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5/27/08
Boston, Detroit Not Yet Finals Worthy
Celtics And Pistons Continue To Duke It Out For Title Of "JV Champion"


I utterly hate labeling the Eastern Conference as the "JV League" of The Association.  It's trite.  It's clichéd.  It's perhaps a bit unfair.

But more than anything, it's simply true.

There was one point during game three of this predictable finals series of this monstrosity of a conference that I thought to myself the following:

"What in the hell is going on?"

Eloquence aside, I think that's a fair question for anyone to ask of the road that has led Boston and Detroit to their inevitable current locations.  Boston looked like they could have dropped one on the road against the Duke Blue Devils in round one.  The second round offered much of the same, with a side of maddening mediocrity to boot.  Up to the third game of this predictable finals series of this monstrosity of a conference, it looked like the postseason ineptitude of these supposedly indomitable Celtics had finally caught up to them.

But that would imply that Detroit actually had some semblance of, you know, consistency.


Sheed is not happy with my take on his Pistons. The Pistons shared Boston's absent-mindedness for much of their first round series against the awe-inspiring [sic] 40-42 Sixers.  Then something happened at about the midway point of game four -- Detroit remembered that they were actually a very good basketball team able to mutilate sub-.500 basketball teams with the snap of a finger.  What an epiphany that 34-16 third quarter in favor of Deeee-Troit Baaaa-sket-baaaall must have been.  How satisfying it must have been to decimate Philly and the ever-improving Magic by a combined 66 points over their next four games.  How impressive it was to see Chauncey Billups exit midway through the East semis and see the Pistons rediscover the grit that makes them great with the entrance of Rodney Stuckey.

And then the Celtics finally fell at home in game two of this predictable finals series of this monstrosity of a conference.

Finally, the Pistons had shown the East's lacking quality.  Finally, the Pistons had shown themselves to be bonafide contenders.

Wait.  What's that Dr. Jekyll?  Mr. Hyde wants to play?

Could someone explain to me how on God's Green Earth Detroit can go from looking like a complete and rock solid basketball team on the road against the NBA's regular season best to looking like the Miami Heat in a moment's notice?  Game three was one of the all-time infamous displays of egg-laying on record.  The Pistons put up the resistance of the French army in this game.  They displayed the rigidity of balsa wood.

It was completely and undeniably pathetic.

Never mind Detroit's comeback in game four.  Game three told the world all it needed to know -- the Pistons are on and off like a relationship between a rocker and a Hollywood starlet.  If game four did say anything, however, it said that the Celtics remain an immensely feeble-minded team away from home.

Is that going to get the job done against the Lakers?  Los Angeles fields the closest team to Jordan's Bulls we've seen since that unit of legends disbanded last century.  No, Kobe and Odom aren't Michael and Pippen, but they're close enough.  The important facet of this club is the seemingly limitless complement of role players.  Gasol is as solid a third option as there is in the game.  Turiaf's energy is invaluable.  Walton is a jack of all trades that meshes with any four teammates on the court at any single moment in time.  Fisher's moxie is indispensable.  Vujacic and Radmanovic are a drive and dish's dream.  And on and on the list goes.

Then there are the Spurs.  They never go away.  Duncan is almost on Bill Russell terms in regards to being a winner.  Give him Ginobli and Parker on either arm and you have the true "big three" of the NBA.  Like Los Angeles, San Antonio can plug-in complementary pieces at any given point inOh, yeah. He's knows "he got game." time without having to concern themselves with chemistry or cohesiveness.  Much of this is due to Gregg Popovich.  During the series closer against the Hornets, San Antonio found their offense stuck in neutral during the midway point of third quarter.  For many teams with lesser coaches, the offensive ineptitude would sustain itself for a long spell.  With Gregg Popovich, it lasted for all but two minutes.  It was a simple tweak to the system -- a high ball screen.  Parker could drive around the screen and pull-up, drive all the way to the basket and shoot, or drive and kick.  Pop knew Paul couldn't fight through the screen; Pop knew he had to get Paul off of Parker; Pop knew Parker would remain Paul's assignment.  The next three minutes and five seconds saw this -- Finley three on Parker assist, Parker pull-up fifteen footer, Finley three on Parker assist, and Big Shot Bob canned one from deep for good measure.

Bang.  Ballgame over.  New Orleans was in too deep of a hole.

Doc Rivers does not make those on-the-fly adjustments.  And if Larry Brown couldn't out-duel Gregg Popovich, Flip Saunders has his work cut out for him.

At present, the NBA's East v. West is akin to college football's Big Ten v. SEC.  The Big Ten will produce a couple of top ten teams on a yearly basis, get the Midwest's collective hopes up, and then be embarrassed on the big stage by the endless quality and depth of the Southeastern Conference.

What happened when Ohio State played Florida?  What happened when they played LSU?  It won't get that ugly in this year's NBA Finals, but the results are what they are.  Boston is too shaky on the road and their coach is too in over his head.  Detroit is too inconsistent and lacks urgency much too frequently.

These problems aren't shared by Los Angeles, nor are they shared by San Antonio.  For all intents and purpose, Boston and Detroit aren't good enough.

They're still inferior.  They're still junior varsity.  They're still in the Eastern Conference.


[Leastern Conference pic courtesy of Basketbawful]

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5/27/08
2
Not only is he about 8 rings behind, he also has never led his team to back-to-back titles. He should work on that, before people start comparing him to Russell.

5/27/08
0
Neither of these teams would've gotten past the 2nd round of the Western Conference playoffs this year.  That said, its the way it goes.  The AFC killed the NFC for the longest time and finally the NFC is starting to catch up.  It might take the East longer, but eventually they'll catch up to the West.

