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A modest Proposal

2/7/10 in Locker Room   |   MaroonAndWhite   |   6 respect

Recently, there has been a rather serious problem going around.

This problem lies within prideful Christians, and how they seem to think that they are better than others (non-believers), just because they are Christians. The affect of this problem is that non-believers are starting to think of us as hypocrites and etc. There is a few simple ways to fix this problem, of course I, being a Christian, know how to do just that. First of all, why do we even care what those non-Christians think? They shouldn’t matter to us at all! We need to be completely close-minded towards whatever they say, because we all know we are right, and they are horribly wrong. Second of all, we need to keep in our minds that these people that are calling us out, are sinful beings. They sin left and right, and have no morals what so ever! As Christians, we are perfect and holy, and we wouldn’t want to get our hands dirty with such things. Third of all, I think we should stop caring for those pagans at all. Why show love to someone that’s less important than you? As Christians, we obviously don’t believe in things like that. Lastly, we should make religion and life one huge contest, and the winners, of course, will be us. We will be because we are the most spiritual, and we will be going to heaven! Not like those non-believers. I strongly believe as soon as we start to live like this, those non-believers would be more skeptical of our religion, and they wouldn’t want to even try to become a Christian. They would try to shun us out, much like we are shunning them! A third benefit is that there would be less unity between the right and important people (Christians), and the wrong and unimportant people (non-Christians). This plan cannot fail.

                        All of you Christians don’t get me wrong. I am not saying at all that we should try to be more open-minded towards non-believers. Of course not! Then those pagans would start to respect us and possibly be more open-minded to us as well! Second of all, don’t think that I am saying that we should also consider that we sin. It’s quite obvious that we are perfect, and holy. It would be wrong of us to connect ourselves with sin. So thank goodness we don’t sin ever. Thirdly, please don’t think that I am saying we should be more loving towards these people. In the Bible, I am sure that there is no place where one loves another person that does not deserve to be loved. Lastly, and I want to be very clear. I am not suggesting that we should stop trying to be the “best Christian”. People, God loves only the best and most holy. It’s time to face the facts. So, Christians, let’s pull together, and make sure everyone knows that being a prideful Christian, is being a real Christian. Humility is not for us. 

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6/30/10   |   tony_dsouza29   |   1 respect

wrote:
Jesus is GOD, he died because people did not believe him, he carried his word all the way to the grave and back. I read that in a book once.

 sorry Jesus is still alive he is wat u r.

4/5/10   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

billiePAL1998 wrote:
How to be a good Christian ......."Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good work and glorify your Father who is in heaven"
Sin is everywhere and being commited every second... but it is the asking of forgiveness and intent prayers that saves us.
We are to lose nothing if we believe and we lose a chance if we dont.

Yes, very well said LOL   

4/5/10   |   bjoseph1995   |   14 respect

billiePAL1998 wrote:
How to be a good Christian ......."Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good work and glorify your Father who is in heaven"
Sin is everywhere and being commited every second... but it is the asking of forgiveness and intent prayers that saves us.
We are to lose nothing if we believe and we lose a chance if we dont.

i do agree with you sis.

4/5/10   |   billiePAL1998   |   2796 respect

How to be a good Christian ......."Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good work and glorify your Father who is in heaven"
Sin is everywhere and being commited every second... but it is the asking of forgiveness and intent prayers that saves us.
We are to lose nothing if we believe and we lose a chance if we dont.

4/5/10   |   bjoseph1995   |   14 respect

i do agree myrna , i life is nothing without Jesus Christ . today what ever i have and what ever i am is cause of his GRACE .John :11-25.

4/4/10   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

Michael_G wrote:
I just noticed that...and I'm not drinking ...you flustered me Janet

 

4/4/10   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

Michael_G wrote:
I guess that's better than putting the "jack" in it.....just saying...

Oh.. Yeah   Mikee   

4/4/10   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

After reading this post, I believe as a Christian myself  I deviate with mostly of his opinion and beliefs.  I am a normal human  being and I  interact with people Christians, Non Christians and other religious sects everyday of my life.  I say that I have many many friends like them and I have high respects for each and everyone. No matter we deviate from our beliefs we do have some common goals in life and we help one another just like anybody.  I believe we are all sinners here on earth and Jesus Christ redeemed us when he died on the cross.   As a Christian I  do and act according to my  belief  which is to   Love God and  man.  I also believe that this post is his own belief  and I respect him for that  hence this comment.  I love God and man no matter what  color  and I respect them just as they respect me.

