Danica Patrick Finally Signs NASCAR Deal
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Danica to NASCAR: An IndyCar Fan's Thoughts

12/9/09 in NASCAR   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

So, saying all that, will I root for Danica to succeed? To the extent I root for all former open-wheelers to succeed, yes. At times, I feel that's the only way the form of racing I love is going to get any respect. The success of Juan Montoya this year, as well as AJ Allmendinger showing some moments and even Max Papis becoming a fan favorite helped in this regard, but at times it feels like an uphill battle. I do think the backlash is more anti-Danica, which I can understand. That said, if she fails (and there are plenty of reason why that's possible, if not likely), that doesn't mean she's a terrible driver as a whole. Just like failing didn't make Dario Franchitti terrible, or Sam Hornish Jr. if his lackluster stock car career stays on this path. They're very different forms of racing, and switching can't possibly be easy, no matter who is converting to what (ahem, Mr. Waltrip).

So, to conclude this rambling mess, I want to go back to what it means IndyCar and it's future. Danica notwithstanding, good things are happening. The series finally has a title sponsor, Izod, and they are interested in marketing and activation. Better still, their strategy is based on marketing the speed of the cars and is not based on one driver. There also remains a possibility that next year's car count will increase into the 24-26 range, which is about the sweet spot for non-Indy 500 races. While the problems remain large and the work long and hard, the sky is not falling because Danica is plotting her exit strategy.

So, in the end, good luck Danica (I guess). While your firestorm churns out, I'm going to try and be cautiously optimistic for the future of the Izod IndyCar Series. That, and countdown to May like always.
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12/10/09   |   ckillorin   |   219 respect

mrward51 wrote:
Cool, Id like to see her whoop stewarts yang..."Ladies and gentlemen-------The     NNEEWWW    Sprint Cup champ

thats Mr. Swagger!!!!!!

12/10/09   |   mrward51   |   46 respect

Cool, Id like to see her whoop stewarts yang..."Ladies and gentlemen-------The     NNEEWWW    Sprint Cup champ

12/9/09   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Who is saying that it was easy? Nobody has said that (at least in this country, Euro F1 fans might be different). Did I think they'd be better staring out? Yes, but these are mostly drivers I grew up watching. I overrate them because of my childhood memories. I've since admitted I was wrong. This feels like a strawman argument. NASCAR isn't the form of racing fighting for respect here.
(Edited by Debi_L)

someone in another  thread said it was going to be a piece of cake for her - there have only been a hundred or so comments on the subject

12/9/09   |   maddhatter6691   |   7918 respect

I hope she does well. Personally I dont watch any form of car racing. But as times change Dont be surprised to see her in the top spots. I know it's kinda scary to lose to a girl 

12/9/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
I know that you are, Tina and unfortunately there aren't enough of us.  And that was pretty much the same as my comment in another Danica thread (which one I have no clue) but that if i were a slice like some people are suggesting, Dario, AJ, Patrick, etc all would be Series champions by now!

Who is saying that it was easy? Nobody has said that (at least in this country, Euro F1 fans might be different). Did I think they'd be better staring out? Yes, but these are mostly drivers I grew up watching. I overrate them because of my childhood memories. I've since admitted I was wrong. This feels like a strawman argument. NASCAR isn't the form of racing fighting for respect here.

12/9/09   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Carpentier's a bad example, since the last year he was full-time in IndyCars was 2005, and he never actually got a full-time ride in stock cars, so it's not like he had a real shot at it.

Edit: Also, both Franchitti and Carpentier are in their mid to late-30s, and I really think age matters in this, in a "can't teach an old dog new tricks" way.

ummmmm Danica isn't racing full time either????? She's trying a handful of Nationwide and ARCA races was my understanding.......

12/9/09   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

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Deb: Better yet, maybe she should ask Dario Franchetti or Partick Carpentier about the move from open wheel to NASCAR. I am also a fan of RACING having attended many F1, sports car and Indy type races as well as NASCAR. For me, there is nothing like watching a fast car maneuver around a race track.

I know that you are, Tina and unfortunately there aren't enough of us.  And that was pretty much the same as my comment in another Danica thread (which one I have no clue) but that if i were a slice like some people are suggesting, Dario, AJ, Patrick, etc all would be Series champions by now!

12/9/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

(Edited by Eric_)

Carpentier's a bad example, since the last year he was full-time in IndyCars was 2005, and he never actually got a full-time ride in stock cars, so it's not like he had a real shot at it.

Edit: Also, both Franchitti and Carpentier are in their mid to late-30s, and I really think age matters in this, in a "can't teach an old dog new tricks" way.

12/9/09   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Her first race? That's a small, small sample size with no predictive value. I mean, this time last year people were calling Montoya a bust. It'll be a few years before we know if this works.

I never ever said Montoya was a bust.  I honestly think she will be on a fast track to learn.  There will be a whole bunch of people tuning in to see how she does.  If she isn't able to show she has some measure of talent in the car right off the bat, JR Motorsports, HMS and GoDaddy aren't going to save her.  Of course, just as the TV stations  followed Jimmie Johnson around the track all during the Chase even when he wasn't doing anything spectacular, I am sure they will folllow Danica.  Never mind what I said above then, it won't matter if she is last, the TV cameras will be ALL over her.

12/9/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
As you well know Eric, I'm a RACING fan.  I think you have aptly put into words a lot of what I've been wondering about.   I do NOT like Pressdog though, mostly because of the sooooooo out there anit-NASCAR attitude.  I don't understand why people cannot just be fans of racing, as I am.??
Anyway, , enough rambling.  I don't wish her ill in  NASCAR, I just don't think she will come out and take the sport by storm.  Do I want her to fail?? Hell no! But it IS going to be a challenge.  Ask Tony Stewart, or Juan Montoya or any other open wheel driver who has made the move.   I think her very first race will give us a great idea of how she will do.

and BTW, it is Jr Motorsports

Her first race? That's a small, small sample size with no predictive value. I mean, this time last year people were calling Montoya a bust. It'll be a few years before we know if this works.

12/9/09   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

As you well know Eric, I'm a RACING fan.  I think you have aptly put into words a lot of what I've been wondering about.   I do NOT like Pressdog though, mostly because of the sooooooo out there anit-NASCAR attitude.  I don't understand why people cannot just be fans of racing, as I am.??
Anyway, , enough rambling.  I don't wish her ill in  NASCAR, I just don't think she will come out and take the sport by storm.  Do I want her to fail?? Hell no! But it IS going to be a challenge.  Ask Tony Stewart, or Juan Montoya or any other open wheel driver who has made the move.   I think her very first race will give us a great idea of how she will do.

and BTW, it is Jr Motorsports