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1/4/09
Indianapolis Colts Lose To San Diego Chargers 23-17; Squander Another 12-Win Season
The Colts Suck, Courtesy Of A Colts Fan


The book is not closed on the Indianapolis Colts.

That’s an odd way to begin a post that implies something quite to the contrary, but it’s entirely true. Fact is, Peyton Manning has a few great—not good, great—years left in him. As we saw Saturday night, Freeney and Mathis are still absolute bulls. Tony Dungy will inevitably retire and do so soon, but though the absence of his steady hand will doubtlessly be felt, life will go on with coach-in-waiting Jim Caldwell, because Jim Caldwell will do things as Dungy did.

The Colts are literally a machine. Their arsenal of weapons remains consistent, not constant; most big pieces remain in place, but Bill Polian’s unarguable management of the smaller ones that result from natural turnover in personnel (i.e., Anthony Gonzalez, the linebacking corps) and the coaching staff’s development of backups (i.e., safety Melvin Bullitt, who in Bob Sanders’ frequent absence, often played All Pro-caliber football) have kept them hovering above everyone—literally everyone. No one has matched their regular season dominance for the whole of this decade. No one has matched the level of exorbitant expectations placed upon them at the dawn of every year. From the perspective of efficiency, no machine is better-oiled than the Indianapolis Colts, and as long as their front office remains committed to winning in the here and now, they will almost always find ways to compete, even after they’re forced to find a new quarterback.

Thing is, they suck.

I would almost rather be a Bengals fan, so I could at least find humor in my team from time to time. There is no humor in Indianapolis—only heartache, only disappointment, only letdown. I’m sure there are a million Niners fans, a million Chiefs fans, and seven Lions fans who would just as soon trample my whiny tush to enjoy half the success Indianapolis has experienced over the course of the last half-decade. Of course, like I could really blame them. But in those cities, expectations are mostly met. No one has anticipated Alex Smith’s transformation into a Pro Bowler. No one has given real thought to the possibility that Herm Edwards’ team could actually build on anything. No one has thought Detroit would ever use a first round draft pick on anything but a cancerous wide receiver. It must be satisfying to live down to that lack of hype. In Naptown, it never fails—at some point during a given year, the Colts are hyped like a Police reunion tour prefaced by an announcement that Jenna Jameson is returning to porn. Unmitigated pandemonium. What is equally unfailing is this: Indy blows it.
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1/4/09
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... an announcement that Jenna Jameson is returning to porn. Unmitigated pandemonium. What is equally unfailing is this: Indy blows it.

Kinda like Jenna Jameson?



 


1/4/09
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... an announcement that Jenna Jameson is returning to porn. Unmitigated pandemonium. What is equally unfailing is this: Indy blows it.

Kinda like Jenna Jameson?



 


1/4/09
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The bad thing for the Colts was Denver blew the AFC West. Just as SD has Indys number, Indy has Denvers number in the post season. Indy needs to learn how to run the ball again

1/4/09
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kantwistaye wrote:

... an announcement that Jenna Jameson is returning to porn. Unmitigated pandemonium. What is equally unfailing is this: Indy blows it.

Kinda like Jenna Jameson?



 

Seriously, bless you for connecting that thought. I wanted to leave it hanging out there.

...

1/4/09
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danny_n94 wrote:
The bad thing for the Colts was Denver blew the AFC West. Just as SD has Indys number, Indy has Denvers number in the post season. Indy needs to learn how to run the ball again
Definitely Indy needs to revisit the run.  Empty backfield on third and short?  Peyton is great, but c'mon.

1/4/09
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3.4 yard per carry. There's your problem Indy. Also, Peyton kind of sucks in the postseason.

1/4/09
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(Edited by heyjustus)
They would have won if the defense hadn't imploded in overtime. After the fifth penalty I almost felt like Indianapolis didn't want to play anymore.


1/4/09
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Give the Chargers credit instead of calling the Colts "chokers." I'm so sick of that term. It seems that as a sports society, it's easier to label a team or player  as "Choke artists" rather than giving the winning team its due. Get some perspective, people. It's sports, it's entertainment. Colts played tough. Chargers played tougher.

