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As promised since the start of the playoffs, here's my Yankees rant

11/9/09 in MLB   |   YankeeDudeL   |   15 respect

"Start spreading the news...."

First, it's been a long, exhausting year.  You must be tired.  You look a little parched.  Thirsty?  Let me pour you a tall, heaping glass of that Haterade you enjoy so much.  Drink it up!  Ah, it's refreshing isn't it?  Oh, look.  It has Derek Jeter's image on it.  Is he pointing to his thumb?  That character.

Ok, let's go back to early October and address only a snippet of those declarative statements that were made.  We have the "worst shortstop in MLB history".  Yeah, that guy sucks.  Then, there's that guy on steriods.  Ok, decent year, but he never comes up big in the playoffs.  And his pitching counterpart, cause he'll never win in a big spot.  Don't forget that washed up pitcher that actually admitted to steriod use.  Or that really old dude that used to be pretty lights out, but doesn't have it anymore.  And then we have a couple new guys that would only be "true Yankees" if they win.  Not to mention that catcher that was never that good anyway.  I don't even know who that Asian guy is.  Last, but not least, there's that manager who has no idea what he's doing.  3 man rotation throughout the playoffs?  That'll never work.  

At least there's all that money that they spend that never returns a profit.  All that money they spend on players hasn't produced a ring in a century (or 9 years, but that's splitting hairs).  How ridiculous is that new stadium?  $2,000 a game seats?  They'll never fill that consistently.  Anyway, they'll never maintain that cause nobody wants to watch them on TV.  Especially if they're playing another East Coast team.

It's really time you face the truth.  Jeter is one of the greatest players this game has ever seen.  I've never seen such an amazing player get so much hate simply b/c he's wearing a certain uniform.  No one ever denies that Peyton and Brady are the best QBs in football, yet Jeter has more rings on his hands then both of them combined.  Not only that, he always comes through in the post-season, when it counts most.

Take everything you've ever said about A-Rod and C.C. and throw it and sit that baby on a shelf and let it get dusty.  C.C. never pitched a bad game, but he did have to go against an amazing Cliff Lee.  There's being in the zone and there's being the High Lord and Master of that zone, and Lee was the latter.  But C.C. did his part, and they rode that horse as long as they needed to.  And the Phillies were so scared of A-Rod all they could do was throw at him.  Oh yes, they were scared.  And so are you!

The pitching woes of the past exist no longer.  The starters gave them long, quality innings, and the middle relief did their job of bridging the gap to get the Sandman on the hill.  And they were used intelligently.  Girardi knew the matchups he wanted, and he got them when the time came, regardless of what we wanted to see.  The man made a terrible team a winner and now he made a good team a champion.

Ok, I'll go there.  The Yankees have a lot of money.  A $h!tload of money.  And ya know what?  They USE it!  Look at the Marlins.  They win a championship, and they tear the team apart the next year.  Then they some how get there again, and what do they do?  They tear it apart again!  And when that team has a bunch of young, no name players, they fire the manager of the year (thanks, btw).  The Yankees do not do this.  The Steinbrenners have always given us a chance to win.  That puts people in the seats.  That generates the money.  You can hate MLB for not having a cap, or you can hate your owners for not giving a $h!t.  

And what's your greatest, end-all argument?  What have the Yankees done lately?  Sure, they were great at one time, but what have they done recently?  Won in 2000?  Pennants in '01 and '03?  Playoffs in all but one of those years and 15 of the last 16 AL East division championships?  No, not good enough.  

Ok, so maybe this is one of my bigger jack@$$ moves on this site.  Maybe you think less of me than before.  But I let every hater have their say all postseason, only stating that I'd state my case in the first week of November (ok, so this is the second week, but I can't tell you how hectic things have been).  There is no NFL Championship/SuperBowl argument.  There is no "well the competition is so much better now argument".  There is only the greatest team in all of North American sports and there is nothing you can do or say about, but cause the Evil Empire has Stuck back and the Sports Galaxy is ours yet again.  So I'll leave you w/ the 6 most beautiful words in all of sports, "The Yankees win!  Theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Yankees win!!!!!
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11/29/09   |   ML31   |   3658 respect

nortonsfury wrote:
Yes I realize it. I was simply just looking to reply to the shortest post. I have nothing to say about the Giants. I think they have a very good young team. That said, I was just looking to reply to the author of the article. How did I know you would reply. :)

Actually, the Giants have good young pitching, but are very lacking in lumber.  They have but one good young hitter in that line up.  And he wouldn't even bee a #3 hitter on most teams lineups.  Apart from him...  No one. 

11/29/09   |   ML31   |   3658 respect

Ooooooh kay.

Whatever chief. 


Whatever.

