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11/27/09
Did Colt McCoy Wrap Up The Heisman With His Performance Against Texas A&M?
Colt McCoy might have just won the Heisman with is performance tonight against the Aggies. McCoy went 24-40 for 302 yards and 4 TDs and rushed 18 times for 176 and  TD. The rushing TD came on a career high 65 yard run right up the middle

I will give some credit to the Aggies; they hung in there and gave Texas a run but J. Johnson's INT in the end zone, a missed field goal and  Marquise Goodwin's 95-yard kickoff return for a TD proved too much to overcome.

Texas has one hurdle left in their quest for the BCS championship when they face Nebraska and Bo Pelini's defense in the Big 12 Championship a week from Saturday.
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11/27/09
9
(Edited by Chief_aka_James)
joshwillis52 wrote:
Hell no McCoy isn't going to win it. I have said the entire season and I stick by my prediction, Mark Ingram will win the Heisman this year. Yes, the media is just looking for a reason to give it to Colt McCoy because he is the only one of the top 3 college QB's without a Heisman Trophy and had a good season last year but had to compete with Tebow and Bradford, but Mark Ingram is by far more deserving to get it. In my opinion, the Heisman race ain't even close this year. Not because of low talent, but because Ingram has just blown everyone else out of the water.
"Ingram has blown everyone else out of the water"? I do watch the games too, so don't use that as an excuse against what the numbers show below.

Rushing Attempts
1. Toby Gerhart, STAN - 282
2. Donald Buckram, UTEP - 251
3. Daniel Thomas, KSU - 247
T4. Montel Harris, BC - 244
T4. Ryan Williams, VT - 244
27. Mark Ingram, ALA - 205

Rushing Yards
1. Donald Buckram, UTEP - 1,569
2. Toby Gerhart, STAN - 1,531
3. Ryan Mathews, FRES - 1,491
4. Mark Ingram, ALA - 1,399
5. Ryan Williams, VT - 1,355

Rushing Yards Per Attempt
1. Colin Kaepernick, NEV - 8.6
2. Vai Taua, NEV - 8.0
3. Luke Lippincott, NEV - 7.7
4. Nic Grigsby, ARIZ - 7.5
5. Jeffery Demps, FLA - 7.1
10. Mark Ingram, ALA - 6.8

Rushing Touchdowns
1. Toby Gerhart, STAN - 23
2. Ricky Dobbs, NAVY - 22
3. Jacquizz Rodgers, ORST - 19
4. Chad Spann, NIU - 18
5. Donald Buckram, UTEP - 17
T20. Mark Ingram, ALA - 12


I have a tough time even thinking that Ingram is the number one RB in the country this year (see: Gerhart, Toby), much less one of the top 3 candidates for the Heisman. Again, "Ingram has just blown everyone else out of the water"?  Pretty ridiculous from where I'm sitting.

11/27/09
0
Wow, a gator fan posted this! I actually might be rooting for Tim Tebow considering the heisman's winner's team has lost the championship most of the time.

11/27/09
0
Let's see what Mark Ingram has to say over the next 8 days!  If he has great games against Awbren and Florida, we might be quoting Lee Corso............."not so fast my friend!"

11/27/09
0
Based on the media reaction it seems that McCoy may have wrapped it up tonight.  He's been on fire for the past month and a half and if he puts up another great game against Nebraska it seems like its his.

11/27/09
2
kantwistaye wrote:
Based on the media reaction it seems that McCoy may have wrapped it up tonight.  He's been on fire for the past month and a half and if he puts up another great game against Nebraska it seems like its his.
Again, let's see what Ingram can do, and if he has a huge game against these last two opponents, especially if they defeat media darling timmy tebow, then it might be a very close race.  SEC champion carries alot of weight, moreso than the Big 12.

11/27/09
0
vantiffin52 wrote:
Again, let's see what Ingram can do, and if he has a huge game against these last two opponents, especially if they defeat media darling timmy tebow, then it might be a very close race.  SEC champion carries alot of weight, moreso than the Big 12.
Ingram is going to have to have 150+ yard days to get back in it.  Whether its fair or not, its likely going to come down to Tebow and McCoy.  The media is looking for reasons to give it to these guys and McCoy has provided it tonight.