1/4/09
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Timing...Just like the Giants last season...The Colts were bound to lose 1 after winning 9 straight. The Chargers are in the midst of a 5 game winning streak...I'm cool with 8 straight wins to finish the season!!! I'm rooting for the Ravens to get to the AFC Championship. The Chargers O-LINE has been phenomenal of late!!!!!

1/4/09
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TheBigThree wrote:
Seriously, bless you for connecting that thought. I wanted to leave it hanging out there.

...
Even the super skinny, implant removed, and kinda fish faced Jenna that she is now?



For shame, there are such better new stars out there....I mean I've heard there are better stars

1/4/09
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U know after I read the paragraph breaking down the goodness of the team and then the part where it says they suck I'd rather be a Bengals fan I stopped.  It's emotional to say some nonsense.  Be a Bengals fan better yet be a Lions fan but let me say this  the way those Arizona fans felt just by winning 1 playoff game at home was amazing.  So what a person's team is doing the Buffalo Bills I'd rather get my team there and be in the position to try to succeed than not.  My good friend's comment on my team (Eagles) being in the playoffs and his not (Cowboys) was that the Eagles weren't very good either this year and didn't matter if they were there.  My response was "At least we have the chance."  Complain about a coach's who's been to the playoffs 10 straight years, or a 3 time mvp, or even one the better WR's in recent times, oh and Bob Sanders and Freeny... how many Bengal fans would take 1 if not all of them on their team.  People get complacent and then start getting crazy.  I LOVE McNabb and Andy Reid but what bothers me that was getting on my nerve was Reid's play calling.  Sometimes the dude makes mistakes in personel and other areas but play calling was killing me I didn't want him gone just give those away.  A lot of Eagle fans wanted his ass gone his head on a pike and McNabb washing cars, but the success of the team has been good and they even got to the SB... hell the COLTS WON ONE.  I'm done ranting I'm just disgusted, and for the record Jenna Jameson's old ass has been worn out than a glory hole in a Saigon whore house.

PS. I do think their asses did deserve to lose I guess that AFC South wasn't that tough or the NFC South.  Carolina still can rep.  Tenn still can rep too.

1/4/09
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I thought Peyton left Tennessee. Good thing That defense got him a trophy once.

1/4/09
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San Diego Has The Colts Number......Bottom Line, With No Running Attack And Stupid Mental Errors, The Colts Again Underachieve

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(Edited by TheBigThree)
djjfrench wrote:
U know after I read the paragraph breaking down the goodness of the team and then the part where it says they suck I'd rather be a Bengals fan I stopped.  It's emotional to say some nonsense.  Be a Bengals fan better yet be a Lions fan but let me say this  the way those Arizona fans felt just by winning 1 playoff game at home was amazing.  So what a person's team is doing the Buffalo Bills I'd rather get my team there and be in the position to try to succeed than not.  My good friend's comment on my team (Eagles) being in the playoffs and his not (Cowboys) was that the Eagles weren't very good either this year and didn't matter if they were there.  My response was "At least we have the chance."  Complain about a coach's who's been to the playoffs 10 straight years, or a 3 time mvp, or even one the better WR's in recent times, oh and Bob Sanders and Freeny... how many Bengal fans would take 1 if not all of them on their team.  People get complacent and then start getting crazy.  I LOVE McNabb and Andy Reid but what bothers me that was getting on my nerve was Reid's play calling.  Sometimes the dude makes mistakes in personel and other areas but play calling was killing me I didn't want him gone just give those away.  A lot of Eagle fans wanted his ass gone his head on a pike and McNabb washing cars, but the success of the team has been good and they even got to the SB... hell the COLTS WON ONE.  I'm done ranting I'm just disgusted, and for the record Jenna Jameson's old ass has been worn out than a glory hole in a Saigon whore house.

PS. I do think their asses did deserve to lose I guess that AFC South wasn't that tough or the NFC South.  Carolina still can rep.  Tenn still can rep too.
Once again, this is not a post about Indy's regular season failure.  It's about their postseason failure, which given their regular season dominance -- no other word than dominance -- doesn't add up.  If you win 12 games every stinking year, you expect more than the occasional win against the Broncos in January.  I'm sorry.  The Colts have built these expectations for themselves, because they deserve them.  They're one of (or perhaps the most) talented, well-coached team(s) in the NFL.

