Boise State Is just As Legitimate A Champion As Alabama

The Bowl Championship Series Is A Joke. Declare Your National Champion Here.

1/8/10 in NCAAF   |   kantwistaye   |   4201 respect

First, let's send out a congratulations to the Crimson Tide of Alabama.  They finished undefeated and in doing so beat another undefeated team in a Bowl Championship Series game. Very impressive of them.  Many would probably argue that they are the best team this year.  Unfortunately, they weren't in the "Title Game".

Congrats are off to the Boise State Broncos.  They went undefeated and in doing so beat fellow unbeaten (up to that time) Texas Christian University.  They are the "National Champions".  Simply by finishing out their season undefeated, they will be given a crystal football, which will represent them as the national champions of college football.  Their undefeated season, which features wins over not one but two conference champions, is one for the record books.  They certainly will go down in the history books as one of the best teams of all time.

Its pretty amazing how something as simple as laundry effects who decides is our national champion.

Its truly amazing how such a simple thing as conference affiliation can have such a huge effect on who is decided as the national champion.  Honestly, either Alabama or Boise State could legitimately be called national champions.  Unfortunately the previous two paragraphs will likely be used (in some variation or another) to describe Alabama as some type of fictional national champion.  But really, what more do we know than we did in December?

In early December, we had five undefeated teams. Now, we have two. Did the Bowl Championship Series really solve anything? Obviously not, as we still have two teams who have never lost and have quite impressive resumes which are topped off with BCS wins.  This is why college football is a joke and is not a legitimate sport.  We have no national champion.  I'm sorry, but Alabama fans have no right to celebrate a national championship tonight.  Can they legitimately believe they are the best in the country? No, not until they beat the Boise State Broncos.  Until then, the 2009-2010 has no national champion and should be celebrated as such (much like last year when many teams had season just as, or more (in Utah's case) impressive seasons than Florida).  Let's stop  pretending the BCS is legitimate because its not.  Its convoluted and quite frankly means just as much as your or my opinion which is why I am declaring Boise State as the Michael K*** National Champions and I hope you also declare you national champion because it also is just as legitimate as the joke of the system we currently have.
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3/23/10   |   bhamsown   |   129 respect

Well my team won the National Championship. Great!! However, I'm like the rest of you. Some type of playoff system has been always needed. Yet it hasn't happened yet. Until it does we will be stuck saying "what could,and should have been." The "what ifs" won't and don't make a Chamionship team. Does anyone other than a Boise State fan think they had a chance against Alabama.......NOT. Just continue to enjoy college football like I do and complain to those that need to hear!

1/8/10   |   StephenCSDI   |   19 respect

I will not debate with you there as the better team won last night, as I just wanted a healthy Colt McCoy.
A healthy Colt could have been a big HELPER, but from last night's evidence on the field that trophy belongs in Tuscaloosa.

1/8/10   |   StephenCSDI   |   19 respect

I concur

1/8/10   |   garyspeed   |   1 respect

phillydeac4life wrote:
Wins against the final Top 25

Bama - #2 Texas.. #3 Florida, #10 VTech, #17 LSU. #20 Ole Miss (Wins over other teams that went to Bowl Games Kentucky, Arkansas, Auburn, South Carolina, Tenesse)

Boise St. - #6 TCU, #11 Orgeorn (Wins over other Bowl Teams Frenso St., Idaho, Nevada)

That is 5 ranked teams, 3 which are in the Top 10, and 5 team that went to Bowl Games.  All together that is 10 of their 14 wins came from quality teams

Boise St. beat 2 ranked teams, one which was in a Bowl Game, and 3 other teams that went to Bowl Games.

Next, the SEC is hands down the best conference in College Football top to bottom, 10 0f their 12 teams went to Bowl Games, where as in the WAC more than half of the teams in their conference finsihed below .500

When choosing a National Champion you look at their body of work, Alabama's blows Boise St.'s out of the water.  The arguement of sayin well if they played head to head, is means nothing because it never happened.

Finally, I really hope you wrote this article to get people talking and having a debate, because if you actually believe what you wrote then I seriously question your knowledge of College Football and Sports.

