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11/4/08
Derek Jeter Is The Worst Fielder In Baseball, And It's A Fact
Jeter Apologists Continue To Try To Justify Their Overrated Shortstop, Despite Factual Evidence That He Sucks
Last offseason, the University of Pennsylvania pored over piles of data and hoards of information, and concluded that Derek Jeter was one of, if not THE worst fielding shortstop in baseball. Of course, the New York media and Jeter's teammates immediately jumped to his defense (pun intended), and tried (unsuccessfully) to refute the facts.

This year, it's happening all over again. Nothing has changed, and the beloved Yankees captain is still the worst shortstop in baseball. But this year, he holds the ignominious distinction of being not only the worst shortstop in the league, he has also claimed the title of worst FIELDER in all of baseball.

Much like last year, Jeter's media groupies in the New York Post have jumped in with their ridiculously biased and subjective opinions that fly in the face of all facts and research. Last year, Jeter blamed the results not on his horrendous range, but on a computer glitch. This year, Justin Terranova of the New York Post reported the story with a bit of an incredulous tone.

The best part, however, isn't in the article. The even better part is in the comments, where desperate Yankees fans try to cling on to the false fantasies that their mancrush is still a competent fielder. Some mention the rings that the Yankees won 8+ years ago. Others bring up the gold gloves that Jeter won, without noting that he only won them after the Yankees mistakenly moved Alex Rodriguez, a far superior fielder, to third base to allow Jeter to remain in the position that he fields with such consistent mediocrity. Or the fact that Rafael Palmeiro won a gold glove in 1999, when he played only 28 games at first base, which shows how much of a crock the gold glove voting process really is.

It's also hilarious to hear people who say they've seen every single Yankees game, and that qualifies them to judge Jeter's defensive prowess compared to the rest of the league, completely discarding the fact that these researchers looked at EVERY SINGLE batted ball in the major leagues this year. I'm sure that these "unbiased" folks who just HAPPENED to catch every single Yankees game are more qualified to compare Jeter to the guys who spent months breaking down every single play for every team, based on every possible measurable stat. Ridiculous.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Derek Jeter is the most overrated player in baseball. And now the proof is in the numbers.


'Worst' Fielder In Majors [Ny Post]
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11/4/08
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(Edited by MikeyJ61585)
I dont wanna waste too much of my time replying to ur comments, so Ill just say that you are a moron and move on with my life.

11/4/08
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(Edited by MikeyJ61585)
I dont wanna waste too much of my time replying to ur comments, so Ill just say that you are a moron and move on with my life.

11/4/08
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MikeyJ61585 wrote:
I dont wanna waste too much of my time replying to ur comments, so Ill just say that you are a moron and move on with my life.
Thank you for further proving my point. Typical Yankees fan, disregarding all facts, logic and statistic, and resorting to personal attacks, since you have absolutely nothing intelligent to contribute.

Thanks. Because of people like you, I know I'm right.

11/4/08
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I am not a big baseball fan but I have a pretty decent idea of what goes on.

I think statistically Jeter is a tad on the overrated side but the intangibles he brings make up for it in the eyes of Yankee fans. Jeter may be over rated as a fielder but he is still a very good baseball player.

11/4/08
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(Edited by 100%InjuryRate)
Jubanator14 wrote:
I am not a big baseball fan but I have a pretty decent idea of what goes on.

I think statistically Jeter is a tad on the overrated side but the intangibles he brings make up for it in the eyes of Yankee fans. Jeter may be over rated as a fielder but he is still a very good baseball player.
Yeah that's fine, but the guy sucks as a fielder. This is about the 87th study out there proving what a garbage fielder he is. The fact that he has any Gold Gloves is a crime against humanity.

Think of it this way, who would you rather have at shortstop, strictly from a defensive perspective - Jeter or Khalil Greene. Greene will make more errors, but he'll get to about 80 more balls - at minimum - per season. Those are a lot of extra outs.

11/4/08
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Great post, Pat. Not only did dispell the myth that Jeter is a good SS, you was able to get the blind Yankee homer to come up with a compelling arguement that he is good, oh wait there is no argument that jeter is a good SS, so they will call you names. You sure hit the head on that nail.

11/4/08
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Jubanator14 wrote:
I am not a big baseball fan but I have a pretty decent idea of what goes on.

I think statistically Jeter is a tad on the overrated side but the intangibles he brings make up for it in the eyes of Yankee fans. Jeter may be over rated as a fielder but he is still a very good baseball player.
Or maybe Yankees fans are just delusional.

