Reynolds that he's been traded to Milwaukee. Hairston's actually been average with the bat this year (.268/.342/.385) and can play a lot of positions. My guess he's going to be more of a superutility guy, since SS and 3B aren't really positions he plays.