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12/30/08
Bill Cowher Head Coach Of The Jets Still A Possibility
The Jets Will Do Whatever It Takes To Get Bill Cowher, And That Might Be A Huge Mistake
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I think we now know why the Jets were in such a rush to fire Eric Mangini at the end of this season. It's because the Jets are focusing in on Bill Cowher, and they seem to be willing to do "whatever is necessary" to make him their head coach.

Now, you may be saying to yourself, wait, didn't Cowher already tell the Jets "thanks, but no thanks"? Yes, he did, because Cowher says he wants total control of a team, and if he doesn't get it this year, he can easily wait until 2010. Plus, earlier today the Jets said they planned on bringing back general manager Mike Tannenbaum. And since Cowher has made it clear he wants to hire his own GM, that was it.

Until this afternoon, that is. The Jets have quickly decided to rearrange their entire upper level of management simply for Cowher in order to bring him in. The Jets official's response indicates they're willing to let Cowher replace current general manager Mike Tannenbaum with his own candidate. A Jets source also said Tannenbaum says he's willing to adjust his position to accommodate Cowher.

Personally, while I think Cowher is a fairly good coach, I don't think he's worth this much trouble at all. People seem to forget that before he won that Super Bowl in 2006, Cowher was best known for losing playoff games he should have won. That lone Super Bowl win seemingly erased years of playoff ineptitude from everyone's minds.

There's also the issue of total control here. Coaches with total control don't usually do well. Mike Holmgren was given total control when he came to Seattle in 1999. For four years he had total control and made the playoffs once. Starting in 2003, he relinquished his duties to focus solely on coaching and proceeded to lead Seattle to the playoffs four times and to a Super Bowl. 

Butch Davis also had complete control in Cleveland, same with Saban in Miami, and we all know how those situations turned out.

Bill Parcells is one of the few coaches with complete control to have had some success. He had complete control in New England and to a degree in Dallas (no one ever has complete control with Jerry Jones around), but even he didn't win a Super Bowl in either location. And he couldn't get the Cowboys to win a single playoff game.

In other words, there isn't a good track record for these guys. They become arrogant, want everything done their way, and it often ends badly - primarily because they're good at coaching, not running entire teams from the bottom up. It'll end exactly the same way for Cowher. He isn't Parcells and he isn't even that great of a coach. He's good, but not that good.

But hey, if the Jets want to make this decision, more power to them. I mean, it's not like they've made any horribly bad decisions of late. Oh yeah, except for letting Chad Pennington go and bringing in Brett Favre. Yes, clearly the Jets know exactly what they're doing.

Source: Cowher and Jets still to talk [ESPN]
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12/30/08
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If a guy wants to have complete control over a team, Detroit is the place to be.  There's nothing there.  He can build the team completely the way he wants it.  Seriously, if someone actually believes in their abilities as a team builder, the Lions are the place to be.  Plus, you'll look like a genius if you even manage to go 4-12 next year.

12/30/08
1
Cowher would be smart to walk away. This team's roster and it's cap space situation are a Superfund waiting to happen.

12/30/08
0
Boski93 wrote:
Cowher would be smart to walk away. This team's roster and it's cap space situation are a Superfund waiting to happen.
yeah i agree. plus, Favre I doubt will come back (not that if he did it would be any better), and they're not exactly in prime drafting position for a QB. it's not a very good situation in all honesty.

12/30/08
0
He can't do anything more but to make them winners. He will inherit a very good Jets team and show them how to win and finish games they should win. Mangini will get another shot somewhere. His talent pool with The Jets was more than he could coach (see 49ers game).

12/30/08
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uptown7010 wrote:
He can't do anything more but to make them winners. He will inherit a very good Jets team and show them how to win and finish games they should win. Mangini will get another shot somewhere. His talent pool with The Jets was more than he could coach (see 49ers game).
I don't know. Who's going to be the QB?

12/30/08
5
If a guy wants to have complete control over a team, Detroit is the place to be.  There's nothing there.  He can build the team completely the way he wants it.  Seriously, if someone actually believes in their abilities as a team builder, the Lions are the place to be.  Plus, you'll look like a genius if you even manage to go 4-12 next year.

