Daytona 500 [Live Race Thread]

With Heavy Hearts, Drivers vow safety first as they race in the Daytona 500

2/24/13 in NASCAR   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Blog Photo - Daytona 500 [Live Race Thread]As I type this, Joey Chitwood, president of Daytona International Speedway has just conducted a Press Conference and declared that the Daytona 500 will continue as planned.  Mr. Chitwood was unable, due to privacy laws, to comment on the status of those patients transported to hospitals, but advised that the staff from the track worked to reuntie them with loved ones and provide hotel rooms, transportation, and whatever services they could to get their vehicles and belongings back to them or relatives.  Odd, but I had not thought of that .  He also advised that track workers were able to repair the catch fence and safety barrier, although the crossover gate was not placed back in the area.  

In short, the Daytona 500 will go on.

As I watch an extended version of NASCAR Raceday on SPEED, the talk is all about Danica.  The last poll was "Will she lead a lap in the Daytona 500?" and the response was 64% yes.  I'm dumbfounded.   I suppose there is a possibility she can stay out during a caution flag and lead a lap, but I honestly do not believe she has the talent to stay up front and lead a lap, regardless of starting on the front row.  After all, she has Jeff Gordon starting right beside her.  That man does have the experience to get around the track and do so better than others.  He will lead the first lap.

Tony Stewart actually won the Nationwide race yesterday, but his win and matching of Dale Sr's wins in the event at seven, was certainly overshadowed by the wreck.  He gets to hang out with AJ Foyt today, his hero, so perhaps that will be the good luck charm he needs for the win.  Kevin Harvick has son, Keelan, to drool on his steering wheel prior to the race; that is his good luck charm.

What have we learned so far about the new Gen6 car?  What can we expect in this race?

Well, firstly, the "two car tandem" is pretty much no more.  We may see two cars join up and race to get to the front, but it won't be for extended laps.  The pack racing, the very dangerous pack racing, is back.  Fortunately, the best of the best are on the track for this race, and hopefully these drivers will drive like they are the best of the best.  We don't need showboating or risks.  Safety first.

As Chad Knaus pointed out, side drafting with this car is a big deal.  We should see drivers using the side draft a lot, to speed their own car up, while slowing the car they are drafting off of.  Who will best figure out the best way to use the side draft remains to be seen.

What are the predictions for today's race?  I honestly predict a safe one.  The wreck yesterday was a huge eye opener to the drivers.  The only reason we had as few injuries as we did is because the seats were not as full as they will be for today's race.  Today, all of those empty seats we saw in the videos and many pictures posted online will be full.  Daytona has no intentions to change those seats.  Blog Photo - Daytona 500 [Live Race Thread]Those fans who have purchased those seats want to be safe.  I think the drivers want them to be safe.  Although we will undoubtedly see wrecks, and perhaps even a "Big One", I predict the drivers will be driving with a little more thought for the fans' safety today.

Who do you predict to win?  Honestly, for me, I believe Dale Earnhardt Jr. has one of the fastest cars on the track, and he is one helluva a talented driver.  I believe he will get to the front and try to stay there all day.  I believe he can do it.  Of course, there are 42 other talented drivers on the track, and Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, and certainly, Kevin Harvick are going to prove to be some very stiff competition.  But I believe Dale Jr can get it done.

What about you?  Who do YOU think will win the race?
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2/25/13   |   orangemen90   |   5785 respect

Jesse8 wrote:
No kidding. Her 7 top 10 tens in 59 career Nationwide races, 23 lead lap finishes, and finishing 11th outta of 12 full time drivers last season. And here one top ten in 37 Cup races with 2 lead lap finishes. She is really something awesome...

There is nothing awesome about the skills that Patrick shows.. She parked her nationwide car because she lost the draft.. but she thought here car lost power... patrick has years to go before she will actually race in a race...Now she just drives and complains about others...

