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2/23/07
It's no Wonderlic that Jeff George scored a 10
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Outstanding rundown this morning by Rumors and Rants on the Wonderlic Test being administrated this week at the NFL Combines in Indianapolis.

Complete with a Sample Version Here. Favorite question by far ... and it's a doozy.

9. The ninth month of the year is:

    October
    January
    June
    September
    May

Also highlighted are some of the QBs cores from over the years where for the most part is appears somewhat applicable. Some notables:
Matt Leinart, USC - 35
Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt - 26
Vince Young, Texas - 6, 16 (these are disputed, there are no clear reports of what he actually scored)
Marcus Vick, Virginia Tech - 11
Alex Smith, Utah - 40
Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (Ohio) - 25
Eli Manning, Ole Miss - 39
Drew Henson, Michigan - 42
Tony Romo, Eastern Illinois - 30
Rex Grossman, Florida - 29
Kyle Boller, Cal - 27
Carson Palmer, USC - 26
Drew Brees, Purdue - 28
Michael Vick, Virginia Tech - 20
Quincy Carter, Georgia - 30 (This has to be a misprint)
Tim Couch, Kentucky - 22
Ryan Leaf, Washington State - 27
Peyton Manning, Tennessee - 25
Kerry Collins, Penn State - 30
Steve McNair, Alcorn State - 15
Kordell Stewart, Colorado - 12
But my highlight from this test, besides last years overreaction on Vince Young, is the case of Akili Smith. If this wasn't a red flag I'm not sure what is. Leave it to the Bengals:
Akili Smith, Oregon - 37, 15 (apparently many people feel Smith cheated off of his teammate Jason Maas on his first attempt. Maas scored a 43 that same year.)
Do you think this test is worth all the attention is gets?

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2/23/07
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What exactly are the questions that are on the Wonderlic test?

2/23/07
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I think to much is made of this test every year.  Look at Drew Hensen nice score, but he wasn't smart enough to pick which sport he should be playing.  Carson Palmer scored OK and he is running a no huddle call the plays at the line offense.

 

Akili Smith just wasn't good.  Regardless of what his score on that test would have been or was, he is not a good QB flat out. 

 

All I'm wondering is what Gus Ferrotte got on this test because he is about the dumbest QB of all time (i.e. running his head into the padding and hurting himself or trying to complete a pass left handed)


2/23/07
0
I think an interesting trend is that the top prospects are scoring very high (Leinart, Eli Manning, Alex Smith). It has been rumored that the top agents are "tutoring" their clients on how to score higher.

2/23/07
2
What were the Colts thinking taking Manning first!?!?!?  Leaf outscored Manning 27-25 on the Wonderlic!!!  Hope that one doesn't come back to bite them... 

2/23/07
1
(Edited by kantwistaye)
Who did Grossman cheat off of?

2/23/07
0
For the record, I scored a 15 out of 15 on the sample test

2/23/07
0
when peyton manning scores a 25 and kerry collins a 30 i think you can throw the scores out the window.

2/23/07
2
If you graduate college, you should be able to get at least 35 on that test given the questions on the test are all like the ones in the sample.  What this test really proves is that obviously some schools dont care about academics when football players are involved.  How do you only score a 6, you should have at least 8 from the questions included in the sample.

2/23/07
0
Tron wrote:
For the record, I scored a 15 out of 15 on the sample test
I didn't look at the answers... but they weren't too difficult. Only 1 that I'm not gonna bother with.

2/23/07
0

The scores don't seem to mean anything on the football field. Who had the better career, Ryan Leaf with his score of 27, or Steve McNair with his score of 15?

 

Looking at those scores, I can't help but wonder if there is somewhat of a racial bias to the test. If you put those scores in order from highest to lowest, all the black QBs would be at the bottom of the list. I find it very hard to believe that all white QBs are smarter than all black QBs.


2/23/07
0
Jon wrote:

The scores don't seem to mean anything on the football field. Who had the better career, Ryan Leaf with his score of 27, or Steve McNair with his score of 15?

