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The Ohio State Buckeys are already 0-2 against teams who made it to BCS bowls, and are ready to make it 0-3. Normally in BCS bowls, you have a sense that it will at least be a competitive game. As much as everyone was counting out Utah, at least Utah deserved to be there. While Ohio State has only 2 losses, it's hard to find anyone who was truly impressed with their play this year.

The Buckeyes got rocked when they played USC, and lost to Penn State as well, who also got smothered by the Trojans. Their most impressive win was over Michigan State, who lost to Georgia in their bowl game.

Regardless of what happened in their respective bowl games, there is no doubt whatsever that Boise State and Texas Tech were more deserving of a BCS bowl than Ohio State.

In fact, allowing Boise State into a BCS bowl could have fixed the current nightmare that the BCS has on their hands, since their win over Alabama has everyone furious with the BCS, while a win over Boise State would have been far less controversial in the end.

Regardless, this is your official live thread for tonights Fiesta Bowl, which features all-world QB Colt McCoy and the Texas Longhorns against Terrelle Pryor and the Ohio State Buckeyes. If you're watching the game (8 pm EST on FOX), then feel free to chat about it here with your fellow FanIQers.

83% picked Texas to win this one, but I'm calling it a lock. I'll take the Longhorns by at least 2 TD's. They're pissed off about a perceived National Championship snub, and they're ready to try and prove it. Oh yeah... and they're just a much better team.

Chat it up here or on the game page, and always, enjoy the game!

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1/5/09

If I were Jim Tressel, I would remove all of the helmet stickers for this game. None of their players has accomplished anything significant in a BCS bowl, and I think that a fresh start is exactly what they need. After watching their montage, where they had all these guys with helmets covered with stickers, it made it clear to me that they need to take them all away, and REALLY make them earn them. Maybe it would provide a little extra motivation.

1/5/09

1/5/09

3	And for the record, the tOSU marching band was the douchiest thing I've seen all day.

1/5/09

2	Yeah, and he needs to not wear that sweater vest.. I think it's bad luck.

1/5/09

AndiLee0388

0	Kick some Butt Colt!!

1/5/09

1	"there is no doubt whatsever that Boise State and Texas Tech were more deserving of a BCS bowl than Ohio State" Which they proved with wins over TCU and Ole Miss.

1/5/09

Seth wrote:

"there is no doubt whatsever that Boise State and Texas Tech were more deserving of a BCS bowl than Ohio State"
Which they proved with wins over TCU and Ole Miss.

Notice I said "Regardless of what happened in their respective bowl games".

Can you honestly say that, before the bowl games, Ohio State had a better resume than either of those teams? Absolutely not.

I understand that Texas Tech was SOL due to the rules about having 3 in a conference. But there's really no valid reason for Boise State getting snubbed, other than the almighty dollar.

And now, I bet the BCS is wishing they let Utah and Boise State play each other and then let Texas play Alabama. That would have produced a much more BCS-friendly result than the Utah win over Alabama.

1/5/09

0	Seth wrote: "there is no doubt whatsever that Boise State and Texas Tech were more deserving of a BCS bowl than Ohio State" Which they proved with wins over TCU and Ole Miss. Tech got raped by Ole Miss what are you talking about? I'm just glad they weren't in a BCS bowl or I'd have to watch them humiliate themselves even more.

1/5/09

Pat wrote:

I would have liked to see Utah/Boise.
Texas would have rolled Alabama (like they might but hopefully won't tonight)

1/5/09

AndiLee0388

2	I dont get how a #3 gets stuck with a #10 anyway..except that the BCS needs to be abolished!!

1/5/09

0	taylordanley wrote: Tech got raped by Ole Miss what are you talking about? I'm just glad they weren't in a BCS bowl or I'd have to watch them humiliate themselves even more. I'm guessing that there was a hint of sarcasm there.

1/5/09

0	Seth wrote: "there is no doubt whatsever that Boise State and Texas Tech were more deserving of a BCS bowl than Ohio State" Which they proved with wins over TCU and Ole Miss. And of course, something I forgot to mention in my first reply is that Ohio State is going to similar prove their worth tonight. I think that even you would admit that.

1/5/09

TonyBaronie

In fact, allowing Boise State into a BCS bowl could have fixed the current nightmare that the BCS has on their hands, since their win over Alabama has everyone furious with the BCS, while a win over Boise State would have been far less controversial in the end.

Do you mean Utah beating Alabama this year or Boise State beating Oklahoma last year? Boise State has not played Alabama as far as I can recall, but many would say I am biased and forget a lot of things since I am an Ohio State fan.

