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Keep The Spurs Out Of The Finals
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If The NBA Knows What's Good For Itself, It'll Keep The Spurs Out Of The Finals
by 100%InjuryRate
>7 days ago

I'm not going to lie. I'm a card-carrying Spurs hater and there's nothing I'd like to see more than this team not make the Finals. But you know what, the NBA should be thinking the exact same thing.

And there's a pretty simple reason for this. No one in their right mind wants to watch the Spurs play basketball. Think I'm lying? Well, let's look at the data.

Last year's NBA Finals featuring the Cavs and the Spurs drew the worst rating in NBA Finals history with a 6.2 rating. The natural thing to attribute this to is the fact that both teams are from small markets. That's a total cop out. The Spurs were 3-time NBA Champions who hadn't had a poor season since Duncan arrived in town - making them hardly an unknown team - and the Cavs spent more time on network TV than any team thanks to LeBron. Yet even though this series was a 4-game sweep by the Spurs, this series was headed for record lows right from the opening tip. Both games 1 and 2, when the series wasn't even close to over, were hardly watched by anyone as the market shares were abysmal. The reason was that the Spurs were playing more than anything else.

But you might not be convinced it was primarily the Spurs that made the 2007 Finals suck. That's fine. We'll just go back to the 2003 NBA Finals which had San Antonio facing New Jersey. New Jersey isn't a small market team at all. Yet this final drew the second worst rating in NBA Finals history with a 6.5 rating. And this series was actually pretty close. San Antonio and New Jersey split the first four games. Generally speaking, when a series goes 6 or 7 games, the ratings improve quite a bit. Not in this series. This series was also David Robinson's exit from the game, and no cared. Interestingly, this was also the first final that featured Parker, Duncan, Ginobili and Bowen. It's almost like the audience knew how boring this team was going to be before it even happened.

And then there's the 2005 Finals which featured San Antonio and Detroit. This was the sixth worst rated finals in NBA history, and the third worst rated finals since 1982. On Tuesday, June 7, 2005, the night after Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals between the Pistons and Miami Heat, SportsCenter even went as far as to air a segment between host Dan Patrick and analyst Ric Bucher going over the reasons why sports fans should even tune into the series. Sure you can blame both teams here for being boring, but that just further cements the fact that the Spurs never bring anything to the table whatsoever. In fact, judging by the 2003 and 2007 Finals, the only reason this final didn't get worse ratings was BECAUSE Detroit was in it.

The other important thing to mention is that both the Pistons and Nets played in other NBA Finals that got significantly better ratings. Both of those finals were against the Lakers, so naturally there's reason for a bump in ratings. But here's the more interesting thing. Both of those finals weren't exciting at all. The Nets lost 4-0 to the Lakers in 2002 and the Pistons beat the Lakers 4-1 in 2004. Yet despite those two crappy finals, ratings were dramatically higher than the much more closely contested finals by both teams against San Antonio.

The end result here is that while you can make some excuses if you want, since the main core of this Spurs team was assembled - Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Bowen - and played in a final, they've killed ratings. It's no coincidence that this team has played in two of the worst rated finals in NBA history and the three worst rated finals since 1982. No one likes watching this team play.

That's due to a number of things. The whole team whines, their coach is annoying, Duncan is boring as hell, Ginobili is the biggest flopper since Vlade Divac, Bowen's the dirtiest player the league has had in years, Parker's French, and I'd even throw Robert Horry into the equation at this point in time. People don't like the fact that he has more rings than Jordan, and has a habit of cheap shotting people in the playoffs.

But most importantly, their poor ratings have nothing to do with the fact that they play in a small market anymore. This team has won 4 NBA titles in under a decade and has been on national TV as much as any other team. Cut the small market crap. They aren't the Charlotte Bobcats. People everywhere know this team, and they hate watching them.

Whatever it takes, the NBA needs to prevent the Spurs from reaching the Finals. If that means Joey Crawford refs every one of their games so be it.

Because even though the league desperately needs a Lakers/Celtics final, a Lakers/Pistons final wouldn't be the end of the world.

