Jay Cutler Trade Worked Out Well For Both The Broncos And Bears

Contrary To What Some May Say, The Jay Cutler Trade Is A Rare Win-Win Scenario

4/2/09 in NFL   |   sharapovasthigh   |   respect

Editor's note: I just wrote a post about how the Cutler trade was basically a bad trade for both teams. Naturally, there are dissenting views, including that of our friend Matt, from over at Sharapova's Thigh. Here's his take on it, since (as you'll see in a moment), he has a pretty unique perspective. Enjoy.

I'm a Chicago Bears fan that lives in Colorado, so when the Jay Cutler trade went down today, all hell broke loose for me here. I've watched every game of the Bears and Broncos for years and follow each team closely, so I'm well familiar with each team and what they need. Today, they both came out winners in this deal, which is something you rarely see in trades.

I wrote on my blog "Sharapova's Thigh" today about my view on this as a Bears fan. To sum it up, I'm freaking thrilled. Never in my lifetime have the Bears had a quarterback of Cutler's caliber. The last Pro Bowl quarterback they had was Jim McMahon in 1985. Cutler's probably the most talented quarterback in the NFL right now. His decision-making and leadership abilities are the only things holding him back from stepping up into the next tier of quarterbacks such as Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. He may never get there, but he's incredible talent and still a top 5-10 QB, and just 25 years old.

Cutler immediately makes them a much better team and possibly the favorites in the NFC North. His ability to stretch the field will open up running lanes for second-year running back Matt Forte. His tremendous ability to throw the deep ball will get the most out of wide receiver Devin Hester, who improved greatly at the position last season. Numerous times he got open 30+ yards downfield but Orton was unable to get enough on the throw to hit Hester. Cutler will.

Good quarterback play is necessary to win championships, usually great quarterback play unless you have a 1985 Bears or 2000 Ravens defense. Anyway, I could give countless reasons on why this is a great deal for the Bears and I provided many of them in my blog post so check that out. Really, I wanted to explain why this is also a good trade for the Broncos because I'm seeing a lot of fellow Coloradoans for example freaking out over this trade, trashing Kyle Orton. Well I've got news for you: Kyle Orton is a good quarterback and will do just fine for the Broncos.

Orton was terrific for the Bears last season prior to his ankle injury. He was getting plenty of zip on his throws, tossing darts all over the field on passes within 25 yards. He had thrown 10 touchdown passes with an awful group of receivers, and just 4 interceptions. He finished the season 18 passing touchdowns, 12 interceptions, and a 79.6 QB rating. However, those numbers really aren't a fair way to judge his season. Anybody that watched the Bears each week could see he wasn't getting any drive off his right ankle and couldn't make the same throws he was making prior to the injury. The Bears rushed him back from injury at least two weeks before he was supposed to return as they wanted him to help beat the Green Bay Packers in what was a huge game at the time. Instead he was clearly hurting, they lost 37-3, and he wasn't 100% for the rest of the season.

Now Orton goes to a quarterback-friendly system with terrific weapons surrounding him like Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal. As I've said and it's been well-documented, Orton struggles with throwing the deep ball, but he's very good within 25 yards. He didn't have wide receivers that would just get separation and catch the ball consistently last season, now he does. I expect him to put up very similar numbers to Cutler this year. He's also a great leader and is very respected by his teammates.

Additionally, they are loaded in the draft now. With the two first rounders and the third rounder they got today from the Bears(by the way, the Bears just got a compensatory third round pick on March 23rd so that gave them more flexibility to make this deal), they now have five selections in the first 84 picks in the draft. They can do a lot to fix up their defense which is by far their biggest problem, and it also gives them more flexibility if they would like to make another trade this offseason.

Look, are the Broncos a "better" team right now than they were before the trade? Absolutely not, but it's a mess that they(Josh McDaniels) created and couldn't get out of, and this was the best possible deal they could hope for in return.

And the Bears, well they got a franchise quarterback in the first time since... pretty much forever. Considering the situations, this was a good day for both teams.
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4/4/09   |   shrikantaasopa

sharapovasthigh wrote:
Thanks. Well I didn't mean his arm strength exactly, but that he couldn't get the same drive off his back leg which is crucial in providing throwing power. He couldn't step into his throws. Still, yeah, he's very inaccurate on deep passes and frequently underthrows receivers on them. Hester outran his passes many times. I think the Broncos will use him correctly though and he'll be very efficient for them. He certainly won't be the reason they fail. They've got a ton of fixing up to do on that defense.

