Donovan McNabb Tells "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel" Black Quarterbacks Get More Criticism | NFL

5	MrNFL wrote: Why does it always have to be an issue of race for some people? Wouldn't it be nice if people actually realized we are all the same race...the HUMAN race. Because then he wouldn't have something to turn the attention away from his poor play.

9/18/07

Later statement released by WR's present and past of the Eagles. "Well if McNabb could actually throw the ball on a consistent basis to us not over us or behind us and know how to manage us in press coverage we wouldn't be discussing this". "Now would we". "Because he would have a Super Bowl ring more then likely".

Source of statements are still unknown and could just be made up by the writer of this post. But nobody knows for sure.

9/18/07

kantwistaye

0	I agree with McNabb in the sense that, yes, there still is racism. However, McNabb does not get more criticism because he's black, or for any other issue. He isn't accurate and he isn't a leader. If any QB in the league has those issues he's going to get ripped for it. He's lucky he's funny and gives a good quote to media, otherwise he'd be getting it even worse.

9/18/07

Seth

4	While I'm not going to discount what he's saying, but in this specific instance, I think he'd have a lot less criticism if wasn't playing in Philly.

9/18/07

0	Seth wrote: While I'm not going to discount what he's saying, but in this specific instance, I think he'd have a lot less criticism if wasn't playing in Philly. That's about the same thing I was going to say. It doesn't help that he is in Philadelphia, home of some of the most critical fans in the country.

9/18/07

1	Maybe to the media but definately not on the field again.

9/18/07

Sharp Square

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It's all the white mans fault , the white man is the soul reason why Mcflop doesnt have multi superbowl rings and tons more tv time. Im just about sick of hearing him pull the race card in one manner or another everytime he opens his mouth. I am starting to have as little respect for him as bonds or T.O..

shut the F*** up and play football , im sure its not the white man who made a league in which you make millions per season playing in , nah no cedit needed there. Even if there is another standard in some shape way or form somewhat, using it to gain attention to yourself is pretty pathetic and every time donny boy feels needed and wants some tv time he pulls this bull.

Why dont we talk about why the eagles are 0-2 , oh wait im sure its the white man holding yall down once again. I should of known !

ok rant is over lol this guy has just gotten so old wit this stuff !

9/18/07

0	What a moron. Maybe he should try hitting his open WR's. Last I checked Grossman is white. He is on a team that wins and gets criticism. McNabb needs to shut up and get me some fantasy points.

9/18/07

2	Why does it always have to be an issue of race for some people? Wouldn't it be nice if people actually realized we are all the same race...the HUMAN race.

9/18/07

5	MrNFL wrote: Why does it always have to be an issue of race for some people? Wouldn't it be nice if people actually realized we are all the same race...the HUMAN race. Because then he wouldn't have something to turn the attention away from his poor play.

9/18/07

0	(Edited by Flousc)

9/18/07

0	kappafla211 wrote: Because then he wouldn't have something to turn the attention away from his poor play. Ding Ding Ding! What does he win folks?

9/18/07

0	If racism was really an issue, and black QB's get more criticisms than anyone, then how come Vince Young gets treated like the greatest QB of all time when he can't even complete 50% of his passes? Any game the Titans win, people start saying "Oh, Vince Young won this game." Even last year, he could complete 40%, throw 2 INTs, and have 30 rushing yards in a win and it's still "VY is a god!!"

9/18/07

After watching last night and not being able to beat a team that played press coverage almost the whole game. You can't say he is a great QB especially in the class of Peyton, Carson, or Tom. When these guys play bad and get booed they don't say it is the black fans that are booing me because I'm white. No they say hey I play bad I deserve to be booed. Then on top of it playing in Philly. Charles said it best last night. Does he deserve a little less heat for what he has done in Philly? Yes. Will he get it NO, because Philly fans are all about what have you done for me today and who cares about yesterdays accomplishments. In the sports world where you are paid millions to be a star of your team you need to learn to have tougher skin or retire. Period.

Do I think McNabb is good? Yes but not comparable to Manning. Not even in the same sentence. Even Marino the king of the Miami Dolphins in the minds of a lot of Dolphins fans was booed when he and the offense consistently played poorly.

9/18/07

0	Last year, any game the Titans lost (By the way, the Titans lose/win games, not the QB) he didn't get any critizism at all. Those losses for them last year were blamed all on everyone else, even if he stunk too.

9/18/07

0	Well said Kappa. It's stupid that anyone plays the race card anyhow, and I'll leave it at that. Your team plays well, you get less criticism. You play medicore, and your team is 0-2, your gonna get yelled at. It's the nature of the beast.

9/18/07

Well McNabb hasn't looked any better than Grossman through 2 games so far. Anyway, how about a better example. Before last season, all people said about Manning was that he couldn't win the big one, even though he was clearly one of, if not, the best QB's in the NFL. Now all of a sudden he can do no wrong now that he has a ring. Maybe McNabb should win a ring then he could get a free pass when he looks like crap. Oh, did I mention Peyton is white?

