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5/19/09
Charlie Weis Biography In Notre Dame Media Guide Leaves Out Losing Seasons
According To The Notre Dame Media Guide, Charlie Weis Has Never Been Involved In A Losing Season
Charlie Weis can do no wrong. In fact, he has had a winning record in every season of his career, whether as a coach, coordinator or assistant.

That, of course, isn't true. It's not even remotely close to the truth. Weis led Notre Dame to an abysmal 3-9 record in 2007, was an assistant for the New York Giants in 1992 when they went 6-10 in 1992, was an assistant for the Patriots when they had losing seasons in 1993 and 1995, and was a coordinator for the Pats when they went 5-11 in 2000.

Somehow, though, that doesn't show up in the Notre Dame Media Guide.

Any time that Weis was remotely involved in a winning season, they listed it in the Media Guide. But the losing ones are nowhere to be found.

Why does Notre Dame insist on disregarding the past failures and only focusing on the successes of their coach? Is it because they are trying to concentrate on the positive? Or are they just trying to cover up any blemish on his record, in an attempt to whitewash his career and make them look as good as possible?

Charlie Weis has a stellar overall record as a coach and coordinator. Despite a lot of criticism over the job he has done at Notre Dame, he still has a 29-21 overall record, and has recruited very well, according to many of the recruiting rankings during his era.

This will be his first year played with entirely players that he recruited. He might do well, he might not. But there's no reason for the Irish to try to cover up any failures that he may have had. It's embarrassing and quite frankly, pathetic. Notre Dame needs to shake their feeling that they are above the rest of the country, and treat themselves honestly and with a sense of reality. That's what it will take for them to acheive greatness once again.


Irish leave out losing seasons in bio of Weis [JournalGazette]
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5/19/09
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 here is a copy of the media guide for those keeping score at home - 


5/19/09
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Very original.  It is pretty dumb to leave it out, but is this really that newsworthy?  It certainly is since I've already seen it plastered on 4+ websites.  And people say Notre Dame is no longer relevant.  I will say this much, I'm on the fence with Chuck and this is the make or break year.  The only thing that has kept me a Weis supporter is the great recruiting job he's done.

5/19/09
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He ate it .............that was funny...

If he is such a great recruiter, why has it no shown itself on the field OR in the win column?

I think he is a fat overrated slob and ND will not get back to the glory years until they get rid of him!

5/19/09
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jswol54 wrote:
Very original.  It is pretty dumb to leave it out, but is this really that newsworthy?  It certainly is since I've already seen it plastered on 4+ websites.  And people say Notre Dame is no longer relevant.  I will say this much, I'm on the fence with Chuck and this is the make or break year.  The only thing that has kept me a Weis supporter is the great recruiting job he's done.

You're right, Notre Dame is not relevant, and they haven't been since the early 90's. For all of his alleged "great recruiting" over the past 3-4 years I don't see any results. Jimmy Clausen was supposed to be the savior, LOL. We shall see what they do this year with a full class of his recruits. His 29-21 record is skewed from the Brady Quinn season, who was of couse Ty Willimgham's recruit.


5/19/09
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JImmy Clausen was a bust! i BIG BUST! i remember him coming out of high school to college so much hype and look him now barely getting the snap off!

5/19/09
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at least charlie didn't have to but his team like Pete Carroll did and does , thats why the golden dome never gets a fair break anywhere including home . look at the number of defencive players that have been turned out for the NFL meat grinders from ND. as for the media guide thats just PR and very PR dept. wants to make your school your team your cheerleads look #1

5/19/09
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lierman wrote:
JImmy Clausen was a bust! i BIG BUST! i remember him coming out of high school to college so much hype and look him now barely getting the snap off!
Was a bust? How about STILL IS a bust.

5/19/09
2
It was an "editing accident". They didn't mean it.  I am hoping NBC has an accident this season and show "Rudy" every Saturday instead of showing Notre Dame football.

5/19/09
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SaintDrew wrote:

You're right, Notre Dame is not relevant, and they haven't been since the early 90's. For all of his alleged "great recruiting" over the past 3-4 years I don't see any results. Jimmy Clausen was supposed to be the savior, LOL. We shall see what they do this year with a full class of his recruits. His 29-21 record is skewed from the Brady Quinn season, who was of couse Ty Willimgham's recruit.

They aren't relevant, yet you seem to know a lot about them and have a general disdain towards them.  Thanks for proving my point. 

Remember, bad press is better than no press!

5/19/09
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lierman wrote:
JImmy Clausen was a bust! i BIG BUST! i remember him coming out of high school to college so much hype and look him now barely getting the snap off!
Whoa, whoa!!!  WAS a bust?  I'm sorry, but he's going to be a junior in college.  Remember the strides BQ took from his sophomore to junior years?  Probably not because you were only 12 at the time.  Leave the sports debating to grown folks, young buck!

5/19/09
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jswol54 wrote:
They aren't relevant, yet you seem to know a lot about them and have a general disdain towards them.  Thanks for proving my point. 

Remember, bad press is better than no press!
Notre Dame will always be one of the most polarizing schools in the country. You like them or you hate them. They are like the Yankees and the Cowboys in the media and stories coming out of South Bend will get national exposure. I wouldn't exactly say in that sense that bad press is good, because it's continually very bad press. And you're right, I do have a "general disdain" towards them and I'm very pleased to watch them continue to blow chunks every week.

 
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