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: I'm guessing that there was a hint of sarcasm there. just a smidgen!

1/5/09

0	why is this guy is using the fiesta bowl as a scapegoat to get me to buy chips and dip?

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: I'm guessing that there was a hint of sarcasm there. Me sarcastic? Never

1/5/09

TonyBaronie wrote:

I mean that if they had paired up Utah and Boise State in a BCS bowl, they would still be able to pretend that Utah didn't deserve a chance to play in the National Championship, because Utah would have blown out Boise State, instead of beating Alabama convincingly. Although it would have been impressive, it wouldn't have been as influential as their win over Alabama.

1/5/09

tvjunkie1172

0	The Longhorns are going to take this game hands down. There is no way Ohio State can beat them. Texas Fight!

1/5/09

0	(Edited by taylordanley) damn, Colt McCoy's mom is a FOXXXX. pun intended

1/5/09

blownyemail

0	OSU D looks good so far. Forced fumble and a couple of nice plays.

1/5/09

100%InjuryRate

0	taylordanley wrote: damn, Colt McCoy's mom is a FOXXXX. pun intended Can anyone get a picture?

1/5/09

0	OSU takes the early lead, 3-0. I'm going to stick with my original prediction and say that Texas will roll in this one, and this drive will be the beginning of the end for the Buckeyes. The Longhorns will take the lead here, and never look back.

1/5/09

0	uh oh! beanie wells is on his A game

1/5/09

TonyBaronie

1	The camera work is absolutely terrible tonight so far.

1/5/09

keith312001

Texas wins this game, Big 10 was exposed by there best team being drilled by USC. Prior to the games I really thought we should have had a Texas and Alabama match up. I know the ala. loss to Utah kinda messed that all up. Could be 4 teams staking claim to the championship if texas wins. even a plus one would not settle this. So if Obama can get a playoff I will vote for him for re-election. LOL just think, Penn state and Alabam were each just one game away from playing in the championship.
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1/5/09

keith312001

0	Dang I wonder if Texas defense is going to be exposed just like Texas Tech.....Dang if so I feel sorry for OU against Florida

1/5/09

2	I really think these FOX cameramen are biased. They keep showing close ups of Gatorade coolers.

1/5/09

Jared

0	taylordanley wrote: I really think these FOX cameramen are biased. They keep showing close ups of Gatorade coolers. I noticed that as well...wtf? It was twice in about 3 downs...

1/5/09

0	taylordanley wrote: damn, Colt McCoy's mom is a FOXXXX. pun intended Who's the blond next to his mom?

1/5/09

0	Seth wrote: Who's the blond next to his mom? I missed it, but was it Rachel Glandorf?

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: I missed it, but was it Rachel Glandorf? Looks like her in the video. (Good for Colt)

1/5/09

Pat wrote:

In all honesty, for a long time now, I have thought they give them out to liberally.

1/5/09

Heyhey1970

0	Did Ohio State not know Texas was going to run the hurry-up offense at some point?

1/5/09

0	Heyhey1970 wrote: Did Ohio State not know Texas was going to run the hurry-up offense at some point? The real question is... does it matter either way? As good as tOSU's defense is... could they stop it, even if they knew it was coming? They HAD to know it was... right?

1/5/09

0	what a catch

1/5/09

Pat wrote:

The real question is... does it matter either way? As good as tOSU's defense is... could they stop it, even if they knew it was coming? They HAD to know it was... right?

They knew Juice Williams was going to run the football last year on that last drive on almost every down, but it didn't stop Juice from humiliating OSU at home. Can't stop what you can't handle, OSU should know better by now.

OSU just got a field goal, woopty f'ing doo! TD's not FG are needed to out gun UT.

1/5/09

0	taylordanley wrote: what a catch And, yay, another field goal.

1/5/09

1	Pat wrote: The real question is... does it matter either way? As good as tOSU's defense is... could they stop it, even if they knew it was coming? They HAD to know it was... right? Where the hell is Pryor in this game? Anyone? They are better off with Boeckman the rest of the way.

1/5/09

Heyhey1970

Pat wrote:

The real question is... does it matter either way? As good as tOSU's defense is... could they stop it, even if they knew it was coming? They HAD to know it was... right?

Yeah, you're right. I was just shocked to see the the whole defense out of breath like that.

Everything has to go just right for a Big Ten team to score (any points) in a BCS game. That's the sad state of the conference. They need to be able to throw the freakin' ball down the field consistently. The "three yards and a cloud of dust" mentality is tired thinking.