11/27/09
1
Hell no McCoy isn't going to win it. I have said the entire season and I stick by my prediction, Mark Ingram will win the Heisman this year. Yes, the media is just looking for a reason to give it to Colt McCoy because he is the only one of the top 3 college QB's without a Heisman Trophy and had a good season last year but had to compete with Tebow and Bradford, but Mark Ingram is by far more deserving to get it. In my opinion, the Heisman race ain't even close this year. Not because of low talent, but because Ingram has just blown everyone else out of the water.

11/27/09
1
I sure hope not I kinda like the kid from boise state.  

11/27/09
0
Kellen Moore boise state yeah thsts the one.

11/27/09
0
(Edited by Dubs)

My jaw dropped when I saw Colt make that 65 yd TD run.   That was awesome!!


11/27/09
9
(Edited by Chief_aka_James)
joshwillis52 wrote:
Hell no McCoy isn't going to win it. I have said the entire season and I stick by my prediction, Mark Ingram will win the Heisman this year. Yes, the media is just looking for a reason to give it to Colt McCoy because he is the only one of the top 3 college QB's without a Heisman Trophy and had a good season last year but had to compete with Tebow and Bradford, but Mark Ingram is by far more deserving to get it. In my opinion, the Heisman race ain't even close this year. Not because of low talent, but because Ingram has just blown everyone else out of the water.
"Ingram has blown everyone else out of the water"? I do watch the games too, so don't use that as an excuse against what the numbers show below.

Rushing Attempts
1. Toby Gerhart, STAN - 282
2. Donald Buckram, UTEP - 251
3. Daniel Thomas, KSU - 247
T4. Montel Harris, BC - 244
T4. Ryan Williams, VT - 244
27. Mark Ingram, ALA - 205

Rushing Yards
1. Donald Buckram, UTEP - 1,569
2. Toby Gerhart, STAN - 1,531
3. Ryan Mathews, FRES - 1,491
4. Mark Ingram, ALA - 1,399
5. Ryan Williams, VT - 1,355

Rushing Yards Per Attempt
1. Colin Kaepernick, NEV - 8.6
2. Vai Taua, NEV - 8.0
3. Luke Lippincott, NEV - 7.7
4. Nic Grigsby, ARIZ - 7.5
5. Jeffery Demps, FLA - 7.1
10. Mark Ingram, ALA - 6.8

Rushing Touchdowns
1. Toby Gerhart, STAN - 23
2. Ricky Dobbs, NAVY - 22
3. Jacquizz Rodgers, ORST - 19
4. Chad Spann, NIU - 18
5. Donald Buckram, UTEP - 17
T20. Mark Ingram, ALA - 12


I have a tough time even thinking that Ingram is the number one RB in the country this year (see: Gerhart, Toby), much less one of the top 3 candidates for the Heisman. Again, "Ingram has just blown everyone else out of the water"?  Pretty ridiculous from where I'm sitting.

11/27/09
0
McCoy has been great. Considering the cupcake schedule that he has had this year, he certainly looks like superman. I say no way

11/27/09
0
Jonesey1980 wrote:
McCoy has been great. Considering the cupcake schedule that he has had this year, he certainly looks like superman. I say no way
Colt McCoy and the Texas Longhorns played nearly the same exact schedule last year when the Big 12 was being considered the best football conference in the nation - you can't blame Texas for other teams not performing the same level as before. Name a school that doesn't have cupcakes on their schedule that isn't in their conference.

11/27/09
0
jiggajones,I agree with you...cupcake schedule....what a truck full of;well you know.  All teams...college and pro have some light weights on their schedules,otherwise the season would last 1 month,6 weeks at best.  No one knows how well or terrible a team is going to play until they play the games...Texas A&M with that quarterback looked pretty darn good to me.  Will be remembering his name and look for him next year and when he is a pro.

11/27/09
0
Colt McCoy has been the best QB in college football for three years, and now it's time for college football fans to recognize that.

11/27/09
0
(Edited by zzj000)

With all do respect Josh..... IF you make the claim that Ingram will win the Heisman based on the numbers .... then I have to say you are tremendously biased and BLIND (thanks Chief for the list). IF a RB wins the award AND it is for numbers and MVP type reasons, then how in the world do not give the award to Toby Gerhart from Stanford? Gerhart has been the most productive back in the country and Stanford would never have been mentioned this year if n not for his accomplishments.

HOWEVER...... I agree with the majority. I think the Heisman voters will GIVE the trophy to Colt McCoy this year. McCoy has had a solid enough season to make the voters feel good about there selection......

