AFC Championship Live Thread: New York Jets At Indianapolis Colts
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Now That It Matters, Will The Result Be Different Between The Colts And Jets? [AFC Championship Live Thread]

1/24/10 in NFL   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

We've seen this one before. In Week 16, the Jets came into Lucas Oil Stadium, made a game out of it for a little bit, and then the Colts rolled over like a well-trained labrador. They brought in their backups, let the Jets cruise to a win, blew their chances for a perfect season, and let the Jets' dying playoff chances survive.

Thanks to the Colts' tank job, the Jets managed to sneak into the playoffs, and now that they've laid waste to the Bengals and Chargers, they're returning to Indianapolis with the hopes of showing that their earlier win over the Colts wasn't just a charity case.

77% of you picked the Colts to win, and it's understandable. Considering the way they beat the Ravens, it makes sense. Rex Ryan's philosophy is the same one they use in Baltimore, and the teams really are quite similar as well.

The game starts at 3:00 pm EST, and you can catch it on CBS. If you're watching, here's your place to chat it up throughout the afternoon. Enjoy the game!
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1/26/10   |   chrismac   |   53 respect

Onegoodredhead2 wrote:
we know had the colts played their starters they would have broken the Fins record.....i dont think anyone doubts that......it is what it is and football is about winning championships, not breaqking records,as much as i would have loved to see it for the colts players!
(Edited by chrismac)

I think what makes it worse after the fact was Bill Polian saying that garbage about how he wanted to lead win's this decade, if I'm not mistaken. I think for most fan's we wanted to see a team do it or attempt to do it. It's why we respected the Patriots. That team had balls.

1/24/10   |   Onegoodredhead2   |   9961 respect

chrismac wrote:
is it too early to argue over the "go for 16-0"

we know had the colts played their starters they would have broken the Fins record.....i dont think anyone doubts that......it is what it is and football is about winning championships, not breaqking records,as much as i would have loved to see it for the colts players!

1/24/10   |   Onegoodredhead2   |   9961 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
It's an almost unfair fit for that to end on a Sanchez INT. He made it known that he'll throw plenty of interceptions in his rookie season and probably career, but he also had one fantastic game today.

absolutely! the Jets have Nothing to be  ashamed about! They beat a Charger team that few thought they would win.they played the colts well,and hard!! I have nothing but respect for the Jets and Sanchez! He gave us fans a great title conference game! A gazillion respects to them!

1/24/10   |   Onegoodredhead2   |   9961 respect

Pat wrote:
But right now, Drew Brees is a better QB than Brett Favre. So wouldn't you rather see the Saints win? I mean... Brett Favre being good 10 years ago is kinda irrelevant now, when it comes to watching one game.

who ever wins the nfc championship ,it will still be 2 exceptional Qbs...

1/24/10   |   Onegoodredhead2   |   9961 respect

maddhatter6691 wrote:
How every you want to look at it the Colts P*ssed away a Perfect Season and they will never get that Chance Again    VIKINGS 31  SAINTS 28       JETS 17  COLTS 13   

never say never or always...

1/24/10   |   Onegoodredhead2   |   9961 respect

Scott wrote:
And whether you like Peyton Manning or not, I hope everybody realizes that you are watching one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history do his thing.

amen  and fpr all tose whosaid he didnt deserve MVP  i hope they see he did:) A great game and my utmost respect to the jets for a great game and season!

1/24/10   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

But right now, Drew Brees is a better QB than Brett Favre. So wouldn't you rather see the Saints win? I mean... Brett Favre being good 10 years ago is kinda irrelevant now, when it comes to watching one game.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

wrote:
Up until this season, the Cowboys never had the capability to close the roof anyway... The Cowboys have always been an "outside team".....  Remember the game against Miami with all the snow on the field in Dallas?

Yes I remember that game.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

wrote:
Absolutely I would! I NEVER liked football being played indoors. Whether or not it benefits the Cowboys doesn't really matter to me at all. Football should be played outdoors.....

I agree it should be. I have always thought  if you have to have a stadium with a dome for concerts or anything else is fine but when it comes to football it should be enforced the roof be opened.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Well regardless of the outcome of the NFC Championship, we'll see 2 dome teams in Miami.

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

 fun fact, every one of the colts super bowls were in miami.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

wrote:
I hope it is pouring down raining in the Super Bowl! It would be nice to see two Dome Teams have to play in real football weather for the biggest prize in the NFL! 

The real question is "if" Dallas was still in it would you be saying the same thing. Just saying.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
It's an almost unfair fit for that to end on a Sanchez INT. He made it known that he'll throw plenty of interceptions in his rookie season and probably career, but he also had one fantastic game today.

This reminds me of Flacco last year, his first real mistake was the pick-6 by Polamalu at the end of the game.