Expert on college football no, But I do beleive there's not a conference that even comes close to the SEC when it comes to football. Like any conference we have week teams, but overall most other conferences dont want to schedule with the SEC. I have no idea how the sceduling is done. But I beleive if given a chance most conferences back out of a schedule simply because they know it's a loosing situtation.

1/8/10   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

(Edited by MarkTheShark)

I will throw one more monkey wrench on: I think Boise beating TCU was an upset.

Boise State out-prepared TCU. TCU's defense boasts a very good players at each level: DE Hughes will be drafted in the third round or earlier, LB Washington is a stud that will also go in the top 3 rounds, a physical burner who will go in the second tier of LB's in Aprils draft. Two good Cornerbacks round out the list(Priest and Sanders).

My point being, coaching is starting to become the number one factor in college football. Recruiting is becoming more even. The difference makers are the Urban Meyers, the Nick Sabans, the Jim Tressels, the Pete Carrolls, and their all-star staffs.

1/8/10   |   StephenCSDI   |   19 respect

I concur

1/8/10   |   phillydeac4life   |   20 respect

Wins against the final Top 25

Bama - #2 Texas.. #3 Florida, #10 VTech, #17 LSU. #20 Ole Miss (Wins over other teams that went to Bowl Games Kentucky, Arkansas, Auburn, South Carolina, Tenesse)

Boise St. - #6 TCU, #11 Orgeorn (Wins over other Bowl Teams Frenso St., Idaho, Nevada)

That is 5 ranked teams, 3 which are in the Top 10, and 5 team that went to Bowl Games.  All together that is 10 of their 14 wins came from quality teams

Boise St. beat 2 ranked teams, one which was in a Bowl Game, and 3 other teams that went to Bowl Games.

Next, the SEC is hands down the best conference in College Football top to bottom, 10 0f their 12 teams went to Bowl Games, where as in the WAC more than half of the teams in their conference finsihed below .500

When choosing a National Champion you look at their body of work, Alabama's blows Boise St.'s out of the water.  The arguement of sayin well if they played head to head, is means nothing because it never happened.

Finally, I really hope you wrote this article to get people talking and having a debate, because if you actually believe what you wrote then I seriously question your knowledge of College Football and Sports.

1/8/10   |   garyspeed   |   1 respect

1st of all congrat to Boise State, you don't go undefeated in any conference without having a good team. I agree something is wrong with the system and something should be done about it but till it is this is what we have. Alabama won the BCS Championship it's just that simple. Look at how many SEC teams were in bowl games this year and how many won. 10 teams from the SEC, 6 winners from the SEC. No other conference had that many teams in bowl games. It well know this argument happens ever year since the beginning of the BCS started.Boise State got ripped off from the AP poll by being undefeated they should be a lot higher than they are but because of there status as being from a smaller conference they are the victom. TCU, Cinn All had good seasons, but they fell to stronger teams. I do not beleive Boise State could win over a winning SEC team. They are just that strong. The SEC teams that did fall in the bowl games were the weaker teams with a so-so season. Alabama won the title and so deserve to be called the Champions

1/8/10   |   StephenCSDI   |   19 respect

Would be a nice contest but Boise State does not have the alumni base, history or national market

1/8/10   |   Beaneaters   |   17372 respect

(Edited by Beaneaters)

If the goal is to convince me that there needs to be a playoff system, it's too late. I was convinced of that when BYU won the 1984 National Title after defeating an unranked 6-5 Michigan team 24 to 17. There were at least ten teams who could have beat BYU in a bowl game that year. The system is a joke and until they have a playoff system, any other idea of determining a National Championship is just attempting to make chicken salad out of chicken manure. Roll Tide.

1/8/10   |   phatkat   |   1044 respect

wrote:
I can't agree with you there....  It's convenient to say you couldn't win when their not given the opportunity to play--yet, when such teams are allowed to play they're competitive and / or win.  I get tired of hearing sportscasters say: "who would have thought a team like "......." could beat a powerhouse team like "......."!  Yet the "lesser" conferences are never given the opportunity.  It's the same kind of argument as: "black men aren't smart enough to be quarterbacks", or "soccer is rougher than football because soccer players don't wear pads".

With respect, without opportunity, anything else is just speculation.

kudos to you Norseheathen....nicely put!!!!