11/4/08
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Let me start by saying I am a rabid Yankees hater. Despite that, I would have Jeter on my team because the guy is a winner. I just wouldn't have him playing shortstop.

11/5/08
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This idea that certain players are "winners", especially in a sport like baseball, is just ridiculous.  Jeter is a very good hitter and a horrendous defender.  They didn't win those titles because of him.  They won those titles with him.

11/5/08
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A few years ago computers said that Rocky Marciano would have beaten Ali in a heavyweight bout.  I was a great fan of Rocky but that's rediculous.  My faith in computers to judge athletic talents is very low.  You might also remember that pcs are only as intelligent as those who are operating them.  Jeter may not be the best but the worst...not a chance.  Your bias toward the Yanks is obviously distorting your good judgement.

11/5/08
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Any idea why only 02'-05' stats were used in this study? Perhaps including '06, '07, and '08 would have produced different results? Either way, I'd take any of the five guys on my team at the bottom of the list provided.

11/5/08
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nebo wrote:
A few years ago computers said that Rocky Marciano would have beaten Ali in a heavyweight bout.  I was a great fan of Rocky but that's rediculous.  My faith in computers to judge athletic talents is very low.  You might also remember that pcs are only as intelligent as those who are operating them.  Jeter may not be the best but the worst...not a chance.  Your bias toward the Yanks is obviously distorting your good judgement.
It's funny how people continue to point to bias when they try to dispute stuff like this. How could bias possibly play into this, when it is based purely on statistical analysis?

11/5/08
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TheChad81578 wrote:
Any idea why only 02'-05' stats were used in this study? Perhaps including '06, '07, and '08 would have produced different results? Either way, I'd take any of the five guys on my team at the bottom of the list provided.
I should have clarified, with the picture. That particular chart is from the Penn survey that was taken from last year. There was not a graphic like that for this years chart.

11/5/08
2
You sound like you need a hug and a kiss.

11/5/08
2
Pat wrote:
It's funny how people continue to point to bias when they try to dispute stuff like this. How could bias possibly play into this, when it is based purely on statistical analysis?
you do realize that you can mend stats so that they suit your needs right? Like when you see a commercial for toothpaste and it says 4 out of 5 dentists recomend it. They could have literally found 5 dentists and 4 of them recomend it...but it doesn't mean that 80% of all dentists recomend that toothpaste.

This stat has been mended...firstly it is only from 02-05. Take a good guess why. Secondly the formula they give is not even a formula....it's a description of what the formula concludes but doesn't tell you how they arrived at that answer.

11/5/08
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(Edited by nebo)
Well Pat , I'm glad I was able to lighten your morning with a laugh.   Bias always play a part in our opinions even with statistics.  That's human nature.  Statistics depend on how they were fed into the pc and how we receive them.  There is no such thing as being completely objective even for these people who prepared these statistics.  We will never agree on this so I'm out after I read your reply. Have a great one.

11/5/08
1
chad_is_god wrote:
you do realize that you can mend stats so that they suit your needs right? Like when you see a commercial for toothpaste and it says 4 out of 5 dentists recomend it. They could have literally found 5 dentists and 4 of them recomend it...but it doesn't mean that 80% of all dentists recomend that toothpaste.

This stat has been mended...firstly it is only from 02-05. Take a good guess why. Secondly the formula they give is not even a formula....it's a description of what the formula concludes but doesn't tell you how they arrived at that answer.
Please read my comment in response to Chad81578.

If you people would read the articles linked in the blog, instead of just taking my word for it, then it would make it a little less confusing for you.

11/5/08
1
nebo wrote:
Well Pat , I'm glad I was able to lighten your morning with a laugh.   Bias always play a part in our opinions even with statistics.  That's human nature.  Statistics depend on how they were fed into the pc and how we receive them.  There is no such thing as being completely objective even for these people who prepared these statistics.  We will never agree on this so I'm out after I read your reply. Have a great one.
Quite frankly, we don't have to agree. I'm basing my statements on fact, and UNBIASED statistical analysis. The conclusion that this study came to, was based on results derived from analyzing every single batted ball in Major League Baseball last year, and it was determined that Derek Jeter cost his team more runs in the field than anyone else in baseball.

You can say that these people were biased, or lacked objectivity, but the facts would say differently. These are people whose lives are invested in statistical analysis, and they have more interest in the numbers themselves than who they benefit.

