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7/24/07
David Stern Tim Donaghy Press Conference Live Thread
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Does David Stern look defeated or what? You hardly hear the Commissioner utter so many "Uh's" and speak with so much caution. Since this is likely the biggest news of the day ... how about a belated live-thread

11:15
Stern spend the first 15 minutes outlining all of the procedures the NBA has in place to prevent such an event. Which clearly haven't worked. Congrats! That might explain the look.

11:22 Outlines accusations against Donaghy. Accused of betting on NBA games, those he worked and those he didn't. Will likely be accused of providing information to others for them to profit on betting NBA games.

11:25 Explains lack of early termination as a decision to help the investigation. Met with FBI on June 21st.

11:28 Assures us this is an isolated incident.

11:29
Worst situation he's ever experienced in working with the NBA

11:31 "Officiating staff is the best in the world." Ok, he lost me with that one. Time to re-watch the playoffs, with all due respect.
 

Question/Answer Time (not exact words)

Rachel Nichols - Take us through your range of emotions?
David should ask her what her range of emotions are when she puts on a new frightening mask every morning. Anyways, Stern answers the way you might imagine. "Can't believe it's happened to us."

Liz Robbins (NY Times) - What will you do with your system to make it more transparent? What will you do with players to reassure them the system works?
Will wait for investigation to run it's course. Still believes it's a "rouge" incident. Admits to referees not being as modest as he'd prefer (with a smirk). Continues to point out NBA's "covenant with fans." Will continue to work with referees to get accuracy up. Wants to fans to understand how the system works. Continue to "bear the expense" of the the WNBA and NBDL. So maybe we now understand why those leagues are around ... to try extremely poor officials.

Addressing media scrutiny ....
Good answer from Stern, the only one he could provide. When you invite the media in to cover all the good, you have to understand the bad news becomes equally or more compelling.

How certain can you be this is an isolated incident?
"I think I was just asked when I stopped beating my wife" Odd way to begin your answer, I think. Not 100% positive, but with his current understanding believes it's isolated. Can't comment on investigation.

Did Donaghy make calls that changed the outcome of games?
Stern having trouble with phrasing answer. Reference earlier comment that he bet on games, and provided information. Dodged.

How did he bet?
Long pause. Doesn't believe it was in Vegas.

Why weren't Donaghy's "anger management issues" off the court enough for the NBA to take action?

Only enough to speak with him directly and warn. Was pulled out of Round 2 of the 2005-06 Playoffs.

Interrupts second question about this being an isolated incident ... to assure that it's his current understanding. Will tell us when/if it isn't.

Another - Did he bet on games he officiated?
Carefully choosing his words, and recycling them, he essentially says yes.

A direct question about his involvement in Game 3 of the Suns - Spurs Series.

Would like to await the outcome of the criminal investigation to understand whether Donaghy did bet on Game 3 of the Suns-Spurs series. Will be reviewing film and performance.

Is it possible to determine whether an NBA official is cheating while on the court?
Good work by ESPN to interrupt his answer because it's the top of the hour. It sounded as if he answered "they will try to determine if it is possible." He thinks it is.

Highlight of the press conference ... apparently an NBA referee has to get a permission slip to go to a Horse Racing track in the summer. All other forms of gambling are against the code of NBA officiating.

Does this affect an NBA team being in Las Vegas?
Doesn't know. Did cancel a meeting next week to actually discuss the matter.

Did other referees know of his affiliation with organized crime?
Ok, not sure I believe Stern on this answer. He says only after the FBI investigation was made aware on June 20.

Not able to answer a question concerning Tim Donaghy's motives.

Informs that Donaghy's salary last year was $260,000

As uncomfortable David Stern appeared ... Jay Crawford is making him appear quite composed. Anyways, that appears to be the gist of his press conference. Reactions?
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7/24/07
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LOL, Now they're talking about wire tapping?


7/24/07
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I'm not sure how this incident is related to David Stern beating his wife. Did anyone else understand that reference that he made?

7/24/07
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Pat wrote:
I'm not sure how this incident is related to David Stern beating his wife. Did anyone else understand that reference that he made?
Yeah, that confused me too.

7/24/07
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The more I hear Stern talk, and so carefully choosing his words, the more I think he will be EATING his words later on, and his lying (or lack of truth) today will lead to his eventual termination.

I would be shocked if Stern still has this job 1 year from now.

7/24/07
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Pat wrote:
The more I hear Stern talk, and so carefully choosing his words, the more I think he will be EATING his words later on, and his lying (or lack of truth) today will lead to his eventual termination.

I would be shocked if Stern still has this job 1 year from now.
I disagree with you. Stern will most certainly have his job, and in fact will want to stick around longer to make sure when he steps down he has fixed this issue.

He's choosing his words very carefully, because 1) there's an FBI investigation and 2) he is clearly troubled by this happening to him. I don't think he's lying at all.

7/24/07
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"We'll maintain confidence of our fans and regain the confidence of those shaken"

 

Ya sure about that Mr. Stern?


7/24/07
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So the sound dies for ESPN...Great job ESPN...because we want to listen to Skeletor (Hubie Brown)

7/24/07
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
I disagree with you. Stern will most certainly have his job, and in fact will want to stick around longer to make sure when he steps down he has fixed this issue.

He's choosing his words very carefully, because 1) there's an FBI investigation and 2) he is clearly troubled by this happening to him. I don't think he's lying at all.
well said Jason. With the FBI involved, i actually think he is limited to what he actually can say openly to the public.

7/24/07
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MrNFL wrote:
So the sound dies for ESPN...Great job ESPN...because we want to listen to Skeletor (Hubie Brown)
lol!