1/8/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3292 respect

Beaneaters wrote:
With you on that one, Ed. If Boise State was in the SEC, they would not have even made it to the SEC Championship game. No way.

No, they probably wouldn't, but since when does a good team have to come out of the SEC? That's like saying the Superbowl winner previous seasons has to come out of the NFC East because that had been the best division in the NFL. Or the winner of the NBA Championship MUST come from the Western Conference because the West is always so much better than the East each and every season.

Just because a team is in a weaker division or conference does not mean they are a worse team or are undeserving of winning the Championship.

1/8/10   |   BigTone2475   |   326 respect

Going undefeated in the WAC fails dramatically in comparison to going undefeated in the SEC.

Until I saw the Fiesta Bowl I though TCU had a shot a slim one but a shot at knocking off a "big boy" and winning a NC, but after watching that game and Boise winning basically on gimmick plays in a game that was supposedly between two offensive powerhouses, that was actually a defensive game, IMHO there is no way that Boise or TCU could beat Bama, Texas, or Florida. There is nothing you can say to me that will convince me that Boise's or TCU's Ds are even in the same Ball park as the 3 teams ranked ahead of them.

I will say that Boise deserves the #2 ranking only because they went undefeated.

1/8/10   |   Beaneaters   |   17372 respect

wrote:
It is my opinion and I say I know that. I saw both Teams play multiple games this year, no way in hell does does Boise State go into the SEC and go 14-0. That's my Final Word.

With you on that one, Ed. If Boise State was in the SEC, they would not have even made it to the SEC Championship game. No way.

1/8/10   |   Pat   |   5138 respect

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As far as I am concerned Alabama is the National Champion, they won the game that was called the BCS National Championship game, end of sentence.

Furthermore if any really believes Boise State would beat Alabama, they are just kidding themselves. Most of the Teams involved in the BCS games couldn't even handle the SEC Schedule, and come out unscathed. Like Cincinnati, Georgia Tech, Utah, and Boise State. I could go on but I believe my point was made.

But you don't know that, and there's no way that you can really pretend that you know that. It's all rhetoric. Boise State won every single one of their games... just like Alabama. Regardless of our preconceived notions that a team is superior merely because of the conference they're in, you can't say that you know for a fact that Alabama is better.

1/8/10   |   Boski93   |   375 respect

9 times out of 10 I would be clamoring for a playoff and to see the Boise States of the world have a shot and demand a playoff, but this is that 10th. 

I would like to wish the Crimson Tide congratulations on the BCS title and the BCS system works!

Why am I saying this you ask?  Well I say it  only because Bama dropped some coin in and for the fair city I live in: dailypilot.com/articles/2010/01/06/business/dpt-rosebowl010609.txt

So thank you Crimson Tide, and all hail our BCS Overlords!

1/8/10   |   phatkat   |   1044 respect

StephenCSDI wrote:
Noble idea but half the country does not even know where Boise is located~some rectangular state west of the Mississippi River.

 too dammm funny!  lmaoooooo!

1/8/10   |   StephenCSDI   |   19 respect

Noble idea but half the country does not even know where Boise is located~some rectangular state west of the Mississippi River.

1/8/10   |   phatkat   |   1044 respect

stang9396 wrote:
I truely think this is where they need to do the playoff system. It's the only fair way of deciding who is the National Champion. There were alot of good teams out there and it's to hard for me to decide who really deserves the national championship. If I had to choose I would say Bama because they played more top 25 teams and won, very impressive win over the Gators.

i so agree with stang9396 on this one....we do need some type of playoff system to determine which team is the best of the best!

1/8/10   |   jerryyelverton   |   165 respect

If 2009-10 has no champion, then no year in history has one... every national championship ever won was based on opinion and not head-to-head match-up.

And, every year in history, there have been many who did not agree with the team that got the trophy.

So, take a number, my friend... you're umpteen millionth in the "malcontent" line.
 

1/8/10   |   Diablorain   |   4425 respect

i give props to Alabama...

1/8/10   |   gobigblue1960   |   4802 respect

Congrats to the best team in college football, Boise State.

1/8/10   |   StephenCSDI   |   19 respect

All good points and all is well but multiple undefeated 
clubs should not exist, as an expanded playoff system
then can then claim there is only ONE, legid BCS champion
but I now that has flaws too.