2/25/13   |   orangemen90   |   5785 respect

Now its time to get past the parade racing and onto some real Nascar racing

2/24/13   |   JenX63   |   32615 respect

Eric_ wrote:
I don't think they could pass. I really don't. Someone would've tried at the end if they could.

indecision

2/24/13   |   Scott   |   52615 respect

I'm not sure why I expected more but this race just seemed very blah.  I expected Junior to be the only driver to make a move to try and win the race and think that if he and Mark Martin had gone a lap or two earlier, they might have been able to move past Johnson.  

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

JenX63 wrote:
Patrick did fine. It was probably the most tamed 500 I have memory of watching. Yesterday must have really shook some folks up. On to Phoenix, YEAH!

I don't think they could pass. I really don't. Someone would've tried at the end if they could.

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Left at the caution to take daughter to work, so I missed the end.

Best part of that was Jr finishing second.

2/24/13   |   JenX63   |   32615 respect

Patrick did fine. It was probably the most tamed 500 I have memory of watching. Yesterday must have really shook some folks up. On to Phoenix, YEAH!

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

I'm with Eric, hate her all you want but she did a great job overall today, and legitimately had a chance to win this race.

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Jesse8 wrote:
No kidding. Her 7 top 10 tens in 59 career Nationwide races, 23 lead lap finishes, and finishing 11th outta of 12 full time drivers last season. And here one top ten in 37 Cup races with 2 lead lap finishes. She is really something awesome...

Umm, where do you get 37 Cup races?  Today was only her 10th start in the Cup series.

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

orangemen90 wrote:
Nice race... but the pressure was to stay in line. The pole sitter showed she lacked the skills at the end... maybe in 5 more years... but this will be her best finish of the year.. now on to some real racing...

So she doesn't have skills, but this isn't real racing according to you, so how did she prove she has no skills? By that logic, why is the Daytona 500 so important if it isn't real racing?

2/24/13   |     |   24 respect

orangemen90 wrote:
Nice race... but the pressure was to stay in line. The pole sitter showed she lacked the skills at the end... maybe in 5 more years... but this will be her best finish of the year.. now on to some real racing...

No kidding. Her 7 top 10 tens in 59 career Nationwide races, 23 lead lap finishes, and finishing 11th outta of 12 full time drivers last season. And here one top ten in 37 Cup races with 2 lead lap finishes. She is really something awesome...

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

When I'm in a race live thread, I like to post the results. I didn't yesterday due to the crash at the end, but for now, here goes.

Unofficial Daytona 500 Results (Note: Due to guys going back out after wrecks, I'm not sure who DNF'ed and who stayed out):

1. Jimmie Johnson (wins 2nd Daytona 500, Hendrick Motorsports wins 7th Daytona 500, second all-time)
2. Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
3. Mark Martin
4. Brad Keselowski
5. Ryan Newman
6. Greg Biffle
7. Regan Smith
8. Danica Patrick (Hate all you want, but she did well today until the last lap, lack of experience got her there, but it'll come)
9. Michael McDowell
10. J.J. Yeley
11. Clint Bowyer
12. Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.
13. Aric Almirola (not bad for my Random Number Generator pick)
14. Denny Hamlin
15. Bobby Labonte
16. David Reutimann
17. Dave Blaney
18. Marcos Ambrose
19. Joey Logano
20. Jeff Gordon
21. Paul Menard
22. Michael Waltrip
23. Scott Speed
24. Martin Truex, Jr.
25. Travis Kvapil -1 lap
26. Terry Labonte -1 lap
27. Trevor Bayne -2 laps
28. Kurt Busch -5 laps
29. Casey Mears -19 laps
30. Jeff Burton -24 laps
31. Austin Dillon -25 laps
32. Jamie McMurray -39 laps
33. Carl Edwards -41 laps
34. Kyle Busch -49 laps
35. David Ragan -50 laps
36. Kasey Kahne -50 laps
37. Matt Kenseth -51 laps (lead most laps)
38. David Gilliland -56 laps
39. Juan Pablo Montoya -56 laps (sigh)
40. Josh Wise -63 laps
41. Tony Stewart -82 laps
42. Kevin Harvick -153 laps
43. Joe Nemechek -158 laps

2/24/13   |   texas_tornado4261   |   83758 respect

Way to Go, Jimmie !!!