1/5/09

jjoyce213

0	I am not a texas fan but I am a Titans fan.....ironic that ohio state has a vince young protoytpe in pryor. Good athlete...not a quarterback. defense is tired.....texas eating them up now....need more shots of the blonde

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: The real question is... does it matter either way? As good as tOSU's defense is... could they stop it, even if they knew it was coming? They HAD to know it was... right? OSU's D is making plays, but just not enough and when needed most.

1/5/09

0	Pryor drops backs looks deep, throws...right into the ground...pathetic

1/5/09

0	Ohio State completely controlled the first half, and now is falling apart defensively. Pryor will have to step up for Ohio State to stay in it.

1/5/09

0	Does anyone else feel like Pryor isn't even running fast when he passes the line of scrimmage? He just has a natural gift for running the ball, if only he could be consistent in the passing game....he has to develop that over the next few years

1/5/09

0	They better not end up kicking another field goal here.

1/5/09

Michael_Luchies wrote:

Does anyone else feel like Pryor isn't even running fast when he passes the line of scrimmage? He just has a natural gift for running the ball, if only he could be consistent in the passing game....he has to develop that over the next few years

He would do some times during the season. It's like he forgets he's not playing against high school kids that he can just jog past.

1/5/09

0	Seth wrote: They better not end up kicking another field goal here. I have Texas -8, so I'm hoping they only get a FG here, and then UT marches down the field for a TD. That would be nice.

1/5/09

0	Pryor is so quick, but he is the main weapon this half. Any word on Wells? Texas has too many weapons for them.

1/5/09

1	sportsgnork wrote: Where the hell is Pryor in this game? Anyone? They are better off with Boeckman the rest of the way. You know what they say about teams with 2 quarterbacks...

1/5/09

Am I watching the same game you all are? The comments I'm reading is how the D is falling apart and how the offense is pathetic...OSU is down 8 points, 7:35 left in the 4th Quarter against Texas, a team that many many people had a case for to be in the NC game.

I was with most everyone else when I thought it would be atleast 2 TD's, probably 30-40 points when it was all said and done...truth is, OSU is hanging around, and still easily has a shot late in the game. While I agree they were not worthy of even being in the game, they're doing better than anyone expected.

1/5/09

2	Excellent play there by OSU. Terrelle Pryor just found his future. No doubt in my mind that they should go for 2 here, by the way.

1/5/09

0	As I type that, TD Bucks, and just down 2..

1/5/09

0	WOW TD Ohio St. and no good on teh 2 point conversion....WHEEEEW!

1/5/09

Chief_aka_James wrote:

The D isn't terrible, just tired. Hopefully this last OSU drive will get them rested. They can't let Texas run the clock down.

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: Excellent play there by OSU. Terrelle Pryor just found his future. No doubt in my mind that they should go for 2 here, by the way. He's still got 3 more years to not throw so many passes short and into the ground.

1/5/09

0	Those penalties were very costly. Without them OSU kicks a field goal.

1/5/09

0	Seth wrote: He's still got 3 more years to not throw so many passes short and into the ground. If he stays for three more years.

1/5/09

0	3 and out...with how bad FG's are for you guys, thats all OSU needs to be leading this game...

1/5/09

0	(Edited by Seth) RunningDawg wrote: If he stays for three more years. If he wants to be a QB in the NFL, he might need to. If he doesn't care what he plays in the NFL, he get drafted whenever he'll decides to leave on athleticism alone.

1/5/09

0	Wow no way...what a game! Let's see if Texas can counter!

1/5/09

0	Terrell Pryor is beastly

1/5/09

0	Wow OSU made that look easy

1/5/09

0	Man Pryor looks good at wideout even though he was flagged for OPI (the announced said OPI for offensive pass interference....who the heck says OPI???!!)

1/5/09

0	Anyone have any idea why they went for 2 right there?

1/5/09

0	Who else will be enjoying their crow tomorrow?

1/5/09

0	Seth wrote: If he wants to be a QB in the NFL, he might need to. If he doesn't care what he plays in the NFL, he get drafted whenever he'll decides to leave on athleticism alone. I agree if he wants to be a NFL qb he should say and pick up some more skills. But he could be a tough reciver!

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: Anyone have any idea why they went for 2 right there? 4 or 5 makes no difference...but 6 with a missed PAT is possible

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: Anyone have any idea why they went for 2 right there? No idea, 4 or 6 point lead it is virtually the same thing.