4/4/09   |   IlliniBob72   |   83 respect

dumpsterdave6 wrote:
The Bears not taking Cutler because they don't have any wide receivers is like turning down a million dollars in cash because you don't have a suitcase.

LOL No kidding! No team should ever improve itself. Why improve at RB when your OL sucks? Why improve at WR if your QB sucks? Why improve at DB if you have no pass rush? This is getting insane.

4/3/09   |   dumpsterdave6   |   1 respect

WhoDat12 wrote:
I think its a LOSE-LOSE for both teams.  Cutler goes to a team with a run-oriented offense and a collection of #3 receivers.  Orton goes to a team with a wide open offense that fully exposes his lack of arm strength. I'm not seeing the good in it for anyone.

The Bears not taking Cutler because they don't have any wide receivers is like turning down a million dollars in cash because you don't have a suitcase.

4/3/09   |   ianthesurveyer

(Edited by ianthesurveyer)

Kyle orton did a pretty good job last season with no targets. He now has super targets. If the O line can get him protection, every receiver that the Broncos have is a great receiver. He may not be able to get the long bomb but he is pretty accurate within 25 - 30 yards. You put that with all the new addition that were made in the Free Agency round up and the Broncos have the potential to have a great team this season. Cutler now has to go to the Bears with less that stellar receivers and no first round draft picks. Let the whining continue.

4/3/09   |   nyrangers   |   192 respect

OK, now can we PLEASE stop talking about him??? ESPN, I'm looking at you!!!

4/3/09   |   primo   |   1 respect

orton will be good. cutler will be grossman

4/3/09   |   MizzouVic

I will say this.  I think Cutler gives the Bears a slightly better team this coming season.  But over a four year period, this deal is WAY better for the Broncos....operating on the assumption they will draft even averagely well with the three picks.  Plus, Orton gives them at least a average get-me-by at QB while they figure it out.  Cutler's behavior is a major red flag to me and I think expecting him to be a legitimate leader is leaping to false conclusion.

4/3/09   |   IlliniBob72   |   83 respect

WhoDat12 wrote:
I think its a LOSE-LOSE for both teams.  Cutler goes to a team with a run-oriented offense and a collection of #3 receivers.  Orton goes to a team with a wide open offense that fully exposes his lack of arm strength. I'm not seeing the good in it for anyone.

I've heard many people make the mistake of assuming that the Bears offense of the last few years is the offense Cutler will have to get used to. If the Bears threw only 18-22 times a game last season, it is only because it was Orton doing the throwing. Back in the 90's with Turner the OC and Erik Kramer at QB, the Bears threw plenty. Kurt Kittner set Illini records under Ron Turner. Turner likes to throw with the best of them. He just needs a QB that can do it. He has one now.

4/3/09   |   Rrbhaunoch   |   9 respect

(Edited by Rrbhaunoch)

Hey, as far as I'm concerned trading 2 first round draft picks is a steal for a proven commodity and top 10 QB like Cutler.  I've always loved Cutler, and you can find some posts that I made last season that I wish that the bears would aquire him, and that he was in the running for my MVP of the league through 8 games or so...

That being said, 2 first round draft picks is not a big deal.  If you take the last 15 or so first round draft picks the bears made, take out Urlacher and Harris, and I'd give all of the rest of them for Jay Cutler. 

I mean, if we are giving up a cedric benson, michael haynes, rex grossman, marc columbo, david terrel, cade mcnown, curtis enis, curtis conway, alonzo spellman, stan thomas, mark carrier, and donnel woolford (which leaves us with chris williams, greg olsen, harris, and urlacher), I'd be so so happy with that trade.  First round draft picks are way overpaid anyway, so the idea of trading out of the first round is preferable with a 50/50 boom to bust ratio (or way more than 50% bust in the bears case)

4/3/09   |   jswol54   |   20819 respect

WhoDat12 wrote:
I think its a LOSE-LOSE for both teams.  Cutler goes to a team with a run-oriented offense and a collection of #3 receivers.  Orton goes to a team with a wide open offense that fully exposes his lack of arm strength. I'm not seeing the good in it for anyone.