4/4/10   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

wrote:
If that is truly the intent of the author, then I am pleased, and relieved.  Unfortunately, I have dealt with mindsets similar to the one presented in the body of the 'proposal' too many times to dismiss such without clarification.

Taking the position that this article is presented with the intent of exposing the hypocrisy of some elements of the Christian community, I would like to bring forth another issue--the 'castigation' of good Christians (those who live true to their beliefs) attributed to the backlash resulting from the adverse rhetorical perspectives and actions of those who cast their faith in an ill light.  I think it's obvious I am not Christian; most people have very 'colourful' reactions, perspectives, and judgments of my beliefs.  I used to argue the various theological and psycho-social results of history and of our current society lumping all Christians in the same 'corral'.  I did so, until receiving an e-mail from an individual (a Christian) who "woke me up" as to the stereotypical associations I was using in my addressing the issue.  The message was from an individual much younger than I; s/he was very humble with regard to the adversities I was pointing out in the general forum, and also identifying how I too was guilty of associating the Christian faith and all Christians into singular classifications. 

I spent a great amount of thought about that exchange, and (such as now) still do.  It is for this reason that I endeavor to ensure I speak as to an individual nature of the conversation as each individual is responsible for their own actions, and I especially do not wish to classify those Christians with whom I do respect and call friends to be included in any adversity or animosity created by others who only seek to create such.  It's the reason why I apply such a high degree of focus towards the essence of addressing individuals (or defining groups by their actions and not in a generic manner), and (boorishly to those who listen to my own rhetoric) with the consideration of mutual respect between good peoples of the many different aspects that define who we / they are in life.

4/4/10   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

wrote:
  For purpose of clarification, I am innocent of any hijacking--in this thread.....

Yay... that's true LOL   and  I'm just innocent .... innocent  .. to this day. 

4/4/10   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

janet011685 wrote:
We do have a highjacking problem. 
Where's the damn "Filter Error: Superbowl Edition"?

Well, none at all to me LOL,    I know you're a click away from it,  you have to browse on the sports you wanted to look for ad it's there honey.    Love yah.   

4/4/10   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

wrote:
You've got that right--a very unfortunate portrayal of why a very benevolent belief system such is Christianity is viewed in such an ill light.  Ghandi said it best: "the only problem with Christianity are Christians.

The irony of the above are the numerous contradictions between the sentiments of what is written to the Bible this individual supposedly holds in such high regard.  I would recommend reading further.

I hold many Christians in very high regard for living (through their actions) according to the tenants of their faith.  I have many friends with whom mutual respect is exchanged regardless of the differences in our beliefs.  You can call yourself whatever you desire.  However, based upon my own studies, your perspectives are far from Christian.

Yes, and well said Heathen 

4/4/10   |   myrna_ventura   |   1214 respect

wrote:
Jesus is GOD, he died because people did not believe him, he carried his word all the way to the grave and back. I read that in a book once.

Same sentiments LOL   thanks for the good post.

2/9/10   |   bjoseph1995   |   14 respect

janet011685 wrote:
Funny.   
And sad, at the same time. 

u r funny

2/9/10   |   MaroonAndWhite   |   6 respect

 Thank you all for the comments. It obviously is a satire, but I am calling Christians out for doing such things. 

2/8/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

wrote:
 Jasonwrites disease!

Spreading like the damn plague.

2/8/10   |   marcus_nyce   |   27833 respect

That's my kinda high school kid. That was epic. (That's good for them right?)

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

Michael_G wrote:
I just noticed that...and I'm not drinking ...you flustered me Janet

2/7/10   |   Michael_G   |   38469 respect

janet011685 wrote:
And I still respect you ... even though you replied to your own comment. 

I just noticed that...and I'm not drinking ...you flustered me Janet

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

(Edited by janet011685)

And I still respect you ... even though you replied to your own comment. 

2/7/10   |   Michael_G   |   38469 respect

Michael_G wrote:
You did....

I still respect you....see...I respected you twice

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

Michael_G wrote:
You did....

  Curses!  Fell for it again! 
***waving fists angrily in front of me***

2/7/10   |   Michael_G   |   38469 respect

janet011685 wrote:
Who blabbed? 