Yankees fans (and/or apologists) will say anything to try to discredit things like this, EXCEPT give valid reasons why or how it could possibly be wrong. Why is this? Because they simply don't have anything. Trying to argue against this would be like trying to argue against the Phillies being 2008 World Series champs. You just can't do it, because it's a fact.

11/5/08
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(Edited by Anthonyg7575)
The only question I had in this is...There are guys on here that don't belong on the list. They have Jason Bartlett and between 04-05 he played 82 games, 73 at SS. That's not enough data. Clint Barmes played 113 games between 03-05, 101 at SS. Matsui played 201 games in 04-05, but 110 at SS. Jeter played 589 games and 585 at SS during this timeframe. That's more than almost 1/2 these guys combined on the list. young didn't play SS for the 1st 2 years according to this. Rodriguez didn't play SS the last 2 years...I'm not a Jeter fan and I'm not defending him, but I think this list is horsecrap.

11/5/08
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It's all moot, Pat. You can say whatever you want. You can come up with any of these cute blogs, polls, etc. you want. Derek Jeter will be in the Hall Of Fame when it's all said and done. That's a real fact. I'll take the HOF voters opinions over some Penn number crunchers any day of the week.

11/5/08
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TheChad81578 wrote:
It's all moot, Pat. You can say whatever you want. You can come up with any of these cute blogs, polls, etc. you want. Derek Jeter will be in the Hall Of Fame when it's all said and done. That's a real fact. I'll take the HOF voters opinions over some Penn number crunchers any day of the week.
That's fine. And I'll take Jed Lowrie over Derek Jeter right now.

11/5/08
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Pat wrote:
That's fine. And I'll take Jed Lowrie over Derek Jeter right now.
I might take Jed Lowrie on Monday,Wednesdayand Friday's.  But I would have to take Derek Jeter the rest of the week, because I am sure Alex Cora would be playing SS for the Sox two of those days and maybe Julio Lugo the other two.  Jeter might be terrible in the field, but he's terrible 7 days a week, 162 games a year for the last 12-13 years.

11/5/08
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You crack me up with this crap Pat. I think the best part is that you really believe that this "proves that Jeter sucks". Too funny.

11/5/08
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MattTito23 wrote:
You crack me up with this crap Pat. I think the best part is that you really believe that this "proves that Jeter sucks". Too funny.
An impartial group that does nothing but analyze thousands of plays from every single game has determined that Derek Jeter cost his team more runs than anyone else in baseball.

How can you try to say that it's NOT proof that he sucks? There's really no other way to see it, unless you're buried in the depths of denial.

11/5/08
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huskerdoug2009 wrote:
I might take Jed Lowrie on Monday,Wednesdayand Friday's.  But I would have to take Derek Jeter the rest of the week, because I am sure Alex Cora would be playing SS for the Sox two of those days and maybe Julio Lugo the other two.  Jeter might be terrible in the field, but he's terrible 7 days a week, 162 games a year for the last 12-13 years.
....and Julio Lugo the other 5 will be beating his wife.

11/5/08
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(Edited by Pat)
Pat wrote:
An impartial group that does nothing but analyze thousands of plays from every single game has determined that Derek Jeter cost his team more runs than anyone else in baseball.

How can you try to say that it's NOT proof that he sucks? There's really no other way to see it, unless you're buried in the depths of denial.

Derek Jeter is one of the best fielders in the history of the game Pat!  Just look at some of the catches he has to his credit


11/5/08
4
Pat wrote:
An impartial group that does nothing but analyze thousands of plays from every single game has determined that Derek Jeter cost his team more runs than anyone else in baseball.

How can you try to say that it's NOT proof that he sucks? There's really no other way to see it, unless you're buried in the depths of denial.
The point is its still just a statistic and stats in baseball can be very misleading. I'm not saying the guy is Ozzie Smith with the glove but saying he sucks is just stupid.

11/5/08
1
 i am a die hard yankee fan, and honestly, i dont disagree with this post, i just think its pointless....if it had been written oh....5-10 yrs ago...ok...but jeet is at the end of his career...he has done some pretty spectacular things while in a yankee uniform, and i appreciate all he has done...but time moves on and players get older...fact of life....it just seems to be the wrong time for a post like this....where most yankee fans should agree....we have seen his decline....but the man has a place in baseball history for all the good years....thanks jeet.....!!!!!! How many other players are on the list? Find someone more approprite to re write the article about......this is nothing new!!!!!!

11/5/08
1
huskerdoug2009 wrote:

Derek Jeter is one of the best fielders in the history of the game Pat!  Just look at some of the catches he has to his credit

My question is......why couldn't he keep them?