Disagree.  The Bears passed more than ever last year, especially with Forte out of the backfield.  This is in part due to the fact that every team stacked 8 guys in the box.  Cutler's arm strength will also help him later in the season when the conditions become bad at Soldier Field.  I do agree with Orton not being a good fit in Denver.

4/3/09   |   WhoDat12   |   2252 respect

I think its a LOSE-LOSE for both teams.  Cutler goes to a team with a run-oriented offense and a collection of #3 receivers.  Orton goes to a team with a wide open offense that fully exposes his lack of arm strength. I'm not seeing the good in it for anyone.

4/3/09   |   boose51   |   1 respect

 For sure there is a chance that Cutler stinks up the place, but Chicago is a better team with him.  With that said they need to get him some help.  A good receiver with their first pick would of helped Orton.  Now they have Cutler and no number 1 pick, so they have to get help some other way...Hester is not ready to be the go to guy, plus they need him to continue doing what he does on special teams..  

4/3/09   |   100%InjuryRate   |   1283 respect

Neckbeard = win. Always.

4/3/09   |   jswol54   |   20819 respect

keppieboy wrote:
 Nice job. I hope Orton becomes a hof quaterback and Cutler fizzles.

lol, I hope CC tears his rotator cuff.

4/3/09   |   sharapovasthigh

Heyhey1970 wrote:
Good stuff, Matt.  That was a nice read.  I don't agree with you that Kyle Orton's lack of arm strength is completely related to his injury, but he should beat out Chris Simms for Denver's starting job. 

Thanks. Well I didn't mean his arm strength exactly, but that he couldn't get the same drive off his back leg which is crucial in providing throwing power. He couldn't step into his throws. Still, yeah, he's very inaccurate on deep passes and frequently underthrows receivers on them. Hester outran his passes many times. I think the Broncos will use him correctly though and he'll be very efficient for them. He certainly won't be the reason they fail. They've got a ton of fixing up to do on that defense.

4/3/09   |   dumpsterdave6   |   1 respect

A bonus is that the Broncos have spent 17 million dollars to develop Cutler for the Bears.

4/3/09   |   uptown7010

(Edited by uptown7010)

This is just what the doctors ordered for all Bears fans. Not that Kyle Orton was a bad quarterback, he was a victim of indecision. Jay Cutler Lost Confidence in The Bronco organization so a trade had to be done. Better NOW than later. The Broncos had to support their coach and I do believe they didn't want this to happen, because NOW they are officially rebuilding again. Maybe this time they can rebuild their defense to go with their offense.

4/3/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

keppieboy wrote:
 Nice job. I hope Orton becomes a hof quaterback and Cutler fizzles.

It's possible that Cutler could fizzle, but if you're watching TV one day and Kyle Orton is being inducted into the Hall-of-Fame, someone has put a foreign substance in your beer and you should seek immediate medical attention.  He doesn't have that kind of talent.

4/3/09   |   keppieboy   |   158 respect

 Nice job. I hope Orton becomes a hof quaterback and Cutler fizzles.

4/3/09   |   MarkTheShark   |   590 respect

I think the Bears, more specifically Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith, have now put themselves in a precarious position. This isn't a: 'oh we traded for draft picks to build' trade this is a 'you better WIN NOW!' trade for them.
If Cutler has mis-steps early, the Chicago media will be all over him. The Bears put themselves at severe risk.

Meanwhile, McDaniels is now salvaging his tarnished rep. He has alienated his fans with this whole mess of his doing, BUT he now has wiggle room because if the revamped defense comes alive and Orton utilizes his weapons behind a better OL than he had in Chicago, then he comes out smelling like a rose.

Because of the origin of this whole mess, I'm inclined to agree with your mate: this was a lose-lose trade.

4/2/09   |   Heyhey1970   |   194 respect

Good stuff, Matt.  That was a nice read.  I don't agree with you that Kyle Orton's lack of arm strength is completely related to his injury, but he should beat out Chris Simms for Denver's starting job.