7/24/07
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
I disagree with you. Stern will most certainly have his job, and in fact will want to stick around longer to make sure when he steps down he has fixed this issue.

He's choosing his words very carefully, because 1) there's an FBI investigation and 2) he is clearly troubled by this happening to him. I don't think he's lying at all.
Agreed.

I caught some of the press conference while getting ready for work. He is clearly ashamed of all of this, and he knows that everything he has been working so hard to build up over the years could come crashing down, especially if this turns out to be any bigger. Sure, conspiracy theories would say he's involved himself, but I honestly don't think this. I have no doubt he will do whatever he can to try and fix things... err.. repair things, but the question is, will it be enough?

7/24/07
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Jon wrote:
Agreed.

I caught some of the press conference while getting ready for work. He is clearly ashamed of all of this, and he knows that everything he has been working so hard to build up over the years could come crashing down, especially if this turns out to be any bigger. Sure, conspiracy theories would say he's involved himself, but I honestly don't think this. I have no doubt he will do whatever he can to try and fix things... err.. repair things, but the question is, will it be enough?
i kinda feel bad for Mr. Stern. You're right, Jon. Its not easy for someone to lose everything.... what he is feeling right now is like someone losing a home... its heartbreaking... and David Stern is in a lot of pain right now. I don't think anyone deserves to boo or down Mr. Stern anymore (for now at least). None of this has anything to do with him... the only mistake he actually physically made was the new ball, which he corrected the problem, and "upholding" the suspensions of Amare and Boris. Thats all in my point of view... you can only blame the people who are trying to corrupt the NBA... like Joe Crawford and Tim Donaghy.

7/24/07
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Jon wrote:
Agreed.

I caught some of the press conference while getting ready for work. He is clearly ashamed of all of this, and he knows that everything he has been working so hard to build up over the years could come crashing down, especially if this turns out to be any bigger. Sure, conspiracy theories would say he's involved himself, but I honestly don't think this. I have no doubt he will do whatever he can to try and fix things... err.. repair things, but the question is, will it be enough?
Unfortunately for him, even if it is true that this was one man acting alone, that just gives fuel to the conspiracy nuts, and people will continue to be suspicious for a long time.

7/24/07
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oh forgot a name: Danny Ainge. There you go.

7/24/07
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MrNFL wrote:
Unfortunately for him, even if it is true that this was one man acting alone, that just gives fuel to the conspiracy nuts, and people will continue to be suspicious for a long time.
right once again... i think i said it before in another thread, but a HUUUUGE question to ask now is, "Who do you trust"? This will affect the NBA for years to come... what a shame...

7/24/07
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Chris wrote:
oh forgot a name: Danny Ainge. There you go.
Yes. Danny Ainge is ruining basketball. At least...in ONE city, he is. I wish this could somehow be linked back to Ainge...that would be great.

7/24/07
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Pat wrote:
Yes. Danny Ainge is ruining basketball. At least...in ONE city, he is. I wish this could somehow be linked back to Ainge...that would be great.
after all the changes that were made to the NBA, they are going to have to revamp it all over again... such a sad situation... if i were to correct this issue, i'd find all the corruption and kick it out no excuses or questions asked!

7/24/07
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i know this is random... but i want everyone to read what i wrote because i am sincere to this... I'm sorry about the bad things that i have done this year, and i definately did not want to taint my image on everyone on here, especially to guys like Pat, Jason and Ty-- because they are the pinnacle on here... so i apologize deeply for anything i have said out of anger... i am known for talking out of my ass rather than my brain sometimes... so i apologize... if i can delete my corruption and replace my image with something better, i hope i can do so for the sake of friendship. I also have to say sorry to all the great fans on FanIQ if i did ever say something offensive or wrong about them or their teams... i apologize FanIQ. (thanks for reading.)


7/24/07
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(Edited by Jubanator14)
Pat wrote:
I'm not sure how this incident is related to David Stern beating his wife. Did anyone else understand that reference that he made?
The reference is a "joke" and a loaded question. Think about what your answer to the questions "When did you stop beating your wife?" You say "Yes, I have stopped beating my wife", which entails "I was beating my wife." "No, I haven't stopped beating my wife", which entails "I am still beating my wife." Basically he was side stepping the loaded question.

7/24/07
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Jubanator14 wrote:
The reference is a "joke" and a loaded question. Think about what your answer to the questions "When did you stop beating your wife?" You say "Yes, I have stopped beating my wife", which entails "I was beating my wife." "No, I haven't stopped beating my wife", which entails "I am still beating my wife." Basically he was side stepping the loaded question.
Ok. That makes sense. I guess I didn't perceive the question to be so loaded at the time, and wasn't able to make the connection.

Thanks.

7/24/07
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Pat wrote:
I'm not sure how this incident is related to David Stern beating his wife. Did anyone else understand that reference that he made?
I'm not sure if this was already answered by someone else, but it's supposed to be like a "trap" question. "Are you still beating you're wife?" Whether you say "yes" or "no", you don't eliminate the possibility that you at least were beating your wife before. (Of course, you can say I've never beaten my wife.) Anyway, Stern apparently felt the question posed to him put him in a similar predicament.

7/24/07
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Jubanator14 wrote:
The reference is a "joke" and a loaded question. Think about what your answer to the questions "When did you stop beating your wife?" You say "Yes, I have stopped beating my wife", which entails "I was beating my wife." "No, I haven't stopped beating my wife", which entails "I am still beating my wife." Basically he was side stepping the loaded question.
Oh, it had been answered. Great. I'm a putz.

7/24/07
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blipper21 wrote:
Oh, it had been answered. Great. I'm a putz.
I'll give you a thumbs up for trying!

7/29/07
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Jubanator14 wrote:
I'll give you a thumbs up for trying!
lol. TY

 
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