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3/2/08
Aston Villa Fans Are Ballsy, Somewhat Lacking In Class
Whenever I read about bad fan behavior here in the United States, I always like to remind myself that at least its pretty tame (except when Ron Artest is involved) in the grand scheme of things. After all, over in the UK they have fans that make their Philly counterparts look like Eagle Scouts.

The most recent example of British fans taking things just a tad too far involves the horrible left ankle injury that Arsenal player Eduardo suffered last week. At Arsenal's stadium on Saturday, a group of opposing Aston Villa fans broke out into song, and of course made fun of the injured striker.

What's that sticking out of his sock,
Is it his ankle, is it his ankle

Eduardo Wwooooo
He had some silky skills,
Now he walks like heather mills wwooooo wwooooo

he used to run down the left
he used to run down the right
That boy Eduardo will run in circles for life

I'll at least give them bonus points for the Heather Mills line (which is admittedly funny) and for doing this at Arsenal's stadium. And I'll give them further credit for getting ejected and starting a brawl outside the stadium. But what may be the best thing about this entire episode is that karma has an interesting way of coming around.

Moments after Villa's fans did their stupid ass cheer in the first half, their own center-half Curtis Davies was stretchered off with a ruptured Achilles tendon following an innocuous-looking play.

Sounds about right. Stay classy, Aston Villa.
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3/2/08
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What comes around goes around.

Recover quickly eduardo. Croatia and the gunners need you.

3/3/08
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Look I am no fan of the Gunners, but seriously Villa fans. Look you have not won anything major since the Carling Cup in 1996 so your bitterness and anger for club management and Birmingham City alright.

3/3/08
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I am a Gunner Fan and I find it sad any fan would make comments about an injured player.  I don't hold this against AVFC as the fans of a team do not speak on behalf of the team -

3/3/08
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First of all I call Bullshit on this entire story. Eduardo was injured playing Birmingham. Curtis Davies was injured a couple weeks later when Villa played Arsenal at the Emirites. So why are we upset with Villa fans for fighting and singing at a game they were not at ? Get your facts strait and write a story that isnt fiiled with conecture and spurious facts and then we can have a rational discussion.

3/4/08
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I am a Villa fan and was at the game. It was great fun. Good old fashioned knockabout stuff. The Arsenal fans really don't have a sense of humour and are almost as pompous as their manager (genius that he is). This is exactly the kind of incident that gives English football its unique atmosphere. Long may it continue. A word of warning for Gunners fans. Now everyone knows how easy it is to upset you, expect a lot lot more of it. Up the Villa !!

3/4/08
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I was listening to the call-in shows on Saturday and (That is the great thing about having a Sirius radio you get this and live matches) I was this hearing from both Villa and Arsenal fans report the same thing.

3/6/08
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YNWA wrote:
First of all I call Bullshit on this entire story. Eduardo was injured playing Birmingham. Curtis Davies was injured a couple weeks later when Villa played Arsenal at the Emirites. So why are we upset with Villa fans for fighting and singing at a game they were not at ? Get your facts strait and write a story that isnt fiiled with conecture and spurious facts and then we can have a rational discussion.
I don't think you read the story. The point of which is that the Villa fans were mocking Eduardos injury, no one said Villa injured him. 

3/6/08
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Villan wrote:
I am a Villa fan and was at the game. It was great fun. Good old fashioned knockabout stuff. The Arsenal fans really don't have a sense of humour and are almost as pompous as their manager (genius that he is). This is exactly the kind of incident that gives English football its unique atmosphere. Long may it continue. A word of warning for Gunners fans. Now everyone knows how easy it is to upset you, expect a lot lot more of it. Up the Villa !!
I think the Gooner sense of humour flew out the window with the possible career ending injury of a 25 year old  footballer.  Regardless of his colours, thats sad by any account.

If the Villians are so interested in creating clever chants - try coming up with a chant that will earn you a spot in the top four. 


Main Entry:
pomp·ous Listen to the pronunciation of pompous
Pronunciation:
\ˈpäm-pəs\
Function:
adjective
Date:
15th century
1 : excessively elevated or ornate <pompous rhetoric> 2 : having or exhibiting self-importance : arrogant <a pompous politician> 3 : relating to or suggestive of pomp : magnificent
pomp·ous·ly adverb
pomp·ous·ness noun

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I believe you have misused the word pompous.  Arsenal FC and its fans have enjoyed enough success to support their elevated opinion of themselves and the club they support.


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3/6/08
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To Minorthreat:

 

What a load of sanctimonious dross you spout. In case you hadn't noticed Eduardo is expected to make a full recovery and everyone, except maybe you, knows it. We sang that song because it is funny and to wind up the Arsenal fans in the stadium. We don't care what foreigners think. Let them worry about their own town and their own sports. EVERY other fan in England thought the songs were hilarious, as did a good few real Arsenal footbal fans.

 

Of course this has got nothing to do with YOU, sat in Chicago as you are. How many times have you seen them play? Not many, I bet. Some fan you are choosing to live thousands of miles away. As for the Arsenals impressive history, good luck to them and all their real supporters, but, as I said, what's that got to do with a stateside glory hunter of your ilk.

 

Do you pretend to support Arsenal every season or do you wait to see who tops the Premier League before choosing your team? I bet you've got a couple of Chelsea shirt gathering dust somewhere. No doubt Man Utd enjoyed your support in the past too.

 

I see Arsenal play twice a season, every season, which is probably two matches more than you manage. I guess that makes me and 3000 other Villa fans who joined into the Eduardo song bigger Gunners fans than you will ever be.

