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10/6/07
Jim Harbaugh Sticks It to Pete Carroll, Stanford Upsets USC 24-23


The Versus announcers (who were atrocious, more on them at the bottom) insisted this was the biggest upset of the season, bigger than Appalachian State over Michigan. Do you agree?

Stanford was a 40-point underdog, and with a backup quarterback making his first start upset national champion favorite USC at home, no less. I still argue a Division I-AA (no succumbing to the FCS BS) team upsetting the winningest program in college football history is larger, but this was special in its own right.

The underlying coaching rivalry added to the story. Jim Harbaugh made it a point this offseason to not be intimidated by Pete Carroll and played a few media games with him. A fearless, and passionate coach. I've loved all their back and forth banter and welcomed Harbaugh's behavior. I was eagerly awaiting the awkward handshake afterwards, but as far as I could see it didn't happen. Did anyone else catch it?

Great game, great win. Before Jim Harbaugh moves on to a better job, the Stanford Cardinal will have a great deal of success.

Couple other comments:

- Tavita Pritchard, the Cardinal QB making his first start and delivering in the clutch was interview after the game. By the way, classy move by Jim Harbaugh to refuse an interview and make Versus focus in on the QB instead. Tavita said the win was for his dad who was unable to attend the game ... because he was at a wedding. You and me both were thinking illness, right? I sure hope it was Tavita's sister getting married, or maybe even his dad himself at the altar. Your son is starting in his first ever game at USC and you're not there because of a wedding?

- Versus announcers. Aw.Ful. I only caught the 4th quarter, but it was filled with numerous mistakes. Namely, saying USC had scored when Stanford tied the game at 23 in the final moments. Then, the analyst noted Jim Harbaugh was going for the tie by suggesting they kick the extra point which of course would eventually give Stanford the 1-point advantage. Nice work, guys.
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10/6/07
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First Illinois and now Stanford, I bet there's a party at the Shay house tonight

10/6/07
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Like I stated in the GT. USC's defense will win them in double digits this season, but that offense with the overrated Booty leading them won't even get them a bowl win. Hell, if it becomes a shoot out with Cal and Oregon, that could be 3 PAC-10 losses for USC in one season.

Hopefully Florida can get some miracle in the next 26 seconds. The chapionship is WIDE open this year.

10/6/07
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Janse wrote:
Like I stated in the GT. USC's defense will win them in double digits this season, but that offense with the overrated Booty leading them won't even get them a bowl win. Hell, if it becomes a shoot out with Cal and Oregon, that could be 3 PAC-10 losses for USC in one season.

Hopefully Florida can get some miracle in the next 26 seconds. The chapionship is WIDE open this year.
I don't totally disagree with you, but Booty did pretty well in a bowl win last year.

10/6/07
0
As a ND fan, I am pumped.  USC losses make me happier than Irish wins this season.  This has been the best week for a Domer fan in 10 months!!!!!!!!!!

10/6/07
3
First Illinois and now Stanford, I bet there's a party at the Shay house tonight

10/7/07
0
(Edited by Janse)
CriticalFanatic wrote:
I don't totally disagree with you, but Booty did pretty well in a bowl win last year.
With Booty being overrated because he was in the Heisman race from the beginning of the season just because he was the QB of USC or that USC's offense is their fault this season?

Mark May just said this was a bigger upset than the App. State over Michigan.

10/7/07
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(Edited by Chief_aka_James)
I still never understood why Versus was the only place to call USC "The #1 team in the nation", and at the end of it called it the "Biggest upset in college football for 2007!"

Wrong and Wrong again.

10/7/07
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Janse wrote:
With Booty being overrated because he was in the Heisman race from the beginning of the season just because he was the QB of USC or that USC's offense is their fault this season?

Mark May just said this was a bigger upset than the App. State over Michigan.

Thats because Mark May thinks there is no such thing as football outside of Los Angeles.  It is stunning to him that a loss to a non-existent team could ever happen.


10/7/07
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kantwistaye wrote:

Thats because Mark May thinks there is no such thing as football outside of Los Angeles.  It is stunning to him that a loss to a non-existent team could ever happen.

