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1/11/08
If you're surprised by the Reggie Bush book, then you're not familiar with college athletics
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As I'm sure some of you know, there's an excerpt of the upcoming book on Reggie Bush ("Tarnished Heisman") up on the web now. The book is scheduled to be released on Jan. 15.

Basically, what's being investigated in the book is this: Bush allegedly had ties to two San Diego men, cofounders of a fledgling sports agency, who claim to have paid Bush and his family in cash and gifts to ensure his endorsement — benefits including a vintage car, lavish trips, and an upscale home where Bush’s family lived rent-free. All told, it added up to about $300,000 in benefits. Bush may ultimately have to give back the Heisman and USC may lose the National Championship it won while Bush was there.

Yahoo! Sports has been on Bush's case forever, and this new book (not done by Yahoo!) just ups the ante.

But the question is, should we be surprised by any of these allegations?

The answer is no.

Whether people want to believe it or not, college sports, at least at the biggest schools, is a business - plain and simple. In fact, for two sports - football and basketball - college isn't just a business, it's a de facto minor leagues.

There was once a time when only the uber-elite sports universities could make money off of their sports teams. But these days, with TV contracts, shoe deals, radio shows, merchandising, etc., there is a lot of money to be made. Just check out this story about how LSU gear is flying off the racks right now, with the school getting 15% in royalties.

But usually the way you become profitable is simple - you win. And to win, and put butts in the seats, you need top talent. So you let boosters bend the rules a bit to bring in top recruits who are used to getting whatever they want. But that top talent also brings agents to the table - like the two guys tied in with Bush - who are hungry to create a relationship with a potential star who'll help make them wealthy down the road, even if it means breaking the rules.

In other words, it's an incredibly toxic mix. You have colleges looking to make money. You have boosters looking to bring top talent in by any means necessary to improve the teams and keep fans happy. And you have agents patrolling the sidelines looking to sign the next great star.

What's bad is that this system is so ingrained in our culture, there's almost no way of getting rid of it. We're not about to create a system where we get rid of college athletic programs and replace them with paid pro athletic divisions, like the European model, even though that might solve the problem.

So what can we do?

Basically there's nothing we can do. Bush's case isn't the exception in college sports. It's actually fairly common if you're familiar with college athletics (see: Webber, Chris - who got gifts and cash totalling up to $280,000 while at Michigan).

Whether you think that's sad or not is basically irrelevant. Because that's the way it is. And it isn't changing anytime soon.
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1/11/08
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Millions (close to billions) are being made in college sports and who gets the money?  The schools, nothing goes to the kids.  I mean these athletes are making the schools millions and are still shoplifting clothes, cause they have no money.  They need to start giving the kids some money to spend, not huge amounts, maybe $10,000 a year.   This would stop some of them going to these agents for help. 

 

I agree its a HUGE problem, and one that will not be quickly or easily eradicated.


1/11/08
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sportshoncho wrote:

Millions (close to billions) are being made in college sports and who gets the money?  The schools, nothing goes to the kids.  I mean these athletes are making the schools millions and are still shoplifting clothes, cause they have no money.  They need to start giving the kids some money to spend, not huge amounts, maybe $10,000 a year.   This would stop some of them going to these agents for help. 

 

I agree its a HUGE problem, and one that will not be quickly or easily eradicated.

I think the trouble in going to a spending model is how much do you give each kid. Do you give the starting RB and QB more money than the second string? That would turn into a nightmare so it's best that never happens.

And I don't necessarily agree that this kids aren't getting paid. They are getting decent educations ... or at the very least ... a decent diploma that will give them opportunities after college. That's worth more than $10,000 a year.

1/11/08
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You can't pay the kids.  For one, they're given the chance at a free education which if they're smart ends up paying them plenty in the long run.  Secondly, there's only two profitable sports in college atheltics - football and men's basketball.  Are we just going to pay them and ignore the other athletes who are just as poor and work just as hard but bring in no money (actually take money away) for the school?  We're stuck with this system as is, and as long as it doesn't get too far out of control, it works.