1/8/10   |   stang9396   |   4 respect

I truely think this is where they need to do the playoff system. It's the only fair way of deciding who is the National Champion. There were alot of good teams out there and it's to hard for me to decide who really deserves the national championship. If I had to choose I would say Bama because they played more top 25 teams and won, very impressive win over the Gators.

1/8/10   |   StephenCSDI   |   19 respect

True a joke but a noble effort as the best team in college football won last night and yes Boise State is not of BAMA's division but with this system I still cannot throw rocks at them with their legid claim

1/8/10   |   Bashfulblue   |   7 respect

Then Bosie State brings in as much money Alabama ...they will get a shot at the title

1/8/10   |   ApopCane   |   214 respect

Pat wrote:
Didn't everyone say the same about Boise State against Oklahoma? And Utah against Alabama?

I think if TCU had won, people would be singing a different tune, because everyone thought they were the better team already, coming into the game. When will people realize they're playing the same game the BCS has been playing for years?

Exactly, we will never know who the best team really is, as the champion is decided on paper rather than the field. 

1/8/10   |   Pat   |   5138 respect

MarkTheShark wrote:
Nice teaser of an article, but you're fooling yourself if you think Boise State could beat Alabama, or Texas, or Florida for that matter. That being said, Boise State can say they are Natnl Champions because noone beat them. If they want to print up shirts and hats, more power to them. The more pressure put on the "system" the better. I floated this a coupla weeks ago: Why not gather the 55 non BCS schools and make your own division of 1A ball and crown a champion with a playoff. That would leave the 65 BCS "moneymakers" to determine their own champion and continue to be shown up as illegitimate by yet ANOTHER college football division.

Didn't everyone say the same about Boise State against Oklahoma? And Utah against Alabama?

I think if TCU had won, people would be singing a different tune, because everyone thought they were the better team already, coming into the game. When will people realize they're playing the same game the BCS has been playing for years?

1/8/10   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

Nice teaser of an article, but you're fooling yourself if you think Boise State could beat Alabama, or Texas, or Florida for that matter. That being said, Boise State can say they are Natnl Champions because noone beat them. If they want to print up shirts and hats, more power to them. The more pressure put on the "system" the better. I floated this a coupla weeks ago: Why not gather the 55 non BCS schools and make your own division of 1A ball and crown a champion with a playoff. That would leave the 65 BCS "moneymakers" to determine their own champion and continue to be shown up as illegitimate by yet ANOTHER college football division.

1/8/10   |   StephenCSDI   |   19 respect

I agree with your premise that the BCS is fairly comical with a primary concern on generating revenue,
but Boise State does not have the power, size, strength and athleticism of BAMA.  Quite simply the calabar of schools that the Broncos and Crimson Tide have faced are incompatible.  WAC vs SEC? 
Yes, you article has several valid points, but until a more adequate and comprehensive is established.  I have no problem calling the Alabama Crimson Tide the 2009/10 Champions with a legid rebuttal in Spud country.

1/8/10   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3292 respect

Aceraison wrote:
I saw them kick the crap out of the Gators a couple weeks ago...not sure how Gators even get mentioned in this thread.  Though I'm sure Alabama and Florida would probably kick the tar out of Boise State as well.  I think somebody will get a shot next year.  Boise State is bringing back a ton of starters and if they stay hot they will get a title shot.

Boise is bringing 21 out of 22 starters in fact, if Chris Peterson stays, I have to think Broncos get their shot next year.

If not, well, there's always that Fiesta Bowl to look forward to.

1/8/10   |   Aceraison   |   183 respect

wrote:
Is this question a "before everyone played" or an after everyone played?

If it's before, I still say my Gators, of course(). Of it is after, Boise State , hands down. I mean Congrats to the Tide, I rooted for them. I just really didn't see them do anything all that impressive last night.

I saw them kick the crap out of the Gators a couple weeks ago...not sure how Gators even get mentioned in this thread.  Though I'm sure Alabama and Florida would probably kick the tar out of Boise State as well.  I think somebody will get a shot next year.  Boise State is bringing back a ton of starters and if they stay hot they will get a title shot.