But any final with the Spurs, even if it's against the Celtics, would be. 
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Sadly,  I stopped watching the NBA years ago. 

 

I agree with you, though.  While I respect what the Spurs have been able to accomplish  (you don't have to like them, but I think you have to respect how good they are!), I think I would be more likely to watch the Finals if the Suns or another up-tempo team were playing. 

 

Same thing with hockey.  The Devils of the 1990s really put a clamp on how people played and tended to create more "boring" games.  Of course, I'd do the same thing if it meant I could win a title!!

 

Just my two cents - for what it's worth.....

 
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(Edited 05/20/08 12:06PM by dager35)
As a San Antonio fan it's definitely hard to have to deal with this specific type thinking.  The Spurs have some exciting players in Manu and Parker.  Do they flop...yeah but you would think that just calling Manu a Vlade clone would at least get you to see that flopping is prevelent all over the NBA.  Do they whine about calls?  Ughh yeah and if you look closely at the other teams playing against the Spurs,  they do too and as much.  Kobe didn't get all the techs this year for doing nothing. 
  South Texas is not a huge place population wise.  We don't have tons of fans all over the USA.  We are the 3rd most favorite team in our own state.  The numbers are not going to be there because only die hard true Basketball fans will watch.  The average fan will not tune into a 7 game series that does not include a team that they are not rooting for.  Yeah I concede they do not play a up and down exciting game.  They pull up there sleeves and get into the dirt with whoever they are playing. 
  People like yourself with a deep hate for the Spurs will never be happy about it because they are not your team.  What are the Spurs suppose to do...roll over and lose?  All your showing is your blinded by your hate.  I know if we are lucky enough to get into the finals and win again,  the city of SA and surrounding areas will be watching.  Thank God for the salary cap!
 
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I admire the hell out of the Spurs.  It's the greatest 'team' since the late 80s Pistons.  No stars needed.  Just great coaching and great execution.  I just hate Texas and hate Spurs fans.  I'd definitely rather avoid the relentless Magic/Bird Kobe/Garnett video montages that would come with a Lakers/Celtics Finals.
 
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The Spurs are the team that every coach streeses their team to play like. The reason they constantly in the Semis or in the Finals, is because of the fundamentals. Are they boring to watch? No doubt about that; unless if you're a Spurs fan. I've become a Spurs fan because of Tim Duncan. Manu is the nicest Argentian with the rock and Tony Parker is a reason for people to like the French.

I've been rooting for a throw back Finals of Celtics/Lakers, but I've been leaning towards a Spurs/Pistons, because despite all of the razzle dazzle that these run-and-gun teams have, they lack the experience and composure that the Spurs and Pistons have.

CP3 didn't need to foul out of the game last night. Peja didn't need to act like Big Shot Bob. David West didn't need to win the Oscar for his back aching performance. The Spurs took the Hornets out of their game and took the crowd out of it too. That my friend, is a sign of a true warrior. they make adjustments, take you out of their game, and defeat you.

 

P.S. Tim Duncan is still the most UNDERRATED player in the history of the NBA.

 
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i think the others teams not smart enough !

lets face it lakers spurs in the west for the team  of the decade  price 
when spurs make finals and holding the titel your decade
when the lakers made the final or the titel next season decides the race

why evry big market can win and a small market are lose the spurs turn it and thats very good im my opion !
 
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celtics pistons the 80s are back ! this is better then cavs nets bulls heat and many more in my mind its great old dominating teams comes back from a hole over years and rebuild himself
 
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as I said in a prior poll...Manu falls down when he shoots foul shots.  I hate to see them go but their savvy has got them this far, lets see if they can get there.  I highly doubt they win it!
 
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Look, I just want compelling basketball. Sure I am pulling for the Lakers, but just want basketball and not the ugliness we have seen in some through most of the Cavs/Celts Series.  

 

As a Lakers fan, I am not afraid to say that the Spurs are a great team and they do have a dynasty going (If they win this year it will cement that fact). They play hard nose defense, efficient on O, and they just get it done. Look it is about titles not style points.  

