Anderson Silva Claims Dan Henderson Is Not A Real Middleweight Title Contender

Anderson Silva Wants A Real Challenge, And Says Dan Henderson Isn't Ready To Offer That

8/12/09 in MMA   |   Pat   |   5234 respect


Anderson Silva is clearly getting bored with the UFC's middleweight division, where he has been tearing through the competition, and has already defended his title successfully 6 times against the best fighters the UFC has to offer. So now, he's left to post videos on YouTube of himself impersonating fighters like Lyoto Machida, Chuck Liddell, Kimbo Slice, Tank Abbott, Royce Gracie, Wanderlei Silva, and Randy Couture.

Seriously, though, Silva's dominance of the middleweight division has brought out all kinds of rumors, from the possibility of him vacating his middleweight belt and fighting full time at light heavyweight, or possibly fighting in a rematch against Dan Henderson for the middleweight title.

Last time they fought, Silva choked out Henderson late in the 2nd round. Now, his manager is saying that Dan Henderson isn't really a legitimate title contender yet, and the better match would be against the winner of Nate Marquardt and Demian Maia. Personally, I would like to see Henderson fight the winner of that fight, and then the winner could fight Silva. Anderson has already beaten Henderson and Marquardt, and although Maia has been dominant and is undefeated in the UFC, he's a lot like Thales Leites, who was beaten by Silva in a 5-round snoozefest, thanks to Leites' complete lack of aggression.

Another reason I would like to see them fight more before getting a shot at Silva is because he has already hinted at retirement after his current contract expires. He has 3 fights remaining, and I would prefer to see as many of those fights as possible come against the best possible opponents. For the most part, those fighters are in the 205 lb weight class.

Silva needs to fight another top contender at light heavyweight, and then perhaps defend his belt against Henderson, Maia or Marquardt, and then he needs to fight for the light heavyweight title, assuming he keeps winning. While he says that he has nothing left to prove to anyone, I think it would be interesting to see him attempt to hold belts in multiple weight classes, and defend both of them for a decent amount of time. I honestly think it's possible.

Silva's manager, Ed Soares, says he wants to give Anderson the biggest challenge possible. Yet he still says that Silva won't fight his close friend and training partner, current light heavyweight champ Lyoto Machida. Somewhere along the line, that might have to change that policy, especially with the way Silva toyed with Forrest Griffin at UFC 101. That fight was a joke, and Silva was never in any danger whatsoever.

So here's what we know:
  • Anderson Silva isn't vacating his middleweight title to fight permanently at 205
  • Silva won't fight Machida
  • He still wants a challenge at both weight classes
So who's next? The winner of the Rampage Jackson-Rashad Evans fight will get a title shot against Lyoto Machida. So should Silva fight the loser? Or perhaps Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, after he fights Machida. If Rua wins, that would be a great way to give Anderson Silva a title shot without making him fight his friend. If Rua loses, then a fight between him and Silva would be a solid fight to determine who is a legit contender.

Anderson Silva may not have much time left in the UFC, and Dana White will have to get creative to give Silva a challenge and keep the fans interested. If not Henderson or Machida, who do you think Silva should fight next?


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8/14/09   |   hapkido_warrior   |   272 respect

Jardine might be effective, but id like to see Rashad fight him more, If anyone remembers rashad tore through a good chunk of the LHW division, used to fight heavyweight, has great standup and wrestling skill so i think besides machida hes got the best chance
Id say GSP has the skills to take silva but the weight and reach advantage is way to great for silva
he doesnt walk around at 185 or 205 he walks around at 225 and has a 77' reach,
GSP walks around at 190 and is much smaller then silva
although GSP has the greatest transitioning skill in the game he wont be able to overcome silva on the feet with his pick apart style and i doubt he ll be able to overcome silva's jiu jitsu, particaularily with the weight advantage for silva.
I dont even know if silva could cut all the way down to catchweight, thats about 50 pounds to cut

8/14/09   |   AshELarry

If Silva wants a challenge, then let him fight Nate or Dan one more time, which will give GSP plenty of time to heal from his injuries.  Then the UFC can have the two of them fight at a catch weight of 177 (or something) because a lot of fans would love to see that fight.  If Silva only wants to fight at 205, let him fight Jardine, his style of fighting gives other fighters a hard time (except Wandi). 