 

Looking at those scores, I can't help but wonder if there is somewhat of a racial bias to the test. If you put those scores in order from highest to lowest, all the black QBs would be at the bottom of the list. I find it very hard to believe that all white QBs are smarter than all black QBs.

Its interesting and could be true.  I guess I'd use Troy Smith as a barometer to see if your theory might be true.  To me, he seems like a very smart guy, so I would expect him to do well on the Wonderlic.  Either way I don't think it matters too much, I mean Leaf got a 27, Eli got a 39, but Peyton got a 25?  Also Greg Doyle got a 32 (he took it so he could write an article on it).  The average American scores a 21 (theres a bunch of different companies that use this test).

2/23/07
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average score by position in the nfl:

Average score by ordinary people:

 

Also, according to an article, Ryan Fitzpatrick (St. Louis Rams) Scored atleast a 49/50


2/23/07
1

Thought you all might find this tidbit interesting:

 

COMBINE SURPRISE FOR WONDERLICKERS

We've previously heard rumblings about some potentially big changes for the Wonderlic test that is administered at the combine.  And a league source has told us conclusively that the guys in Indy will see a Wonderlic that is far different than the versions of the test that have migrated over the years into the hands of agents.

Some agents use the versions of the test to get their clients ready.  And, in some cases, the results have been dramatic.

Many players with one year of college eligibility remaining initially take the Wonderlic test in conjunction with the Pro Day workout at each school.  It gives the player some experience with the intelligence exam, which the NFL has been giving to incoming players for decades.  And it also gives the teams a baseline number.

In the past, the scores for some players have rocketed from the teens to the thirties, in less than a year.

With a new test that no one has seen, the prior versions will be useless.

The Wonderlic organization, we're told, is administering the test.  As we mentioned earlier today, the results will be scored off site.  No one from any of the teams or from the combine will be involved in any way with the tests or with the grading of the tests. 

The results then will be sent only to Jeff Foster, who now runs the combine, and Foster will send them to the head of football operations with each team.  "It's his job to keep the results secret," said the source.  "If a score gets out, a G.M. is to blame." 

The reaction in league circles is positive, because the test results can be trusted.

At least for this year.


2/24/07
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CriticalFanatic wrote:
Outstanding rundown this morning by Rumors and Rants on the Wonderlic Test being administrated this week at the NFL Combines in Indianapolis.

Complete with a Sample Version Here. Favorite question by far ... and it's a doozy.

9. The ninth month of the year is:

    October
    January
    June
    September
    May

Also highlighted are some of the QBs cores from over the years where for the most part is appears somewhat applicable. Some notables:
Matt Leinart, USC - 35
Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt - 26
Vince Young, Texas - 6, 16 (these are disputed, there are no clear reports of what he actually scored)
Marcus Vick, Virginia Tech - 11
Alex Smith, Utah - 40
Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (Ohio) - 25
Eli Manning, Ole Miss - 39
Drew Henson, Michigan - 42
Tony Romo, Eastern Illinois - 30
Rex Grossman, Florida - 29
Kyle Boller, Cal - 27
Carson Palmer, USC - 26
Drew Brees, Purdue - 28
Michael Vick, Virginia Tech - 20
Quincy Carter, Georgia - 30 (This has to be a misprint)
Tim Couch, Kentucky - 22
Ryan Leaf, Washington State - 27
Peyton Manning, Tennessee - 25
Kerry Collins, Penn State - 30
Steve McNair, Alcorn State - 15
Kordell Stewart, Colorado - 12
But my highlight from this test, besides last years overreaction on Vince Young, is the case of Akili Smith. If this wasn't a red flag I'm not sure what is. Leave it to the Bengals:
Akili Smith, Oregon - 37, 15 (apparently many people feel Smith cheated off of his teammate Jason Maas on his first attempt. Maas scored a 43 that same year.)
Do you think this test is worth all the attention is gets?

Source: (Rumors and Rants)
it's worth the attention if it's geared in the right direction.  the message shouldn't involve race, but revolve around the real issue, how academics are undermined for the glory of the game, but being a sports fan...i won't go there...ha ha.

 
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