Darrell Waltrip Says It's Easier to Go From A Stock Car to an IndyCar With No Proof
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Darrell Waltrip is a Moron That Needs to Stick to Talking NASCAR

7/20/09 in IndyCar   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Darrell Waltrip is one of NASCAR's all-time greats. He knows infinitely more about stock car racing than I ever will or care to know about, even if "boogity, boogity, boogity" is quite possibly the dumbest phrase in the history of mankind. Given Waltrip's stature and job as FOX race commentator, obviously he is going to be demand to talk NASCAR. Fine. However, sometimes he tries to speak of other racing series, and frankly he has no idea what he is talking about when he does.

Waltrip appeared on SPEED's Wind Tunnel Sunday night with Dave Despain and co-host Robin Miller. The following is a partial transcript:

Robin Miller: I have been beating this drum for I don’t know, too long for Despain’s taste, but you got Jimmie Johnson and Kyle Busch and Kasey Kahne and Lil’ E all saying ‘we want to run the Indy 500, so if I’m the (IMS) Speedway, I’m going to accommodate these guys. How do you think they’d do?

Darrell Waltrip: I think they’d do great. Apparently, and I’ve never driven an Indy car, but apparently it’s a lot easier to get out of a stock car and get in an Indy car and be successful or competitive than it is to get out of an Indy car and get into a stock car. Seems like it is much more difficult to go from, like Dario, to go from an Indy car to a stock car and doesn’t seem to be able to make that transition. But Tony Stewart has been able to jump back and forth. Once you got the feel for the stock car and they would do great. If I’m Tony George and my focus is on the IRL, I’m going to make that happen. That would bring the Indy 500 back the prominence it once had.


You got to love Waltrip making assumptions about something he never drove. He also later called IndyCars (which are on average 40 mph faster than a stock car) "go-karts." Classy.

Look, as I've been told pretty much every time this comes up, IndyCar drivers that have headed to NASCAR haven't set the world on fire (even though Montoya is currently in a chase spot). However, why does that give people like Waltrip carte blanche to assume that it would be any different the other way around? This is not the 60s and 70s, where drivers drove everything and could jump from car to car. Back then, Mario Andretti and AJ Foyt both won the Daytona 500, while Donnie Allison raced the Indy 500 twice in the early 70s and finished 4th and 6th. That was then. Now, however, the cars have  become so advanced and so specialized that they require almost completely different skill sets.

We've seen that quite a bit from the open wheel to stock car migration. However, there hasn't been any stock car to open wheel migration in a long time. The only recent conversion was Stanton Barrett this year, who has already washed out of IndyCar, although given that he was given the slowest car in the series, he never had a chance. Yes, this means my hypothesis can't be proven, even though I think it's logical. However, it means Waltrip's can't be proven either.

It is a problem though for IndyCar's quest for legitmacy. Let's be honest, NASCAR fans are the people IndyCar needs to get into the fan fold, as "stick-and-ball" fans mostly don't think racing is a sport. If Waltrip though, a respected member of the NASCAR community, feels a way that infers IndyCar is an inferior form of racing, it stands to reason that many NASCAR fans likely feel this way too. The real and perceived struggles of former IndyCar drivers in NASCAR, regardless of context, only confirms the belief in their minds. It'll be hard for IndyCar to convert fans who feel this way. It just adds to the myraid of problems affecting IndyCar today.
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7/27/09   |   sandybeach21

i love dw :)

7/26/09   |   clearview315

what a jackass!!!!!

7/21/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
I'm with you 100% on that. I'm a racing fan.  I spent the weekend at my local racetrack watching stock cars rading with open wheel cars racing with sprint cars.  It was an awesome weekend and they all get along just fine.  No one thinks their style is better than the other, in  fact a family may have a brother, a son and a daughter in each of the series. 

I respect DW and his opinion a great deal and I would far rather listen to his opinion during a race than 99% of the others.   i still say he wasn't dissing Indy, only perhaps trying to say that an influx of NASCAR drivers might bring some of the fans back thaty they once had.  I used to watch a lot more IRL ten years ago than I have lately.  Indy did that to themselves with all their infighting, NASCAR didn't have a thing to do with it.

While much of Indy's wounds are self-inflicted, NASCAR didn't just sit idly at let it happen. Bill France was "advising" Tony George to go with the split. Plus, there's ISC's method of "promotion" of IndyCar races at their track. Because of stuff like that, I will never EVER believe that anyone associated with NASCAR gives a crap about IndyCar except to destroy it.