11/12/09   |   nortonsfury   |   130 respect

nortonsfury wrote:
 Couldn't agree with you more.  The Derek Jeter hate around here is unfounded and completely ridiculous.  Not only do they attack his defense which I fully admit isn't the greatest but also isn't the worst but they attack his offense which speaks for itself.  At this moment in time he has more hits at his age then Pete Rose had at the same age.  I'm not saying that he will break Rose's record but anytime you are mentioned in the same breath as Pete Rose I'd say you have had a good career with the bat.

Yes I realize it. I was simply just looking to reply to the shortest post. I have nothing to say about the Giants. I think they have a very good young team. That said, I was just looking to reply to the author of the article. How did I know you would reply. :)

11/12/09   |   ML31   |   3658 respect

nortonsfury wrote:
 Couldn't agree with you more.  The Derek Jeter hate around here is unfounded and completely ridiculous.  Not only do they attack his defense which I fully admit isn't the greatest but also isn't the worst but they attack his offense which speaks for itself.  At this moment in time he has more hits at his age then Pete Rose had at the same age.  I'm not saying that he will break Rose's record but anytime you are mentioned in the same breath as Pete Rose I'd say you have had a good career with the bat.

Do you realize that your reply has nothing to do with the post you replied to?  The post you replied to is a slam on the Giants and has nothing to do with Jeter.

11/12/09   |   nortonsfury   |   130 respect

YankeeDudeL wrote:
Sooner than any SF Giants player.

 Couldn't agree with you more.  The Derek Jeter hate around here is unfounded and completely ridiculous.  Not only do they attack his defense which I fully admit isn't the greatest but also isn't the worst but they attack his offense which speaks for itself.  At this moment in time he has more hits at his age then Pete Rose had at the same age.  I'm not saying that he will break Rose's record but anytime you are mentioned in the same breath as Pete Rose I'd say you have had a good career with the bat.

11/12/09   |   ML31   |   3658 respect

I understand. 

Carry on.

11/12/09   |   ML31   |   3658 respect

Huh????  What are you high on?  You are making no sense.

11/10/09   |   ML31   |   3658 respect

YankeeDudeL wrote:
Sooner than any SF Giants player.

You never know....

They don't spend like the Yankees (this year started with them $14 million behind what the White Sox spend...) But you never know....  Lightning can strike once.

11/10/09   |   YankeeDudeL   |   15 respect

ML31 wrote:
Enjoy it.  And with Yankee money I'm sure you have many more coming along.

BTW...  when do you get YOUR ring?

Sooner than any SF Giants player.

11/10/09   |   ML31   |   3658 respect

YankeeDudeL wrote:
Every single one of those comments were made on here this post-season.  They're not direct quotes, but I didn't take that many liberties.  You don't have to go that far back on the MLB Hotlinks before things start creeping up.

Defending the money spent may be "old blind garbage", but so is the flip side of that coin.  There really isn't a fresh take on that argument no matter how long a paragraph can be written.

But the Yankees don't "truly want respect".  They want rings.  And we got a shiny new one coming.  And that's really all I care about. 

Enjoy it.  And with Yankee money I'm sure you have many more coming along.

BTW...  when do you get YOUR ring?

11/10/09   |   YankeeDudeL   |   15 respect

ML31 wrote:
I don't know where you saw all the early comments you address.  Many of them make no sense.  But, your rant about the money is just the same old blind garbage I have heard from every Yankee fan willing to address it.

You admit it yourself.  The Yankees spend a boatload of money.  And we both know why.  They have it.  That team spends all that money on players and STILL turns a profit.  If they wanted to, they could spend MORE.  But, you reference the Marlins.  First, they needed the use of the MLB assistance program just to make the post season both times they got in.  At least the Yankees don't need THAT.  Of course, the money helps.  But the reason the first team got dismantled right away was because the owner was bleeding money.  Even WITH winning the world series (thanks to Bud Selig, BTW) they couldn't spend that kind of money and make money in the end.  So of course the owner dumps the players.  The Yankees would too if they didn't have the money and you know it.  Then later, the new owners know they cannot keep any good players around for long because they will eventually demand to get a big paycheck the team simply cannot afford.  So they let them go or trade them for prospects.  Not because the owner does not have the will to win.  But because the owner doesn't have the money to pay those guys.  The Yankees don't have tons of money because people are always buying seats.  A lot of teams have that who don't have Yankee money.  They have money to pay those guys because they play in the largest media market in the USA.  Their local TV gives them millions and millions in return ONLY because of geography.  The Royals tried a Royals version of YES.  Couldn't make it work.  So you see, all teams can't just do what the Yankees do.  The Snakes went out early this decade and bought a World Series just like the Yankees do.  What happened?  The team couldn't meet payroll the following year and had to get MLB to co-sign a bank loan because no bank was willing to lend money to the team by itself!  That owner promptly got out of the baseball business.  
This is what is commonly called and unfair advantage.  And that is why people hate the Yankees.  Not because they win a lot.  But because they do what more than 2/3 of the Majors can't.  Pay players huge salaries.