 

Stick to baseball, son, where someone, somewhere, might possibly give a hoot about your statistically piety. Here in the home of football we offer you only contempt!!!

 


3/10/08
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Villan wrote:

To Minorthreat:

 

What a load of sanctimonious dross you spout. In case you hadn't noticed Eduardo is expected to make a full recovery and everyone, except maybe you, knows it. We sang that song because it is funny and to wind up the Arsenal fans in the stadium. We don't care what foreigners think. Let them worry about their own town and their own sports. EVERY other fan in England thought the songs were hilarious, as did a good few real Arsenal footbal fans.

 

Of course this has got nothing to do with YOU, sat in Chicago as you are. How many times have you seen them play? Not many, I bet. Some fan you are choosing to live thousands of miles away. As for the Arsenals impressive history, good luck to them and all their real supporters, but, as I said, what's that got to do with a stateside glory hunter of your ilk.

 

Do you pretend to support Arsenal every season or do you wait to see who tops the Premier League before choosing your team? I bet you've got a couple of Chelsea shirt gathering dust somewhere. No doubt Man Utd enjoyed your support in the past too.

 

I see Arsenal play twice a season, every season, which is probably two matches more than you manage. I guess that makes me and 3000 other Villa fans who joined into the Eduardo song bigger Gunners fans than you will ever be.

 

Stick to baseball, son, where someone, somewhere, might possibly give a hoot about your statistically piety. Here in the home of football we offer you only contempt!!!

 

omg, you hurt my feelings.

1/31/10
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minorthreat wrote:
omg, you hurt my feelings.

Since when is attending matches the only way to be a fan? 

As a Villa fan who lives in Fort Worth, TX. I may never have the opportunity to watch the Villans play in person.  I admit that I may very well be a lesser fan than you, but not because of the geographical and financial limitations that keep me from physically attending matches.  I submit that, if anything, my removal from Birmingham and the football culture thereof may very well make my fanhood even more genuine because of the obstacles it presents.  I have to seek out Villa news.  I have to research to find out what random hole-in-the-wall sports bar will be broadcasting the match this week.  I doubt anyone in England has any such lack of accessibility.

Mocking an injured player is a horrible demonstration of what your sport purports to represent.  If I thought this instance was characteristic of Villa or its fans, I would never have been a Villa supporter in the first place.  Innocent and humorous as your intentions were, this song and the lack of sportsmanship it represents reflects poorly on villa fans everywhere.  Even those of us 3000 miles away.

For the record,  Villa is the only EPL team I have ever supported.  You won't find any chelski jerseys in my closet, and I don't care if anyone gives a hoot about my support for Aston Villa.  I love watching them play.

Your fervor is admirable, but suppliment your pride with a measure of dignity.

 


1/31/10
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I go watching premier league games every week, and I hear worse than this week in week out. Racist chanting, homophobic chanting and just general insults but no-one bats an eye-lid most of the time-this is just the one time a story like this has filtered through over the pond...

I do not condone this, I am just saying it happens and unfortunately it is fairly widespread. By no means is it all of us, but quite a lot of people partake in this kind of chanting. One chant about Arsenal player Sol Campbell suggests he should hang himself because he's allegedly gay. Another makes fun of Ashley Cole because he allegedly had an affair with another man. There is a song about Steven Gerrard which describes how his baby is not his and of course the Eduardo ankle chant and to be honest I could go on for hours detailing insulting chants towards players and managers. Football is full of crude chants and unneccessatry abuse, but seriously I hear worse than this every week so I think it is very unfair to blame just the Aston Villa chants as it happens across the country...it's not pretty but sadly it's true...

2/5/10
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burnatur wrote:

Since when is attending matches the only way to be a fan? 

As a Villa fan who lives in Fort Worth, TX. I may never have the opportunity to watch the Villans play in person.  I admit that I may very well be a lesser fan than you, but not because of the geographical and financial limitations that keep me from physically attending matches.  I submit that, if anything, my removal from Birmingham and the football culture thereof may very well make my fanhood even more genuine because of the obstacles it presents.  I have to seek out Villa news.  I have to research to find out what random hole-in-the-wall sports bar will be broadcasting the match this week.  I doubt anyone in England has any such lack of accessibility.

Mocking an injured player is a horrible demonstration of what your sport purports to represent.  If I thought this instance was characteristic of Villa or its fans, I would never have been a Villa supporter in the first place.  Innocent and humorous as your intentions were, this song and the lack of sportsmanship it represents reflects poorly on villa fans everywhere.  Even those of us 3000 miles away.

For the record,  Villa is the only EPL team I have ever supported.  You won't find any chelski jerseys in my closet, and I don't care if anyone gives a hoot about my support for Aston Villa.  I love watching them play.

Your fervor is admirable, but suppliment your pride with a measure of dignity.

 

Hey Burnatur- I am a another Villa fan living in the USA. I became a Villa fan way back in 1980-1981 when Jimmy Rimmer was the gaolie, and thehad a striker named Wythe,(Peter)?, and a young lighting fast scoring machine named Gary Shaw. I follow the Villa as best I can, and I hope before I die, (it's on my bucket list to get back to Villa Park). 
I wasn't, (obviviously) at the Emirates to see the Villa and Arsenal do battle, but one of the things I loved about English Football is the clever singing in the stands. (We Americans just are not as funny/ clever as the English are when it comes to that stuff). Yes, it probably was in bad taste, but when I saw Vill play Arsenel play at Villa Park in 1980- the fighting was all over the place. I almost got punched up at New Street Station, and for what? Oh well, guess that happens when you support a team, political party, etc.
I just hope Villa finishes higher than 6th or 7th year after year.

Cheers to you, and Go Villa. 

 
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