1/24/10   |   chrismac   |   53 respect

is it too early to argue over the "go for 16-0"

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

 just waiting for the NFC Championship Game thread to open......

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

redsox1002003 wrote:
 and it ends on a dirty sanchez int. good run jets, but you guys just need a little more experience (and wait until manning and brady retires)

It's an almost unfair fit for that to end on a Sanchez INT. He made it known that he'll throw plenty of interceptions in his rookie season and probably career, but he also had one fantastic game today.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

chrismac wrote:
Garcon has been great but it still has to be Manning. But Collies numbers aren't too much worse. Manning's used all his weapons efficiently and effectively. He's assassinated the defense in the second half.

I agree that Collie has had an amazing performance, but Garcon has had to go get some of the balls thrown his way as were some of Collie's catches have come from mistakes by the secondary. Just my opinion.

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

 and it ends on a dirty sanchez int. good run jets, but you guys just need a little more experience (and wait until manning and brady retires)

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

There goes the Jets' last chance, Sanchez is picked off and the Colts are AFC Champs.

1/24/10   |   HouTxFan   |   5103 respect

Pop goes the Jets!

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

 they wish they kept Stover too

1/24/10   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

As someone who thought about picking 27-17 Colts, then changed his mind to 27-13, I'm glad the Colts kicked that field goal.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Definitely don't need any injuries here, especially a guy of Freeney's caliber.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Alright Jets, lose this one quickly, I need to make a drinks run before the NFC game starts...

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Stover makes the kick, and that should do it barring a miracle.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

redsox1002003 wrote:
 with revis covering wayne all game, someone had to step up, and it was garcon.

Collie had a pretty good game as well. I understand they had to go away from Wayne/Revis, but Pierre has also been making some fantastic routes and great catches that helped immensely.

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

 game set and match. the colts are going back to miami. hope it doesnt rain this time.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

wrote:
I say Garcon is the MVP, but it wouldn't surprise me if it went to Peyton. Just as he got the MVP in his Super Bowl and should have been his runningbacks who received the award!  Just a thought!

Peyton has played a lot better in this game than he did in that Super Bowl, but Garcon should still get the MVP for this game for sure.

1/24/10   |   chrismac   |   53 respect

Joe_L wrote:
Garcon

Garcon has been great but it still has to be Manning. But Collies numbers aren't too much worse. Manning's used all his weapons efficiently and effectively. He's assassinated the defense in the second half.

1/24/10   |   al3xsucks13   |   16 respect

Vikes-Colts

Vikes Take Superbowl :DDDDDDDDDDDDd

1/24/10   |   al3xsucks13   |   16 respect

Pierre Garcon putting on for Haiti!!!!@!@!@!@!@!

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
I think I have to go with him too, Pierre with a great move and nice catch again on 3rd down.

 with revis covering wayne all game, someone had to step up, and it was garcon.

1/24/10   |   Scott   |   52674 respect

And whether you like Peyton Manning or not, I hope everybody realizes that you are watching one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history do his thing.

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

Scott wrote:
I marvel at the way the Colts can just plug guys into this system and have them contribute.  Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon are making names for themselves in this game

 thats how the patriots system was last decade, and it looks like the colts have created their own system that works.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Joe_L wrote:
Garcon

I think I have to go with him too, Pierre with a great move and nice catch again on 3rd down.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Garcon is having a coming out party today, incredible game.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
MVP of today's game? Peyton or Garcon?

Garcon

1/24/10   |   Scott   |   52674 respect

I marvel at the way the Colts can just plug guys into this system and have them contribute.  Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon are making names for themselves in this game

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

MVP of today's game? Peyton or Garcon?

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

the best way to avoid revis island is to not go there. manning has thrown his way once all game.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

3-and-out for the Jets, I think the Cinderella run has finally come to an end.  Sanchez has played well, better than the other rookies in his position have done, unfortunately it doesn't look like it'll be enough.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

I'm pretty sure Peyton was voted MVP because he lead his team to 14 straight wins and was statistically the best QB out there. Don't think it has anything to do with being head and shoulders above a still-rookie Sanchez.

1/24/10   |   gdmjrcr   |   345 respect

I hope it isn't to but turn out the lights the party is over for jets.

1/24/10   |   chrismac   |   53 respect

Without Greene they lost a huge element. No game breaker unless you run wildcat.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

redsox1002003 wrote:
 i was just about to put that if the colts scored a touchdown, the game is over, and thats exactly what happened. the jets gave everything they had in the first half. 

They need to make a score on this drive (obviously), even 3 here, I'll still give them a chance. If not, then it'll be over.

1/24/10   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

kramer wrote:
Sorry that I don't have any sympathy for him.  He's also missed from 44.  He hasn't been able to kick it straight and there's no wind or anything affecting him.  That IMO makes it worse.