You make my point for me when you start talking about the "10 straight playoff appearances for Dungy (9 of the last 10 years for Indy, another piece of evidence I forgot to include -- thanks for the addition), 3x MVP, incredible receiving corps, All-Pro defensive players", etc.  Let's go back to 1999.  From then until now -- The "Manning Era" -- Indianapolis is 3-8 in the postseason minus the '06 campaign.

3-8.

You can't argue when the numbers are against you.  The typical Colts season is this: 12-4, W vs. DEN (if they're lucky to play them) OR L vs. NE/SD in the Wild Card/Divisional.  Regular season kings, playoff chokers.  Someone called me out for labeling the Colts the latter term in this thread.  How else can you describe them?  I don't give credit to San Diego for being an 8-8 team that was 0-5 against playoff competition in the regular season.  It's a choke when you lose to that type of team, not some landmark Chargers win that needs to be lauded.  I don't care SD won 4 straight heading into the playoffs, because that 4 straight included games against a Minneapolis convent, a Pop Warner team, the boys at Furniture Liquidators, and zombies.

Plus, with regards to the Bengals stuff -- you gotta learn to discern the sarcasm a little better, buddy.  I would lose faith in football if I was a Bengals fan.  I love the Colts.

1/4/09
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Jubanator14 wrote:
Even the super skinny, implant removed, and kinda fish faced Jenna that she is now?



For shame, there are such better new stars out there....I mean I've heard there are better stars
True 'dat.

But although there have been better cars than the Model T, it is celebrated for its timelessness.  So must she be celebrated.

1/4/09
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They are the Atlanta Braves of Football, Great regular seasons and sub par playoff performances over a long period of time. And they both won only one championship. Thing is, they have won though. it would be a lot worse if they hadn't won one. So cut them a little slack.

1/4/09
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So be it that they underachieve in the playoffs and maybe the team just doesn't have that style, drive, and etc but that doesn't mean that a person with some scrub team would rather have them making the playoffs every year versus wearing bags on their heads to the stadium.  Not to mention it's not as if the NFL is a push over league they do have some good comp and I was listening to sports talk radio this morning and a poll among I believe GM's or upper management this season and they viewed the Chargers and Cowboys as the most talented teams in the league.  So it's not like SD was a bunch of scrubs and not to mention they always play the Colts tough.  I just think fans at times don't understand what they have, I can promise that if the Colts started not even sniffing the playoffs in 5 years we'll hear "ahhh man I miss the days when they at least got into the playoffs even they lost at least they were there/relevant."

1/4/09
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pete91788 wrote:
They are the Atlanta Braves of Football, Great regular seasons and sub par playoff performances over a long period of time. And they both won only one championship. Thing is, they have won though. it would be a lot worse if they hadn't won one. So cut them a little slack.
Basically thank you, I mean why don't fans sometime appreciate what's going on now more, I'm sure the Bills fans were pissy they lost 4 times in the SB but when u look back I'll be damned if those teams weren't incredible.

1/4/09
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Dungy has enjoyed no success in the post season for the most part. I wonder if his coaching philosophy is flawed. The Colts never seem to have that playoff-wrinkle that other teams have. They do exactly the same thing in every game. Once teams have 16 games of film to study, they know how to stop the Colts.

You can put some of the blame on Manning as well I guess. For the most part in the last couple years, he has played pretty well in the playoffs. It's hard to be consistently success when the offense is basically one-dimensional. For instance on those third and shorts, where the heck was Najeh Davenport. I can appreciate he hasn't been on the roster for most of the season, but he has rushed the football recently. He's the biggest back on the team. If he can't slam through for a couple yards, that's pretty sad.

It will be interesting to see what happens next season because I think Dungy will call it quits. Caldwell will come in with new ideas I hope. Also, I really think Tom Moore needs to go as well. He's what, 70ish?

