Curt Schilling was encouraged by the Red Sox to use PEDs in 2008

Were the Red Sox encouraging players to use PEDs as recently as 2008?

2/7/13 in MLB   |   Pat   |   5233 respect

August 3, 2012; Boston, MA, USA; Boston Red Sox former pitcher Curt Schilling with wife Schonda during pre-game ceremonies prior to a game against the Minnesota Twins at Fenway Park. Mandatory Credit: Bob DeChiara-USA TODAY SportsIn a conversation with Colin Cowherd, former MLB pitcher Curt Schilling says that some Red Sox employees encouraged him to take performance enhancing drugs in 2008.

"At the end of my career, in 2008 when I had gotten hurt, there was a conversation that I was involved in in which it was brought to my attention that this is a potential path I might want to pursue. Former members of the organization — they’re no longer there. It was an incredibly uncomfortable conversation. Because it came up in the midst of a group of people. The other people weren’t in the conversation but they could clearly hear the conversation. And it was suggested to me that at my age and in my situation, why not? What did I have to lose? Because if I wasn’t going to get healthy, it didn’t matter. And if I did get healthy, great. It caught me off guard, to say the least. That was an awkward situation."

If true, this could bring MLB down hard on the Red Sox organization.

Already, their World Series rings from 2004 and 2007 are considered by some to be tainted, after knowing that Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz were among the players who failed drug tests at one point or another. Granted, pretty much every team has had at least one guy at any given time who has failed a test, but the fact that members of the Red Sox organization was encouraging it makes it look extremely bad on them.

Is it realistic that someone from the team suggested to Schilling that he should use banned substances to help aid his recovery?

Full disclosure: I'm a diehard Red Sox fan. I've been to around 75 games at Fenway since I moved back to Massachusetts in October of 2008. I have always been, and will always be a Red Sox fan.

That having been said... Yes, it's absolutely realistic.

August 24, 2012; Boston, MA USA; Boston Red Sox designated hitter David Ortiz (34) prior to a game against the Kansas City Royals at Fenway Park. Mandatory Credit: Bob DeChiara-US PRESSWIREThe Red Sox benefited for years from a drug-aided Manny Ramirez. The same can be said for David Ortiz, who still vehemently denies all rumors of PED use, but just doesn't pass the eye test. Anyone with even a shred of common sense can see that there's a reason Ortiz's name came out as one of the players who failed a test, and it wasn't just a false rumor.

Players aren't done cheating, just because MLB has cracked down a little bit here and there.

Ryan Braun dodged a bullet when he failed a test for elevated testosterone, but is still connected to the Miami PED scandal, as is his Miami Hurricanes baseball team.

Victor Conte, one of the experts on doping, believes 60% of athletes are on some sort of performance enhancing drug, and refers to baseball's testing program as an IQ test, not a drug test. He believes that anyone can pass it, as long as they're careful, and has even spelled out exactly what players have to do to beat MLB tests.

Performance enhancing drugs haven't gone anywhere, folks. They're still alive and well in baseball, and the MLB folks really have to look at Schilling's allegations and decide if they're going to let it slide, as has been their modus operandi to this point, or if they're finally going to start taking it seriously.

The Red Sox organization might be a good place to start.
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2/11/13   |   ML31   |   3675 respect

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As long as the money is there, like everyone has said...  They aren't going anywhere.  PED's have been around for decades.  No one cared until a so called "sacred" record was assaulted by people associated with their use.
I harken back to the 1988 ALCS.  People in Boston serenaded Jose Canseco with a "steeeeeee-ooiiiiiiiiids" chant.  But Canseco was a perceived clown and no record people really cared about (40-40 season) was being threatened by him. 

But the thing that I find odd is PED's have GOT to be running rampant in the nations most popular game...  The NFL.  Yet NO ONE seems to care.  Not only do they not seem to care, but that is a sport where it would seem the affects of PED's would actually severely increase a players performance!  It just boggles my mind....

2/7/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

They're not going anywhere in any sport. I just don't get why we decided that we only care about it in baseball, and not any other sport.

2/7/13   |   Debi_L   |   11868 respect

I honestly believe that the owners/coaches of EVERY team in the MLB (and probably other Pro sports as well) are not only aware, but encouraged many, many, MANY of their hired athletes to use PED's.  I honestly believe they are still using them.  Does it matter to me? Not any more.  You simply cannot keep stripping awards, nullifying records and clarifying statuses to try to determine what was and wasn't a skewed statistic.  

2/7/13   |   huskerdoug2009   |   2790 respect

The sad fact Pat, is that most of society not only acknowledges that players use them, but also a high percentage of people don't care.  However, the one's that do, are for the most part the one's that hold those little pieces of gold called Hall of Fame ballots.  They are also the one's who will go to war with anyone that dare say anything negative about those who played and were elected to the Hall before 1990.  Because we all know anyone who played before the steroid era was "Perfect."wink