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5/16/07
Blog reaction to Suns Suspensions


You got my brief, but to the point take on these suspension last night -- I understand the rule. Rules are up for interpretation, clearly. Time to start teaching our kids to not stand up for teammates. This was a stupid decision.

What does the blogosphere have to say about the NBA's decisions?

Bright Side of the Sun calls out David Stern's hypocrisy ...

David Stern can say anything he wants about liking how the game is opening up and becoming more free.  But he's proved here that he doesn't mean it.


It's a travesty that the Spurs continue to get away with what can only be considered thug basketball and no one in the upper echelon of the NBA cares.


The Suns can still win the game tomorrow.  They'll have the crowd behind them and they'll be out to get revenge.  But it's going to be a fight - literally.  Don't think for a minute that these suspensions will tone things down.  If anything, it's shown Greg Popovich and his band of thugs that they really CAN get away with whatever they want.

The Rising Suns titles this post - "Thuggery Wins, Fans Lose" with very little else to say as it's not needed.

Pounding the Rock (quickly becoming a favorite) asked what ever happened to caring about the fans ... (read his whole post via the link. It's good)

Whatever happened to "give the fans what they want?"  Or "the customer is always right?"


The NBA, thanks to an iron-clad interpretation of a rule nobody has ever liked, has appeased... who?  Who's happy about this?  The Suns players, fans and coaches are understandably "disgusted."  As far as I know the Spurs have made no official comment on the situation.  They're not dumb enough to come out and say they agree with the decision and anything voiced to the contrary won't be believed anyway.

YAYsports! supports the NBA ruling ...

It doesn’t matter if Stoudemire and Diaw weren’t coming to fight or getting ready to throw punches. If any of you have ever been in a fight situation, then you know that having extra hands standing by to support you fires things up just a little more.


All of a sudden three guys “got your back” and you can get a little more shovey, a little more pushy, a little more mouthy, and you’re that much closer to a fight breaking out.

It escalates things, and that’s what the “spirit of the law” is for. It’s supposed to prevent the fight from happening in the first place, not punish people for getting in a fight. It worked - those guys scurried back to the bench, and it stopped things from escalating further and getting out of hand.


The NBA did the right thing in this situation - argue all you want about how it makes the series worse (and it does), it’s not fair to the Suns because they didn’t start it (and they didn’t), and that the rule needs to be revisited (it might), but there’s no doubt that Amare and Boris running out there (and Amare was running aggressively) was going to push things to another level.

Like many others, I'm not ruling the Suns out tonight. Motivation is a powerful tool. Combine that with what will be an unsafe for children US Airways Center and I think the Suns still pull this off while giving David Stern, Stu Jackson and Robert Horry a big middle finger. (Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)
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The NBA had a chance to set a new precendent to solidify the rule for future problems, but failed. The rule is you can't leave the immediate vicinity of the bench during an altercation. The could have very easily made it clear that since never player actually got close to the altercation and neither player came close to being involved that they were therefore still in the area of their bench and therefore no suspensions. This would alleviate the problem of players getting suspended for coming close to but not actually getting involved and wouldn't reward the team who causes the problem.

Also at stake was that Stu Jackson clarified that earlier in the game Duncan absolutely should not have been on the court, but he also ruled that situation was not an altercation so no suspensions. Why can't the NBA just clearly write in the rulebooks the word fight since that is what they want to prevent. Their ruling on this game, while an attempt to stick to the letter of the rules, created a grey area at the same time as to what an altercation is. Just say fight. Neither was a fight, so set the precedent now with no suspensions so this problem won't arise again.


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That's the worst part about it -- that we're now forced to check the dictionary for a definition of "altercation" to try and figure out the sense in this.  If there wasn't the appearance of a possible fight, then why else was Duncan on the floor?  If he did nothing wrong, then why doesn't Jackson say that instead of confirming that he absolutely should not have been out there?  Just an utterly hypocritical, cowardly, gutless ruling. 

Anyone who reads Simmons knows how often he talks about professional teams needing to have a VP of Common Sense, someone to step in and say"Wait a minute here, let's be smart and not outthink ourselves."  Obviously, there is a need for this position at the NBA league office as well.

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David Stern and Stu Jackson obviously have no idea how to run a business. The number one rule in business is take care of the customers or people who pay your salaries. They have taken the best series of the playoffs and have ruined it. Mr. Stern you broke a rule and thats taking a game away from the fans. You started the year being a retard with that new ball and end the year by hurting your product on the grandest of stages. If I were you Mr. Stern I would take a look at all the rules you have missed to enforce with all these cheap shots players are taking against one another and not getting fined or suspended. Kobe Bryant gets suspended twice for flaring his elbows at another player but Baron Davis clocks Fisher and nothing happens (just one example). Congratulations Mr. Stern on being the stupidest commissioner there is.

5/16/07
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Amazin698607 wrote:
David Stern and Stu Jackson obviously have no idea how to run a business. The number one rule in business is take care of the customers or people who pay your salaries. They have taken the best series of the playoffs and have ruined it. Mr. Stern you broke a rule and thats taking a game away from the fans. You started the year being a retard with that new ball and end the year by hurting your product on the grandest of stages. If I were you Mr. Stern I would take a look at all the rules you have missed to enforce with all these cheap shots players are taking against one another and not getting fined or suspended. Kobe Bryant gets suspended twice for flaring his elbows at another player but Baron Davis clocks Fisher and nothing happens (just one example). Congratulations Mr. Stern on being the stupidest commissioner there is.
Well I'm upset with the ruling here, but the first sentence in your post couldn't be further from the truth.

The NBA has it's issues, but it's been a pretty marketable business. Is it where it was 10 years ago? Probably not. But I do think they made some good business decisions. We jump all over the "thugness" after the Melo-Knicks fight. So it's somewhat hypocritical for his to totally slam the NBA when they try to prevent fights. Of course, they interpreted the rule incorrectly, but I see the other side here.

I have a suspicion that this Game 5 tonight will be the most watched of the postseason.

5/16/07
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The cheapest tickets on the Suns' TicketExchange are going for $200 each right now. That's for nosebleed seats.

 

I will be watching this game at the bar and getting drunk win or lose.


5/16/07
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I can't wait for tonight's game.  I think this will be by far the most intense game we've seen in years.  Bad blood, useless bench players playing (for the Suns) who won't be needed in Game 6, and the NBA's apparent approval of violence is going to equal one hell of a mess.  There's also the fact that whoever wins this game most likely will win the series.

5/16/07
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Its gonna be bloody tonight, thats all I know.

 
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