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11/17/07
College Football Game Day Thread: "Rivalry Week"
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The WWL has started to embarrass themselves with this "rivalry week" deal. In concept it's great, pick one weekend mid-November when many of the classic rivals play each other: Michigan-Ohio State, USC-UCLA, Oregon-Oregon State, Auburn-Alabama, etc. In execution they've struck out.

Here's your viewing schedule. Those I would deem actual rivalries are in bold. Few and far between.

Ohio State @ Michigan Noon ABC
Northwestern @ Illinois Noon ESPN
UConn @ Syracuse Noon ESPN2
Tulsa @ Army Noon ESPN Classic
Missouri @ Kansas State 12:30 p.m. FSN
Kentucky @ Georgia 12:30 p.m. LFS
Duke @ Notre Dame 2:30 p.m. NBC
LSU @ Ole Miss 3:30 p.m. CBS
Miami, Fla. @ Virginia Tech 3:30 p.m. ABC
Iowa State @ Kansas 3:30 p.m. ABC
California @ Washington 3:30 p.m. ABC
Penn State @ Michigan State 3:30 p.m. ABC/ESPN
Northern Illinois @ Navy 3:30 p.m. CSTV
Wisconsin @ Minnesota 3:30 p.m. BigTen
Western Michigan @ Iowa 3:30 p.m. BigTen
Purdue @ Indiana 3:30 p.m. BigTen
N.C. State @ Wake Forest 4:00 p.m. ESPNU
Oregon State @ Washington State 6:30 p.m. FSN
Oklahoma State @ Baylor 7:00 p.m. FSN
Southern Miss @ UTEP 7:30 p.m. CSTV
West Virginia @ Cincinnati 7:45 p.m. ESPN
Boston College @ Clemson 7:45 p.m. ESPN2
Oklahoma @ Texas Tech 8:00 p.m. ABC
Louisville @ South Florida 8:00 p.m. ESPNU

You can see a theme there. Let's just call it Big Ten Rivalry Week and let the BTN can promote the *%& out of it themselves.

The big game today is obviously The Game. Three Michigan seniors known best: Long, Henne and Hart haven't beaten Ohio State during their careers. Today they'll get a chance to end it in style. That's assuming Llloyd opens up the offense, something he hasn't done well against Ohio State. Tressel-ball usually prevails and I think it will again today.

Not a bountiful supply of marquee matchups, but many trap games for the top teams. There will be upsets today, that we know.

Feel free to discuss the games here.
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11/17/07
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I love Michigan's punter.  Anyone named "Zoltan" has my respect.

11/17/07
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YES! Can't wait for that 1-9 Duke vs 1-9 Notre Dame matchup. WOOO!!!! effing NBC

11/17/07
1
I love this day every year!  THE GAME is like Christmas in November.  GO BUCKS!

11/17/07
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I'm waiting for the PSU/MSU matchup. WE ARREEEEEEEEE

11/17/07
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On College GameDay, Corso and Herbstreit are making their picks in the ND/Duke game. Corso picked ND, saying they may be the 2nd worst team in college football, but they woun't be the absolute worst. Herbstreit picked Duke, laughing while doing so. They both made me laugh out loud.

 

I don't recall what FanIQ Nation thinks of College GameDay, but it is a great show and even as obnoxious as Corso can be, I think those two are great. That show and that crew blows away any pregame show put together for the NFL. Another reason why I love NCAA football over the NFL.

11/17/07
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IlliniBob72 wrote:

On College GameDay, Corso and Herbstreit are making their picks in the ND/Duke game. Corso picked ND, saying they may be the 2nd worst team in college football, but they woun't be the absolute worst. Herbstreit picked Duke, laughing while doing so. They both made me laugh out loud.

 

I don't recall what FanIQ Nation thinks of College GameDay, but it is a great show and even as obnoxious as Corso can be, I think those two are great. That show and that crew blows away any pregame show put together for the NFL. Another reason why I love NCAA football over the NFL.