11/5/08
1
MattTito23 wrote:
The point is its still just a statistic and stats in baseball can be very misleading. I'm not saying the guy is Ozzie Smith with the glove but saying he sucks is just stupid.
Why is it stupid to say he sucks? Care to give me some reasons why he DOESN'T suck as a shortstop? Did you read the article? They didn't just base this off of stats... they watched every single batted ball from last season, and evaluated the fielders based on that.

11/5/08
0
Pat wrote:
Thank you for further proving my point. Typical Yankees fan, disregarding all facts, logic and statistic, and resorting to personal attacks, since you have absolutely nothing intelligent to contribute.

Thanks. Because of people like you, I know I'm right.
imust agree with you 100%

11/5/08
1
 just another frustrated boston fan.......this thread is tired already.....move along!

11/5/08
2
seanrrpsnm wrote:
 just another frustrated boston fan.......this thread is tired already.....move along!
You're right... I'm frustrated. Because my team spends $200M a year in salaries, and hasn't been able to win a World Series since 2000. Oh wait... never mind.

11/5/08
1
 salary means nothing....boston has a huge payroll right behind the yanks....we got ours....you guys got yours....im just tryin to say that the jeter topic is dead dude.....its nothing new.......come up with something better.....

11/5/08
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Pat wrote:
You're right... I'm frustrated. Because my team spends $200M a year in salaries, and hasn't been able to win a World Series since 2000. Oh wait... never mind.
Wow, a whole 8 years without a title. How quickly Sox fans can dismiss the fact the you sucked for 86 years. 26 titles to 7 titles. Jeter, guaranteed HOFer. Good day sir.

11/5/08
0
TheChad81578 wrote:
Wow, a whole 8 years without a title. How quickly Sox fans can dismiss the fact the you sucked for 86 years. 26 titles to 7 titles. Jeter, guaranteed HOFer. Good day sir.
How many times did we lead all of baseball in total salary? Certainly not every single year, like the Yankees have done for over a decade. You guys SHOULD be good... but you're not. And it's because of overpaid stiffs like Jeter. It's hilarious how you are all so clueless, and don't even realize Cashman and Steinbrenner are running your franchise into the ground.

11/5/08
3
The Red Sox had the second highest payroll in baseball in '06 and they missed the playoffs. It happens man. The Yankees have the money so they spend the money. All it's gotten them recently is 13 straight years of making the playoffs. 9 straight A.L. East titles. 90 wins 9 out 10 seasons. 4 titles in 5 years. The Yankees are so bad and have been for so long. You're right. Jeter is accomplishing things that only a handful of other shortstops in history have done. You can't argue with the number he has put up over his career. Actually I bet YOU can. All other sane people can't. I can't wait for the day that Jeter and The Boss get elected to the HOF. I hope you cry.

11/5/08
1
 he just keeps ranting over and over.....its one thing to make a point and have an argument over it...u argue your side....others argue their side.....then all is out and you move on to the next subject....your embarrasing yourself by repeating this over and over.....we know how ya feel about derek jeter....we know that when he came in as a rookie the red sox fans would have much rather had him at short than your wonderboy nomar......jeter has earned his money...and he has his championships to show for it......no one expected us to win a championship every single year for the last 13 years ok.....it come s nad it goes.....it has gone, but is on its way back!

11/5/08
2
Pat wrote:
Why is it stupid to say he sucks? Care to give me some reasons why he DOESN'T suck as a shortstop? Did you read the article? They didn't just base this off of stats... they watched every single batted ball from last season, and evaluated the fielders based on that.
This must be a lonely, boring group of people....

11/5/08
2
seanrrpsnm wrote:
 salary means nothing....boston has a huge payroll right behind the yanks....we got ours....you guys got yours....im just tryin to say that the jeter topic is dead dude.....its nothing new.......come up with something better.....
Salary does mean nothing, the Rays with the lowest payroll in the AL beat BOTH y'alls teams....Any team can have the highest payroll. It's whether or not the players gel as a team. Having a star studded ego team is not always the best thing.

11/5/08
1
Anthonyg7575 wrote:
Salary does mean nothing, the Rays with the lowest payroll in the AL beat BOTH y'alls teams....Any team can have the highest payroll. It's whether or not the players gel as a team. Having a star studded ego team is not always the best thing.
That being said... if you have a great team with a low payroll, you have a great GM. If you have a mediocre team with a huge payroll, you have failed miserably.