2/24/13   |   orangemen90   |   5785 respect

Nice race... but the pressure was to stay in line. The pole sitter showed she lacked the skills at the end... maybe in 5 more years... but this will be her best finish of the year.. now on to some real racing...

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Everyone was afraid to get out of line and try to pass until it was too late.  They needed to grow a pair today.  As for Danica, as much as people don't want to hear about her, she did very well.  I'm glad to see her be able to run up there all day, and she had an excellent day.

2/24/13   |   The_Real_Stoney   |   25095 respect

3 laps of excitement, 197 of who gives a sh*t

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

So everyone complained about the CoT and wanted the new car, and now they'll complain about this race. Can't have it both ways.

2/24/13   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

Worst 500 I've seen. It was like watching paint dry. Need to fix it somehow.

2/24/13   |   JenX63   |   32615 respect

Congrats Jimmie Johnson


*sigh of relief*

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

That was....meh. I'll take that finish over a wreck like yesterday, but otherwise...

2/24/13   |   The_Real_Stoney   |   25095 respect

well, not a bad start for my stock car challenge team.. 1st,2nd,4th,7th and f*cked by kyle busch

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Son of a b****, anybody but the 48!angry

2/24/13   |   Shaconage   |   39045 respect

Johnson takes the checker ... Wins!

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Debris caution with 9 laps left? This race has been paint by numbers of why people don't like NASCAR.

At least this time you could see the debris.  Johnson drove right through it.

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Here we go, buckle up!  Who's gonna win it?

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debris caution with 9 laps left? This race has been paint by numbers of why people don't like NASCAR.

2/24/13   |   Shaconage   |   39045 respect

Caution with 9 to go .. whew ... let go of the white knucles for a bit.

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Wow how did they not wreck right there??

2/24/13   |   Shaconage   |   39045 respect

This is shaping up to be a great finish ... 

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

BK blocking

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

How the hell is Keslowski leading? Seriously, anybody but him.

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Oh I so want Jeff and Jimmie to get together.....Jimmie needs to push Jeff to the win

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

15 minutes before I have to leave to drive my daughter to town...... Any bets on cautions??

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Scott Speed leading the Daytona 500. Didn't see that coming.

Also Debi, not to be a bother, but his name is spelled "Joie" for some reason.

Really?? I think Scott's awesome.  Why wouldn't he stay out to lead a lap if he can wink

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Scott Speed leading the Daytona 500. Didn't see that coming.

Also Debi, not to be a bother, but his name is spelled "Joie" for some reason.

2/24/13   |   JenX63   |   32615 respect

has there ever been this much "bad juju" at Daytona?

Of course, now the track is a little clearer. Who"s left to bet on? Go Jr.....

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

UGH, another RCR car out with damage.  Jeff Burton hits the wall

2/24/13   |   Shaconage   |   39045 respect

kramer wrote:
Oh s***, Truex is going too, that's three...

Last time I make a comment on Toyota's strength ... ugh.

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Whoa, Burton really smashed the hell out of that car!

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Oh s***, Truex is going too, that's three...

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Another Toyota blowing up.  Martin Truex Jr gonna head in

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Shaconage wrote:
I feel like I jinxed them with my Toyota comment.

Nah, Kenseth just had to be the one to lead at halfway.  21 years and counting.

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Here comes the money stop...

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Debi_L wrote:
The 24 and 48 cars have moved into the top 5.  Jr in 12th.  The "biding my time" runs on the track have ended and it seems the contenders left on the track have moved to the front rather than riding in the back.

Yep, if ya got something now's the time to show it!