I think Fox NFL Sunday is the only thing that can even come close to comparing, but College Gameday will hold your attention for its full time.

11/17/07
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Adam wrote:
YES! Can't wait for that 1-9 Duke vs 1-9 Notre Dame matchup. WOOO!!!! effing NBC
That's got to be the worst game ever broadcast on national TV in the history of sports.

11/17/07
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(Edited by Jon)
GOAL SCOTLAND! Come on guys, one more!

(If Scotland win over Italy, they go to Euro 2008 - tied 1-1 right now - a draw, and they need Ukraine to beat France this week)

11/17/07
1
I am. I'm glad Coach Carr isn't a weather man. "This is what they call, a wet rain."

11/17/07
1
7-3 Ohio State at the half.  Hopefully they finish this out.  That way when LSU loses to Tennessee in the SEC Championship game, Oklahoma loses to Kansas who loses to Missouri who chokes today against Kansas St, and West Virginia loses to Cincinatti, and Arizona State loses to USC, we'll have Georgia in the championship game who wouldn't have even played in the SEC Championship game.

11/17/07
0
And Italy score in the 90th minute.

They got a B.S. foul call, and then a goal they didn't even need to qualify, since a draw was sufficent. Damn.

11/17/07
0
Jon wrote:
And Italy score in the 90th minute.

They got a B.S. foul call, and then a goal they didn't even need to qualify, since a draw was sufficent. Damn.
wooooooooooooooooooo!

11/17/07
3
I love Michigan's punter.  Anyone named "Zoltan" has my respect.

11/17/07
0

They were showing Missouri's QB talking about Favre, and in the graphic, it said "Bret" Favre.  Good job.   Surprised they didn't have "Farve" as well.

11/17/07
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MrNFL wrote:

They were showing Missouri's QB talking about Favre, and in the graphic, it said "Bret" Favre.  Good job.   Surprised they didn't have "Farve" as well.

Lemme take a wild guess. You picked Michigan to win.

11/17/07
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Adam wrote:
Lemme take a wild guess. You picked Michigan to win.
I think I picked Ohio State in the TV poll, I don't know.

11/17/07
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(Edited by superbird)
Go Buckeye's .And who said that they would not win!

11/17/07
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Go buckeye's.

11/17/07
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Adam wrote:
I'm waiting for the PSU/MSU matchup. WE ARREEEEEEEEE
not watching Penn State and Michigan State

11/17/07
0

UPSET ALERT....

 

LA-Monroe leads Alabama 21-14 with 4 minutes left in the game.  Monroe just recovered a Bama fumble on there own 13

11/17/07
0
Notre Dame is going to win.... Oh wait no one cares.

11/17/07
2
Scott wrote:

UPSET ALERT....

 

LA-Monroe leads Alabama 21-14 with 4 minutes left in the game.  Monroe just recovered a Bama fumble on there own 13

That isn't an upset to the degree of Appalachian St beating Michigan, but thats pretty damning.  The difference between the SEC and the Big 12, Big East, and Big Ten is pretty miminal.

11/17/07
0
Nice job by the Texas Tech band playing the Mario theme during replays

11/17/07
0
BC is lucky they are down 4. Matt Ryan is playing stupid, stop trying to throw into double and triple coverage and throw the ball earlier. The O-Line can't block for that long.

11/17/07
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kantwistaye wrote:
That isn't an upset to the degree of Appalachian St beating Michigan, but thats pretty damning.  The difference between the SEC and the Big 12, Big East, and Big Ten is pretty miminal.
Before you get too far there, you may want to note that the Big Ten actually had a slightly worse loss today with Iowa losing to 4-7 Western Michigan at home.

Both losses are bad for sure, but the Big Ten has had a much more embarrassing season.

11/17/07
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CHansen wrote:
Before you get too far there, you may want to note that the Big Ten actually had a slightly worse loss today with Iowa losing to 4-7 Western Michigan at home.

