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10/14/08
Eli Manning And The New York Giants Are Back To Business As Usual
Eli Manning Has Re-Opened The Bakery. His Turnovers Are To Die For, And He Has Enough To Go Around
Eli Manning new york giants super bowl interception overrated turnover QB quarterback NFL football loss cleveland browns MVP peyton is betterBefore Week 6, the Giants were on top of the world. Eli Manning was being annointed "The Better Manning" and was involved in premature MVP discussions. The Giants were fresh off a Super Bowl ring, and had won 8 straight games, dating back to the playoffs last year. Plaxico Burress was ready to focus after his one-game suspension, and the Giants had actually proved against the Seahawks that they could even win big without Plax, if they needed to. Things were looking up for the Giants.

However, one game against the hungry and struggling Cleveland Browns may have brought the Giants back to a very harsh reality, and some very ominous truths that have been hidden by a few good weeks at the end of last season, and a very weak schedule at the beginning of this one.

1) Deep down inside, Eli Manning is still a turnover machine.
2) The losses of Osi Umenyiora and Michael Strahan have affected this Giants' pass rush more than they thought.
3) The Giants simply aren't the wonderful team that everyone thought they were, when they started the season 4-0.

eli manning interception new york giants cleveland browns nfl football monday night MNFIn their loss to the Browns, it seemed as though Eli Manning reverted back to the Eli Manning that we knew and loved for 3+ seasons, when he averaged more than an interception per game, as opposed to the QB who threw 6 TD passes and only 1 INT in the first 4 games. But was there really any sort of transformation? Did Eli really start playing well, or was it just statistical variation? Have the Giants really been playing that well this year, or have they just been playing a weak schedule?

The weak schedule claim is a very strong one:

Week 1 - The Giants opened the season against the Redskins. Although the Redskins looked good during their 4-game winning streak from Week 2 to Week 5, they still lost to the Rams in Week 6. Their loss to the Giants was their first regular season game under new coach Jim Zorn's offensive system, and Jason Campbell looked about as bad as any QB could. He was lost in the new system, and it clearly took him a little while to get the hang of it. And then they lost to the Rams. As good as the Redskins have looked at times, a loss to the Rams speaks volumes. Very bad volumes. Although the Giants won the game, their 16 points scored is still less than the 19 that the Redskins allow in an average game.

new york giants eli manning marc bulger justin tuck fred robbins st louis rams steven jackson NFLWeek 2 - The Giants visited the aforementioned Rams. The Rams have the most generous defense in all of football, averaging 32.8 points allowed per game. Before somehow holding the Redskins to only 17 points, the Rams were allowing an obscene 37.25 points per game.

Week 3 - This was the first sign that the Giants might not be as good as people wanted to believe. The Bengals took them into overtime, but the Giants ended up winning 26-23. The Bengals are still winless, but the Giants were the team that gave the Bengals their best chance. The rest of their 6 losses were by at least a touchdown.

Week 4 - Bye.

new york giants amani toomer eli manning seattle seahawksWeek 5 - This was the week where the Giants removed all doubt, in many people's minds. Many were fooled by the 44-6 beating that they put on the Seahawks. This was a team that had made the playoffs 5 years in a row, and had won their division in each of the past 4 years. However, this Seattle team is definitely a shell of their former selves. They are 4th worst in the NFL, allowing an average of over 30 points per game, and their offense has been stagnant all year. They have only scored more than 17 points once so far, and that was in a 33-30 loss to the 2-4 49ers. Simply put, the Seahawks are not a good team this year. Also, Seahawks QB Matt Hasselbeck spent much of that game hobbled by a hyperextended knee, and was clearly not his normal self.

Can the Giants still make the playoffs? Certainly. They're still 4-1, and their division has been struggling as of late. But are they the Super Bowl favorites that everyone thought they were? Certainly not.

When they intercepted 3 Eli Manning passes and beat the Giants by 3 TD's, the Cleveland Browns began what will be a season-long process of expelling the myth of the New York Giants' greatness. Don't look for a Super Bowl repeat, because this Giants team simply isn't good enough.
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The Giants, in all honesty, have had a pretty easy schedule so far. They were also lucky to get the Skins in week 1.

Titans are going 16-0. I can feel it.

10/14/08
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(Edited by JacksColdSweat)
I don't know about the Titans going 16-0, but I thought the Giants were going to go further than they did w/o a loss. But it goes to show that every team can be beat by any team at this level.

10/14/08
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Pat, business as usual?  You mean whooping the Pats in the Superbowl? 

I see where you are coming from but isn't this a bit premature?  You know the Giants had many games like last night last year and ended up shooting that slingshot and taking Goliath down on the biggest stage.  I suggest you wait a little longer before writing off the Giants.  This is a very good team that had a very bad night.  It happens.  Any Given Sunday.  And the Browns, they are a solid team that came to play.  They are no slouch and I am willing to bet the rest of the season will prove that. 

10/14/08
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bobjrinaz wrote:
Pat, business as usual?  You mean whooping the Pats in the Superbowl? 

I see where you are coming from but isn't this a bit premature?  You know the Giants had many games like last night last year and ended up shooting that slingshot and taking Goliath down on the biggest stage.  I suggest you wait a little longer before writing off the Giants.  This is a very good team that had a very bad night.  It happens.  Any Given Sunday.  And the Browns, they are a solid team that came to play.  They are no slouch and I am willing to bet the rest of the season will prove that. 
If "whooping the Pats in the Super Bowl" means winning by less than a TD on the luckiest play in SB history, after being behind up until the last minute of the game, then sure. I suppose that's what happened.

10/14/08
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Pat wrote:
If "whooping the Pats in the Super Bowl" means winning by less than a TD on the luckiest play in SB history, after being behind up until the last minute of the game, then sure. I suppose that's what happened.
Total Yards on the ground. Giants 91 Pats 45.  Total Yards in the air Giants 247 Pats 229.  Sacks Giants 5 Pats 3.  Final Score Giants 17 Pats 14. 

Luckiest Play is what is always called from a fan on the losing team.  You tell me how Eli with more heart than at least 4 Patriots defenders was able to scramble away and keep a play alive that should have been dead.  Then after that tell me how David Tyree showed more heart and WANTING it more to go up and get it the way he did.  I would give you the luck call if it were the catch alone or maybe Eli scrambling and an easy catch.  But both of them in the most clutch drive in history????  Not luck.  Wanting it more and more heart to win the big one.  Oh, and there were 4 more plays that the Patriots could have stopped the Giants after the "Luckiest" play.  Still did not get the job done. 

Also, the 80 of those total yards came in the last half of the last quarter when the Giants were playing a serious no big play D.  If the Giants kept their pressure on the 80 yard drive that the Pats scored that TD on, they would have dominated even more.  Actually that is one of the Giants deficiencies in my eyes is playing that type of D too early in a game. 

Eli was cool, calm, and collected on the biggest stage.  Eli led this Giant team.  And Eli who is defined by that playoff run and Superbowl Win, not one bad game in 2008, is who he is.  A timing pattern passer.  A QB with solid skills, quiet leadership, and more heart than most QB's. 

I will however remove the "whooping" part as maybe that was coming from an overzealous fan. So the game was not a whooping in the end.  But, Brady got the "whooping" of his life and his boys up front were helpless to save him.  So the Giants did not whoop the Pats.  But the Giants D did whoop Brady. 

10/14/08
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(Edited by bobjrinaz)
In all honesty, story was well written with good points.  I will give you a 9 out of 10 for journalistic skills.  But a 1 point deduction for premature articulation.   

 
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