 


1/4/09
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djjfrench wrote:
So be it that they underachieve in the playoffs and maybe the team just doesn't have that style, drive, and etc but that doesn't mean that a person with some scrub team would rather have them making the playoffs every year versus wearing bags on their heads to the stadium.  Not to mention it's not as if the NFL is a push over league they do have some good comp and I was listening to sports talk radio this morning and a poll among I believe GM's or upper management this season and they viewed the Chargers and Cowboys as the most talented teams in the league.  So it's not like SD was a bunch of scrubs and not to mention they always play the Colts tough.  I just think fans at times don't understand what they have, I can promise that if the Colts started not even sniffing the playoffs in 5 years we'll hear "ahhh man I miss the days when they at least got into the playoffs even they lost at least they were there/relevant."
No.

I have been a die-hard Cincinnati Reds fan my entire life.  It's frustrating.  Stupid front office.  Underachieving and underdeveloped talent.  A poor product on and off the field most years.  As such, I temper my expectations with the Cincinnati Reds.  Rooting for them in 2006 was one of my most satisfying experiences as a sports fan.  They finished the season 80-82.  But they contended all year long.  They played some exciting games at home.  They won some big games on the road.  They factored into playoff discussions.  They mattered.

They exceeded expectations.

That's what it's all about, the expectations game.  The Colts build for themselves Super Bowl expectations when they win 12 games in the regular season.  They've done that 7 times in the last 10 years.  They've been to the Super Bowl once.  They've been to a conference title game twice.

Watching Peyton Manning has been a pleasure, as he is one of the greatest quarterbacks ever.  Watching Tony Dungy coach this team has been redeeming, because many owners would be tempted to can him for his lack of postseason production, but there's not one man I would rather have representing my team.  I do not take his class for granted.  I'm fortunate to have Bill Polian running things.  His eye for talent is as sharp as they come.  Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis are bookend DEs that any team in any era would be fortunate to have.  On and on it goes.  I do not take this team for granted, because runs of success such as theirs come along infrequently.  But 12-4, L to SD; 12-4, L to NE; 13-3, W vs DEN, L to NE; 12-4, L to SD gets old.  You choose to pay attention to the 12-4 part.  I choose to pay attention to the sub-.500 mark in the playoffs.  On the whole, they're wildly successful for an NFL franchise.  Underneath the surface, they have failed too often, because playoff wins are the wins that do the talking, and their playoff masters are the Steelers, Bolts, and Pats.  They should be winning more of these games given their record, given their talent, given everything.  Period.

1/4/09
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Come now that's just silly talk to think that someone wouldn't want their team in the playoffs.  Whether or not they don't do well most fans still want the chance to be there the chance that they may do what the Cards did, Giants or Steelers.  The chance to maybe just be a juggernaut like the Pats a few years back and smash thru.  Either way I see it I'd rather my team make the playoffs i.e. Colts or Atl Braves 20 times and win 1 championship.

1/4/09
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The Chargers played a great game and the Colts (mostly Manning who was a bit quick to get another MVP imo by the NFL) suck in the playoffs.  If Rex Grossman wasn't a moron the Colts should have lost to the Bears in the Super Bowl two years ago.  Kudos for them to win 9 in a row though and get in the playoffs again when they had some injuries though. 

The bottom line is Manning sucks in the playoffs, he is kind of like Barry Bonds even when he was taking steroids, great regular season player, great QB, but really disappears in the playoffs.  As much as the NFL would love him to win a super bowl every year I don't see it happening again.  

The Colts will be fine, they will be back in the playoffs every year as long as their current system is intact, and Manning is playing QB but I think their chances of winning another super bowl are very slim. 

1/4/09
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At least your team wasn't as bad as the Cowboys. And I AM a Cowboys fan.


1/4/09
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(Edited by danny_n94)

As a Bronco fan I would have loved to see Denver have a chance to see what they could do in the playoffs. Remember this, it is impossible to win the Super Bowl watching the playoffs on TV. Sure Indy lost, but thats just they way the ball bounces. Indy blew chances to win the game. Like on a 3rd and 2  with around 2 minutes left, passing the ball? If they could run it, they would have ran it got the first down and took a knee. But they are pass first. Everyone wants to applaud Manning for 9 straight years with 4000 yards passing. But too me that shows the lack of a viable running game. That in the end is the reason they always lose in thr playoffs. The reason they won the Super Bowl they were committed to the run in the Super Bowl. Untilthat happend the Colts will always lose in the playoffs.