Both losses are bad for sure, but the Big Ten has had a much more embarrassing season.
Iowa losing to Western is nowhere near Alabama and UL-Monroe. This is one of the worst Iowa teams this decade. Alabama also happens to be one of the most tradition laden programs in CFB history. They shouldn't be losing to a UL-Monroe. Iowa was a 14 pt favorite, Alabama 24.5

11/17/07
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Graham Harrell has 47 attempts at half? Good Lord.

11/17/07
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
Iowa losing to Western is nowhere near Alabama and UL-Monroe. This is one of the worst Iowa teams this decade. Alabama also happens to be one of the most tradition laden programs in CFB history. They shouldn't be losing to a UL-Monroe. Iowa was a 14 pt favorite, Alabama 24.5
I really couldn't tell you the difference between ULM and WMU, I basically just went off of records.  Iowa, a 14 pt favorite, lost by 11;  Bama, a 24.5 favorite, lost by 7;  doesn't seem like a big difference to me.

And you say this is the worst Iowa team in a decade; this Iowa team is in the middle of the pack in the Big Ten this year.  That is more damning than anything.

Big Ten's 2nd place team was the joke of the non-conference and won't be ranked next week;  the entire conference's best OOC win was against a below-.500 team;  I'm sorry, but there is not a "minimal" difference between the SEC and Big Ten, which was my original point.

Again, they are both terrible losses, as I said earlier, but I don't see how this one loss puts the SEC on the Big Ten's level all of a sudden.

11/17/07
0
I hope I'm wrong, but I really don't think OU is going to be able to come back against TTU tonight, without Bradford.

11/17/07
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CHansen wrote:
I really couldn't tell you the difference between ULM and WMU, I basically just went off of records.  Iowa, a 14 pt favorite, lost by 11;  Bama, a 24.5 favorite, lost by 7;  doesn't seem like a big difference to me.

And you say this is the worst Iowa team in a decade; this Iowa team is in the middle of the pack in the Big Ten this year.  That is more damning than anything.

Big Ten's 2nd place team was the joke of the non-conference and won't be ranked next week;  the entire conference's best OOC win was against a below-.500 team;  I'm sorry, but there is not a "minimal" difference between the SEC and Big Ten, which was my original point.

Again, they are both terrible losses, as I said earlier, but I don't see how this one loss puts the SEC on the Big Ten's level all of a sudden.
I didn't think we were talking about the Big Ten and SEC again. For the 3,000th time the SEC is the premier football conference ... this year the Big Ten is in the lower run of the major conferences. Let's see what happens during bowl season. It's not where you start, it's where you finish.

In regard to what's a worse loss I can't conceive of an argument making Iowa's more damning than Alabama's given the environment surrounding both schools this year.

11/17/07
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(Edited by CHansen)
CriticalFanatic wrote:
I didn't think we were talking about the Big Ten and SEC again. For the 3,000th time the SEC is the premier football conference ... this year the Big Ten is in the lower run of the major conferences. Let's see what happens during bowl season. It's not where you start, it's where you finish.

In regard to what's a worse loss I can't conceive of an argument making Iowa's more damning than Alabama's given the environment surrounding both schools this year.
My original post was in response to "there is a pretty minimal difference between the big ten, sec et al. this year";  I think that's where your confusion lies.  The comparison WAS being made and I was trying to show why that was wrong.

Yes, Alabama's loss was worse, as a program, than Iowa's.  In the context of the discussion at hand, however, the Bama loss is no worse for the SEC than Iowa's loss was for the Big Ten.  This is exactly what was referenced and implied in the original post to which I responded.

ETA:  I agree with what you wrote in your last post.  But I think you must have completely missed the context of the reply which I originally posted.

11/17/07
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(Edited by CHansen)
Barring a ridiculous comeback by Oklahoma, this means that OU has to lose the Big XII champ game for any XII team to have a national championship shot.  If MU or KU loses to OU, who moves into the title game?  Ohio State, West Virginia, Arizona State. . .?