 

All I ask is Bruce Bowen just play D and leave the shenanigans at home. I say that more as a fellow CSUF Titan than the Lakers fan. 

 
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I really don't get what there really is to hate about the Spurs.  They play a team game rather than the showboatin' kind of ball the blogger seems to adore.  Give me the class of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker over thugs like Alan Iversen and Carmello Anthony any day!  Sure, Manu does fall a lot, but lost in that flopping is the fact that the Argentine is probably the second best off-guard in the league and is just dumb fun to watch.  You guys KNOW that you are looking forward to seeing what Bowen does to Kobe defensively in West Finals!!!  I kinda want to see what Oberto does offensively to Gasol as Gasol is soft and Oberto can play against soft guys!  The Spurs players are all smart enough where they don't have to run the same play over and over again (I'm lookin' at you, Lebron).  None of the Spurs ever get arrested for drugs, beating pregnant girlfriends, raping hotel concierges, or get drunken disorderlies at a strip bar.  The Spurs are not the team I grew up pulling for, but, if you like basketball, the players and the organization have earned the right to be everybody's second favorite team.  As for the TV ratings, they will continue to be down as long as there aren't folks in the finals named Magic, Bird, or Jordan, but Those days and their big ratings are long gone.  Maybe if we factored in the Spurs' games ratings in Ginobli's and Oberto's home country of Argentina ...
 
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Chachi_Azzhola wrote:
I really don't get what there really is to hate about the Spurs.  They play a team game rather than the showboatin' kind of ball the blogger seems to adore.  Give me the class of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker over thugs like Alan Iversen and Carmello Anthony any day!  Sure, Manu does fall a lot, but lost in that flopping is the fact that the Argentine is probably the second best off-guard in the league and is just dumb fun to watch.  You guys KNOW that you are looking forward to seeing what Bowen does to Kobe defensively in West Finals!!!  I kinda want to see what Oberto does offensively to Gasol as Gasol is soft and Oberto can play against soft guys!  The Spurs players are all smart enough where they don't have to run the same play over and over again (I'm lookin' at you, Lebron).  None of the Spurs ever get arrested for drugs, beating pregnant girlfriends, raping hotel concierges, or get drunken disorderlies at a strip bar.  The Spurs are not the team I grew up pulling for, but, if you like basketball, the players and the organization have earned the right to be everybody's second favorite team.  As for the TV ratings, they will continue to be down as long as there aren't folks in the finals named Magic, Bird, or Jordan, but Those days and their big ratings are long gone.  Maybe if we factored in the Spurs' games ratings in Ginobli's and Oberto's home country of Argentina ...
I agree, and why do people care about ratings anyway?  It's not as if these bloggers work for the NBA or ESPN or TNT and are directly affected.  If you want to watch, watch.  If you don't, don't.  The NBA isn't hurting badly enough to go anywhere. 
 
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i totally disagree with whoever u are ....u are just a hater and mad because they took it last year and theyre going to take it again this year... and even if they dont theyre still my team so just stick to liking ur team ..... if they win just cry
 
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Mmmmmmmm, as a Lakers fan......all i got to say is GO LAKERS!!!!
 
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f**k that.....tim duncan is one of the best ball players ever and you need to behave and watch what your saying cause there are so many duncan fans out there and your just gettin them mad....
 
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I am not what you would classify a Spurs fan, if anything someone might call me a bandwagon fan, because I do only follow them in the playoffs.  The only reason that is, however, is because they are a Texas team, and I'll root on my home state regardless of the team, unless my favorite teams are playing; i.e. Dallas Cowboys trumps Houston Texans, and Houston Rockets trump any other Texas Basketball team.

That said, this might be the most ludicrous blog post I have seen in a long time, and am completely disappointed that it was written by someone I have a lot of respect for as far as blog authors are concerned.  You would propose, that someone would rig the NBA playoffs to insure that the Spurs don't make it to the Championships?  Have you not been paying attention to basketball in the off-season?  Rigging the playoffs would be in the worst interest for the NBA, than anything and I mean ANYTHING else. 