1/4/09
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pete91788 wrote:
They are the Atlanta Braves of Football, Great regular seasons and sub par playoff performances over a long period of time. And they both won only one championship. Thing is, they have won though. it would be a lot worse if they hadn't won one. So cut them a little slack.

Not Quite.  I believe the Braves do not get as much credit as they should.  A lot of fans and experts forget that Atlanta went to 5 World Series during their run (1991 vs. Twins, 1992, vs. BlueJays, 1995 vs. Indinans, 1996, vs. Yankees, and 1999 vs. Yankees), which was basically once every 3 years.  The problem is that people have short term memories, and forget what they did in the 90's.  Comparing the Braves to the Colts, is comparing apples and oragnes.  The Braves made it to the World Series 5 out of 14 times, they just did not "finish", and were 1-4 (Fans and Experts tend to only remember who won the World Series, not who lost it.)  Whereas the Colts with Manning have made the Super Bowl 1 out of 9 times, granted they won the Super Bowl in their only appearnce. 


1/4/09
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(Edited by Jubanator14)

'Cause you had a bad day 
You're taking one down 
You sing a sad song just to turn it around 
You say you don't know 
You tell me don't lie 
You work at a smile and you go for a ride 
You had a bad day 
You've seen what you like 
And how does it feel for one more time 
You had a bad day 
You had a bad day 
 (I wouldn't normally reuse something I posted previously but in this case the shoe fits too well,  don't worry you'll get over it... ) 

1/4/09
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Ya, the Colts did not have a good season, I mean we have all these rookies playing, our running game sucked, and our our run defense wasn't too great either, but saying all those things we still go 12-4. I don't know if you remember, but the Colts have won a Super Bowl, so quit saying this crap, seriously. To win a Super Bowl is not a walk in the park just to let you know, just ask the teams who have never even made it to a Super Bowl.

1/4/09
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18packabs wrote:
I thought Peyton left Tennessee. Good thing That defense got him a trophy once.
Yes Manning had nothing to do with it.

1/4/09
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That might have been the worst playcall I've ever seen.

1/4/09
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18packabs wrote:
I thought Peyton left Tennessee. Good thing That defense got him a trophy once.
college not PRO

1/4/09
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 Written by a true colts fan?.... *shakes head dissapointingly*

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(Edited by TheBigThree)
tnuts900 wrote:
 Written by a true colts fan?.... *shakes head dissapointingly*
A Colts fan who is not completely myopic.

And I know this will never, ever, ever, ever, ever happen for the remainder of time, but as it pertains to the written word, seriously, quit taking so many danged things out of context as if to make me look like a self-loathing Colts hater who completely disregards everything his team has done over the course of the last decade.  How many more times do I have to use phrases like "unmistakably extraordinary" to describe their success?  I'm making observations.  They're horrible in the playoffs.  Seriously, someone tell me differently.

1/4/09
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Variant wrote:

'Cause you had a bad day 
You're taking one down 
You sing a sad song just to turn it around 
You say you don't know 
You tell me don't lie 
You work at a smile and you go for a ride 
You had a bad day 
You've seen what you like 
And how does it feel for one more time 
You had a bad day 
You had a bad day 
 (I wouldn't normally reuse something I posted previously but in this case the shoe fits too well,  don't worry you'll get over it... ) 
Sorry, I won my fantasy league.

1/4/09
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magls wrote:
Ya, the Colts did not have a good season, I mean we have all these rookies playing, our running game sucked, and our our run defense wasn't too great either, but saying all those things we still go 12-4. I don't know if you remember, but the Colts have won a Super Bowl, so quit saying this crap, seriously. To win a Super Bowl is not a walk in the park just to let you know, just ask the teams who have never even made it to a Super Bowl.
This is a fruitless effort, but I'll try one more time, and I'll use all caps.

THE COLTS HAVE FAILED IN THE POSTSEASON RELATIVE TO THEIR REGULAR SEASON SUCCESS.

There.

