Dennis Rodman says LeBron James would be average player in Michael Jordan era

Dennis Rodman is still very much insane

6/7/13 in NBA   |   Pat   |   5232 respect

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Dennis Rodman has always been a bit crazy. From the piercings and tattoos to the wedding dress at his own wedding, Rodman has always been and will always be a guy who marches to the beat of his own drum.

He had an interview with Dan Patrick which was aired today, and it was one for the ages.

Here's the full video (more like audio, since it's just video of Dan Patrick) of the interview:



At the 2:28 mark, Rodman says just about the most ridiculous thing ever:
"If LeBron was playing in the late '80s, early '90s, he would just be an average player."

Uh, what?

I understand that Michael Jordan is widely considered the greatest basketball player of all time, and of course as a former teammate, Rodman is expected to carry the banner for MJ and stake his claim for G.O.A.T.

But to say that LeBron would just be an average player in ANY era is just laughable.

Rodman also says that his Bulls teams would beat the current Heat, which is a lot more believable. If Rodman (in his prime) played today's Heat, he would probably get 25 rebounds per game.

Rodman also sang "The Kamikaze Song," in tribute to his favorite shot, the Kamikaze. I'll try to get you that if/when it becomes available.
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6/10/13   |   jaysinw   |   4954 respect

Trokspot wrote:
I get your point, and I don't disagree with it completely.  I also often lament and criticize how bad team defense often is in the NBA.


My point was not that simply size or athletic ability would equal success.  We know that LB is much more than simply being big/strong/athletic/agile.  It's the tools/skills that come with that size that makes him a force. 

The point is that when you take a dude who is that big and strong and has phenomenal skills and he grows up in an era learning how to finish when bumped/legitimately fouled (which he would) instead of flopping to get the call (which he does because he is rewarded for it), then you still have a dominant force.  Maybe the numbers aren't as gaudy, but he would still be legit.

Big and strong does not equal success, now would him growing up in the era where fouls were called, FLOPPING was still there get the calls in the '80s and '90s. Still you have to believe that LeBron would have a different mind set for the game which is what his problem now. Many players career ended not because they were not strong enough, or big enough but they could not handle it mentally which is what Rodman was saying. He would be legit, average is another word for legit, but no way would be a super star.

6/10/13   |   Trokspot   |   65 respect

MortonsLaw wrote:
I hate the premise that his size, or for that matter anyone's size or athletic ability equals guaranteed success. The difference between today and back then is team defense. No question LeBron is a force in any era--not dismissing that. I just think the lack of commitment to team defense by today's players is a huge factor in his success. The lack of rotation is why it looks so easy for him at times.

I get your point, and I don't disagree with it completely.  I also often lament and criticize how bad team defense often is in the NBA.


My point was not that simply size or athletic ability would equal success.  We know that LB is much more than simply being big/strong/athletic/agile.  It's the tools/skills that come with that size that makes him a force. 

The point is that when you take a dude who is that big and strong and has phenomenal skills and he grows up in an era learning how to finish when bumped/legitimately fouled (which he would) instead of flopping to get the call (which he does because he is rewarded for it), then you still have a dominant force.  Maybe the numbers aren't as gaudy, but he would still be legit.

6/7/13   |   MortonsLaw   |   156 respect

Trokspot wrote:
^ if you transport this LeBron as is, back to the 80s-90s, then yes, the physical play would probably bother him for a bit. But he would adjust pretty quickly. Let's not forget that LeBron is bigger and stronger than most dudes...he has picked up the flopping and soft style of play because it works to his advantage in today's NBA.

If he grew up during that era, then he'd be accustomed to that style of play and wouldn't think twice about it. He'd still be bigger and stronger than most dudes so he'd actually be allowed to bang back, which you could argue would actually make him better back then than he actually is today. Something to consider...
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I hate the premise that his size, or for that matter anyone's size or athletic ability equals guaranteed success. The difference between today and back then is team defense. No question LeBron is a force in any era--not dismissing that. I just think the lack of commitment to team defense by today's players is a huge factor in his success. The lack of rotation is why it looks so easy for him at times.

6/7/13   |   jaysinw   |   4954 respect

To say that Rodman is expected to carry the MJ banner is more laughable then those who think LeBron would be a force back in the '80s or '90s. Roman who has shown he walks to the beat of his own drum, which was pointed out in the authors article, so to claim he has to carry the MJ banner  just shows the bias of some. Lebron is flopping now because the league allows it, wait did Reggie Miller flob back when he played? He was not the only one doing it either. Still LeBron is big and strong let him go to the lane with Rodman, Mason, Oakley, Rambis, Worthy, Barkley, Laimbeer, just to name a few and you would see him stop. He would play more to that style, but in no way would he be consider a superstar and be compared to MJ as he is now. Let Jordan, Payton, Pippen, Person, guard Lebron out on the line and you would see a drop in points scored. I would put Miller on him, I am sure Miller would drive him crazy by half time like he used to do to John Starks.

Call Roman crazy, even outside of his prime I bet he come get at least 20 rebounds in 5 game out of a seven game series with the Miami Heat of now. Who would stop him???

6/7/13   |   Trokspot   |   65 respect

^ if you transport this LeBron as is, back to the 80s-90s, then yes, the physical play would probably bother him for a bit. But he would adjust pretty quickly. Let's not forget that LeBron is bigger and stronger than most dudes...he has picked up the flopping and soft style of play because it works to his advantage in today's NBA.

If he grew up during that era, then he'd be accustomed to that style of play and wouldn't think twice about it. He'd still be bigger and stronger than most dudes so he'd actually be allowed to bang back, which you could argue would actually make him better back then than he actually is today. Something to consider...

6/7/13   |   MortonsLaw   |   156 respect

I do think LeBron would not respond well to the physical play back then. He clearly didn't like the way the Bulls played against him this year. The Pistons and Knicks from back then would treat him far worse than he has ever seen present day. I could see Rodman mind F***ing him to the point where he wanted nothing to do with the game.