IndyCar Dual in Detroit Live Thread

The IndyCars Play Two in Detroit [IndyCar Dual in Detroit Live Thread]

6/1/13 in IndyCar   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Blog Photo - IndyCar Dual in Detroit Live ThreadIndyCar fans are still trying to catch their breath from that incredible Indy 500, but the work for the teams and crews is never done, as the IndyCar Series gets back at it with a new wrinkle: a doubleheader. IndyCar will be running two full, points paying races this weekend at the Raceway at Belle Isle at Detroit. The first race is today and the second on Sunday, both at 3:30 on ABC. For the second straight year, Belle Isle follows Indianapolis, and the hope is it can't be worse than last year, when parts of the track broke up. Changes have been made though. The track has mostly been repaved, and they've gone to the longer route that was used in the late 90s under CART sanction. The hope is the new old route will allow for some sort of passing.

IndyCar has been unpredictable all year, and the grids for both races may be the most surprising yet. Dario Franchitti did qualify #1 for the first race. However, Dario is serving a 10 spot grid penalty for an unapproved engine change, dropping him to 11th. Thus, your first 3 rows for race #1: EJ Viso, Mike Conway, James Jakes, Ryan Hunter-Reay, Alex Tagliani, Tristan Vautier. With the exception of Hunter-Reay, did anyone see that coming? This will be the first time Viso ever leads the field to the green. Conway just found out he was getting the second Dale Coyne ride a few days ago, replacing Ana Beatriz (whose funding ran out). James Jakes is making easily his best ever start in IndyCar. Note those are four Hondas to two Chevys, which is much better for the Hondas than their rout at Indy at the hands of Chevy. Other notable starting spots in the first race: Takuma Sato 7th, Will Power 9th, Helio Castroneves 12th, points leader Marco Andretti 18th, and Indy 500 champ Tony Kanaan 19th.

Qualifying for the 2nd race was held this morning, and those at the top have stayed there. Conway put his car on the pole, in what is believed to be the first pole for Dale Coyne Racing ever (take note certain people who think the moneyed teams still win everything). Starting on the outside of the front row on Sunday will be Jakes, on what's looking like a breakthrough weekend. Power lurks in 3rd, closer to where he usually starts on road and street courses. Hunter-Reay and Viso are next as the continue to lead the Andretti contingent this week.

Street races are notoriously exhausting for the drivers, so how they hold up physically will be important to watch, especially tomorrow. How much equipment gets torn up in the first race will also effect the second race. It could be a long night for some crews.

Because of the unknown variables and the new names up top of the grid, I'm not going to bother making predictions. I just hope for some good racing and for the track to stay together this time. Timing and scoring can be found here, and More Front Wing's Event Summary can be found here. Q it up here throughout the Duals in Detroit.
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6/2/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Points Standings:

1. Helio Castroneves 206
1. Marco Andretti 206
3. Ryan Hunter-Reay -15
4. Scott Dixon -20
5. Simon Pagenaud -29
6. Takuma Sato -31
7. Justin Wilson -37
8. Tony Kanaan -46
9. James Hinchcliffe -52
10. Charlie Kimball -57

Franchitti is 11th. Power is tied for 15th with Newgarden. Simona is 17th. Conway is 22nd (more than Tags and Saavedra, who have run every race) despite only being in 3 of the 7 races.

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Results for the 2nd Dual in Detroit:

1. Simon Pagenaud (first career IndyCar victory for Simon, and first career IndyCar victory for Sam Schmidt Motorsports)
2. James Jakes (career high finish for Jakes)
3. Mike Conway (not a double win, but fantastic weekend for Conway)
4. Scott Dixon
5. Dario Franchitti
6. Marco Andretti
7. Charlie Kimball
8. Helio Castroneves
9. Graham Rahal
10. Sebastian Saavedra
11. Sebastien Bourdais
12. Tony Kanaan
13. Ryan Briscoe -1 lap
14. Tristan Vautier -1 lap
15. Ed Carpenter -4 laps
16. Josef Newgarden -6 laps
17. EJ Viso -9 laps
18. Ryan Hunter-Reay -11 laps
19. James Hinchcliffe -13 laps
20. Will Power -17 laps
21. Alex Tagliani DNF (Contact)
22. Justin Wilson DNF (Contact)
23. Takuma Sato DNF (Contact)
24. Simona de Silvestro DNF (Contact)
25. AJ Allmendinger DNF (Contact)

First half of the race overall was a disaster, but the second half had its moments to salvage the afternoon. Points standings to come, but to preview it, Helio and Marco are tied for the lead, even though neither have a win this year.