If they were limping in with 9-7/10-6 records as a wild card every year, that's one thing.  But they won their division a million years running.  Again, 7 of their last 10 years, they won 12+ games.  Do you consider two conference championship game appearances and a Super Bowl over that span in-step with such success?  I don't.  I don't want to ask the teams who never made it to a Super Bowl, because every single one of those teams never won 12 games six years in a row.

1/4/09
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Ok, as a Chiefs fan I just want to say that it is frustrating as all get out when I hear people talking about their teams getting to the post-season play and not amounting to anything.  Try this on for size - The Chiefs victory on January 14, 1994 remains the franchise's last post-season victory to date.  Since Marty has left the Chiefs, we have only been in the post-season twice and haven't won in over a decade, not to mention haven't been to a Super Bowl nor won one since 1970!  I would gladly like the opportunity to be frustrated YEAR AFTER YEAR if it meant my team was actually performing well enough to get into the playoffs.  The Chiefs have exhibited a talented team and still failed to perform in the post-season...   I'd take that any year over them finishing last place, to the Raiders no less, in their division! 

1/4/09
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Anyone with any logic should have known that the Colts were weak. The reason Peyton won MVP was because he is all they have. They have no running game, the have a poor run defense, Marvin Harrison is done and key components in the defensive and offensive line have spent the season injured. The fact that they won wild card in the first place was all do to Peyton Manning.
San Diego and Ron RIvera, were an aggressive defensive unit, and it was known that either LT or DS were going to have a big running day. THIS WAS NOT A SURPRISE!!!!!!

1/4/09
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biskit67 wrote:

Dungy has enjoyed no success in the post season for the most part. I wonder if his coaching philosophy is flawed. The Colts never seem to have that playoff-wrinkle that other teams have. They do exactly the same thing in every game. Once teams have 16 games of film to study, they know how to stop the Colts.

You can put some of the blame on Manning as well I guess. For the most part in the last couple years, he has played pretty well in the playoffs. It's hard to be consistently success when the offense is basically one-dimensional. For instance on those third and shorts, where the heck was Najeh Davenport. I can appreciate he hasn't been on the roster for most of the season, but he has rushed the football recently. He's the biggest back on the team. If he can't slam through for a couple yards, that's pretty sad.

It will be interesting to see what happens next season because I think Dungy will call it quits. Caldwell will come in with new ideas I hope. Also, I really think Tom Moore needs to go as well. He's what, 70ish?

 

Dungy has also been to the playoffs as a coach for 10 years straight NO OTHER COACH HAS EVER DONE THAT!!!!! COACHING FLAW..... I do not think so. Do you recall the Buffalo Bills and how many times they made it to the super bowl and lost. Do you realize how much it would mean like a Kansas City or a Detroit to be in the playoffs at all, let alone 10 consecutive years!! Face it The Colts were just not that good this year, it was flash, mirrors and Manning that took them as far as they got. Why do you think Peyton won the MVP??????

1/4/09
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1/4/09
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jjh8857 wrote:
Dungy should never be allowed to coach again!  The Colts should cut Peyton Manning.  He is terrible.  I cannot believe he is on an NFL roster.
Wow - that's definitely more than a bold statement.  While I'm not a fan of Peyton's, I do know that he is a great QB, far better than most of them out there.....  And to say Dungy shouldn't be allowed to coach again - I'd take him over Herm Edwards anyday of the week!

1/4/09
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CrazyC wrote:
Wow - that's definitely more than a bold statement.  While I'm not a fan of Peyton's, I do know that he is a great QB, far better than most of them out there.....  And to say Dungy shouldn't be allowed to coach again - I'd take him over Herm Edwards anyday of the week!

I think (and hope) it was sarcasm.


1/4/09
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kantwistaye wrote:

I think (and hope) it was sarcasm.

I'll go with that theory then  

1/4/09
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OH DArn!! I See peytonrob in here!  SO he  will be upset with me for this comment I"m sure. 

 Trying to be respectful; Mr. Manning has always had a hard time winning big games. This goes back to his college days. If he would have won against UF during his time there Fulmer would still be UT's coach.

Oh & Crazy C That is correct, Dungy is a great coach he just has no one under him that has a set.
Don't get me wrong I still root for the Colts as a local boy, I just think they need someone with nuts at the helm.