11/17/07
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I'm apparently the only one still watching + posting, but that was an interesting turn of events with TT picking the ball off on OU's 15 or so, and OU's Lofton making an awesome pick on the very next play.

11/17/07
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Huge win by BC. I almost wet my pants.

11/17/07
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Nick S wrote:
Huge win by BC. I almost wet my pants.
That was a heck of a finish, with BC making the comeback and Clemson coming up short on the potentially game-tying FG.

11/17/07
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CHansen wrote:
That was a heck of a finish, with BC making the comeback and Clemson coming up short on the potentially game-tying FG.
The Clemson QB took a stupid sack with 5 seconds left. That play lost them the game.

11/17/07
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I think OU just got screwed out of a TD.  It should have been a 7-point game with 5 minutes to go.

11/18/07
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Jon wrote:
GOAL SCOTLAND! Come on guys, one more!

(If Scotland win over Italy, they go to Euro 2008 - tied 1-1 right now - a draw, and they need Ukraine to beat France this week)
too bad for Scotland. At least England as a shot thx to the young squad Israel put up(they benched all their seniors!).

And NBC so owned themself with Notre Dame.

11/18/07
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(Edited by Jubanator14)
CHansen wrote:
I think OU just got screwed out of a TD.  It should have been a 7-point game with 5 minutes to go.
I agree . He had two hands on it and got a foot down inbounds but once it went to replay I knew we were done for. Oklahoma didn't play well at all really and Bradford going out just killed us. Oh well, hope we can regroup and take care of the Bedlam game then win the Big 12 Title.

11/18/07
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Jubanator14 wrote:
I agree . He had two hands on it and got a foot down inbounds but once it went to replay I knew we were done for. Oklahoma didn't play well at all really and Bradford going out just killed us. Oh well, hope we can regroup and take care of the Bedlam game then win the Big 12 Title.
It sucks so much knowing you had a shot at the National Championship but your team blew it. I had that feeling for the past 2 weeks with BC.

11/19/07
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Ok so I was doing some thinking and I found a way for Oklahoma to get back to the title game. It will take 13 steps in 2 weeks:

1) Oklahoma has to be Oklahoma St by a good amount
2) Kansas must beat Missouri
3) Oklahoma must beat Kansas by a good amount in the Big 12 title game
4) LSU must lose to Arkansas
5) West Virginia has to lose to Connecticut or Pittsburgh
6) Arizona St must lose to USC or Arizona
7) Georgia must lose to Georgia Tech
8) Tennessee must beat Kentucky
9) LSU must lose in the SEC title game to Tennessee or Tennessee loses to Kentucky and then Georgia must best LSU
10) Virgina Tech must lose to Virginia
11) Oregon must lose to Oregon St.
12) USC should lose to UCLA just to be safe
13) Finally, Oklahoma gets to play Ohio St. in the National Title game

So there you go, Oklahoma plays Ohio St. in the title game, you heard it hear first.

11/19/07
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Jubanator14 wrote:
Ok so I was doing some thinking and I found a way for Oklahoma to get back to the title game. It will take 13 steps in 2 weeks:

1) Oklahoma has to be Oklahoma St by a good amount
2) Kansas must beat Missouri
3) Oklahoma must beat Kansas by a good amount in the Big 12 title game
4) LSU must lose to Arkansas
5) West Virginia has to lose to Connecticut or Pittsburgh
6) Arizona St must lose to USC or Arizona
7) Georgia must lose to Georgia Tech
8) Tennessee must beat Kentucky
9) LSU must lose in the SEC title game to Tennessee or Tennessee loses to Kentucky and then Georgia must best LSU
10) Virgina Tech must lose to Virginia
11) Oregon must lose to Oregon St.
12) USC should lose to UCLA just to be safe
13) Finally, Oklahoma gets to play Ohio St. in the National Title game

So there you go, Oklahoma plays Ohio St. in the title game, you heard it hear first.
Good luck with that...

11/19/07
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Pat wrote:
Good luck with that...
A guy can dream though.

 
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