I also believe, that the ratings were down even in the last 10 years regardless of who was playing, don't quote this as fact, I just think I remember hearing something about that.  All and all, I think basketball is losing popularity, and it doesn't really matter what team is playing.  As far as the Spurs are concerned they play fundamental basketball, it's not exciting unless you are a basketball fundamentalist, but you have to admire the teamwork that team uses to win.

In all honesty I think the Spurs are the New England Patriots (Pre-Moss) of the NBA world.  I don't think either of these teams in the pinnacle of their dynasty eras were all that fun to watch.  But they are what they are, they won those games they were the champions, and they were the best of what the league had to offer.  They beat out the best teams to win it all, and preventing the best team from winning is only going to taint the league's image, and draw more people away from watching.
 
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I rather watch the spurs than those bums on the lakers or Lebron,, To be honest I have not followed the NBA since 2004,, I think the quality of the players and the game have deminished,, A lot of my friends and sports fans feel the same way. There were better players 5+ years ago. I have not wached a game yet of the playoffs, and to be honest the playoffs are way too long, 2 months is too much, they should get rid of the first round, just look at the teams in the east, the hawks had like 38 wins and made the playoffs,, And by the way almost beat Boston,, that just shows that the quality and the consistency of the players is a far cry from what it used to be
 
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(Edited 05/20/08 7:35PM by Southern Lion)

First of all, San Antonio is the 8th largest city in the United States, as of the 2000 census, but because there's no NFL, MLB, or NHL team here, we're considered a small market.   The Spurs have been a successful team since Poppovich became head coach.  They we're one of the first teams in the NBA to explore the European leagues for roster spots, and they've always stressed defense under Poppovich.  In games where your offense is off, your defense, if played properly, will more often than not, keep you in the game.  San Antonio is masterful at that, and at the fundamentals.  Sure, you might think they're boring, but as one of their fans, I say keep boring me, please!

 

 

By the way,  Spurs haters carry cards?????

 
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seriously bro, you need to man up! and just learn to love the game of basketball. You just dont know a good team when you see one. Your just hating because your team did not make it. Quit hating on the Best Team in the NBA. We have proved it, who did the Lakers beat to get there the Nuggets and Jazz? We crusied by the suns and won the slugfest with the Hornets.
 
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loslos87 wrote:
seriously bro, you need to man up! and just learn to love the game of basketball. You just dont know a good team when you see one. Your just hating because your team did not make it. Quit hating on the Best Team in the NBA. We have proved it, who did the Lakers beat to get there the Nuggets and Jazz? We crusied by the suns and won the slugfest with the Hornets.
Cruised by the Suns?  And the Jazz are better than the Hornets.  Such baseless trash talk is why I hate the organization - because it includes fans.  As I said above, I admire the team and the gameplan.
 
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The Spurs are the best TEAM in all of the NBA. They have the fudamentals down, they have experience, and they have the 3 key positions on the court filled with their best players: the point guard, the big man, and the wingman. They also have one of the best coaches in the game and the ROLE players that know their ROLES.

 

Also, if you're a true fan of basketball you'll watch no matter what teams are playing for the Championship. Besides, if you're one of those Lakers/Cavs fans who like their team so much because of ONE PLAYER you have something wrong with you. Kobe is a great player no doubt, but the only difference between last year and this is Pau Gasol and they are doing much better (Lebron on the other hand is way overrated and has no post-up game or a mid range jumper, he either takes a 3-pointer or dunks and he needs to learn he not the point guard and shouldnt be, but in his defense he has no great players around him). Also, these teams are easy to game plan for because all you need to do is shutdown one player to slow the team down. However, if you are the Spurs and they double-team Duncan he can dish the ball to someone else and they will eventually get an open shot, and if a shooter gets hot (like Manu in Game 7 vs. the Hornets) they can't double team Duncan and he gets a one on one matchup just like they want in the first place.

 

(I agree that Tim Duncan is one of the most underrated players EVER, and is a 1st ballot HOF-er without question)

 
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