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11/2/09
Filthadelphia...Why I Despise My Cross State Rivals
Filthadelphia... Why I Despise My Cross State Rivals
As I watched the World Series last night, I suddenly found myself pulling for the Yankees. When I was a boy, I had this admiration for the Yankees, because of the legacy of all those incredible baseball players...I'd watch old Micky Mantle clips, and digested as much as I could about DiMaggio, Yogi, Maris, Whitey Ford, and then you page back to the Ruth/Gehrig era. It's hard not to appreciate these guys and what they mean to the game I loved as a boy. 

Then came Steinbrenner. Now we have a team who has set the standard in how MLB teams run...by attempting to outspend everyone. Look, I am a Pirates fan, and when you see a guy like Texeria or CC sign for those ridiculous amounts of money, it makes you sick. Any homegrown talent will most likely be temporarily stationed in PNC Park, before taking a huge payday from another major market club. But back to my point here...I hate Philly. 

When the series began, all I wanted was a good series, simply because I wanted to be entertained. I could care less who won, in fact, I did not want either to win. But then last night  I paid more attention to the wildly clever fan chants of "CC sucks" or "Yankees Suck" or whoever "sucks." I thought back to the Stanley Cup playoffs, when all the Philly Flyer faithful could come up with again was, "Crosby Sucks." Ironic that all these athletes and teams that "suck" end up beating them. It's good to be sucky. How about cheering for your team, instead of constantly degrading the opponent? Probably the worst moment of all last night was seeing a kid, no older than 12, face painted, and while not being a great lip reader, it was pretty clear that he was cursing and screaming, just like dad. Let's hear it for parenting!

It gets old, the blatant disrespect shown to any athlete, and often times, it is even directed at their own, i.e. Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid, Mike Richards, etc. The fist fights in the stands, the need for a jail within your facility, the pelting of opposing players with batteries, popcorn, beer, snowballs, etc. 

I get that these incidents are not just a Philly thing, we've all chanted a goalies name mockingly. I am sure I have even joined in on a so and so sucks. It is the degree and the length that these fans go to that pushes me over the edge. There is a line between being a passionate fan and a jerk. At some point, you have to show class, and respect. I get into this all the time when the topic of certain QB's are brought up here on the Q. I may not like Tom Brady, or Peyton Manning, but I sure as heck enjoy watching these guys play, and revel in the opportunity to see them go down to the Steelers come playoff time. 

Maybe when one of your great sports figures is a fictional character, you have some excuse for skewed reality, whereas we have statues of Clemente, Stargell, and Art Rooney. Even our Pirates, so maligned, 17 straight losing seasons, have a more successful past than the Phillies, winners of 5 out of 7 World Series (coincidentally the highest winning percentage in MLB provided at least 3 appearances). 

So, Filthadelphia, I sincerely hope the Yankees beat you now. In the end you will most likely not be able to admit that the better team won, that A-Rod, Tex and the rest of the "Bombers" did what they had to to win. Instead you will throw Ryan Howard or Brad Lidge under the bus. Maybe Charlie Manuel for not starting Lee on short rest. 

Sports, in the end, are a game. Competition where teams and individuals put their skills to the test against one another. We, the fans throw our support behind them. Sports teach many life lessons,  such as hard work being rewarded, teamwork, etc. Win or lose, our lives move on. At some point, people need to understand this fact, and more importantly, provide a good example for the kids. It is a great feeling when our team does win it all, and I have been blessed to witness this many times in my own life. One of my earliest memories I can recall is seeing Lynn Swann make his incredible acrobatic catch in Super Bowl X. I saw the Pirates come back from 3-1 down to the Orioles, followed a few months later by another Super Bowl victory. 

I was lucky enough to be at game 1, 1992 Stanley Cup Finals, where the Pens came back from 4-1 in the 3rd Period against the Blackhawks to win (and why is that game not included in the 10 Greatest Pens' Games DVD box set????). I also have the image of Sid Bream rounding third in game 7 to prevent the Pirates going to the World Series seared into my brain, as well as Neil O'Donnell suddenly becoming Captain Turnover in SB XXX. That is the beauty of sports, and we all remember ABC's Wide World of Sports and that poor ski jumper illustrating the agony of defeat. 