9/18/07

Flousc wrote:

I don't know that I've ever seen Manning play like crap. It seems that even when he doesn't have a great game his team finds a way to win.

9/18/07

0	I'm sure this will get some people all in an uproar but how is this any different than what Rush Limbaugh said about him last year?

9/18/07

Scott

Philly fans may be critical, but they are also die-hard and hungry for success, especially after McNabb led them to 3 straight NFC championships and then the Super Bowl. Philadelphia has high expectations and when you're the quarterback and star of the team, you'll have to face the critics when you or your team is struggling, especially in the watered down NFC. To be honest, McNabb isnt the quarterback he once was and that's due to a decline in himself and the team he plays on. This is a personal performance issue and not a race issue, as Jason pointed out other quarterbacks who've faced harsh criticism throughout there NFL careers. Guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning wont face the criticism as the others, because they are winners in this day and age. What's the old saying....what have you done for me lately??

9/18/07

3	PETA doesn't like Michael Vick because he's black.

9/18/07

0	ary201 wrote: PETA doesn't like Michael Vick because he's black. I know your kidding so I won't give you a PQ. You can have this instead

9/18/07

Scott wrote:

Agreed. In all honesty, I'm so effin tired of hearing him bring up race. I'm two hares before I start calling for the backups. He's started off the season absolutely horrible. This is going to be a long season, and I think it may just be time to worry about the future. Face the facts. Mcnabb is starting off bad, given he could come back, but I still think he's so worried about his knee way too much. Our D is a little old on the line and Dawkins, so maybe it's time to start-a-draftin.

9/18/07

0	ary201 wrote: PETA doesn't like Michael Vick because he's black. Totally different subject. I don't see Mcnabb facing charges for killing dogs?

9/18/07

Adam wrote:

Totally different subject. I don't see Mcnabb facing charges for killing dogs?

Just a joke.

I know, poor taste. I couldn't help myself.

I think this whole Donavan McNabb topic is laughable. We all can come up with a few instances where the media and fans fall in love with a black QB and they totally rag on a white QB.

Remember in 2004 when Vick and McNabb both made it to the NFC Championship? It was a total lovefest.

9/18/07

0	I'll give him this, his receivers are pathetic.

9/18/07

1	I do not recall Warren Moon using the race card while being criticized.

9/18/07

0	See this is where I disagree. He is WAY I mean WAY slower than years before. I know he's getting older but he can't even out run D-Linemen. And he's so cautious of it. He limps anychance he can get. In all honesty, the knee brace may be doing him more harm then good.

9/18/07

0	(Edited by Adam) shschill wrote: I do not recall Warren Moon using the race card while being criticized.

9/18/07

kantwistaye

Adam wrote:

See this is where I disagree. He is WAY I mean WAY slower than years before. I know he's getting older but he can't even out run D-Linemen. And he's so cautious of it. He limps anychance he can get. In all honesty, the knee brace may be doing him more harm then good.

Yeah but without that knee brace he takes another hit and is probably done for, as in season and career. He is screwed with this knee injury because his effectiveness takes a big skydive when he can't run around.

9/18/07

0	kantwistaye wrote: Yeah but without that knee brace he takes another hit and is probably done for, as in season and career. He is screwed with this knee injury because his effectiveness takes a big skydive when he can't run around. Maybe its worth the risk.

9/18/07

2	It took Carson Palmer a year to recover from his knee injury. McNabb is older so it will take a bit longer. It was a bad injury especially for a QB.

9/19/07

Rockchawk13

Well on MNF The Eagles lost to the Redskins and both QBs were black. Both were marginal performers at best. Campbell was basicaly given a pass because he performed well on 3rd downs and down the stretch. McNabb was criticized because he didn't do those things and he was inaccurate all night. I know his WRs are questionable, but if the ball is thrown as bad as McNabb threw on MNF, Jerry Rice couldn't have helped.

9/19/07

2	shschill wrote: It took Carson Palmer a year to recover from his knee injury. McNabb is older so it will take a bit longer. It was a bad injury especially for a QB. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Carson Palmer get injured during the first playoff game of the 2005 season? And he played the first game of the 2006 season?

9/19/07

ary201 wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Carson Palmer get injured during the first playoff game of the 2005 season? And he played the first game of the 2006 season?

You are correct. He is also younger. He looked better as the season progressed. When he played the Pats in week 4 or 5 you could tell there were some lingering effects from the injury. His stats were good but his third receiver is better than the Eagles first, so that helps. I am not making excuses for McNabb. But it was a serious injury for any one let alone a QB. He had very poor accuracy and that could be a result form the injury he endure last season.

9/19/07

shschill wrote:

I don't believe he was ever that accurate. The only season he topped 60% accuracy was when he had TO in 2004. He just looked extra-inaccurate on MNF I suppose.

9/19/07

0	Yeah, completion percentage.

9/19/07