Did I hear Corso correctly tonight? I swear he one-upped May and said biggest upset ever.

10/7/07
0
So how far do you drop USC in the polls? Oklahoma dropped 7 spots last night for losing to only a 22 point underdog on the road. USC lost to a 41 point underdog at home. I say USC quite possibly drops out of the top 10. It is a shame that Florida will also drop even though they shouldn't.

10/7/07
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Jubanator14 wrote:
So how far do you drop USC in the polls? Oklahoma dropped 7 spots last night for losing to only a 22 point underdog on the road. USC lost to a 41 point underdog at home. I say USC quite possibly drops out of the top 10. It is a shame that Florida will also drop even though they shouldn't.
Agree, Florida should not drop at all. Nothing frustrates me more about the pollsters than when a team falls several spots for losing to a highly ranked team. If they were supposed to lose, that doesn't make them any worse.

USC should drop to around 10. They're still good and talented, but obviously have some offensive holes that were exploited. Just a case of a team taking a nap for a week as you're familiar with.

I'll post the poll in the morning my initial thought is

1. LSU
2. California
3. Ohio State
4. Boston College (I think many teams are better than them, but I have to give them credit. Same with OSU)
5. Oklahoma
6. Florida
7.  Virginia Tech
8. USC
9.  Missouri
10. Oregon

10/7/07
1
Corso and Howard put OU at 4 ahead of BC at 5 for Corso and Oregon at 5 for Howard. Chris put OU at 5.

My top 10 will be...

1. LSU
2. Cal
3. Ohio St.
4. Boston College (only because they are unbeaten, I think OU, Va Tech, Florida, USC are better though)
5. Oklahoma
6. South Florida
7. West Virgina
8. Virginia Tech
9. USC
10. Florida

10/7/07
0

1) LSU

2) Cal

3) Ohio State

4) Boston College

5) South Florida (USC going down further proves the parity of college football right now, must give credit to the undefeateds)

6) Oklahoma

7) Missouri (Illinois keeps making them look better)

8) West Virginia

9) USC

10) Florida/Oregon


10/7/07
1
kantwistaye wrote:

1) LSU

2) Cal

3) Ohio State

4) Boston College

5) South Florida (USC going down further proves the parity of college football right now, must give credit to the undefeateds)

6) Oklahoma

7) Missouri (Illinois keeps making them look better)

8) West Virginia

9) USC

10) Florida/Oregon

I don't know if it is parity as it is more so the fact that the number of scholarships was reduced meaning that really good players were going to other schools instead of just Florida, USC< Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio St., etc.  I really think that has a lot to do with it.

10/7/07
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Why do you all still have USC in the Top 10 STILL?  Losing to a team with 2 wins the past 2 YEARS doesn't prove to you all that they're overrated? 

10/7/07
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Chryno1316 wrote:
Why do you all still have USC in the Top 10 STILL?  Losing to a team with 2 wins the past 2 YEARS doesn't prove to you all that they're overrated? 
In all seriousness... who else can you put in the top 10?  Georgia was ranked 12th this year based on the performance, but in any other year would they've been 12th?  Same for Wisconsin... there is so much mediocrity this year, almost every team is even.

10/7/07
1
Who cares about top 10 prove it on Saturday, Florida has lost twice. Losing twice doesn't deserve top 10. I could care less who they lost to because you can have an opinion how good a team is but in the end play the game and win the game and they havn't. USC goes to Nebraska kills them now USC are world beaters, and the truth is Nebraska is horrible and today we saw USC isn't all that good either. Lets get a playoff and settle this opinion crap once and for all.

10/7/07
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I may have to agree that this is a bigger upset than Appy St.-Michigan. At the time, the Michigan game may have been bigger, but the Wolverines have shown themselves to be merely average this season. Stanford was a bigger underdog, about 8 points more. Ask yourselves this...if Appalachian State and Stanford were to have played last week, what would the line have been? I'd have to say it could be even, if not Appy State favored. USC would beat Michigan like a drum. Therefore, I'd call this a bigger upset.

