Please sign in to complete your action
 
DONE!
Cheer and debate with
6,000,000+ fans!
My Team:
Charlotte
My Team:
Michael
My Team:
Britney
7/24/07
Are the Falcons Better Off With A Pocket QB?
It's time for the Falcons to move on. There's very little chance Michael Vick plays for the organization again. Especially now that the local media has finally turned against him:
He’s gone. Whether that means for the season or forever in the NFL is debatable, but this isn’t: No way Michael Vick ever plays again for the Falcons.
It's over. Or is it a beginning?

I've long been a big Vick apologist to all those who claim he's the most overrated QB in the league. He's a better pocket QB than he gets credit, and you can't diminish the value of his feet, but perhaps it's best the Bobby Petrino Era begins with the type of QB he's excelled at coaching.

Petrino has a history of maximizing his quarterback talents. Next year's 1st pick in the NFL Draft will be Brian Brohm, who will likely give most of the credit to his former Louisville coach. Joey Harrington isn't putting fear into any NFL defensive backfield (how about that Schaub trade! Brilliant!), but he seems like Petrino type of guy.

The offensive line is likely to perform better when knowing exactly what's to happen on each play. Many of Vick's scrambles often resulted in holding calls. Warrick Dunn and Jerrious Norwood will likely improve on their impressive output from a year ago with consistent carries.

The Falcons may not be as flashy this season, but I'm finally starting to see the other side. A field position offense with a pocket passer may what Atlanta has need all along. Do you think Atlanta will improve without Vick this season? (Assuming he's gone
36 comments
Vote!
Comment!
Your votes determine top comment
Top comment earns 300 Points!
711 days ago
1
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0

I've thought that Harrington could get it done with talent around him.  Unfortunatly, the Falcons WR's still blow, the OL is still average, and Warrick Dunn is aging fast.

 
711 days ago
1
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
Heck yeah they will be better without Vick!!!! If they get a QB that can actually Throw the ball.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
Dodge#9 wrote:
Heck yeah they will be better without Vick!!!! If they get a QB that can actually Throw the ball.
lol!!
 
711 days ago
1
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0

My niece can throw better than Vick....

 

 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
falcons will not be better without vick... and without vick, im willing to bet that after this year Alge Crumpler leaves Atlanta if Vick leaves
What has Vick done to convince you that he will help them win?

Answer: Nothing.

Most Falcons fans are too caught up in the hype, and can't see the truth. Michael Vick is nothing but wasted potential. He has never passed over 3000 yards, or over 20 TD's in a season. People love to bring up the fact that he's a rushing threat as well, but that's not needed on a team if they have decent RB's, which the Falcons had with Duckett and Dunn.

Something to keep in mind: If you add his passing and rushing stats together, whose stats are most comparable?

Eli Manning.

Congrats, Falcons fans. You've got yourselves a fancy version of Eli Manning. Overpaid, overrated, and overhyped, living off a reputation that means nothing in the NFL.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
The Falcons owner just talked, and he said that the team was planning on giving Vick a 4 game suspension, but Goddell apprently told them NOT to until he's finished reviewing the case.  Very interestig...
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
MrNFL wrote:
The Falcons owner just talked, and he said that the team was planning on giving Vick a 4 game suspension, but Goddell apprently told them NOT to until he's finished reviewing the case.  Very interestig...
Supposedly Blank isn't happy with how Goodell is treating this case either.  I can see his point, if I were an owner I'd like to be allowed to punish my own players (assuming I was going to).
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
he has won games for the falcons, and he has taken them deep in the playoffs... two things that Eli Manning has yet to do.  So I find that comparison to be quite ridiculous.

what has Vick done to convince ME that he will help them win?  hmmm, he has won games.  In the past 4 years I have watched every falcon game with the exception of 2, and what I see is Michael Vick doing the best job he can with the talent he is surrounded.  You said earlier that Joey Harrington wont win 9 games because the team just sucks... wouldnt that be true for Vick to?  yeah, i think it would... so i think its unfair to say that he hasnt done the best job he could possibly do with THAT team
Actually, Michael Vick doesn't win games.  Neither does Warrick Dunn, or Keith Brooking.  The FALCONS win games, not a single player. 
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
with him behind center, they win games... with out him behind center they dont!

there, is that better?
Actually, it's not that simple at all.  You're saying that without him, they are a 0-16 team every year, which is CERTAINLY not true. 
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
ok... they win more games with him behind center then they do with him NOT behind center?

does that cover it? or should i be more technical?

I think they CAN win games without him.  What you're saying is that they are better with him than without, and I understand your point.

 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
Pat wrote:
What has Vick done to convince you that he will help them win?

Answer: Nothing.

Most Falcons fans are too caught up in the hype, and can't see the truth. Michael Vick is nothing but wasted potential. He has never passed over 3000 yards, or over 20 TD's in a season. People love to bring up the fact that he's a rushing threat as well, but that's not needed on a team if they have decent RB's, which the Falcons had with Duckett and Dunn.

Something to keep in mind: If you add his passing and rushing stats together, whose stats are most comparable?

Eli Manning.

