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5/8/08
Edinson Volquez Throws 118 Pitches In Reds 9-0 Blowout
Dusty Doesn't Care for Your Silly Pitch Count Concerns, Dude
Picking on Reds manager Dusty Baker the day after they pummeled my Cubs is going to sound like sour grapes, but I promise you it's not.

I'm just looking out for a great young pitcher who appears subjected to what Dusty does best - ignore pitch counts and mismanage a staff.

Reds rookie Johnny Cueto has the nastiest stuff of the two young pitchers, but Edinson Volquez, filthy in his own right, has been hitting his spots better to the tune of an NL-leading 1.06 ERA. When the season began and we started to get a glimpse of how great these two pitchers could be, we became immediately concerned for their future. Surely, Dusty's impact would ruin them down the line.

Look no further than Wednesday's mismanagement of Volquez.

Edinson, 24, had just finished a 5th inning where he threw 25 pitches and sported a 5-0 lead. Cinci added two more runs to give the right-hander who came over from Texas a seven run cushion in a game where the Cubs clearly had nothing going.

What does Dusty do? Send Volquez out for another inning and drives his pitch count up to 118. There's no logical explanation for that other than simply, just Dusty being Dusty. The Reds have an off day today, so the 'bullpen needed a rest' reasoning has no merit.

Worst of all, that's Edinson's fifth straight outing with 100 or more pitches. I'm all for 'win now,' but with the Reds sitting at the bottom of the National League standings it's worth taking your best pitcher out an inning earlier than you normally would with a veteran.

Maybe this kid has a rubber arm, and I sure as hell hope he does, but I'm not liking the early trend of pitch counts in Cincinnati. It might not effect Baker's tenure, but the next manager is likely to inherit some brilliant, but damaged arms.
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WTF? Volquez turns 25 in a couple weeks and has been in the majors for four years.  That's not 'young' by major league stud standards.  How long do you propose they baby him?  Cueto is 22 himself.  You'd have a case if these kids were still teenagers, and Cueto should still be tempered a bit, but they've been in different levels of the bigs long enough to have the arm strength to do it.
WTF? The average age of a MLB pitcher bounces between 29 and 30. I'd say 4-5 younger than that is considered "young."

And by being in baseball for four years, he only has a total of 17 career starts prior to this season. So this being his first full workload, I'd say it's pretty important to consider pitch counts. As we've seen from just about every young pitcher who was overworked, their arm quickly deteriorates. Dusty should know from history.
 
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I got him and Cliff Lee on my fantasy team..lookin good!
 
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In there first full season starting in the Majors -- here's how many 100+ outings for those players you mentioned (since you asked):

Beckett (age 22) - 6 out 21 starts did he pitch over 100, most were limited to around 75. When Beckett was 24, he only pitched over 100+ 7 times in 26 starts. Most in the 80s.

Brandon Webb (age 34) - pitched over 100+ in 11 of his 28 starts. When on to struggle in his second season. Just because it's interesting to me, it's worth noting Brandon Webb has only pitched more than 118 pitches once in his career.

Jake Peavy (age 23) had a lot of high pitch counts in losing efforts, went over 120 a couple times. The next season, age 24, his average pitch counts went down by 10-15 pitches and he ended up 15-6.

There's plenty other variables involved here, and we chose three of the best pitchers in baseball here. History has proven it's better for most pitchers if they keep pitch counts low during their first couple seasons as a full-time starter. We could look up countless other pitchers who were highlight touted and had heavy workloads early and faded.
 
 
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