10/7/07
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(Edited by drewstapes)

The top three upsets this year:

 

1. Stanford over USC

2. App. St over Michigan

3. Syracuse over Louisville

 

This one is pretty amazing.  The headline in the sports page of the SF Chronicle on Friday read "Lay the 40 1/2" and talked about how ugly the score might get. 

 

I was at the Stanford driving range yesterday and quite a few people were talking about what a rough game this was going to be.  No one thought theyed even hang in there!


10/7/07
0
From day one I always doubted Booty.... I don't know how he was in the heisman watch!  He never looks off the defense, barely ever gets a good pass of to his extremely tall WR's.  You can see from my past post... I'm not a fan of this booty

10/7/07
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drewstapes wrote:

The top three upsets this year:

 

1. Stanford over USC

2. App. St over Michigan

3. Syracuse over Louisville

 

This one is pretty amazing.  The headline in the sports page of the SF Chronicle on Friday read "Lay the 40 1/2" and talked about how ugly the score might get. 

 

I was at the Stanford driving range yesterday and quite a few people were talking about what a rough game this was going to be.  No one thought theyed even hang in there!

First, GO CARD!  Even Bear fans should be happy about this one, since now they'll be #2 in the polls.  Second, the headline: Does anyone know what percentage of teams cover 40+ point spreads?  I haven't studied it, but I seem to recall reading an analysis that said it was way below 50% (i.e., you should never bet on a team to cover such a large spread).  The Chronicle writing something like this doesn't surprise me.  In fact, it's just another example of how biased the Chronicle sports writers are against the Card.  Does anyone else who reads the Sporting Green notice this (or am I just a biased fan)?  I've always thought it was because a lot of the sports writers went to Cal and were Bears fans, but I don't know.

10/7/07
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blamka wrote:
First, GO CARD!  Even Bear fans should be happy about this one, since now they'll be #2 in the polls.  Second, the headline: Does anyone know what percentage of teams cover 40+ point spreads?  I haven't studied it, but I seem to recall reading an analysis that said it was way below 50% (i.e., you should never bet on a team to cover such a large spread).  The Chronicle writing something like this doesn't surprise me.  In fact, it's just another example of how biased the Chronicle sports writers are against the Card.  Does anyone else who reads the Sporting Green notice this (or am I just a biased fan)?  I've always thought it was because a lot of the sports writers went to Cal and were Bears fans, but I don't know.
I think Cal might fall victim to not playing this weekend and get leapfrogged by an Ohio State team that dominated a pretty good Purdue team on the road.

10/7/07
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blamka wrote:
First, GO CARD!  Even Bear fans should be happy about this one, since now they'll be #2 in the polls.  Second, the headline: Does anyone know what percentage of teams cover 40+ point spreads?  I haven't studied it, but I seem to recall reading an analysis that said it was way below 50% (i.e., you should never bet on a team to cover such a large spread).  The Chronicle writing something like this doesn't surprise me.  In fact, it's just another example of how biased the Chronicle sports writers are against the Card.  Does anyone else who reads the Sporting Green notice this (or am I just a biased fan)?  I've always thought it was because a lot of the sports writers went to Cal and were Bears fans, but I don't know.
I've noticed the Sporting Green being poor quality, but to be honest I haven't noticed a bias.  Remember when Stanford was a basketball power they got tons more coverage than Cal.  The thing the newspaper just covers the hot topic.  Plus you have to remembe there are probably 5 times more Cal grads than Stanford in the bay area.  The Merc actually does an excellent job covering South bay sports - including Stanford.

10/7/07
0
The upset from Stanford over USC shows that USC was way overrated this year. Their QB is also overrated. I have never understood why they have the polls. I mean they start out the preseason as favorites and you never have to prove a thing at that point in the season. A team can be ranked number one on the basis of last season. Also to point out some conferences dont even have a champoinship game in thier conference. So that is unfair also. Then you have the problem of some teams that could finish unbeaten and just because the pollsters dont like them, or they are not from a big school , then they dont get the recognition they likely deserve either. Well my final thought is it could be anyones mythical championship this year and i dont see any team going undefeated this year. The key to it could be not to lose a game late in the season so that could favor some teams over others.

 
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