1/4/09
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jjh8857 wrote:
Dungy should never be allowed to coach again!  The Colts should cut Peyton Manning.  He is terrible.  I cannot believe he is on an NFL roster.
Of course I was being sarcastic!

1/5/09
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I also want to give props to the Chargers they had a GREAT plan on D and I think that is why Manning looked bad.  Also gotta remember they know each other very very well so it's not like some team the have to kind of fact gather on.  That idea of moving their D and setting before the play at 10 secs was brilliant.  The problem is Manning/O Coord didn't adjust to that, the simple thing would have been to do one of 2 things, huddle or just snap the ball faster and change the intervals.

1/5/09
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TheBigThree wrote:
True 'dat.

But although there have been better cars than the Model T, it is celebrated for its timelessness.  So must she be celebrated.
hello?
how r u?

1/5/09
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hi?

1/23/09
1
Gooch_Gator wrote:

OH DArn!! I See peytonrob in here!  SO he  will be upset with me for this comment I"m sure. 

 Trying to be respectful; Mr. Manning has always had a hard time winning big games. This goes back to his college days. If he would have won against UF during his time there Fulmer would still be UT's coach.

Oh & Crazy C That is correct, Dungy is a great coach he just has no one under him that has a set.
Don't get me wrong I still root for the Colts as a local boy, I just think they need someone with nuts at the helm.

you are completely correct sir!!! lol and thanks for the reference... i only get on a few people that we always get into about manning....bottom line is you are correct he does hava a hard time winning the big ones,

My piece to everyone:
but why is it just him....The colts SUCKED this year......Manning was awesome.....thing of it is everyone has this expectation that peyton should win on his own with no help from his team......he did that 9 times in a row to get there but against a chargers team that he always struggles against, someone else needed to step up and no one did or does.....rarely does anyone else makea big play, THAT is the underlying problem of the colts....

1/23/09
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djjfrench wrote:
I also want to give props to the Chargers they had a GREAT plan on D and I think that is why Manning looked bad.  Also gotta remember they know each other very very well so it's not like some team the have to kind of fact gather on.  That idea of moving their D and setting before the play at 10 secs was brilliant.  The problem is Manning/O Coord didn't adjust to that, the simple thing would have been to do one of 2 things, huddle or just snap the ball faster and change the intervals.
man you are awesome, exactly what this site needs, open minded people who look at both sides of the ball.....

1/24/09
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RobPeyton wrote:
you are completely correct sir!!! lol and thanks for the reference... i only get on a few people that we always get into about manning....bottom line is you are correct he does hava a hard time winning the big ones,

My piece to everyone:
but why is it just him....The colts SUCKED this year......Manning was awesome.....thing of it is everyone has this expectation that peyton should win on his own with no help from his team......he did that 9 times in a row to get there but against a chargers team that he always struggles against, someone else needed to step up and no one did or does.....rarely does anyone else makea big play, THAT is the underlying problem of the colts....
Thanks P-rob, it would be nice if the Colts could find a battery or a single back that could do more for the team than 25-30 rushes for seems to be 65-80 a game. Until that happens opposing DE's & MLB's will line up with plates in hand to to get their cut of "prime" Manning with baked potato.

1/24/09
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Gooch_Gator wrote:
Thanks P-rob, it would be nice if the Colts could find a battery or a single back that could do more for the team than 25-30 rushes for seems to be 65-80 a game. Until that happens opposing DE's & MLB's will line up with plates in hand to to get their cut of "prime" Manning with baked potato.
exactly it changes the game tremendously glad others notice !!!! as a colts fan i am lucky he isnt throwing 4 interceptions a game with everyone playing the pass constantly......also their playing the pass and the running game is still ranked horribly....

1/24/09
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RobPeyton wrote:
exactly it changes the game tremendously glad others notice !!!! as a colts fan i am lucky he isnt throwing 4 interceptions a game with everyone playing the pass constantly......also their playing the pass and the running game is still ranked horribly....
But again maybe if you cheered a little harder...

1/25/09
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jjh8857 wrote:
But again maybe if you cheered a little harder...
lol or drank my beers the night before.......dam superstitions


 
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