Seldom does the award go to the athlete MOST deserveing. And I feel that will be the case again this year. Sorry Gerhart, Keenum and all the other MORE deserving performers out there. I think this will be McCoy's nite at the Downtown Athletic Club. Like it or not.


11/27/09
0
Oh PLEASE, what is with the seldom does the award go to the most deserving?  It like most things in this life...  all in the eye of the beholder... ( notice I say I think) Colt should of won last year then MAYBE someone MORE deserving in your eyes would this year.... I am not saying he is a shoe in but I THINK his play speak for itself...of course NOT ALL of us are going to agree with whom ever does win it.

Same with the National Championship...this team ,that team, what ever team,should of been there instead of. We can all moan and groan and say this way is wrong and that way is right...only thing is this is the system we have and it seems the only one we will have for a very long time.

11/27/09
1
Chief_aka_James wrote:
"Ingram has blown everyone else out of the water"? I do watch the games too, so don't use that as an excuse against what the numbers show below.

Rushing Attempts
1. Toby Gerhart, STAN - 282
2. Donald Buckram, UTEP - 251
3. Daniel Thomas, KSU - 247
T4. Montel Harris, BC - 244
T4. Ryan Williams, VT - 244
27. Mark Ingram, ALA - 205

Rushing Yards
1. Donald Buckram, UTEP - 1,569
2. Toby Gerhart, STAN - 1,531
3. Ryan Mathews, FRES - 1,491
4. Mark Ingram, ALA - 1,399
5. Ryan Williams, VT - 1,355

Rushing Yards Per Attempt
1. Colin Kaepernick, NEV - 8.6
2. Vai Taua, NEV - 8.0
3. Luke Lippincott, NEV - 7.7
4. Nic Grigsby, ARIZ - 7.5
5. Jeffery Demps, FLA - 7.1
10. Mark Ingram, ALA - 6.8

Rushing Touchdowns
1. Toby Gerhart, STAN - 23
2. Ricky Dobbs, NAVY - 22
3. Jacquizz Rodgers, ORST - 19
4. Chad Spann, NIU - 18
5. Donald Buckram, UTEP - 17
T20. Mark Ingram, ALA - 12


I have a tough time even thinking that Ingram is the number one RB in the country this year (see: Gerhart, Toby), much less one of the top 3 candidates for the Heisman. Again, "Ingram has just blown everyone else out of the water"?  Pretty ridiculous from where I'm sitting.
Oh yes, and the numbers mean everything right? The SEC is by far the best conference in college football this year and all of those names you mentioned either play at some small D-1 school where the level of talent isn't near as good or play in the ACC or PAC-10. Everyone knows the ACC isn't that good this year and the PAC-10 is decent but not near the SEC. I just find it really funny how you try saying there are so many better backs than Ingram because of their numbers when on that list you have players from Nevada, UTEP, Navy, and Fresno State. You can't honestly say any of those schools play as tough of a schedule as 'BAMA.

11/27/09
0
zzj000 wrote:

With all do respect Josh..... IF you make the claim that Ingram will win the Heisman based on the numbers .... then I have to say you are tremendously biased and BLIND (thanks Chief for the list). IF a RB wins the award AND it is for numbers and MVP type reasons, then how in the world do not give the award to Toby Gerhart from Stanford? Gerhart has been the most productive back in the country and Stanford would never have been mentioned this year if n not for his accomplishments.

HOWEVER...... I agree with the majority. I think the Heisman voters will GIVE the trophy to Colt McCoy this year. McCoy has had a solid enough season to make the voters feel good about there selection......

Seldom does the award go to the athlete MOST deserveing. And I feel that will be the case again this year. Sorry Gerhart, Keenum and all the other MORE deserving performers out there. I think this will be McCoy's nite at the Downtown Athletic Club. Like it or not.

Like I said in my reply to the other blogger, I don't make my opinion's based on the numbers. I look at what they've done based on the level of talent they play against. In my opinion, the writers are just looking for a reason to give it to McCoy because like I said yesterday, he had a great season last year, but had to compete with Tebow and Bradford. Plus another reason I believe they are trying to give it to him is because he's the only one of the three who doesn't have a Heisman. He has definitely more deserving than Tebow this year, but not Ingram.

