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8/21/08
Gibbs Post Script

Well Nascar there will be 2 less ticket buying  people for your races and remember this I have 10 blogs besides here to convince other people to do the same . By your own admission the magnets has no effect on the outcome of the races , but did it ever accure to you Gibbs might not have put them there . I know your totally stupid  but even a dummy like you can figture a team wouldn't cut there own horsepower output . So we are selling our tickets for California , Texas and Phoenix  .
California we didn't want anyway . Twice a year in the dump ( land fill ) is torture for as . So no big lost  . And we probably won't be at any races  in  09 either .

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Joe Gibbs Racing has suspended two Nationwide Series crew chiefs for the remainder of the season in the wake of penalties handed down by NASCAR after rule violations were discovered by inspectors prior to post-race testing on the chassis dynamometer Aug. 16 at Michigan.

NASCAR announced that seven crew members -- including No. 18 crew chief Jason Ratcliff and No. 20 crew chief Dave Rogers -- have been placed on indefinite suspension.

Although in no way was anything done that might have altered the race outcome, these JGR employees attempted to circumvent the NASCAR rule book and that is unacceptable.

-- JOE GIBBS

In response, team owner Joe Gibbs said in a statement: "A poor decision was made by some key members of our organization, and 100 percent of the blame rests with us."

Gibbs also noted that JGR would adding its own penalties to the team members on top of NASCAR's sanctions.

"We had come to the conclusion that we would add to any NASCAR imposed penalties with the minimum being suspension for the remainder of the season for those involved, including our two Nationwide Series crew chiefs. There will also be an additional monetary fine beyond the amount announced by NASCAR earlier today, which will be the responsibility of those involved."

A JGR spokesman confirmed to NASCAR.COM that team has suspended the seven crew members for the remainder of the season.

Both the Nos. 18 and 20 cars were found to be in violation of:

Section 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing); 8-9 (competitive analysis -- from time to time, NASCAR may determine, in the interest of competition, that it is necessary or appropriate to undertake an analysis of the performance capabilities of a car, car part, component or equipment. The Competitor shall take whatever steps are requested by NASCAR Officials for this purpose. NASCAR also has the right to seal or impound cars, car parts, components and/or equipment for this purpose);

Section 12-4-Q (1): (car, car parts, components and/or equipment used that do not conform to NASCAR rules, detailed in Section 20A of the 2008 NASCAR Rule Book, or has not been approved by NASCAR prior to the event, or is not required for the normal functional operation of the race car, or has been altered to detract from or compromise its integrity or effectiveness, whether operational or not);

Section 12-4-K: (when NASCAR Officials mandate inspection during the Event, if any car, car parts, components, and/or equipment which have been used in the Event are taken from the racing premises without permission of a NASCAR Official, or are tampered with by any member of the team or anyone associated with the team: Magnetic spacer attached under the gas pedal with the intent of compromising the chassis dynamometer test).

As a result, NASCAR issued the following penalties:

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• Both of the drivers --

• Both crew chiefs -- Ratcliff and Rogers -- have been fined $50,000 and indefinitely suspended.

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Both JGR crew chiefs and five other team members were indefinitely suspended by NASCAR following an attempt to manipulate dyno results after the Nationwide Series race at Michigan. Did the penalties fit the crime?

 

• From the No. 18 team, car chief Dorian Thorsen, engine tuner Michael Johnson, and crew member Toby Bigelow have been placed on indefinite suspension.

• From the No. 20 team, car chief Richard Bray and engine tuner Dan Bajek have been indefinitely suspended.

• In addition, the entire Nos. 18 and 20 Nationwide Series teams have been placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.

"In our post-race inspection, our inspectors discovered some shims that were placed on the gas-pedal stop. They were magnets that were about a quarter-inch thick that prevented the accelerator from going 100 percent wide open," said Robin Pemberton, vice president of competition for NASCAR.

It is not unusual for NASCAR to test cars on the chassis dynamometer, which measures rear-wheel horsepower. Officials have administered this test several times during the season, and the Nos. 18 and 20 cars were only two of several that were tested following the race.

"In 17 years we have never had any representative of Joe Gibbs Racing knowingly act outside of NASCAR's rules, and that is something we consider essential to how we operate on a daily basis," Gibbs said. "What we have determined is that these individuals involved used extremely poor judgment in attempting to alter the results of NASCAR's dyno test following Saturday's Nationwide Series race in Michigan.

"Although in no way was anything done that might have altered the race outcome, these JGR employees attempted to circumvent the NASCAR rule book and that is unacceptable."

The JGR teams in question have dominated the series for much of the season, combining to win 14 of 25 races. The infractions come shortly after NASCAR announced rule changes for the Toyota engines used in the Nationwide Series last month. The guidelines were intended to cut 15 horsepower and level a playing field that fellow competitors had insisted was lopsided for much of the season because they believed the Toyota engines were producing more horsepower than other manufacturers.

"We take full responsibility and accept the penalties NASCAR has levied against us today," Gibbs said. "We are, however, disappointed that NASCAR chose to place our drivers on probation, as they had no knowledge or involvement of this incident."

Penalties

Joey Logano of the No. 18 and Tony Stewart of the No. 20 -- have been penalized with the loss of 150 championship driver points and placed on probation until Dec. 31. Joe Gibbs, owner of both of the cars, has likewise been penalized 150 championship owner points for each of those entries.Share your thoughts

Owner Joe Gibbs

loss of 150 owner points for Nos. 18 and 20 cars

Driver Joey Logano

loss of 150 driver points, probation until Dec. 31

Driver Tony Stewart

loss of 150 driver points, probation until Dec. 31

No. 18 crew chief Jason Ratcliff

fined $50,000 and indefinitely suspended

No. 20 crew chief Dave Rogers

fined $50,000 and indefinitely suspended

No. 18 car chief Dorian Thorsen

placed on indefinite suspension

No. 18 engine tuner Michael Johnson

placed on indefinite suspension

No. 18 crew member Toby Bigelow

placed on indefinite suspension

No. 20 car chief Richard Bray

placed on indefinite suspension

No. 20 engine tuner Dan Bajek

placed on indefinite suspension

No. 18 team

probation until Dec. 31

No. 20 team

probation until Dec. 31

 

 

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8/21/08
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"but did it ever accure to you Gibbs might not have put them there"

Didn't he admit to the team making poor decisions by putting the magnets in the car?  Maybe not Joe Gibbs himself, but he oversees the whole operation.  Seems to me they should be penalized for cheating and NASCAR did the right thing here, and Gibbs should do his own penalizing of certain people on his team because of what they did.

8/22/08
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Maybe your right but the magnets hurt the performance of the cars . So why would a team do that ?  Neither the less I was looking for an excuse not to go to California for either race . Since i have a hard time being social with idiots and generally don't do it . Maybe we will get Phoenix tickets  next year


8/22/08
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Yeah, I'm still puzzled by the whole thing too.  Good choice with the switch to Phoenix.  I've never been to either, but Phoenix is a far for exciting track to watch a race in my opinion.

8/22/08
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I love Vegas and Phoenix and even Texas but i hate California  . When my girlfriend gets home we are moving out of this dump and I mean the whole state of California

 
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