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7/25/09
Jeff Gordon Won't Run Indy 500
Jeff Gordon Admits - Much As He'd Love To - He Won't Run The Indy 500 Any Time Soon
Okay, I guess you can call me a s*** stirrer.  I sure seem to get some people riled up when I report on drivers, be they NASCAR drivers or IRL drivers, voicing a desire to try another series.

My take on this is, if they are successful in one series and want to move over and try another series, let them at it.  Nowhere have I said that I think any driver should be able to just jump into a top level car and drive in a race - to do so would be asinine, in my opinion.  Drivers who have already run in the Midgets or the World of Outlaw cars, or other dirt track cars? Of course, that's a no brainer.  Even those who never have run on a dirt track have come over to try it, and said it was the best time they've had.  Still, they had to learn how to drive the car.

The same thing in the top series, whether it be NASCAR Sprint Cup or the Indy Racing League.  Any driver in those series didn't get there by sending out an application and going for a job interview.  They have to prove they are capable of handling the car, and handling it well enough not to crash it and destroy it on the first lap. 

It doesn't matter if they are moving from IRL to NASCAR or from NASCAR to IRL.

Well, Jeff Gordon agrees.  Sort of.

"You have to know the cars and do laps with the cars to know what you’re doing,” he said at this week’s NASCAR stop. “If say, you wanted to go run around at 210 mph, I could do that, but I wouldn’t have much fun doing that because I like being competitive.”

I'm not sure that he is acknowledging that he could step into a premiere Indy car, should he want to or not.  The important thing is, he acknowledges to do so would be dangerous.

“I don’t think that’s going to happen as long as I’m running a full-time (NASCAR) schedule,” he said. “As a driver I have so much respect for IndyCars. It’s not like if I had an off-weekend, I would go run 230 mph laps.”

What of other NASCAR drivers who have expressed an interest in running the Indianapolis 500?  Dale Jr has said he would like to, and also says,

"Should the schedules work out one day, I think you’ll find a lot of (NASCAR) guys interested in coming here and running the Indy 500,” said Earnhardt, who was at the track to promote the July 26 Allstate 400 at the Brickyard.

Tony Stewart, Robby Gordon and John Andretti have all done the double header, competing first in the Indy 500, then later in the day in the Coca Cola 600, with Smoke finding the most success in doing so. 

Jeff Backus, however, has said he sees no possibility of the Indianapolis 500 schedule changing, however, making this all just speculation and s*** stirring anyway.
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7/26/09
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Go Tony make my Son Happy today! We are from Indiana too.

7/25/09
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It doesn't matter if they are moving from IRL to NASCAR or from NASCAR to IRL.

It matters for perception reasons. When an IndyCar drivers moves to NASCAR and takes a while to get good, the narrative isn't "hey, adjusting and learning a whole car is difficult and time consuming," it's "open wheel drivers suck." Even when stock car drivers acknowledge that *they'd* need time if they were to switch, comments like Waltrip's show that the message isn't being received. What sucks is due to the circumstances regarding IndyCar's health compared to NASCAR, no NASCAR driver worth anything would ever switch, so there's no way to prove either claim.

OK, I don't want to piss you off anymore than I already have, Debi, so I'll shut up now.

7/25/09
2
I think it would be interesting to see these guys race this one....it's a dangerous game...the speed...the quickness. I just recently was at a Nascar race....thought that was fast but know damned well hopw fast these cars go!!! It certainly would be a challenge...

7/25/09
1
gearhead wrote:
It doesn't matter if they are moving from IRL to NASCAR or from NASCAR to IRL.

It matters for perception reasons. When an IndyCar drivers moves to NASCAR and takes a while to get good, the narrative isn't "hey, adjusting and learning a whole car is difficult and time consuming," it's "open wheel drivers suck." Even when stock car drivers acknowledge that *they'd* need time if they were to switch, comments like Waltrip's show that the message isn't being received. What sucks is due to the circumstances regarding IndyCar's health compared to NASCAR, no NASCAR driver worth anything would ever switch, so there's no way to prove either claim.

OK, I don't want to piss you off anymore than I already have, Debi, so I'll shut up now.
But this isn't about PERCEPTION reasons! I don't care if NASCAR is perceived as being the series with the stronger fan base, it is going to be equally hard for a driver to move to a series they have not had experience in and succeed.  If IRL wants the NASCAR drivers, that is their problem, not mine. Just like NASCAR wants Danica for what she could bring moneywise.

But my point isn't about the money, it's about could they do it? and no, I don't think it matters which way they are going, it is unrealistic to expect them to go to the top tier.