11/27/09
0
joshwillis52 wrote:
Like I said in my reply to the other blogger, I don't make my opinion's based on the numbers. I look at what they've done based on the level of talent they play against. In my opinion, the writers are just looking for a reason to give it to McCoy because like I said yesterday, he had a great season last year, but had to compete with Tebow and Bradford. Plus another reason I believe they are trying to give it to him is because he's the only one of the three who doesn't have a Heisman. He has definitely more deserving than Tebow this year, but not Ingram.
I understand your point. But like I SAID.... I dont thing McCoy nor Ingram should be in the Heisman discussion. Unfortunately, that's not how the system works. Very little in college football is based on "true" and "objective" performance. Far too much bias and $$$ involved in the decision making for BCS and HEISMAN to suit me.

11/27/09
1
joshwillis52 wrote:
Oh yes, and the numbers mean everything right? The SEC is by far the best conference in college football this year and all of those names you mentioned either play at some small D-1 school where the level of talent isn't near as good or play in the ACC or PAC-10. Everyone knows the ACC isn't that good this year and the PAC-10 is decent but not near the SEC. I just find it really funny how you try saying there are so many better backs than Ingram because of their numbers when on that list you have players from Nevada, UTEP, Navy, and Fresno State. You can't honestly say any of those schools play as tough of a schedule as 'BAMA.
Oh yes, SEC conferences that are always so much tougher than any other team could possibly ever face. Those current SEC powerhouses that Bama facing Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU, and Tennessee all at home, in the Vols case where Bama barely defeated them (if you watched that game, you'd know as well as anyone that neither team deserved a win there) who combines a record of 26-18. But of course, that's just the dominance of the SEC where all the great teams beat each other up into mediocrity.

Then Alabama had the dreadful, dreadful road SEC games of Kentucky, Mississippi St., Ole Miss, and upcoming Auburn. Again, mediocrity because of SEC's dominance - a combined record of 26-18.

Alabama and Florida are great, great teams in college football this season - SEC as a whole? No where is that dominance and definitely not going to go with your "by far" crap you spewed with your initial Mark Ingram argument, don't rely on the past few years.

Now, once Tennessee can get out of this first year with Kiffin, Auburn/Kentucky/Miss St/Arkansas/South Carolina suddenly recruit a decent class they can be excited about, and Vandy finds a QB, RB, offensive and defensive lines in a classroom doing homework - I'll agree with you.

The SEC is probably still the best conference in football this year, but again, you really have to quit it with this "by far" stuff. It really is close when comparing it to the PAC-10, but I only say that with an open mind - not your "oh, but they're just not as good because it's the SEC".

Stanford's schedule wasn't as difficult? @ Arizona, Oregon, @ USC, Cal in 5 weeks sounds pretty tough to me, but you're right - that's no SEC schedule. Oregon St. @ Corvallis and those easy schools of Wazzu, Washington, Arizona St. I give you are pretty easy teams, they could never compete with those bottom 3/4 SEC teams I mentioned above, SEC is too good.

Nevada plays in the WAC, I'm not going to go completely off today thinking they are in the same realm as the PAC-10 and SEC, but they still are a conference full of very good football teams. Idaho, Fresno St., and coming up Boise St. - as far as difficult games go, I'm counting three there, Bama had what, two? LSU and Ole Miss?

Navy only runs the football, but the triple option does it well and they can do that offense against any football team.

Fresno St., WAC conference, read above.

I will say the Wolfpack and Bulldogs have easily had just as difficult a schedule as Bama to this point - that SEC Championship game does come into play pretty good however, and we'll both see exactly how well your "blown out of the water" Heisman pick does against that Florida defense.

11/27/09
0
zzj000 wrote:
I understand your point. But like I SAID.... I dont thing McCoy nor Ingram should be in the Heisman discussion. Unfortunately, that's not how the system works. Very little in college football is based on "true" and "objective" performance. Far too much bias and $$$ involved in the decision making for BCS and HEISMAN to suit me.
Well, if McCoy or Ingram don't get it then I don't think a Heisman should even be given out this year.

11/27/09
0
zzj000 wrote:
I understand your point. But like I SAID.... I dont thing McCoy nor Ingram should be in the Heisman discussion. Unfortunately, that's not how the system works. Very little in college football is based on "true" and "objective" performance. Far too much bias and $$$ involved in the decision making for BCS and HEISMAN to suit me.
Yea, just for me to be clear as well - while I don't think Ingram should really be in the discussion at all, my vote would definitely go to either Gerhart or Keenum like you had mentioned.