I'm not saying have sympathy, I'm saying you can't compared someone to Norwood for missing a 50+ yarder. I just checked last season, and the rate of completion was about 63% (66/104). Better, but far from certain.

1/24/10   |   HouTxFan   |   5103 respect

That sound you may be hearing is the wind whoosing out of the Jets' sails.

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

 i was just about to put that if the colts scored a touchdown, the game is over, and thats exactly what happened. the jets gave everything they had in the first half. 

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Dallas Clark wide open for the score, Jets are up s*** creek without a paddle right now.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Under the old rules, that might have been a 5-yard face mask.

1/24/10   |   chrismac   |   53 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
To be fair, you can compare that to any hitter in MLB who get paid to "choke" 70% of the time too...It's all relative.

touche, sir

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

chrismac wrote:
it seems like it's a down year for kickers except for the upper echelon of kickers. Sad these guys get paid to choke on a regular basis.

To be fair, you can compare that to any hitter in MLB who get paid to "choke" 70% of the time too...It's all relative.

1/24/10   |   chrismac   |   53 respect

That fumble was an easy 3 points for Jets. Wait, nevermind.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Wayne falls on his own fumble.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Eric_ wrote:
I just checked. This year kickers were barely over 50% from 50+ (55/104). Dome or not, that's never an easy kick.

Sorry that I don't have any sympathy for him.  He's also missed from 44.  He hasn't been able to kick it straight and there's no wind or anything affecting him.  That IMO makes it worse.

1/24/10   |   chrismac   |   53 respect

Eric_ wrote:
I just checked. This year kickers were barely over 50% from 50+ (55/104). Dome or not, that's never an easy kick.

it seems like it's a down year for kickers except for the upper echelon of kickers. Sad these guys get paid to choke on a regular basis.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Sanchez will learn fast that you should never throw it like that when you're trying to throw it away.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Rookie, throw to the sideline that's closer to you, enough of this cross-body/across the field crap..

1/24/10   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

kramer wrote:
It's in a dome though.  He's playing like Josh Brown in SB XL, can't kick it straight.

I just checked. This year kickers were barely over 50% from 50+ (55/104). Dome or not, that's never an easy kick.

1/24/10   |   redsox1002003   |   881 respect

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

15 minutes from the Super Bowl, here we go...

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Jericho could've been having games like this all year long, might've helped with my 3rd WR position a little bit more...

1/24/10   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

The Jets shouldn't be trying to kick long field goals. Punt the damn ball, play the field position game, and that's how you win this game. Not by settling for 50-yard FG's and giving the Colts great field position. That's stupid.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Eric_ wrote:
To be fair, that was a 52 yarder.

Meanwhile, when the Colts offense is on, it is ON.

It's in a dome though.  He's playing like Josh Brown in SB XL, can't kick it straight.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

There's the Braylon Edwards I know.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

non-call followed by a bullet up the middle. For any quarterback, forget rookies, Sanchez is having a hell of a game.

1/24/10   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

kramer wrote:
Are these kickers all related to Norwood or something?

To be fair, that was a 52 yarder.

Meanwhile, when the Colts offense is on, it is ON.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Pierre Garcon, wow. Did that left foot actually touch though?

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Colts get the TD, Manning is starting to play like Manning and the Colts offense is heating up.  That's bad news for the Jets.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

First and goal for the Colts.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

The handicapped defenders couldn't wrap up Addai.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

For how great this Jets defense is, and there's no denying how great they are, they MAY want to learn how to tackle..

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

And that's one of those passes that only Peyton Manning can make.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

kramer wrote:
Are these kickers all related to Norwood or something?

With all those coaching trees out there, somebody might want to make a Scott Norwood disciple tree, could have fun with that one.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

(Edited by kramer)

Are these kickers all related to Norwood or something?

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

The postseason kicking failures continue.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Feely with another miss, never had a chance.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

4 play 3 of them going to Collie, hmmmmmm maybe someone should cover him next time.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

The real Peyton showed up after the 2-minute warning and the Colts do it again.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Well, that was quick...

46 yarder to Collie followed by 18 yards to Collie. And now it's 17-13.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

(Edited by Joe_L)

Feely 48 yard field goal is good 17-6 Jets increase there lead.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Feely makes it this time, go figure he misses the one that was 5 yards shorter.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Feely right down the middle, two possession game now.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Jets with another big defensive play, and in scoring position.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

(Edited by Joe_L)

Pace drills Addai, fumbles and Jets recover.

1/24/10   |   xtra_ill   |   538 respect

Good grief hell of a play.

1/24/10   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

I'm not a big Sanchez fan, but that pass to Keller was nice, especially in that pressure. Very impressive.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Sanchez to Keller TD 14-6 Jets lead.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Took the big hit, and still made the throw. Wow. Jets might pull this one off.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Nice pass, TD Jets.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Sanchez is very, very fortunate that ball went out of bounds.