It is how you carry yourself after a win, after a loss, that reveals character.  When someone down here in South Florida asks me why would I not want the Phillies to win, since they are a Pennsylvania team, I merely tell them that I despise Filthyland. As a city, Philadelphia is a great place. As a sports town, it's a classless wasteland, completely void of respect. Just go to an Eagle game at the Linc in an opposing teams jersey. You might as well be wearing a white hood and robe, the amount of verbal abuse received is completely uncalled for. A few years ago I went to a Flyers Pens game, with a college buddy and his 9-year-old son.  That the kid learned all of George Carlin's 7 words, and many more is a tribute to the town. 

Anyway, I am sure I will have hit a nerve with this one, and be flamed excessively. I will be told I am making generalizations and that I am focusing on a few rotten apples. My wife's family is from there, and her dad and I get along great, so I understand that not everyone is like this. Still, it is the mob mentality there, and that one takes over, showing zero class and a whole lot of suck. 
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11/2/09
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(Edited by Ryan)
Nice take.  I have one written too about how I hope the Pirates lose the World Series.  Too bad no one will be alive when it's time to publish it.

11/2/09
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 Normally I would say you are making Generalizations, but not this time.  I know way too many Philly fans.

Very good write up, especially concerning how to be a fan through good times and bad.

11/2/09
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(Edited by guylake)
No way any Philly fan would ever toss an F-bomb in the direction of this blog. Their city is just too clogged with dignity.

11/2/09
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(Edited by Ryan)
Nice take.  I have one written too about how I hope the Pirates lose the World Series.  Too bad no one will be alive when it's time to publish it.

11/2/09
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I've had this same discussion more times on this site more than can be counted.

Yes, some Philly fans are TERRIBLE fans.  Yes, some of them behave in an absolute classless way.  Yes, some of them are to be written off as the terrible people they are.

However, I think it's short-sighted to lump all Philly fans into that category.  I know you stated that it wasn't everyone, however I believe the inclusion of that statement to be obligatory instead of sincere.  Of course, it's much easier to ignore all of the other towns that say and do terrible things and single out Philadelphia as a whole.  It's easier to be "clever" and call the town Filthadelphia (man, that's so terribly original.  I bet it's NEVER been used before.  Seriously, you should consider a copyright for that thing so no one else steals your intellectual property!  Seriously.....it's gold).

Have fun and take your shots.  It's an easy target and about 15% of the people (or mob) you refer to really deserve the ridicule.  As a life-long Philly fan that's never booed for Santa or turned over a car or dropped the f-bomb in front of my kids or anyone else's kids, I'm going to continue to find a way to cope with the shame of being a Phillies fan.  I'm gonna wallow in my baseball misery and try to pull for my team to find some hits. 

11/2/09
0
I was at a pens game where the whole entire lawn chanted you have herpes to a girl that was wearing a flyers jersey. Sit in the leftfield bleacher seats at pnc park on college night.. not the nicest things are said to the left fielder. My dad goes to a colts game at heinz field with his son at the steeler game. chants of do they allow gay marriages in indianapolis start up. and the person sitting behind him saying every time the colts score im gonna punch you in the face. ( a nice enough steeler fan bitched them out and they thankfully shut up)
They are rivals there for you have the right to hate them..it makes it fun. this kinda stuff goes on right here in our fine city of pittsburgh 2. we are just as bad.  I happen to be pulling for the phillies this series . The city has good cheese steaks 2...not better than a primanti's  sandwich tho

11/2/09
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Ryan wrote:
Nice take.  I have one written too about how I hope the Pirates lose the World Series.  Too bad no one will be alive when it's time to publish it.
  Ah yes, the good ol' Bucs...funny how they fire Tracy and he takes a team no one gave a shot and got them in the playoffs. Maybe not the managers fault? 

Hey, very soon we'll pull off the winning season, then the playoffs...McCutchen, Alvarez, Tim Alderson...look out MLB, here we come...



11/2/09
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i will never root for the yankees, lakers, or anyone who plays tennis or golf.
All the yankees got is steroids

11/2/09
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Flone87 wrote:
  Ah yes, the good ol' Bucs...funny how they fire Tracy and he takes a team no one gave a shot and got them in the playoffs. Maybe not the managers fault? 

Hey, very soon we'll pull off the winning season, then the playoffs...McCutchen, Alvarez, Tim Alderson...look out MLB, here we come...