Damn, I said I wasn't gonna debate this any more

7/25/09
1
JrCanuckFan wrote:
But this isn't about PERCEPTION reasons! I don't care if NASCAR is perceived as being the series with the stronger fan base, it is going to be equally hard for a driver to move to a series they have not had experience in and succeed.  If IRL wants the NASCAR drivers, that is their problem, not mine. Just like NASCAR wants Danica for what she could bring moneywise.

But my point isn't about the money, it's about could they do it? and no, I don't think it matters which way they are going, it is unrealistic to expect them to go to the top tier.

Damn, I said I wasn't gonna debate this any more
I know you think that Debi, but the perception *in general* is that IndyCar drivers are inferior to NASCAR drivers, and a big part of that is these jumpers and their results. With no chance of a NASCAR driver moving to IndyCar full time in the forseeable future, it can't be seen first hand that they'd struggle too at the outset. Thus, the perception is unchallenged and you get comments like Waltrip's. That's what I'm saying.

7/25/09
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gearhead wrote:
I know you think that Debi, but the perception *in general* is that IndyCar drivers are inferior to NASCAR drivers, and a big part of that is these jumpers and their results. With no chance of a NASCAR driver moving to IndyCar full time in the forseeable future, it can't be seen first hand that they'd struggle too at the outset. Thus, the perception is unchallenged and you get comments like Waltrip's. That's what I'm saying.
Well, you KNOW I don't perceive IRL drivers to be inferior in any way. That Dario could not do squat in NASCAR, yet can dominate in IRL has to say something

7/26/09
1
JrCanuckFan wrote:
Well, you KNOW I don't perceive IRL drivers to be inferior in any way. That Dario could not do squat in NASCAR, yet can dominate in IRL has to say something
Yeah, that he didn't forget how to drive an IndyCar.

7/26/09
2
gearhead wrote:
Yeah, that he didn't forget how to drive an IndyCar.
how about that he's just talented, period?

7/26/09
1
Nobody, whether they're going from IRL to NASCAR or the other way around is going to go to the opposite series and be lightning in a bottle like Tony Stewart.  I think that's why a lot of NASCAR fans are so closed-minded, they probably expect these open-wheel guys to come in and have instant success.  It's not going to happen.  Montoya and Allmendinger are perfect examples of guys who are showing tremendous improvement this year, and it's their 3rd full season and the first time AJ is in the race very week.  Of course Dario went to an organization that hasn't had success in 7 years, so the adjustments plus going to a has-been team were a recipe for instant failure IMHO no matter who stepped into that car.  Gordon would have a huge adjustment going from NASCAR to the IRL just the same.  It's 2 completely different worlds, and regardless of perception, the adjustments are major and there's no reason to think that drivers from NASCAR wouldn't struggle if they went to the IRL the same way the IRL drivers have struggled going to stock cars.

7/26/09
3
big daddy has been racing almost his intire life , i dont think no matter where he goes , once he breaks in , it 's all over but the crying

7/26/09
4
Go Tony make my Son Happy today! We are from Indiana too.

7/26/09
0
carol_chesnes86 wrote:
I think it would be interesting to see these guys race this one....it's a dangerous game...the speed...the quickness. I just recently was at a Nascar race....thought that was fast but know damned well hopw fast these cars go!!! It certainly would be a challenge...
you should race..lol..you got the foot for it...

7/26/09
0
Hey Mike...I should race....my town loves me...Indy and Nascar...here I come!!! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....I still take these sports damn seriously tho...y'gotta know what you are doing...bottom line...

7/26/09
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I am talking about the cops when Isay my town loves me....heheheheee

7/26/09
1
nascarguru wrote:
big daddy has been racing almost his intire life , i dont think no matter where he goes , once he breaks in , it 's all over but the crying
yes he is a cry baby..sorry hon, tonys got this one!!!!!!lol

7/27/09
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carol_chesnes86 wrote:
I am talking about the cops when Isay my town loves me....heheheheee
WHATS HAPPENING WITH BOSTON...GOOD THING ITS A LONG SEASON..LOL

7/28/09
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romanomike wrote:
WHATS HAPPENING WITH BOSTON...GOOD THING ITS A LONG SEASON..LOL
HEY..HOW DOES THIS PAGE WORK..LOL..IM LOST

7/28/09
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carol_chesnes86 wrote:
I am talking about the cops when Isay my town loves me....heheheheee
HEY.. HOW DOES THIS PLACE WORK...I THINK I LIKE IT..LOL

8/6/09
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ckillorin wrote:
yes he is a cry baby..sorry hon, tonys got this one!!!!!!lol
i love a gutsy babe

 
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