11/27/09
1
joshwillis52 wrote:
Oh yes, and the numbers mean everything right? The SEC is by far the best conference in college football this year and all of those names you mentioned either play at some small D-1 school where the level of talent isn't near as good or play in the ACC or PAC-10. Everyone knows the ACC isn't that good this year and the PAC-10 is decent but not near the SEC. I just find it really funny how you try saying there are so many better backs than Ingram because of their numbers when on that list you have players from Nevada, UTEP, Navy, and Fresno State. You can't honestly say any of those schools play as tough of a schedule as 'BAMA.
The SEC isn't that great. If it was, it would be a more competitive conference, i.e. somebody should be able to beat UF from the SEC if the SEC was so great.

11/27/09
0
joshwillis52 wrote:
Oh yes, and the numbers mean everything right? The SEC is by far the best conference in college football this year and all of those names you mentioned either play at some small D-1 school where the level of talent isn't near as good or play in the ACC or PAC-10. Everyone knows the ACC isn't that good this year and the PAC-10 is decent but not near the SEC. I just find it really funny how you try saying there are so many better backs than Ingram because of their numbers when on that list you have players from Nevada, UTEP, Navy, and Fresno State. You can't honestly say any of those schools play as tough of a schedule as 'BAMA.
SEC isn't that great this year. And while I would love to see Texas get a Heisman, McCoy probably isn't the most deserving player. Chief, you make a helluva argument for Gerhart. Josh, your bias is showing. Gotta love your loyalty, though. Hookem' Horns!

11/27/09
1
The hesiman is going to go to Colt. He got robbed last year. Bradford was great, but McCoy was better.

11/28/09
0
joshwillis52 wrote:
Hell no McCoy isn't going to win it. I have said the entire season and I stick by my prediction, Mark Ingram will win the Heisman this year. Yes, the media is just looking for a reason to give it to Colt McCoy because he is the only one of the top 3 college QB's without a Heisman Trophy and had a good season last year but had to compete with Tebow and Bradford, but Mark Ingram is by far more deserving to get it. In my opinion, the Heisman race ain't even close this year. Not because of low talent, but because Ingram has just blown everyone else out of the water.
I think you should have waited until after the Auburn game to make your prediction. Big players step up in big games. McCoy wins it hands down.

11/28/09
0
Bama game is over...their guy didn't do anything;Gators game is over...he tossed for 3 ran for 2...his numbers don't match up to Colts for the last game going into bowl games...and FL St was never in the game.  Colt's game wins it for him.

11/28/09
0
CowboyFan1 wrote:
Bama game is over...their guy didn't do anything;Gators game is over...he tossed for 3 ran for 2...his numbers don't match up to Colts for the last game going into bowl games...and FL St was never in the game.  Colt's game wins it for him.
And who the fans are voting for on the Nissan site CJ Spiller had only 37 offensive yds but did have a 88 kickoff return.

On that site Tebow is 4th and Colt 5th in the running.... :))

12/1/09
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BluDevil wrote:
The SEC isn't that great. If it was, it would be a more competitive conference, i.e. somebody should be able to beat UF from the SEC if the SEC was so great.
And that is why it is going to be 'Bama next weekend.

12/1/09
0
Lizzo wrote:
SEC isn't that great this year. And while I would love to see Texas get a Heisman, McCoy probably isn't the most deserving player. Chief, you make a helluva argument for Gerhart. Josh, your bias is showing. Gotta love your loyalty, though. Hookem' Horns!
I tend to root for a lot of schools in college football every year considering I'm an IU fan and Notre Dame hasn't done a whole lot in recent years, but I'm not even a 'BAMA fan. In all honesty, I think Ingram should get the Heisman and definitely has my vote.

12/1/09
1
lcsmills wrote:
I think you should have waited until after the Auburn game to make your prediction. Big players step up in big games. McCoy wins it hands down.
It goes to Colt or Gerhart. If Colt rocks Neb. he wins. Tebow is not even the second best QB in college ball.
Ingram is good but not even the 3rd best running back in the nation. I am a LONGHORN and I think the best player should get the Heisman. Shipley in my book should get the Heisman. Name another go to guy. Kick off's , punt returns, catches 97% everything he touches..............Name another.

 
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