6/2/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Simon Pagenaud wins the second Dual in Detroit! The podium is Pagenaud, Jakes, and Conway! Schmidt, Rahal, and Coyne. No Penske. No Ganassi. Those two still don't have a win after 7 races this year. Full results to come.

6/2/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

The lead has grown for Pagenaud. Looking good for him.

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It's actually Jakes catching up to Pagenaud, not Conway catching up to Jakes. 2.8 second lead with 7 to go.

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It's 3.4 seconds from Pagenaud to Jakes, 5.1 to Conway. Jakes is on reds, other two on blacks. 10 to go.

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Jakes pits. Pagenaud inherits the lead, but Jakes is still in 2nd. Conway in 3rd with 12 laps to go.

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Conway to third by Dario. He's 6 seconds behind Pagenaud. Jakes still leads, up 22 seconds on Simon. Yes, James Jakes might win.

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Wait a minute. Pagenaud got out ahead of Dario and Conway. Jakes leads and still has to pit.

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Pagenaud and Jakes lead, but have to pit. Real battle for the lead looks to be between Dario and Conway. Not surprisingly for the week, Conway is gaining quickly.

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Wow. Three wide between Conway, Vautier, and Kimball, with Graham getting involved for good measure. Somehow they all got through.

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Wow. Kimball passes Conway. My guess is Conway went too hard early on the reds and they're cooked. Pagenaud going for 2nd now.

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Kimball is closing on Conway fast. Dixon, Pagenaud, and Rahal round out the top 5.

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Conway already back into the lead.

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Bourdais gets his deserved drive through penalty. Conway is flying through the field.

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So, here are the 13 cars on the lead lap: TK, Vautier, Dario, Bourdais (no penalty?), Marco, Kimball, Dixon, Conway, Pagenaud, Rahal, Saavedra, Jakes, Helio

6/2/13   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

10 car incident. Started by Bourdais punting Power in turn 1 (Will threw his gloves at Bourdais). Also involved: Saavedra, Hinchcliffe, Briscoe, Viso, Tagliani, Carpenter, Wilson, and Newgarden.

During the caution, Conway and Dixon pitted, among others. TK now leads.

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Restart was an absolute mess. Multiple cars involved. MOAR DERP

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It's a crappy DERPfest right now. No other way to put it.

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Top 4 are Conway, Dixon, Kimball, and Wilson. They have not pit yet.

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Debris caution. Bunch of guys got lucky and could come in immediately. Conway though is still out there. The yellow came out right after he went by pit lane.

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It's a slow burn DERP fest right now. Contact between Viso and Helio damages Viso's wing, and now Hunter-Reay hits where Simona did, but he does keep it going.

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Didn't get one lap into the restart as Tags makes contact with someone, looks like Carpenter.

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Yellow for Simona. Car just wouldn't turn and hit hard in the tires. Lots of cars pit immediately.

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Power somehow led at the restart, but Conway blew right by him and is gone.

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We're green for race two, but once again Allmendinger wrecks on the first lap. Nightmare weekend for him. He did sprain his thumb in yesterday's crash, which might have been a factor. Ditto the rebuilt car, or help from someone else.

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Here is the starting grid for Race 2:

Row 1: Conway, Jakes
Row 2: Power, Hunter-Reay
Row 3: Viso, Pagenaud
Row 4: Dixon, Wilson
Row 5: Castroneves, Hinchcliffe
Row 6: Saavedra, Allmendinger
Row 7: Briscoe, Andretti
Row 8: Rahal, Franchitti
Row 9: de Silvestro, Kimball
Row 10: Kanaan, Vautier
Row 11: Sato, Bourdais
Row 12: Carpenter, Newgarden
Row 13: Tagliani

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Results for the Indy Dual in Detroit, Race 1:

1. Mike Conway (an one-off driver for Coyne's second car dominated the race, think about that for a second)
2. Ryan Hunter-Reay
3. Justin Wilson (I'm guessing this is the first time Coyne has occupied two steps on the podium)
4. Scott Dixon (great comeback after the first lap incident)
5. Helio Castroneves
6. Dario Franchitti
7. Josef Newgarden (no idea how he got this far up, but great run for Josef)
8. Will Power
9. Graham Rahal (another guy who I'm not sure how he got his far up)
10. James Jakes
11. Tristan Vautier
12. Simon Pagenaud
13. Tony Kanaan (he was incredible on restarts again, but never really had the car, as shown in the second half of the race)
14. Charlie Kimball
15. James Hinchcliffe
16. Simona de Silvestro
17. EJ Viso
18. Ed Carpenter -1 lap
19. Takuma Sato -2 laps (they ran him out of fuel early, ruining his day)
20. Marco Andretti -3 laps (had an incident with Kimball and spent some time in the pits, amazingly he hasn't complained about it on Twitter yet)
21. Ryan Briscoe DNF (Contact)
22. Sebastian Saavedra DNF (Contact)
23. Alex Tagliani DNF (Contact)
24. Sebastien Bourdais DNF (Mechanical)
25. AJ Allmendinger DNF (Contact)

Helio has the points lead now, but obviously that could change tomorrow. I'll post the starting grid for tomorrow shortly.

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(Edited by Eric_)

Mike Conway wins the first Dual in Detroit! Justin Wilson gives Dale Coyne two cars on the podium! Full results to come.

Edit: Results are going to take a while because timing and scoring erased the results rather quickly. There were quite a bit of "how did he get there?" in the results, both good and bad.

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Wilson, Dixon, Helio, and Dario in a battle for 3rd.

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Conway's lead is still huge with 7 to go. Even with the reds dropping off quickly, he should be fine as long as he keeps it clean.

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Vautier pits, so Hunter-Reay has clear track now, but with 11 to go, is running out of time.

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Note that Hunter-Reay is behind Vautier still, who I'm pretty sure still has to pit. Jakes (who I think also still has to pit) and Wilson round out the top 5. In fact, Jakes just came in.

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Wilson pits, and the leader is once again Conway. He leads RHR by 15.6 seconds with 14 to go.

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Conway pits. He has to 18 laps on the reds. Wilson leads for now, but still has to pit.

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For Conway, it's all about getting as big a gap he can on the blacks before he pits and puts on reds (which he must put on). Hunter-Reay has already pitted and put on blacks.

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(Edited by Eric_)

Rain might be on the way. That would be good for Conway because he hasn't run on the reds yet. The reds fall off so fast that he'd be a sitting duck to Hunter-Reay on blacks (presumably that's what RHR will put on on the last pit stop).

One plus for Conway is he's already up 9 second on Hunter-Reay, with Wilson in 3rd 16 seconds back.

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Conway takes the lead. Conway is on blacks, RHR on reds. The reds have been falling off very quickly.

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Restart. Power to 3rd, TK up to 4th, but once again RHR and Conway have checked out. Hinchcliffe got a tire from the barrier stuck in his car, and he must pit.

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Saavedra into the tires gives us on 3rd caution of the day. The Target boys have been on the move. Dario got by Power for 3rd on the restart, while Dixon is up all to way to 7th.

Saavedra just double birded someone.

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A really long caution gets longer as Tagliani puts into the tires under the yellow.

Top 10: Hunter-Reay, Conway, Power, Franchitti, Castroneves, Wilson, Pagenaud, Jakes, Kanaan, Newgarden

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(Edited by Eric_)

There's been action midpack, but at the front it is all Mike Conway.

Yellow for Tagliani and Sato being off course in separate incidents. Conway was in the pits as it happened.

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This is Bourdais's 100th career IndyCar (and other various sanctioning) start, but something is wrong and he's been in the pits for a long time.

Pit stops starting for those who didn't pit early for strategy reasons.

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Viso has boost issues and is moving backwards.

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They restart and Power is on the move. He's up to 4th already.

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And yes, we have yet more proof that the rear wheel guards don't do anything.

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Scary incident on lap one. Allmendinger gets airborne (not a lot, but he did) after running over Dixon. He was squeeze between Dixon and Wilson.

Conway did take the lead on the start from Viso.

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To review all the driver changes:

-As said before, Mike Conway is in the #18 Dale Coyne machine, replacing Ana Beatriz, who ran out of funds (at least for now).
-Unfortunately, Dreyer & Reinbold have in fact suspended operations, meaning Oriol Servia is sitting out the weekend. He has a future option though in...
-Panther Racing, who essentially fired JR Hildebrand. I had a feeling this might happen after his 33rd place finish at Indy. Ryan Briscoe will drive the National Guard #4 this week. No word on who will drive it going forward.