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: Anyone have any idea why they went for 2 right there? Nope, take the one point. Then you're up by 5. If Texas scores, they're up by 2, and a last second field goal by OSU wins. Now should Texas score and OSU get a last second field goal try it would only tie the game.

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: Anyone have any idea why they went for 2 right there? Meh, i guess i can understand it...4 or 5 makes absolutely no difference, but you make it 6, and the XP comes into play if Texas scores a TD.

1/5/09

0	(Edited by derms33) I got a Crow gettin ready to send to Massachusettes...but a lot of time left

1/5/09

1	Chief_aka_James wrote: Who else will be enjoying their crow tomorrow? I'll be eating it, but I won't be enjoying it.

1/5/09

1	Maybe they expected to block an extra point if Texas scored a TD lol

1/5/09

0	here's the game 4th and 3

1/5/09

0	First Down!!!!

1/5/09

0	That first down proves it, Texas is destined to win this game somehow. I'll call a Shipley catch for a TD to win it

1/5/09

1	ok Quan Cosby....wow what a game, I almost feel bad for Ohio State fans....but I don't

1/5/09

2	Nice play by Texas, and nice win. But this game proves that Texas didn't belong in the National Championship game.

1/5/09

0	You were close, QUAN COSBY!

1/5/09

0	Great game. Nothing more should be said.

1/5/09

0	Wow Incredible! Great game.

1/5/09

0	If Ohio State ties it up here with a long FG and loses in OT, how retarded does Tressel look for going for 2?

1/5/09

fourtime7

0	touchdown!!!!!!!!!

1/5/09

fourtime7

1	quan crosby earned 1st round status!

1/5/09

0	11 seconds 2 time outs.....what 3 plays?

1/5/09

2	Great game, better than expected out of Ohio State, they should hold their heads up high. Big 12 once again shows dominance over my beloved Big 10. This years Big 12 might be one of the best conferences ever

1/5/09

0	Good game. Suck it, both teams.

1/5/09

0	Sacked on teh first play....Not good for OSU

1/5/09

fourtime7

0	game done!

1/5/09

0	Pat wrote: Nice play by Texas, and nice win. But this game proves that Texas didn't belong in the National Championship game. but they beat Oklahoma..

1/5/09

1	lol...worse than being a Browns fan

1/5/09

0	taylordanley wrote: but they beat Oklahoma.. And they lost to Texas Tech, who got destroyed by Ole Miss. And they BARELY beat OSU, who got crushed by USC and also lost to Penn State. Texas drops to #4 on my ballot, behind Utah, USC and the winner of Florida-OU.

1/5/09

Heyhey1970

1	Almost as bad as Tressel going for two for no good reason was the Fox Sports crew. Josh Lewin, the play-by-play guy was acting like the game was over. One twenty yard pass by Ohio State and they could have gone for a game-tying field goal. I still haven't seen a team as good as Utah, maybe there will be one on Thursday night.

1/5/09

1	OSU fails again, but at least put up a fight. I still think Boise State deserved to be there, but I think next year, the committee is going to give OSU a second look from now on for a few years.

1/6/09

streetballer123

1	Texas Longhorns are Fiesta Bowl Champs. Suck it- you Texas haters.

1/6/09

0	Pat wrote: And they lost to Texas Tech, who got destroyed by Ole Miss. And they BARELY beat OSU, who got crushed by USC and also lost to Penn State. Texas drops to #4 on my ballot, behind Utah, USC and the winner of Florida-OU. they lost to Tech with a second left haha. might as well been a coin toss.

1/6/09

0	taylordanley wrote: they lost to Tech with a second left haha. might as well been a coin toss. Same with their win over Ohio State. Their win over Oklahoma State wasn't exactly convincing either. If USC had played Texas tonight, USC would have won by 30.

1/6/09

0	Pat wrote: Same with their win over Ohio State. Their win over Oklahoma State wasn't exactly convincing either. If USC had played Texas tonight, USC would have won by 30. Yeah probably but I doubt by 30

1/6/09

deepjassal2009

Pat wrote:

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1/6/09

0	Pat wrote: Same with their win over Ohio State. Their win over Oklahoma State wasn't exactly convincing either. If USC had played Texas tonight, USC would have won by 30. I think we should all hold off on the ''would have's" for tonight...I thought Texas would have won by 30 against OSU, and I'm pretty sure you had the same or close to..

1/6/09

CalBoomer

0	After the sloppy play of Texas tonight and the minimally deserved win, USC will undoubtedly be #2 in the final polls behind the winner of the BCS game. Guess the BCS at least got it right putting OU ahead of Texas.

1/6/09