1/11/08
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If most kids would realize that they are getting about 50,000 to 90,000 dollar education (depending on where you go, out of state college, etc.). Why not use the University like they have used you.

1/11/08
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Great article by Dan Wetzel (from last year) about this very subject: Everybody Loves A Winner


1/11/08
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
I think the trouble in going to a spending model is how much do you give each kid. Do you give the starting RB and QB more money than the second string? That would turn into a nightmare so it's best that never happens.

And I don't necessarily agree that this kids aren't getting paid. They are getting decent educations ... or at the very least ... a decent diploma that will give them opportunities after college. That's worth more than $10,000 a year.

The $10,000 I threw out was just a number (a high one at that!).  My arguement is that the athletes deserve to have a little spending money for whatever, beyond sports.  They get a stipend but I don't think it is enough to buy gas for a car.  They have no way to get income, due to athletic schedule, thus must rely on support from elsewhere to get things.  This is either parents, boosteres or agents gambling on their futures.  I have NO idea how to implement it, but the schools are making good money and the athletes should have a little more flexibility.


1/11/08
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sportshoncho wrote:

The $10,000 I threw out was just a number (a high one at that!).  My arguement is that the athletes deserve to have a little spending money for whatever, beyond sports.  They get a stipend but I don't think it is enough to buy gas for a car.  They have no way to get income, due to athletic schedule, thus must rely on support from elsewhere to get things.  This is either parents, boosteres or agents gambling on their futures.  I have NO idea how to implement it, but the schools are making good money and the athletes should have a little more flexibility.

They get a stipend but I don't think it is enough to buy gas for a car.  They have no way to get income, due to athletic schedule, thus must rely on support from elsewhere to get things.

I do agree with this point for sure. My opinion is maybe a little jaded by the athletes I hung out with at Miami because they weren't so financially strapped, but it still seems like these kids can get a small loan to pay for these expenses while the university takes care of a GREAT DEAL of other costs.

1/16/08
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
They get a stipend but I don't think it is enough to buy gas for a car.  They have no way to get income, due to athletic schedule, thus must rely on support from elsewhere to get things.

I do agree with this point for sure. My opinion is maybe a little jaded by the athletes I hung out with at Miami because they weren't so financially strapped, but it still seems like these kids can get a small loan to pay for these expenses while the university takes care of a GREAT DEAL of other costs.

How are they supposed to pay the loans back without a job. Only a small percentage of kids make it to the big time, and the others now leave school already in debt in a job market that is stagnate an uncertain. Yes the kids are getting their education paid for but that dose not cover basic spending needs. And with the outrageous cost of gas and just about ever thing now they are stuck unless they have wealthy parents which a good majority do not.

 

I think the schools should give them an allowance of some sort how much I don't know. The schools are making millions of these kids and pocketing all the money this is wrong, they should dump alot of that money back into the scholarship funds, build better facilities (sports an non-sports), and do more community outreach like helping high school programs with equipment and training.


1/16/08
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BigTone2475 wrote:

How are they supposed to pay the loans back without a job. Only a small percentage of kids make it to the big time, and the others now leave school already in debt in a job market that is stagnate an uncertain. Yes the kids are getting their education paid for but that dose not cover basic spending needs. And with the outrageous cost of gas and just about ever thing now they are stuck unless they have wealthy parents which a good majority do not.

 

I think the schools should give them an allowance of some sort how much I don't know. The schools are making millions of these kids and pocketing all the money this is wrong, they should dump alot of that money back into the scholarship funds, build better facilities (sports an non-sports), and do more community outreach like helping high school programs with equipment and training.

What are they in debt for though? There school, room and board, and everything else is paid for by the athletic scholorship.

1/16/08
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Jubanator14 wrote:
What are they in debt for though? There school, room and board, and everything else is paid for by the athletic scholorship.

They would be in debt if they took out a loan to cover non-room and board expenses. Read the post I replied to.


 
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