12/30/08
2
100%InjuryRate wrote:
yeah i agree. plus, Favre I doubt will come back (not that if he did it would be any better), and they're not exactly in prime drafting position for a QB. it's not a very good situation in all honesty.
Matt Casell, David Carr, Byron Leftwich just to name a few that could start now for The Jets. Mangini killed Clemens confidence when he brought in Brett Farve. Drafting a quarterback is not an option at this point. The Jets are built to win now BUT only with a good quarterback. They have a good enough offensive line and a desent defense already. Mangini blew it himself for all of those very bad calls he made the last few games. A good head coach knows how to manage the the game and the last few games went right by him.

12/30/08
0
100%InjuryRate wrote:
I don't know. Who's going to be the QB?
I wrote another reply but this will be tost around a while until The Jets get their man

12/30/08
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kantwistaye wrote:
If a guy wants to have complete control over a team, Detroit is the place to be.  There's nothing there.  He can build the team completely the way he wants it.  Seriously, if someone actually believes in their abilities as a team builder, the Lions are the place to be.  Plus, you'll look like a genius if you even manage to go 4-12 next year.
I agree, if you could take the Ford family out of every phase of the Lions organization except signing the checks, that would be a sweet job for a HC/GM!

12/30/08
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uptown7010 wrote:
I wrote another reply but this will be tost around a while until The Jets get their man
Cassel would be a good idea if the Pats don't franchise him. I'm not sold on Leftwich or Carr.

12/30/08
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100%InjuryRate wrote:
I don't know. Who's going to be the QB?
For them to get Carson Palmer out of Cincinati, I'd give up a first round pick. He could use a change of scenary. Alex Smith out of San Fran, Singletary doen't seem to like him and he also can use a change but drafting another quarterback is not an option, at least not right now when they could pull one off of somebody's roster for the right price.

12/30/08
0
The funny thing about this is that the Cleveland Browns' owner contacted Cowher before he even fired Romeo Crennel, and Cowher asked to be taken off the Browns' list of coaching possibilities because he absolutely did not plan on returning to football in 2009. Sad that he didn't even have the decency to tell the Browns outright that he didn't want the job.

On another note, why couldn't the Jets win with a rookie quarterback? Look a Flacco--here's a late-first-round pick with a good O-line, a solid running game, and a good defense, and he's thrived because he doesn't have to carry the load. A rookie with the Jets wouldn't have to win games for them, he would just have to not throw 9 picks in 5 games like Brett Favre did.

12/30/08
0
I agree and I think the Jets Owner is at fault for most of the team's problems.

12/30/08
1
uptown7010 wrote:
For them to get Carson Palmer out of Cincinati, I'd give up a first round pick. He could use a change of scenary. Alex Smith out of San Fran, Singletary doen't seem to like him and he also can use a change but drafting another quarterback is not an option, at least not right now when they could pull one off of somebody's roster for the right price.
They could get Alex Smith for a 7th round draft choice & a box of athletic tape, I bet !!!

I think the combo coach / GM is a role that very, very few people can do....and one that I think they'd have to have been in those capacities prior.     Coaches are normally ex-players, not GM's....it's a completely different mindset.      He should word it into his contract as to what 'control' he may have regarding personnel decisions, but let the contracts & negotiating for the GM's / lawyers.

Back to the Jets & their QB situation, I agree they need to try to get someone to help them win sooner rather than later.     Possibles off the top of my head include:

- Matt Cassel (he may be their #1 choice, for a whole variety of reasons.....if NE lets him go)
- Byron Leftwich
- Derek Anderson
- Matt Hasselbeck   (I bet he'd be made available by Seattle for a reasonable price.......)
- Rex Grossman   (go ahead & laugh, but how many backup QB's have led a team to the SB before ?)
- Sage Rosenfels   (just tell him not to scramble !)
- Jon Kitna  (take a chance he's healthy ?    Detroit needs draft choices......)
- Brian Griese
- Billy Volek
- David Carr
- JP Losman

I realize it's not the most impressive list, but I think these guys could be had for a somewhat-reasonable price.....as opposed to guys like Matt Leinhart, Carson Palmer, Kerry Collins, and Jeff Garcia.

How about these hairbrain scenarios ?    <no, I don't think these will happen, but it's fun to throw 'em out there !>

1)    Trade Favre & a pick(s)/player(s) to Dallas for Romo ?     Each could start over, so to speak.....
2)    When does Michael Vick get released ?
3)    Maybe, instead of firing Mangini, they should have traded him to St. Louis for Marc Bulger !!
(hey....Chuck Tanner was traded between the A's & Pirates !)
4)    Joe Willie is off the sauce now (much to Suzy Kolber's chagrin)....maybe he could suit back up again ?!?!