5/27/08
2
Pat wrote:
Not only is he about 8 rings behind, he also has never led his team to back-to-back titles. He should work on that, before people start comparing him to Russell.
Alright, let's take the quote in context.

"Duncan is almost on Bill Russell terms in regards to being a winner."

Now -- dare I do this -- let's take a quote from Russell's Wikipedia page: "An interesting phenomenon began [during the 1957-1958 season]: Russell was voted the NBA Most Valuable Player, but, strangely, only named to the All-NBA Second Team ... the NBA reasoned that other centers were better all-round players than Russell, but no player was more valuable to his team."

We look at a guy like Amare Stoudemire in complete awe.  We look at Dwight Howard's ferocity and fear for the safety of the opposing five.  We even look at Kevin Garnett's unwavering intensity and wonder how he keeps his head on straight.

These three are better athletes than Duncan.  They can run faster.  They can jump higher.  They can dunk harder.  Howard can block shots better.  Amare can cover all three-dimensions of the court with greater ease.  Garnett is a better defender.

Duncan wins.

I don't want to hear the slightest bit of garbage about how "oh, Duncan plays on a better team."

Jordan played on a better team.  So did Magic.  So did Bird.  So did Isaiah.  So did Russell.  These players were on better teams because these players made their teammates better.  These players had intangible qualities immeasurable by statistical means.

These players were winners.

When Bill Russell entered his first NBA Finals, there were eight teams in the NBA.  Only one had a winning percentage better than .570.  During Russell's last season, there were only 14 teams in the NBA.  Russell's fist seven NBA titles were won in a league of nine teams or fewer, with the Celtics never having to play more than two playoff series to win the title.

It was an entirely different league prior to the merger.  There were greater and more intense rivalries that were seen on-court more often, but in today's NBA, Duncan and his Spurs have to scout and prepare for 31 NBA teams and win four seven game series to win the title.  The fact that Duncan won four rings in a span from 1999-2007 with a team as seemingly nondescript as they come is phenomenal.  He has a very reasonable shot to win a fifth this year.  And he has five good years to go on a team that will stick around like a thorn in the rest of the league's side for some time to come.

He's approaching Russell-like status, thus why I was sure to include the word "almost" in my comparison.  To say that is not to diminish Bill Russell, but to praise Tim Duncan.  And any argument to the contrary doesn't hold an ounce of water.

5/28/08
2
The lakers aren't God's gift to basketball. That all I'm hearing, they're like Jordan teams. The Lakers are a very good team who will have a tough time with  either Boston or Detroit. And how you can say neither of these teams would get pass the 2nd round in the west is plain stupidity. The winner of the title is coming out of the East this year. The lakers have got good draw all the way through the playoffs. They are a great team, but they played a no defense denver team, a good but inexperience Utah team, who big man didn't seem it ok to show, and a team without the guy that is the key to them in Ginobi. Well he plays but he played hurt the whole series. If they play boston, barring an injury they are at one hundred percent for the most part. Detroit have a better bench then them, but Billups is hurt.  Lakers will not win the NBA title.

5/28/08
0
(Edited by TheBigThree)
I take a bit of issue with your last point.  While it's true that merely "winning championships" -- i.e., Bob Horry "winning" seven rings -- is an iffy gauge of a player's greatness, the measure of a player leading his team to a title is altogether different.  It's inarguable that Duncan has mostly "led" his team to victory in their four title runs.  In the three Finals series that were actually competitive ('99, '03, '05), Duncan took home Finals MVP honors.  His three trophies tie for second-most all-time (granted, they only started giving the award out in '69, so had it existed in Russell's day, Duncan would be tied for third all-time, at best).  That certainly counts for something.

5/28/08
0
Didnt the East win the All Star game? I'll take Detroit or Boston over LA.  The team that you should be saying is done is the Spurs.  You say the Pistons have no consistency, yet the Spurs trailed 0-2 the past 2 series and now they're down 3-1 and they've gotten blown out in 5 of their last 6 road games.  You're probably one of those people who said the Celtics had NO SHOT after they lost game 2.

5/28/08
1
As far as Russell goes, its a joke to compare anyone to the man, Russell could have done whatever he wanted on the floor, score 60 no problem, rip 40 boards, no problem, BUT he would have had to sacrifice the most important reasons they play the game CHAMPIONSHIPS, thats all that matterd to Russell winning, nothing else

5/28/08
1
donm454 wrote:
Didnt the East win the All Star game? I'll take Detroit or Boston over LA.  The team that you should be saying is done is the Spurs.  You say the Pistons have no consistency, yet the Spurs trailed 0-2 the past 2 series and now they're down 3-1 and they've gotten blown out in 5 of their last 6 road games.  You're probably one of those people who said the Celtics had NO SHOT after they lost game 2.
The All-Star Game?  Wow.

5/28/08
0

True, but I think, just like many others, that the Celtics treated the regular season like the playoffs and now have no extra gear to go into.  Not to mention the Lakers are a slightly different team now, and the Spurs are always better in the playoffs.


5/28/08
0
It dosen't matter its all about winning, when Wilt had to score in clutch, look at how many times Russell blocked his shot or shut him down in clutch, see here is where you do not understand Russell, he would not get stupid fouls or tire himself out unless he had to he was always 5 steps ahead of Wilt, when he had to stop Wilt he did, and he could have put up 50 on Wilt anytime he wanted but he knew his job was to play defense and get rebounds start the fastbreak, see what people do not know was that Russell & Red were very intelligent people, they always thought 5 steps ahead of everybody

 
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