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7/24/07
Are the Falcons Better Off With A Pocket QB?
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It's time for the Falcons to move on. There's very little chance Michael Vick plays for the organization again. Especially now that the local media has finally turned against him:
He’s gone. Whether that means for the season or forever in the NFL is debatable, but this isn’t: No way Michael Vick ever plays again for the Falcons.
It's over. Or is it a beginning?

I've long been a big Vick apologist to all those who claim he's the most overrated QB in the league. He's a better pocket QB than he gets credit, and you can't diminish the value of his feet, but perhaps it's best the Bobby Petrino Era begins with the type of QB he's excelled at coaching.

Petrino has a history of maximizing his quarterback talents. Next year's 1st pick in the NFL Draft will be Brian Brohm, who will likely give most of the credit to his former Louisville coach. Joey Harrington isn't putting fear into any NFL defensive backfield (how about that Schaub trade! Brilliant!), but he seems like Petrino type of guy.

The offensive line is likely to perform better when knowing exactly what's to happen on each play. Many of Vick's scrambles often resulted in holding calls. Warrick Dunn and Jerrious Norwood will likely improve on their impressive output from a year ago with consistent carries.

The Falcons may not be as flashy this season, but I'm finally starting to see the other side. A field position offense with a pocket passer may what Atlanta has need all along. Do you think Atlanta will improve without Vick this season? (Assuming he's gone
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7/24/07
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I've thought that Harrington could get it done with talent around him.  Unfortunatly, the Falcons WR's still blow, the OL is still average, and Warrick Dunn is aging fast.


7/24/07
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Heck yeah they will be better without Vick!!!! If they get a QB that can actually Throw the ball.

7/24/07
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Dodge#9 wrote:
Heck yeah they will be better without Vick!!!! If they get a QB that can actually Throw the ball.
lol!!

7/24/07
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My niece can throw better than Vick....

 


7/24/07
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What has Vick done to convince you that he will help them win?

Answer: Nothing.

Most Falcons fans are too caught up in the hype, and can't see the truth. Michael Vick is nothing but wasted potential. He has never passed over 3000 yards, or over 20 TD's in a season. People love to bring up the fact that he's a rushing threat as well, but that's not needed on a team if they have decent RB's, which the Falcons had with Duckett and Dunn.

Something to keep in mind: If you add his passing and rushing stats together, whose stats are most comparable?

Eli Manning.

Congrats, Falcons fans. You've got yourselves a fancy version of Eli Manning. Overpaid, overrated, and overhyped, living off a reputation that means nothing in the NFL.

7/24/07
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The Falcons owner just talked, and he said that the team was planning on giving Vick a 4 game suspension, but Goddell apprently told them NOT to until he's finished reviewing the case.  Very interestig...

7/24/07
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MrNFL wrote:
The Falcons owner just talked, and he said that the team was planning on giving Vick a 4 game suspension, but Goddell apprently told them NOT to until he's finished reviewing the case.  Very interestig...
Supposedly Blank isn't happy with how Goodell is treating this case either.  I can see his point, if I were an owner I'd like to be allowed to punish my own players (assuming I was going to).

7/24/07
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Actually, Michael Vick doesn't win games.  Neither does Warrick Dunn, or Keith Brooking.  The FALCONS win games, not a single player. 

7/24/07
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Actually, it's not that simple at all.  You're saying that without him, they are a 0-16 team every year, which is CERTAINLY not true. 

7/24/07
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I think they CAN win games without him.  What you're saying is that they are better with him than without, and I understand your point.


7/24/07
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Pat wrote:
What has Vick done to convince you that he will help them win?

Answer: Nothing.

Most Falcons fans are too caught up in the hype, and can't see the truth. Michael Vick is nothing but wasted potential. He has never passed over 3000 yards, or over 20 TD's in a season. People love to bring up the fact that he's a rushing threat as well, but that's not needed on a team if they have decent RB's, which the Falcons had with Duckett and Dunn.

Something to keep in mind: If you add his passing and rushing stats together, whose stats are most comparable?

Eli Manning.

Congrats, Falcons fans. You've got yourselves a fancy version of Eli Manning. Overpaid, overrated, and overhyped, living off a reputation that means nothing in the NFL.
He did lead the Falcons to the NFC Championship Game a few short years ago. You quickly forget that fact in all your arguments. That's precisely what he's done to convince Falcons fans and I believe it's justified. The potential is was there.

7/24/07
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Well...every game they play this year will likely BE without him...

7/24/07
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I agree ... I was mostly referring to his potential in the past tense because I don't think he'll be playing any time soon.

7/24/07
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
He did lead the Falcons to the NFC Championship Game a few short years ago. You quickly forget that fact in all your arguments. That's precisely what he's done to convince Falcons fans and I believe it's justified. The potential is was there.
He has also played ONE full season in his career, shown poor judgment, poor field vision, and he was absolutely horrible in that game that you mentioned.

Michael Vick is not a QB that will lead any team to the promised land.

7/24/07
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Pat wrote:
He has also played ONE full season in his career, shown poor judgment, poor field vision, and he was absolutely horrible in that game that you mentioned.

Michael Vick is not a QB that will lead any team to the promised land.
You asked for a good reason why he has convinced Falcons fans he can win and I gave it to you.

7/24/07
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Actually, I think with OR without Vick, they aren't going to win more than 6 games.  I think either way they are screwed, because the team as a whole isn't that good.  Even with Vick, they still aren't a playoff team, and with Harrington, they aren't either. With any QB they aren't, because the team is that flawed.

7/24/07
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MrNFL wrote:
Actually, I think with OR without Vick, they aren't going to win more than 6 games.  I think either way they are screwed, because the team as a whole isn't that good.  Even with Vick, they still aren't a playoff team, and with Harrington, they aren't either. With any QB they aren't, because the team is that flawed.
Their best bet:

Tank this season, and draft Brian Brohm. Him and Petrino back together is a match made in heaven.

7/24/07
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Pat wrote:
Their best bet:

Tank this season, and draft Brian Brohm. Him and Petrino back together is a match made in heaven.
The thing is, I don't think they'll be bad enough to get him, because I expect Brohm to go top 3. 

7/24/07
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I agree. But if they really do only win 4 like their fan here is saying, they have a great shot.

7/24/07
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Do you really think that'd change WITH Vick?

7/24/07
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Wow...give me whatever this guy's smoking...it would be WORTH popping on a drug test, if I could go crazy like this.

There are 3, maybe 4 QB's in the entire league who would cost their team 4 games if they went down.

Michael Vick is NOT one of them.

7/24/07
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(Edited by MrNFL)
Well you have the right to your opinion.  But Michael Vick isn't THAT good.   I don't think there is any player that gives 5 win/loss swing like that.

7/25/07
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Looks like the WR are actually going to have the chance to catch some balls this year

7/31/07
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I am a big Harrington fan and would love to see him do something with the Falcons, however he needs a team that can perform.  Maybe with Petrino the Falcons will show the fans they have not seen in years.  Go Joey:)


8/1/07
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Well Hell yes were better off with a pocket QB,  Were better off with any QB.  Go Harrington, show em how its done......  There is something wrong when a QB has more rushing yards than the RB.  Dont ya think?


 
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