11/5/08
0
Anthonyg7575 wrote:
Salary does mean nothing, the Rays with the lowest payroll in the AL beat BOTH y'alls teams....Any team can have the highest payroll. It's whether or not the players gel as a team. Having a star studded ego team is not always the best thing.
 thats probably the best statement in this thread! well......and the yanks have proven that....it was tough to watch it all come apart.....and with ol hank and cash......welll all i can do is keep my fingers crossed and hope we head in the right direction over the break!

11/5/08
1
seanrrpsnm wrote:
 thats probably the best statement in this thread! well......and the yanks have proven that....it was tough to watch it all come apart.....and with ol hank and cash......welll all i can do is keep my fingers crossed and hope we head in the right direction over the break!
What the Yankees need to do is stop wasting their money on old washed up free agents. Get some younger talent, there are lots out there. I personally think that Sabathia would be better off staying in the NL. I do think they should try and go after Burnett considering he opted out of his contract today.

11/5/08
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Anthonyg7575 wrote:
My question is......why couldn't he keep them?
would you keep them if you knew you could have a shot every night with a random hot NY chic? hellll noooo lol

11/5/08
1
chad_is_god wrote:
would you keep them if you knew you could have a shot every night with a random hot NY chic? hellll noooo lol
Uhhh... yes. Maybe if he tried sticking with one girl, he wouldn't have gotten herpes.

11/5/08
0
Pat wrote:
Uhhh... yes. Maybe if he tried sticking with one girl, he wouldn't have gotten herpes.
so wut now ur going to attack his personal life too? look just because a guy who just so happens to have a few gold gloves...dates hot women...and plays for a team that infact you dispise...is/are no reason(s) for you to attack him...its very clear to the unbias and untrained eye that jeter is not the worst defensive short stop...that doesn't mean he's the best either...it just means that you seriously are on some good stuff if you honestly take these MENDED stats that seriously!

11/7/08
0
by the way pat...if these numbers really prove anything...then how come the ranked #55 defensive SS (according to these ridiculous stats) just won a gold glove....i dont see you complaining about that!

11/7/08
0
chad_is_god wrote:
by the way pat...if these numbers really prove anything...then how come the ranked #55 defensive SS (according to these ridiculous stats) just won a gold glove....i dont see you complaining about that!
Those particular numbers from that chart are from 2002-2005, not 2008.

And if you would really like to discuss THIS year's Gold Glove winners, this is the place.

11/7/08
0
Pat wrote:
Those particular numbers from that chart are from 2002-2005, not 2008.

And if you would really like to discuss THIS year's Gold Glove winners, this is the place.

Trust me...I'm well aware....but does that mean you believe that Young is the second worst defensive SS in baseball?


11/7/08
0
chad_is_god wrote:

Trust me...I'm well aware....but does that mean you believe that Young is the second worst defensive SS in baseball?

I believe that there is strong evidence that he was, from 2002-2005.

I'm still wondering why you're questioning what I "believe". It's got nothing to do with my opinion, your opinion, or anyone else's. These researchers presented concrete facts, plain and simple. It really doesn't matter what ANY of us "believe".

1/29/09
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This is ridiculous. Jeter has done a fine job at shortstop. He's probably the best shortstop the game has ever seen and those "researchers" you speak of, I'll bet(including yourself) are probably haters and/or red soxs fans.Figures....

1/29/09
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sube10 wrote:
This is ridiculous. Jeter has done a fine job at shortstop. He's probably the best shortstop the game has ever seen and those "researchers" you speak of, I'll bet(including yourself) are probably haters and/or red soxs fans.Figures....
"He's probably the best shortstop the game has ever seen"

That's hilarious.

8/6/09
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Pat wrote:
Thank you for further proving my point. Typical Yankees fan, disregarding all facts, logic and statistic, and resorting to personal attacks, since you have absolutely nothing intelligent to contribute.

Thanks. Because of people like you, I know I'm right.
ok buddy. derek jeter has played in a total of 2073 baseball games, and has 211 errors. hanley ramirez has 80 errors in 553 games, jason bartlett has 75 in 523 games, and miguel tejada has 237 errors in 1794 games. all in the allstar game. ramirez is on track to get 300 errors by the time he plays 2073 games, bartlett is on track to get 297 by the time he plays 2073 games and tejada already has more errors than jeter. they were the only allstar shortstops and are all on track to get more errors than jeter. now all of you people who dislike derek jeter because he is on the yankees and kills all of your favorite teams can stop hating on him. theres your facts pat. and just so you know jeter only has  2 seasons where he has more than 20 errors. so shut your mouthes