We got Brad Lincoln and Jose Tabata coming up 2

11/2/09
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aacwell wrote:
I was at a pens game where the whole entire lawn chanted you have herpes to a girl that was wearing a flyers jersey. Sit in the leftfield bleacher seats at pnc park on college night.. not the nicest things are said to the left fielder. My dad goes to a colts game at heinz field with his son at the steeler game. chants of do they allow gay marriages in indianapolis start up. and the person sitting behind him saying every time the colts score im gonna punch you in the face. ( a nice enough steeler fan bitched them out and they thankfully shut up)
They are rivals there for you have the right to hate them..it makes it fun. this kinda stuff goes on right here in our fine city of pittsburgh 2. we are just as bad.  I happen to be pulling for the phillies this series . The city has good cheese steaks 2...not better than a primanti's  sandwich tho
 Like I said, it goes on everywhere, yes...but when you are watching the game, and all you hear for much of the game is "CC Sucks, CC sucks," it is a very poor example of sportsmanship and respect. The amount of  Insert Name "Sucks" cheers vastly outnumbers the Let's Go Phillies or whatever chants they have. I think it is sad.

Like it or not, perception, in today's society, is reality. Philly has earned that perception...



11/2/09
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Flone87 wrote:
  Ah yes, the good ol' Bucs...funny how they fire Tracy and he takes a team no one gave a shot and got them in the playoffs. Maybe not the managers fault? 

Hey, very soon we'll pull off the winning season, then the playoffs...McCutchen, Alvarez, Tim Alderson...look out MLB, here we come...


Actually, I would like to see the Pirates have some success. (Just not at the expense of my Phillies )    I think it would have been fun to watch them this year had they been allowed to keep the team together. 

Agreed on the managerial thing - it's an easy excuse for lousy upper management.

11/2/09
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I used to live near Philadelphia on the jersey side and am from NYC. You could put me on MARS and would ALWAYS be a Yankees/Giants/Rangers fan. I would NEVER attend a Rangers/Flyers game there for fear of being abused. As you had stated, yes this does happen everywhere but not to the extent it does in Philly.
I had a Giants sticker on my car for ONE WEEK before it mysteriously vanished....  Thanks to my dad I will always despise that Flyers's logo.

11/2/09
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I wish you had shown some class in the claim you are making about the Phillies fans by at least making an effort to contain the same disgusting behavior you accuse us of...but I guess you couldnt help yourself. The very first word, "Fithadelphia" discredits everything you say, as it just proves that you are as much a name caller, or delights in poor sportmanship as a very small percent of the phillies fans are.
I am not a supporter of that kind of behavior, never have or will be...but you seem to be just like them.

11/2/09
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To be honest, I didn't even read the article. Just reading the word "Filthadelphia" makes it an automatic win for me!

11/2/09
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Flone87 wrote:
 Like I said, it goes on everywhere, yes...but when you are watching the game, and all you hear for much of the game is "CC Sucks, CC sucks," it is a very poor example of sportsmanship and respect. The amount of  Insert Name "Sucks" cheers vastly outnumbers the Let's Go Phillies or whatever chants they have. I think it is sad.

Like it or not, perception, in today's society, is reality. Philly has earned that perception...


Your gonna have classless fans in every market. Let people booze up in the parking lot and things are going to be said. Maybe when they do way with tailgating things will clean up.
It will be sweet if we can renew the pirates phillies rivalry like back in the late 70's
Pirates have good things in the there future.

11/2/09
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that's one of the reasons sports is so fun, we have real life drama everyone else who isnt a sports fan has their soap operas, every now and then i like seing a team get so into the game that they do something and throw a bat at a player like roger clemens. Sports have became a money thing and players play for the money not the game when you see someone get fired up and into the game its alot more fun to watch.


11/2/09
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zballa07 wrote:
i will never root for the yankees, lakers, or anyone who plays tennis or golf.
All the yankees got is steroids
nice.  Absolutely true.  Also, even though this is in jeopardy, the Phillies are the Defending Champions.  The Eagles do good every year in the Andy Reid era, and the 76ers are starting to pull it together, as result of going to the playoffs last year.  You cant say that Philly teams cant play for beans.  If you do, then you are either in denial or have so high of standards that even 2 straight championships are still an epic fail.

 
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