1/24/10   |   adrisoto86   |   117 respect

the Colts could have prevented this from happening if they would have played their starters. the Jets would probably be sitting at home right now. but noooooooo...they had to rest.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Nice throw there by the WR and now in the red zone again.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Smith to Cotchery nice play, little under thrown keeps the Colts guessing.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

I don't know what the requirements for a HoF fullback are, but Tony Richardson better be one. Directly impacting the careers of Marcus Allen, Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson, Adrian Peterson, and now Thomas Jones/Shonn Greene? Crazy.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

wrote:
I thought they took Addai to the lockerroom- whats up with that!

They did, but I guess it wasn't that serious.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Colts offensive failure again.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Nice little hurdle by Addai.

1/24/10   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

(Edited by Eric_)

Holy crap, the Izod IndyCar commercial. Did not see that coming.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

wrote:
Exactly- 2 amazing plays by GARCON- not Manning.....  just a thought!  Both of those passes were bad, but Garcon made the play!

Manning got the ball to his guy, he's not playing like Romo last week, or Russell, like you tried to compare him to.  This isn't the place to argue though, so be quiet and watch the game before I sick your wife on you.

1/24/10   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

According to Football Outsiders, NFL Matchup called that:

NFL Matchup said Jets take a shot deep on their third series. That's next time out.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

(Edited by Joe_L)

That was fast 7-3 Jets, and what the hell is Braylon doing catching the ball?

1/24/10   |   billywa   |   658 respect

 Braylon Edwards catches a perfectly thrown ball?????  Hell has frozen over! The Apocalypse is upon us!

1/24/10   |   adrisoto86   |   117 respect

never thought i'd hear the name Braylon Edwards during this game lol. that was nice.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Edwards made the wide-open catch for 6...If this were any other Sunday, he'd miss that, so big advantage today for NYJ.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Edwards with an 80-yard TD catch.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Stover just made it in to put the Colts on the board.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

clock fail

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

(Edited by Joe_L)

That drive stalled in a hurry, bad play calling and stupid palliates.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Hey Vin, what was that about Peyton looking like Jamarcus?  That's 2 amazing plays for Garcon.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Garcon again, that guy's a rookie?

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

wrote:
DAMN, the Jets Defense is making Peyton Manning look like JaMarcus Russell- LOL!

That really didn't last that long, Pierre Garcon with a big gain.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Bad tackling + awesome moves = great play catch & run by Garcon.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

wrote:
Not really... They are making him black and blue right now- LOL!

One slight problem, Peyton at least knows how to throw the ball.  Nobody in the league is as bad as Russell, and nobody can be compared to him, he's the current Ryan Leaf.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

wrote:
DAMN, the Jets Defense is making Peyton Manning look like JaMarcus Russell- LOL!

That's physically impossible.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Peyton just gives up, lays down instead of being hit. Probably a good idea, he looks like he might get hit enough today.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

kramer wrote:
Feely pulls a Josh Brown, can't kick it straight in a dome.

Kris Brown also agrees.

1/24/10   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Field goal luck is a fickle mistress.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Joe_L wrote:
That was a good game.

Sure was, and probably would've gone to OT had Timonen not tossed the puck over the glass for that DOG penalty.

*Okay, I'm done hijacking the football thread for hockey.*

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Jay misses the field goal.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Feely pulls a Josh Brown, can't kick it straight in a dome.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

The theme of this postseason continues, missed FG.

1/24/10   |   Debi_L   |   11847 respect

FAIL 

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Braylon made a catch, that's always good.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

That was an absolutely ridiculous pass.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

kramer wrote:
Pens win 2-1, turn on CBS just in time for the opening kickoff, couldn't have timed the Pens/Flyers game any better. :)

That was a good game.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

You don't see that too often, Peyton sacked.

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
I've wondered this for years, do ANY of you have a SAP button on your televisions?

Sure do.

1/24/10   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Pens win 2-1, turn on CBS just in time for the opening kickoff, couldn't have timed the Pens/Flyers game any better. :)

1/24/10   |   HouTxFan   |   5103 respect

Finally...kickoff!

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

I've wondered this for years, do ANY of you have a SAP button on your televisions?

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Nantz's deep/serious voice should not be used....ever.

1/24/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

Colts 24 - Jets 17

Just finished watching the Roddick/Gonzalez match that I started watching this morning at 5am...I wake up at about the exact time I fell asleep to, creepy.

1/24/10   |   maddhatter6691   |   7918 respect

Yes it has been a long day waiting for the Games  

1/24/10   |   maddhatter6691   |   7918 respect

How every you want to look at it the Colts P*ssed away a Perfect Season and they will never get that Chance Again    VIKINGS 31  SAINTS 28       JETS 17  COLTS 13   

1/24/10   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

Saints 31-29 over the Vikings
Colts 27-23 over the Jets