Congrats, Falcons fans. You've got yourselves a fancy version of Eli Manning. Overpaid, overrated, and overhyped, living off a reputation that means nothing in the NFL.
He did lead the Falcons to the NFC Championship Game a few short years ago. You quickly forget that fact in all your arguments. That's precisely what he's done to convince Falcons fans and I believe it's justified. The potential is was there.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
when they do win games without him with the team that they have right now, I will admit i was wrong
Well...every game they play this year will likely BE without him...
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
the potential hasnt left... the team has just under performed.  and im not saying that he hasnt either, because there has been times where he could have played better, but his potential is still there and I really think he was going to have a good season this year
I agree ... I was mostly referring to his potential in the past tense because I don't think he'll be playing any time soon.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
CriticalFanatic wrote:
He did lead the Falcons to the NFC Championship Game a few short years ago. You quickly forget that fact in all your arguments. That's precisely what he's done to convince Falcons fans and I believe it's justified. The potential is was there.
He has also played ONE full season in his career, shown poor judgment, poor field vision, and he was absolutely horrible in that game that you mentioned.

Michael Vick is not a QB that will lead any team to the promised land.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
Pat wrote:
He has also played ONE full season in his career, shown poor judgment, poor field vision, and he was absolutely horrible in that game that you mentioned.

Michael Vick is not a QB that will lead any team to the promised land.
You asked for a good reason why he has convinced Falcons fans he can win and I gave it to you.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
and we will see how many games they win, im guessing about 4 if he vick does not play at all this season
Actually, I think with OR without Vick, they aren't going to win more than 6 games.  I think either way they are screwed, because the team as a whole isn't that good.  Even with Vick, they still aren't a playoff team, and with Harrington, they aren't either. With any QB they aren't, because the team is that flawed.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
MrNFL wrote:
Actually, I think with OR without Vick, they aren't going to win more than 6 games.  I think either way they are screwed, because the team as a whole isn't that good.  Even with Vick, they still aren't a playoff team, and with Harrington, they aren't either. With any QB they aren't, because the team is that flawed.
Their best bet:

Tank this season, and draft Brian Brohm. Him and Petrino back together is a match made in heaven.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
Pat wrote:
Their best bet:

Tank this season, and draft Brian Brohm. Him and Petrino back together is a match made in heaven.
The thing is, I don't think they'll be bad enough to get him, because I expect Brohm to go top 3. 
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
I agree. But if they really do only win 4 like their fan here is saying, they have a great shot.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
falcons will have a top 3 pick
Do you really think that'd change WITH Vick?
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
yes, I honestly do... with Vick I think they have a small chance at the playoffs.  if not, they go 8-8 atleast
Wow...give me whatever this guy's smoking...it would be WORTH popping on a drug test, if I could go crazy like this.

There are 3, maybe 4 QB's in the entire league who would cost their team 4 games if they went down.

Michael Vick is NOT one of them.
 
711 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
(Edited 07/24/07 5:46PM by MrNFL)
McNabbNumbaOne wrote:
yes, I honestly do... with Vick I think they have a small chance at the playoffs.  if not, they go 8-8 atleast
Well you have the right to your opinion.  But Michael Vick isn't THAT good.   I don't think there is any player that gives 5 win/loss swing like that.
 
710 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0
Looks like the WR are actually going to have the chance to catch some balls this year
 
704 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0

I am a big Harrington fan and would love to see him do something with the Falcons, however he needs a team that can perform.  Maybe with Petrino the Falcons will show the fans they have not seen in years.  Go Joey:)

 
703 days ago
0
VOTE:
 
+0
 
+0
 
+0
 
-0

Well Hell yes were better off with a pocket QB,  Were better off with any QB.  Go Harrington, show em how its done......  There is something wrong when a QB has more rushing yards than the RB.  Dont ya think?

 
 
Preview
HOTTEST ARTICLES
NFL GEAR
Loading...
NFL TICKETS
Loading...
MEET OUR FANS
Tonique
Myka
 more
12,798,192+
ANSWER TODAY'S POLL
 more
PLAY NEVER-ENDING TRIVIA
Cork
Foam
Plastic
Rubber
 more

TAKE A QUIZ
 more

PREDICT THE SCORE
NFL
NBA
NHL
NCAABB
Soccer
 more
2,555,658+
Just now!
jainanand4u joined the Cricket league Fans of India.
Just now!
jainanand4u joined the Cricket league CricketFans.
Just now!
princess_of_sorrow51 joined the Other Racing league Fans of Aussie V8 Super Cars.
Just now!
princess_of_sorrow51 joined the Cricket league Fans of South Africa.
Just now!
princess_of_sorrow51 joined the Cricket league CricketFans.
Just now!
princess_of_sorrow51 joined the NCAAF league BrownFans(FB).
Just now!
princess_of_sorrow51 joined the Cricket league Fans of South Africa.
Just now!
princess_of_sorrow51 joined the Cricket league CricketFans.
Just now!
princess_of_sorrow51 joined the NCAAF league BrownFans(FB).
Just now!
 

Join Today
About FanIQ
Terms of Use
Privacy Policy
DMCA Policy
Contact Us
Report A Bug
Help