8/14/09   |   hapkido_warrior   |   272 respect

he already dropped the roy jones jr thing hes no longer interested in it
and if you listened to his post fight interview at ufc 101 then you would realize he said he was anxious about moving up to 205 since the guys are 'so big' he didnt say anxious and the word itself is an overstatement making him sound more nervous then he is, but he doesnt like fighting guys who are near his size, that is what has become abundantly clear
I agree Anderson is big but he likes fighting with a size/reach advantage
you think Frank Shamrock or Robbie Lawler could put up the same fight as Tito Ortiz, rashad or thiago silva are you serious? some of these guys are good but really they are not in the same league as guys like thiago silva and rashad evans who were both unbeaten until they encountered machida, their just an entirely different caliber fighter
rashad evans has the standup skill to avoid the counters and the ground skills to get some good GNP
I thought Rampage was the last on that list because if you saw his performance against Griffin and Henderson those three guys are pretty evenly matched and two of them so far have gotten ktfo by silva

Fedor cuts weight when he weighs in to try to make 235
and yes im not debating Anderson silva is a fucking huge middleweight
but the fact is he likes being in that position, and since he wasnt originally sure about moving up to a weight class where he cuts 20 pounds in

yeah it would be hella sick though man i ll give you that, although id honestly prefer to see Fedor take out Brock before he fights silva

8/13/09   |   ipunki   |   91 respect

Put him in against Brock Lesner!!!

8/13/09   |   hapkido_warrior   |   272 respect

you might not be able to make that statement but Anderson Silva can, being ranked #1 P4P fighter and being a fan favorite pretty much gives you that right
Fedor walks around at about 245
Anderson silva is anxious about fighting in a weight class where hes cutting 15 pounds
how do you think he ll feel about fighting in a weight class where he has to add 35 pounds
the fact is Dana is having no luck trying to set up a Brock/Fedor fight, no one really knows where Fedor is going right now 100% and anderson silva isnt just going to walk away from his belt for any reason
hes not gonna go and join an organization with even fewer contenders just to fight one man who no has ever even considered him fighting
he has plenty of other fights in the LHW category before thoughts of such crazy jumps can be thought of,
Rashad Evans, Tito Ortiz is coming back, Rampage Jackson, Thiago Silva
the idea of a silva vs Fedor fight is just so outlandish and crazy, i can garuntee anderson silva will never fight Fedor

8/13/09   |   hapkido_warrior   |   272 respect

"What would be the over/under on how long it would take for the first legit punch to be thrown in a Silva/Machida fight?

I'm going with 6 minutes.

Silva should just get his three fights out of the way.  All he has to do is lose one of them.  Then he's free to sign with Strikeforce and fight Fedor."

Several things are wrong with this, first of all Anderson Silva would not fight Fedor due to the fact that he fights in the heavyweight division and Anderson traditionally fights as middleweight/lightheavyweight
second: if anderson silva really wanted to leave the UFC he could do it, the only interest hes ever expressed outside it was boxing roy jones jr. and that was just a passing idea of his, hardly worth dumping his mma career over

Machida/Silva fight wont happen, i am pretty confident on this because both fighters are champs and can therefore ignore anything Dana says and they are best friends who say they will NEVER EVER fight and god only knows what would happen if it did, an unstoppable force hitting an immovable object

Lastly although I think Dan Henderson is an amazing fighter he just simply doesnt have the right style to defeat Silva, thats the difficulty with a guy like Silva is that his style neutralized virtually all fighters
Demian Maia would have a great chance if he could get it to the ground but enless he intends on clinching with silva which would result in him being unconcious silva wont go to the ground with him and maia doesnt have the skills to bring him down without going unconcious in the process
Nate Marquardt another great fighter but again not the right style to defeat silva
they need an elusive striker whos confident on the ground and has a great range and good control of distance- one with skills similiar to those of akihiro Gono's and Bj penns however such a fighter does not exist in the middleweight division and no fighter wants to put on weight to fight a man who cuts 40 pounds before every fight so even someone like GSP would probably be beaten simply because silva will weigh 30 pounds more come fight time.