8/6/09
1
bulldogscatcher wrote:
ok buddy. derek jeter has played in a total of 2073 baseball games, and has 211 errors. hanley ramirez has 80 errors in 553 games, jason bartlett has 75 in 523 games, and miguel tejada has 237 errors in 1794 games. all in the allstar game. ramirez is on track to get 300 errors by the time he plays 2073 games, bartlett is on track to get 297 by the time he plays 2073 games and tejada already has more errors than jeter. they were the only allstar shortstops and are all on track to get more errors than jeter. now all of you people who dislike derek jeter because he is on the yankees and kills all of your favorite teams can stop hating on him. theres your facts pat. and just so you know jeter only has  2 seasons where he has more than 20 errors. so shut your mouthes
Errors aren't the only stat out there. Lots of times, Bartlett makes errors on plays that Jeter doesn't even come close to, so Jeter wouldn't get the error. Nice try, but your incredibly elementary knowledge of a solitary defensive statistic doesn't really mean a damn thing.

8/7/09
0
bulldogscatcher wrote:
ok buddy. derek jeter has played in a total of 2073 baseball games, and has 211 errors. hanley ramirez has 80 errors in 553 games, jason bartlett has 75 in 523 games, and miguel tejada has 237 errors in 1794 games. all in the allstar game. ramirez is on track to get 300 errors by the time he plays 2073 games, bartlett is on track to get 297 by the time he plays 2073 games and tejada already has more errors than jeter. they were the only allstar shortstops and are all on track to get more errors than jeter. now all of you people who dislike derek jeter because he is on the yankees and kills all of your favorite teams can stop hating on him. theres your facts pat. and just so you know jeter only has  2 seasons where he has more than 20 errors. so shut your mouthes
elementary. i dont think that youve ever watched derek jeter play baseball. maybe you should tune into a yankee baseball game and observe the brillian player in which derek jeter is. derek jeter is 34 and has more range than the majority of the shortstops in mlb. you should start watching yankee games. but ur too busy living your lies because jeter is on the yankees and you are cllearly in love with the red sox, so stop watching your garbage nick green and garbage jed lowrie and watch a true shortstop in which is derek jeter

8/7/09
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bulldogscatcher wrote:
elementary. i dont think that youve ever watched derek jeter play baseball. maybe you should tune into a yankee baseball game and observe the brillian player in which derek jeter is. derek jeter is 34 and has more range than the majority of the shortstops in mlb. you should start watching yankee games. but ur too busy living your lies because jeter is on the yankees and you are cllearly in love with the red sox, so stop watching your garbage nick green and garbage jed lowrie and watch a true shortstop in which is derek jeter
Where did I say that Nick Green or Jed Lowrie are any better? Stop trying to put words in my mouth. The bottom line is that you are dreafully and horrifically wrong. Derek Jeter has horrible range, and that has been a problem of his for YEARS now. I can provide statistical proof that Derek Jeter's range over the course of his career has been at or near the bottom of the league, out of all starting shortstops. You can provide nothing but weak attempts at insults to someone who has forgotten more about baseball than you'll ever know. Try again, champ. Jeter is a poor defensive shortstop, no matter how bad you want him to be your hero.

8/14/09
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bulldogscatcher wrote:
elementary. i dont think that youve ever watched derek jeter play baseball. maybe you should tune into a yankee baseball game and observe the brillian player in which derek jeter is. derek jeter is 34 and has more range than the majority of the shortstops in mlb. you should start watching yankee games. but ur too busy living your lies because jeter is on the yankees and you are cllearly in love with the red sox, so stop watching your garbage nick green and garbage jed lowrie and watch a true shortstop in which is derek jeter
now ur a liar. u said and quote that jeter is the worst fielding shortstop in baseball. not putting words in your mouth jus taking your direct words and putting them into my comments

8/14/09
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Pat wrote:
Where did I say that Nick Green or Jed Lowrie are any better? Stop trying to put words in my mouth. The bottom line is that you are dreafully and horrifically wrong. Derek Jeter has horrible range, and that has been a problem of his for YEARS now. I can provide statistical proof that Derek Jeter's range over the course of his career has been at or near the bottom of the league, out of all starting shortstops. You can provide nothing but weak attempts at insults to someone who has forgotten more about baseball than you'll ever know. Try again, champ. Jeter is a poor defensive shortstop, no matter how bad you want him to be your hero.
and i will agree that jeters range is declining but hes not the horrible shortstop that you make him out to be

 
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