2/24/13   |   Shaconage   |   39045 respect

kramer wrote:
There goes another Gibbs car, that's 2 in the last 3 laps!  Hamlin is probably on pins and needles right now.

I feel like I jinxed them with my Toyota comment.

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

The 24 and 48 cars have moved into the top 5.  Jr in 12th.  The "biding my time" runs on the track have ended and it seems the contenders left on the track have moved to the front rather than riding in the back.

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

That phone commercial makes accountants look lame.

*looks at mirror*

Oh, wait...

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Oh, in that same race, Robby Gordon led 7 laps. I'm almost certain he led at least that many in the 1999 Indy 500, so there's your six.

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
JPM had a good finish in 2011 at Daytona, so maybe that year?

Yep, according to Wiki, Montoya led exactly 5 laps in 2011. He of course led many more laps in the 2000 Indy 500. wink That makes 5. Gotta find the last one.

2/24/13   |   The_Real_Stoney   |   25095 respect

what an awfully boring race

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

one, two.....and what about Hamlin?? 

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

There goes another Gibbs car, that's 2 in the last 3 laps!  Hamlin is probably on pins and needles right now.

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Oh no, no tire rub, that's something internal and quite possibly terminal.

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Is that a tire rub?  The halfway lead jinx strikes again.

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Eric_ wrote:
I just saw on my Twitter feed than Danica is now the 6th driver to lead at least 5 laps in both the Daytona 500 and the Indy 500. I pass this along to try and figure out the other 5. Obviously Andretti, Foyt, and Stewart are three of them. Have Montoya and/or Robby Gordon led laps at Daytona?

JPM had a good finish in 2011 at Daytona, so maybe that year?

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Eric_ wrote:
I just saw on my Twitter feed than Danica is now the 6th driver to lead at least 5 laps in both the Daytona 500 and the Indy 500. I pass this along to try and figure out the other 5. Obviously Andretti, Foyt, and Stewart are three of them. Have Montoya and/or Robby Gordon led laps at Daytona?

Robby Gordon may have.  I'm not sure about Montoya.  That's a damn good trivia question though.

2/24/13   |   Scott   |   52615 respect

Carl Edwards has to be the happiest driver that next week's race isn't at Daytona

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

I just saw on my Twitter feed than Danica is now the 6th driver to lead at least 5 laps in both the Daytona 500 and the Indy 500. I pass this along to try and figure out the other 5. Obviously Andretti, Foyt, and Stewart are three of them. Have Montoya and/or Robby Gordon led laps at Daytona?

2/24/13   |   Shaconage   |   39045 respect

The Toyota's sure seem to be very strong in this race.

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

orangemen90 wrote:
well Patrick just showed a lack of driving skills leaving the pits... now she has a problem beside worrying about MK's fuel mileage... the parade continues...

Did you hear the radio transmission after that?? LMAO

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

orangemen90 wrote:
well Patrick just showed a lack of driving skills leaving the pits... now she has a problem beside worrying about MK's fuel mileage... the parade continues...

In her defense, whoever has the first pit stall is going to lose a couple spots on green flag pit stops when a gaggle of cars come together because they're all up to pit road speed already when they get to the line, she's not. 

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
One more thing, then I'll shut up as well.  Kyle Petty, IMO, is one of the most knowledgeable guys in the booth.  I love listening to him as he doesn't say the popular thing, he says what he thinks (tweets it too) and he certainly wasn't nearly as successful as his father, grandfather or son.  Being a good driver, does not make you a good announcer.

I find that is true in other sports too. Most of you don't watch the NBA, but Reggie Miller is a terrible announcer on TNT. Steve Kerr though is one of the best.

2/24/13   |   orangemen90   |   5785 respect

22 slowed and the rest slammed into each other..

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Oooh, smash Carl Edwards, Bayne, Stenhouse, Dillon, ugh and Terry Labonte.  I think Edwards will be glad to get the hell out of Daytona.