You did....

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

Michael_G wrote:
you could never go 94 days....who are you kidding...

Who blabbed? 


2/7/10   |   Michael_G   |   38469 respect

Ya know what's really funny...look at how this thread started....I'm very proud of all of us.

2/7/10   |   Michael_G   |   38469 respect

janet011685 wrote:
Matter of opinion. 

So when I go to Highjackers Anonymous, I should stand up and say that my name is Janet and it's been 94 days since I last got high on jacking?    This is beginning to sound like a REALLY bad porno. 

you could never go 94 days....who are you kidding...

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

Michael_G wrote:
I guess that's better than putting the "jack" in it.....just saying...

Matter of opinion. 

So when I go to Highjackers Anonymous, I should stand up and say that my name is Janet and it's been 94 days since I last got high on jacking?    This is beginning to sound like a REALLY bad porno. 

2/7/10   |   Michael_G   |   38469 respect

wrote:
 But you put the "high" in "highjacking" 

I guess that's better than putting the "jack" in it.....just saying...

2/7/10   |   kteacher   |   34439 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
because i would have to answer the poll first per the hijacking handbook and i have no idea what you all are ever talking about! thats why!

OK..fair enough. GO SAINTS!!!!!!

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

GO GOLTS...i'm out.

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

kteacher wrote:
Hmmmmmph...why don't you both try hijacking my  Kings polls? I dare you.


(YEP----That's what I thought. lol)

because i would have to answer the poll first per the hijacking handbook and i have no idea what you all are ever talking about! thats why!

2/7/10   |   kteacher   |   34439 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
well you and i know this thread would already be dead had we not saved its life and its the super bowl, i may just hijack them all today! ssshhh. dont tell anybody!

Hmmmmmph...why don't you both try hijacking my  Kings polls? I dare you.


(YEP----That's what I thought. lol)

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
well you and i know this thread would already be dead had we not saved its life and its the super bowl, i may just hijack them all today! ssshhh. dont tell anybody!

True.  Good call. 

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

janet011685 wrote:
We do have a highjacking problem. 
Where's the damn "Filter Error: Superbowl Edition"?

well you and i know this thread would already be dead had we not saved its life and its the super bowl, i may just hijack them all today! ssshhh. dont tell anybody!

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

We do have a highjacking problem. 
Where's the damn "Filter Error: Superbowl Edition"?

2/7/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

wrote:
 Congratulations, Young Master MaroonandWhite, you've arrived-- your thread has been hijacked by the dread pirate Locker Room crew. 

For a reference to one of my two favorite movies of all time.

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

wrote:
 Congratulations, Young Master MaroonandWhite, you've arrived-- your thread has been hijacked by the dread pirate Locker Room crew. 

i was just getting ready to applaud this hijacking myself. great minds i guess.

2/7/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

janet011685 wrote:
  Grrrr.

Don't be too mad, you'll get another chance to have your "comment thunder" again.

2/7/10   |   The_Real_Stoney   |   25697 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
i'm older, she sounds like me. and i sound like this all the time, i just never have to direct it at you...so straighten up and fly right before you sink my battleship and....

B-5

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

The_Real_Stoney wrote:
  now you sound like your Q sister

i'm older, she sounds like me. and i sound like this all the time, i just never have to direct it at you...so straighten up and fly right before you sink my battleship and....

2/7/10   |   The_Real_Stoney   |   25697 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
Shut it!!! lol

  now you sound like your Q sister

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Same "no PQ" rule applies. I said it first anyhow.

  Grrrr.

2/7/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

janet011685 wrote:
Grrr, don't steal my comment thunder!  Erase it NOW!  lol

Same "no PQ" rule applies. I said it first anyhow.

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

janet011685 wrote:
A) You said "sassafras".  (church giggles)
B) "Disowned for the day, you are"?  Do you always talk like Yoda when you're mad?   

Sisterly love. 

what james said. thats the first time thats ever happened...seriously!

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
You made her so mad Janet, she turned into Yoda...

Grrr, don't steal my comment thunder!  Erase it NOW!  lol

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

The_Real_Stoney wrote:
so you're into DP?
kind of an odd thing to bring up here

Shut it!!! lol

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
F*%@#*& BS sassafras! DISOWNED FOR THE DAY, YOU ARE!