8/13/09   |  

JKB37 wrote:
Silva is probably right about Henderson.  His real challenges are in the lightweight division...  Rampage and Rashad Evans have the ability to take him down, and they can bang with him.  Machida is a fight that has to happen..  I'd even like to see him get in there Shogun..  There is no one right now, in my opinion, that can seriously challenge for his title.. 

hell yea that  what i want 2 see.....

8/12/09   |   49ermama

Raider_Dave wrote:
That's not really fair to say that Henderson wouldn't be a challenge, as Henderson won the first round with his wrestling in their last fight.  It was when he decided to stand and exchange with Silva in the 2nd round that got him into trouble, just as was the case with Forrest Griffin.  I honestly don't think that there is anyone that could be Anderson Silva, as he is the hardest person in the sport of MMA to punch, which makes it very hard for any prominent striker to even have a chance.

The only fight that would make sense is Silva/Machida and it doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon. And with only 3 fights remaining on his contract and an uncertain future in the sport, Anderson Silva can basically dictate the majority of the conditions from here on out.  I'm not sure what his contract says specifically, but the ball would seem to be in his court at the moment.

....and to raider_dave up there....it isn't that it is "not fair" it is that is the pure truth and you cannot fight that or even come close to sayin it is unfair......it is rare,,,,,,very rare that silva loses his matches. he just does not.

8/12/09   |   49ermama

Last time they fought, Silva choked out Henderson late in the 2nd round. Now, his manager is saying that Dan Henderson isn't really a legitimate title contender yet, and the better match would be against the winner of Nate Marquardt and Demian Maia. Personally, I would like to see Henderson fight the winner of that fight, and then the winner could fight Silva. Anderson has already beated Henderson and Marquardt, and although Maia has been dominant and is undefeated in the UFC, he's a lot like Thales Leites, who was beaten by Silva in a 5-round snoozefest, thanks to Leites' complete lack of aggression.


okay first of alll there is a typo there    lol


okay now onto the article at hand..... i predicted in one of the other polls that silva would mangle forrest and i said not that i wanted him to but i know this guy's power. he is like a freeeeeeeeakin freight train and his opponents a mere volkswagon. i agree wholeheartedly that henderson is a poor opponent for this fighter. silva is matchless  in the ring. he mangles anyone he gets his feet and hands on. i just say he should wait it out and a contender will come along soon enough......

8/12/09   |   Raider_Dave   |   47 respect

That's not really fair to say that Henderson wouldn't be a challenge, as Henderson won the first round with his wrestling in their last fight.  It was when he decided to stand and exchange with Silva in the 2nd round that got him into trouble, just as was the case with Forrest Griffin.  I honestly don't think that there is anyone that could be Anderson Silva, as he is the hardest person in the sport of MMA to punch, which makes it very hard for any prominent striker to even have a chance.

The only fight that would make sense is Silva/Machida and it doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon. And with only 3 fights remaining on his contract and an uncertain future in the sport, Anderson Silva can basically dictate the majority of the conditions from here on out.  I'm not sure what his contract says specifically, but the ball would seem to be in his court at the moment.

8/12/09   |   drn0iswatr   |   731 respect

from my limited knowledge - I completely agree that Silva is in a good position right now. He seems like he has his head on straight.

8/12/09   |   Scott   |   54649 respect

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I hear Rick Porcello has got some good wrestling moves and takedowns.  Maybe Dana White can swing a Porcello/Silva match for December when the Detroit Tigers arent playing baseball 

8/12/09   |   JKB37   |   2409 respect

Silva is probably right about Henderson.  His real challenges are in the lightweight division...  Rampage and Rashad Evans have the ability to take him down, and they can bang with him.  Machida is a fight that has to happen..  I'd even like to see him get in there Shogun..  There is no one right now, in my opinion, that can seriously challenge for his title..