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Why am I not surprised in the least that Carl Edwards is involved in this??

2/24/13   |   orangemen90   |   5785 respect

well Patrick just showed a lack of driving skills leaving the pits... now she has a problem beside worrying about MK's fuel mileage... the parade continues...

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Quick Google search says Dallenbach made 226 starts in Sprint Cup. I would think he has some clue on how it works. I think he's fine in the IndyCar booth, and he only had four starts in that series. He also has 4 class wins at the 24 Hours of Daytona, 3 class wins at the 12 Hours of Sebring, and two Trans-Am series championships in the 80s (in the 80s and 90s that was a competitive series). Dude could wheel a race car. Did he ever have a decent ride in Cup? I've told you a hundred times: someone's NASCAR career is not always the totality of said career.

One more thing, then I'll shut up as well.  Kyle Petty, IMO, is one of the most knowledgeable guys in the booth.  I love listening to him as he doesn't say the popular thing, he says what he thinks (tweets it too) and he certainly wasn't nearly as successful as his father, grandfather or son.  Being a good driver, does not make you a good announcer.

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Quick Google search says Dallenbach made 226 starts in Sprint Cup. I would think he has some clue on how it works. I think he's fine in the IndyCar booth, and he only had four starts in that series. He also has 4 class wins at the 24 Hours of Daytona, 3 class wins at the 12 Hours of Sebring, and two Trans-Am series championships in the 80s (in the 80s and 90s that was a competitive series). Dude could wheel a race car. Did he ever have a decent ride in Cup? I've told you a hundred times: someone's NASCAR career is not always the totality of said career.

I don't have a problem with Wally any more!  I used to call him Dolly Wallenbach when he first started announcing, but just like anything in life, practice makes perfect better.  I would 1 million times rather have him announcing than Rusty Whiner

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Just say it Mike, Joe Nemechek was a start and park.  We all know it.

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Quick Google search says Dallenbach made 226 starts in Sprint Cup. I would think he has some clue on how it works. I think he's fine in the IndyCar booth, and he only had four starts in that series. He also has 4 class wins at the 24 Hours of Daytona, 3 class wins at the 12 Hours of Sebring, and two Trans-Am series championships in the 80s (in the 80s and 90s that was a competitive series). Dude could wheel a race car. Did he ever have a decent ride in Cup? I've told you a hundred times: someone's NASCAR career is not always the totality of said career.

I'd say when your owner is Jack Roush, yes you do have a decent ride in Cup.  I know he raced other stuff, but he leads you to believe he was great IN NASCAR, which he wasn't.

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

LOL It was asked on twitter if people would tune in to more races if DP won.  19% said yes, the rest said STFU (or pretty much any variation of the same)

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

One more thing on Dallenbach and I'll shut up: If he replaced Scott Goodyear in the ABC IndyCar booth tomorrow, I'd be happy. Success in the sport your commentating does not mean you'll be good at commentating said sport on television.

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Sounds like that paper really has turned the 24 into a ticking time bomb.

2/24/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Quick Google search says Dallenbach made 226 starts in Sprint Cup. I would think he has some clue on how it works. I think he's fine in the IndyCar booth, and he only had four starts in that series. He also has 4 class wins at the 24 Hours of Daytona, 3 class wins at the 12 Hours of Sebring, and two Trans-Am series championships in the 80s (in the 80s and 90s that was a competitive series). Dude could wheel a race car. Did he ever have a decent ride in Cup? I've told you a hundred times: someone's NASCAR career is not always the totality of said career.

2/24/13   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

I still love that gyro cam.laugh

2/24/13   |   Debi_L   |   11842 respect

Ugh, i wanna hurl.

2/24/13   |   JenX63   |   32615 respect

Black Helicopters, anyone? 
i have never been more disappointed with racing as I am right now.
no one could catch her UNTIL she led the lap. nascar got it's media blitz, hope it pays off for them