12/30/08
1
uptown7010 wrote:
For them to get Carson Palmer out of Cincinati, I'd give up a first round pick. He could use a change of scenary. Alex Smith out of San Fran, Singletary doen't seem to like him and he also can use a change but drafting another quarterback is not an option, at least not right now when they could pull one off of somebody's roster for the right price.
They could get Alex Smith for a 7th round draft choice & a box of athletic tape, I bet !!!

I think the combo coach / GM is a role that very, very few people can do....and one that I think they'd have to have been in those capacities prior.     Coaches are normally ex-players, not GM's....it's a completely different mindset.      He should word it into his contract as to what 'control' he may have regarding personnel decisions, but let the contracts & negotiating for the GM's / lawyers.

Back to the Jets & their QB situation, I agree they need to try to get someone to help them win sooner rather than later.     Possibles off the top of my head include:

- Matt Cassel (he may be their #1 choice, for a whole variety of reasons.....if NE lets him go)
- Byron Leftwich
- Derek Anderson
- Matt Hasselbeck   (I bet he'd be made available by Seattle for a reasonable price.......)
- Rex Grossman   (go ahead & laugh, but how many backup QB's have led a team to the SB before ?)
- Sage Rosenfels   (just tell him not to scramble !)
- Jon Kitna  (take a chance he's healthy ?    Detroit needs draft choices......)
- Brian Griese
- Billy Volek
- David Carr
- JP Losman

I realize it's not the most impressive list, but I think these guys could be had for a somewhat-reasonable price.....as opposed to guys like Matt Leinhart, Carson Palmer, Kerry Collins, and Jeff Garcia.

How about these hairbrain scenarios ?    <no, I don't think these will happen, but it's fun to throw 'em out there !>

1)    Trade Favre & a pick(s)/player(s) to Dallas for Romo ?     Each could start over, so to speak.....
2)    When does Michael Vick get released ?
3)    Maybe, instead of firing Mangini, they should have traded him to St. Louis for Marc Bulger !!
(hey....Chuck Tanner was traded between the A's & Pirates !)
4)    Joe Willie is off the sauce now (much to Suzy Kolber's chagrin)....maybe he could suit back up again ?!?!

12/30/08
0
Keeter wrote:
They could get Alex Smith for a 7th round draft choice & a box of athletic tape, I bet !!!

I think the combo coach / GM is a role that very, very few people can do....and one that I think they'd have to have been in those capacities prior.     Coaches are normally ex-players, not GM's....it's a completely different mindset.      He should word it into his contract as to what 'control' he may have regarding personnel decisions, but let the contracts & negotiating for the GM's / lawyers.

Back to the Jets & their QB situation, I agree they need to try to get someone to help them win sooner rather than later.     Possibles off the top of my head include:

- Matt Cassel (he may be their #1 choice, for a whole variety of reasons.....if NE lets him go)
- Byron Leftwich
- Derek Anderson
- Matt Hasselbeck   (I bet he'd be made available by Seattle for a reasonable price.......)
- Rex Grossman   (go ahead & laugh, but how many backup QB's have led a team to the SB before ?)
- Sage Rosenfels   (just tell him not to scramble !)
- Jon Kitna  (take a chance he's healthy ?    Detroit needs draft choices......)
- Brian Griese
- Billy Volek
- David Carr
- JP Losman

I realize it's not the most impressive list, but I think these guys could be had for a somewhat-reasonable price.....as opposed to guys like Matt Leinhart, Carson Palmer, Kerry Collins, and Jeff Garcia.

How about these hairbrain scenarios ?    <no, I don't think these will happen, but it's fun to throw 'em out there !>

1)    Trade Favre & a pick(s)/player(s) to Dallas for Romo ?     Each could start over, so to speak.....
2)    When does Michael Vick get released ?
3)    Maybe, instead of firing Mangini, they should have traded him to St. Louis for Marc Bulger !!
(hey....Chuck Tanner was traded between the A's & Pirates !)
4)    Joe Willie is off the sauce now (much to Suzy Kolber's chagrin)....maybe he could suit back up again ?!?!
THANK YOU MY FRIEND.  YOU WERE READING MY MIND, I JUST COULDN'T SAY IT ALL AT ONCE. I WAS AT WORK.

12/30/08
0
Thanks......I just didn't mean to say it twice !!!

 
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