7/21/09   |   ShagNasty

Don't worry.  A lot of NASCAR fans think he is dumb too.  He should be replaced by Dale Jarrett who does a wonderful job in the Nationwide series. 

7/21/09   |   Bashfulblue   |   7 respect

DW  says alot of thing he doesn't have a clue about......

7/21/09   |   Toejam   |   22 respect

the days of drivers jumping from series to series are long gone, some of the greats like Dan Gurney, AJ Foyt, Mario Andretti, and Emerson Fittipaldi could do so with apparent ease. This doesn't make any series "better" just different......

7/20/09   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

larrystarstruck wrote:
 Actually, I have seen that attitude on the Indy side too. It's been clear to me for years that Indy fans think Open Wheel racing is superior and Nascar fans think stock car racing is superior. Being a fan that has been to both types of races in my area, I like Nascar better overall. But it's all opinion.

I'm with you 100% on that. I'm a racing fan.  I spent the weekend at my local racetrack watching stock cars rading with open wheel cars racing with sprint cars.  It was an awesome weekend and they all get along just fine.  No one thinks their style is better than the other, in  fact a family may have a brother, a son and a daughter in each of the series. 

I respect DW and his opinion a great deal and I would far rather listen to his opinion during a race than 99% of the others.   i still say he wasn't dissing Indy, only perhaps trying to say that an influx of NASCAR drivers might bring some of the fans back thaty they once had.  I used to watch a lot more IRL ten years ago than I have lately.  Indy did that to themselves with all their infighting, NASCAR didn't have a thing to do with it.

7/20/09   |   djjfrench   |   67 respect

I will just say it's an opinion nothing wrong with it and he did state examples that he used for support.  Who knows it's like a Tootsie Roll pop the world will never know.

7/20/09   |   larrystarstruck   |   23 respect

 Actually, I have seen that attitude on the Indy side too. It's been clear to me for years that Indy fans think Open Wheel racing is superior and Nascar fans think stock car racing is superior. Being a fan that has been to both types of races in my area, I like Nascar better overall. But it's all opinion.

7/20/09   |   kengsanchez

super

7/20/09   |   WhoDat12   |   2252 respect

7/20/09   |   lvallanc   |   25 respect

what he said was it is easy to go from nascar to indy then the other way around,if nascar drivers wont to drive in the  indy 500 let them

7/20/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
I guess I'm in the minority.  I didn't perceive DW's comment to be saying IRL is a lesser series at all.  I Think he is trying to say that the IRL-not CART-now IRL  saga that has gone on in the past years has affected a series he loved way back when.  He sees, as many of us do, that the IRL has suffered because of this.  Maybe he is just offerenng what he sees as a possible way to give IRL a boost. 

Everything isn't always about "I'm better than you are"

He's also paid to shill for NASCAR. Thus, he will always put it in language that makes NASCAR look good.

7/20/09   |   Debi_L   |   11781 respect

I guess I'm in the minority.  I didn't perceive DW's comment to be saying IRL is a lesser series at all.  I Think he is trying to say that the IRL-not CART-now IRL  saga that has gone on in the past years has affected a series he loved way back when.  He sees, as many of us do, that the IRL has suffered because of this.  Maybe he is just offerenng what he sees as a possible way to give IRL a boost. 

Everything isn't always about "I'm better than you are"

7/20/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

tre_bomber03 wrote:
"Look, as I've been told pretty much every time this comes up, IndyCar drivers that have headed to NASCAR haven't set the world on fire (even though Montoya is currently in a chase spot). However, why does that give people like Waltrip carte blanche to assume it wouldn't work the other way around?"

Well, he's actually saying just the opposite.  He's saying that it WOULD work the other way around.

I've edited the language, which hopefully clarifies things.

7/20/09   |   tre_bomber03   |   3 respect

"Look, as I've been told pretty much every time this comes up, IndyCar drivers that have headed to NASCAR haven't set the world on fire (even though Montoya is currently in a chase spot). However, why does that give people like Waltrip carte blanche to assume it wouldn't work the other way around?"

Well, he's actually saying just the opposite.  He's saying that it WOULD work the other way around.

7/20/09   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

$$$ and contracts likely prohibiting them from racing in any other form unless given permission will continue to prevent NASCAR "stars" from racing Indy.

7/20/09   |   kantwistaye   |   4210 respect

I think it would be entertaining as hell to see someone like Kyle Busch, who is undeniably talented but doesn't have an open wheel background, take a stab at IndyCar.  However, until the money starts to become equal between IndyCar and NASCAR that will never happen.