A) You said "sassafras".  (church giggles)
B) "Disowned for the day, you are"?  Do you always talk like Yoda when you're mad?   

Sisterly love. 

2/7/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
F*%@#*& BS sassafras! DISOWNED FOR THE DAY, YOU ARE!

You made her so mad Janet, she turned into Yoda...

2/7/10   |   The_Real_Stoney   |   25697 respect

so you're into DP?
kind of an odd thing to bring up here

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

janet011685 wrote:


So now would be a bad time to mention that I'm hoping the Saints win? 
Oh wait, there's no more PQ option around here, f*ck it ... GO SAINTS! 

F*%@#*& BS sassafras! DISOWNED FOR THE DAY, YOU ARE!

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

kobe_lova wrote:
your comment made me laugh..OOR for you so...Happy COLTS BOWL DAY!



So now would be a bad time to mention that I'm hoping the Saints win? 
Oh wait, there's no more PQ option around here, f*ck it ... GO SAINTS! 

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

janet011685 wrote:

I figured it was too insane to be for real, even taking into account the crazies out there.  But there was a nervous laughter moment where I thought he just MIGHT be serious.   

your comment made me laugh..OOR for you so...Happy COLTS BOWL DAY!

2/7/10   |   kteacher   |   34439 respect

wrote:
The author here is not serious, he is satirical. By titling his article "A Modest Proposal" he is directly alluding to an essay of the same title written in the 18th century by Jonathan Swift (author of Gulliver's Travels). Swift made a "modest proposal" that Ireland could solve its problems with overpopulation and famine by simply eating the Irish babies. Of course, many readers reacted with shock and outrage, which is exactly what Swift wanted. He wasn't actually endorsing cannibalism-- he was bringing to light the suffering of the Irish people under the subjugation and oppressive rule of the British Crown, and pointing out how the British tended to treat the Irish as subhuman.

I think the young author here is attempting the same thing, with the actual goal of exposing the hypocrisy of so-called "Christians."

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Read the post above from Jason, it's complete satire. Sorry to burst your bubble.

oh...he's like 12 and tagged this under rumors...makes sense now.   i read jason's post and i still dont get it.

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

The_Real_Stoney wrote:
PLEASE tell me this kid is serious.. I have so many favorite parts, I can't pick this one.  It could be the part where I am "wrong and unimportant"
I love how really Christian people honestly feel that they are better because they are too frightened to take responsibility for their own lives.  Oh and I love how this kid talks about why non-believers can't stand Christians because they are hypocrites, etc, then he goes on to be hypocritical and holier than thou
I hope hope hope, more people write sh*t like this, because I love it
Jesus and Santa Claus love you

I figured it was too insane to be for real, even taking into account the crazies out there.  But there was a nervous laughter moment where I thought he just MIGHT be serious.   

2/7/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

The_Real_Stoney wrote:
PLEASE tell me this kid is serious.. I have so many favorite parts, I can't pick this one.  It could be the part where I am "wrong and unimportant"
I love how really Christian people honestly feel that they are better because they are too frightened to take responsibility for their own lives.  Oh and I love how this kid talks about why non-believers can't stand Christians because they are hypocrites, etc, then he goes on to be hypocritical and holier than thou
I hope hope hope, more people write sh*t like this, because I love it
Jesus and Santa Claus love you

Read the post above from Jason, it's complete satire. Sorry to burst your bubble.

2/7/10   |   kobe_lova   |   62497 respect

(Edited by kobe_lova)

i know. I got confused and stopped reading because i wasnt sure if i should be laughing as hard as I was. Are they inspiring or chastizing? i have no idea but i know a hypocrite when i see one and i did see most of them in church.

2/7/10   |   The_Real_Stoney   |   25697 respect

PLEASE tell me this kid is serious.. I have so many favorite parts, I can't pick this one.  It could be the part where I am "wrong and unimportant"
I love how really Christian people honestly feel that they are better because they are too frightened to take responsibility for their own lives.  Oh and I love how this kid talks about why non-believers can't stand Christians because they are hypocrites, etc, then he goes on to be hypocritical and holier than thou
I hope hope hope, more people write sh*t like this, because I love it
Jesus and Santa Claus love you

2/7/10   |   janet011685   |   25875 respect

Funny.   
And sad, at the same time. 

2/7/10   |   cuddles127017   |   8133 respect

There is none righteous, no, not one.