If the Yankees truly want respect, what they need to do is win WITHOUT spending $120 million more than median MLB payroll.  They do that (more than once, BTW), only then will people look at the Yankees and think, "Damn...  What a class organization."  Until then, everyone knows that the Yankees don't win because they have a great front office who evaluates talent well.  We all know that they win because they have lots and lots and lots of money to throw at every good player who comes along.

Every single one of those comments were made on here this post-season.  They're not direct quotes, but I didn't take that many liberties.  You don't have to go that far back on the MLB Hotlinks before things start creeping up.

Defending the money spent may be "old blind garbage", but so is the flip side of that coin.  There really isn't a fresh take on that argument no matter how long a paragraph can be written.

But the Yankees don't "truly want respect".  They want rings.  And we got a shiny new one coming.  And that's really all I care about. 

11/9/09   |   ML31   |   3658 respect

icfeet wrote:
Excellent article from a Yankees fan of the Horace Clarke-Rich McKinney-Celerino Sanchez-Gene Michael-Danny Cater era.  Yes, it's been 9 years....but I ask anyone who uses that "buy pennants" hate....if YOU were producing a movie, wouldn't you want to put the BEST product out there?  If you were manufacturing something, wopuldn't you want it to be the BEST???  GO YANKEES!!!!!  ( tried to give you a respect....but even though I gave out ONE today...it says I'm "fresh out".  Here is one of these....

Often the best movies don't cost $200 million.  Look at the most expensive movie this past summer.  Transformers was a big budget steaming pile of poop.
Also, a budget tends to force people to find new and innovative ways to accomplish things.

But then, we are not talking about consumer electronics or cars.  We are talking about a sports league.  In case you don't get it, sports leagues tend to do best when all the teams start off on even footing.  The Yankees, with all that money, start the marathon almost 7 miles ahead of all the participants and 13 miles ahead of 1/2. 
It's not about looking for the best made car.  It is about a fair competition.

11/9/09   |   ML31   |   3658 respect

I don't know where you saw all the early comments you address.  Many of them make no sense.  But, your rant about the money is just the same old blind garbage I have heard from every Yankee fan willing to address it.

You admit it yourself.  The Yankees spend a boatload of money.  And we both know why.  They have it.  That team spends all that money on players and STILL turns a profit.  If they wanted to, they could spend MORE.  But, you reference the Marlins.  First, they needed the use of the MLB assistance program just to make the post season both times they got in.  At least the Yankees don't need THAT.  Of course, the money helps.  But the reason the first team got dismantled right away was because the owner was bleeding money.  Even WITH winning the world series (thanks to Bud Selig, BTW) they couldn't spend that kind of money and make money in the end.  So of course the owner dumps the players.  The Yankees would too if they didn't have the money and you know it.  Then later, the new owners know they cannot keep any good players around for long because they will eventually demand to get a big paycheck the team simply cannot afford.  So they let them go or trade them for prospects.  Not because the owner does not have the will to win.  But because the owner doesn't have the money to pay those guys.  The Yankees don't have tons of money because people are always buying seats.  A lot of teams have that who don't have Yankee money.  They have money to pay those guys because they play in the largest media market in the USA.  Their local TV gives them millions and millions in return ONLY because of geography.  The Royals tried a Royals version of YES.  Couldn't make it work.  So you see, all teams can't just do what the Yankees do.  The Snakes went out early this decade and bought a World Series just like the Yankees do.  What happened?  The team couldn't meet payroll the following year and had to get MLB to co-sign a bank loan because no bank was willing to lend money to the team by itself!  That owner promptly got out of the baseball business.  
This is what is commonly called and unfair advantage.  And that is why people hate the Yankees.  Not because they win a lot.  But because they do what more than 2/3 of the Majors can't.  Pay players huge salaries.

If the Yankees truly want respect, what they need to do is win WITHOUT spending $120 million more than median MLB payroll.  They do that (more than once, BTW), only then will people look at the Yankees and think, "Damn...  What a class organization."  Until then, everyone knows that the Yankees don't win because they have a great front office who evaluates talent well.  We all know that they win because they have lots and lots and lots of money to throw at every good player who comes along.

11/9/09   |   icfeet   |   21809 respect

(Edited by icfeet)

Excellent article from a Yankees fan of the Horace Clarke-Rich McKinney-Celerino Sanchez-Gene Michael-Danny Cater era.  Yes, it's been 9 years....but I ask anyone who uses that "buy pennants" hate....if YOU were producing a movie, wouldn't you want to put the BEST product out there?  If you were manufacturing something, wopuldn't you want it to be the BEST???  GO YANKEES!!!!!  ( tried to give you a respect....but even though I gave out ONE today...it says I'm "fresh out".  Here is one of these....