Keep The Spurs Out Of The Finals
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If The NBA Knows What's Good For Itself, It'll Keep The Spurs Out Of The Finals

5/20/08 in NBA   |   100%InjuryRate   |   1283 respect


I'm not going to lie. I'm a card-carrying Spurs hater and there's nothing I'd like to see more than this team not make the Finals. But you know what, the NBA should be thinking the exact same thing.

And there's a pretty simple reason for this. No one in their right mind wants to watch the Spurs play basketball. Think I'm lying? Well, let's look at the data.

Last year's NBA Finals featuring the Cavs and the Spurs drew the worst rating in NBA Finals history with a 6.2 rating. The natural thing to attribute this to is the fact that both teams are from small markets. That's a total cop out. The Spurs were 3-time NBA Champions who hadn't had a poor season since Duncan arrived in town - making them hardly an unknown team - and the Cavs spent more time on network TV than any team thanks to LeBron. Yet even though this series was a 4-game sweep by the Spurs, this series was headed for record lows right from the opening tip. Both games 1 and 2, when the series wasn't even close to over, were hardly watched by anyone as the market shares were abysmal. The reason was that the Spurs were playing more than anything else.

But you might not be convinced it was primarily the Spurs that made the 2007 Finals suck. That's fine. We'll just go back to the 2003 NBA Finals which had San Antonio facing New Jersey. New Jersey isn't a small market team at all. Yet this final drew the second worst rating in NBA Finals history with a 6.5 rating. And this series was actually pretty close. San Antonio and New Jersey split the first four games. Generally speaking, when a series goes 6 or 7 games, the ratings improve quite a bit. Not in this series. This series was also David Robinson's exit from the game, and no cared. Interestingly, this was also the first final that featured Parker, Duncan, Ginobili and Bowen. It's almost like the audience knew how boring this team was going to be before it even happened.

And then there's the 2005 Finals which featured San Antonio and Detroit. This was the sixth worst rated finals in NBA history, and the third worst rated finals since 1982. On Tuesday, June 7, 2005, the night after Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals between the Pistons and Miami Heat, SportsCenter even went as far as to air a segment between host Dan Patrick and analyst Ric Bucher going over the reasons why sports fans should even tune into the series. Sure you can blame both teams here for being boring, but that just further cements the fact that the Spurs never bring anything to the table whatsoever. In fact, judging by the 2003 and 2007 Finals, the only reason this final didn't get worse ratings was BECAUSE Detroit was in it.

The other important thing to mention is that both the Pistons and Nets played in other NBA Finals that got significantly better ratings. Both of those finals were against the Lakers, so naturally there's reason for a bump in ratings. But here's the more interesting thing. Both of those finals weren't exciting at all. The Nets lost 4-0 to the Lakers in 2002 and the Pistons beat the Lakers 4-1 in 2004. Yet despite those two crappy finals, ratings were dramatically higher than the much more closely contested finals by both teams against San Antonio.

The end result here is that while you can make some excuses if you want, since the main core of this Spurs team was assembled - Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Bowen - and played in a final, they've killed ratings. It's no coincidence that this team has played in two of the worst rated finals in NBA history and the three worst rated finals since 1982. No one likes watching this team play.

That's due to a number of things. The whole team whines, their coach is annoying, Duncan is boring as hell, Ginobili is the biggest flopper since Vlade Divac, Bowen's the dirtiest player the league has had in years, Parker's French, and I'd even throw Robert Horry into the equation at this point in time. People don't like the fact that he has more rings than Jordan, and has a habit of cheap shotting people in the playoffs.

But most importantly, their poor ratings have nothing to do with the fact that they play in a small market anymore. This team has won 4 NBA titles in under a decade and has been on national TV as much as any other team. Cut the small market crap. They aren't the Charlotte Bobcats. People everywhere know this team, and they hate watching them.

Whatever it takes, the NBA needs to prevent the Spurs from reaching the Finals. If that means Joey Crawford refs every one of their games so be it.

Because even though the league desperately needs a Lakers/Celtics final, a Lakers/Pistons final wouldn't be the end of the world.

But any final with the Spurs, even if it's against the Celtics, would be. 
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5/30/08   |   bradb4ku

packer97 wrote:
its ENGLISH

*Edited by Jubanator14 for language/personal attack*

i's reaal cureous whats yu sayd nows

5/30/08   |   kantwistaye   |   4201 respect

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The Nuggets are terrible.  The door is open for the Spurs to be an 8th seed for the last couple years but they're done contending.

I think the Nuggets would be fine with some structure, but with Karl at the helm it appears that they'll just be that team that can't quite get over the hump.  As a basketball fan, its kind of disappointing.

5/30/08   |   Jubanator14   |   367 respect

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Get over yourself, the Spurs are done.  The oldest team in basketball just can't get it done anymore.  The West is way too deep.  Especially with Oden on his way.

Oden and Portland. Plus Deron Williams and the Jazz, Chris Paul and the Hornets, Kobe and the Lakers, Houston will eventually not have to play the Jazz in the 1st round and might do some damage, and the crazy styles of Golden St and Denver will cause problems for the Spurs. The Spurs will still be there but they won't be the dominant team that they have been.

5/29/08   |   derms33   |   17642 respect

Now dismantle that old a$$ team!

5/29/08   |   Chris   |   3 respect

Got your wish. Spurs are out of the Finals. But we'll be back. Once you go silver and black you'll keep comin back. Spurs will pick up more key guys on the offseason. We got some playoff moneys, got cash from Houston, will dump our poop players, and a few of our developing draft picks like Tiago Splitter will be ready for another title run in 2009. Spurs season is over, congrats to Los Angeles, and see you in October.

5/27/08   |   royalll

This is all pretty childish stuff.  How can anyone "hate" a basketball team?  Before you hate a team, you might consider getting a life instead and worrying about real problems.  As for the Spurs, they may be the least offensive team around, which, for those with a gladiator blood lust must be pretty disappointing.  Too bad for you that they are also pretty good at what they do.  The NBA Finals are supposed to be about the best team that wins the majority of games out of seven. Simple as that. It's digital: one or zero, up or down, win or lose. If the Spurs win, great. If the Lakers win, great too.  The shrill desperation behind arguments involving "large" versus "small markets" is just a bunch of nonsense and completely beside the point.  Instead of worrying about this, deal with your anger management issues.

5/24/08   |   Jubanator14   |   367 respect

packer97 wrote:
its ENGLISH

*Edited by Jubanator14 for language/personal attack*

Again, like I said before, no personal attacks. Especially ones with profanities.

5/23/08   |   packer97

bradb4ku wrote:
what language are you speaking?
(Edited by Jubanator14)

its ENGLISH

*Edited by Jubanator14 for language/personal attack*

5/23/08   |   bradb4ku

packer97 wrote:
dude u need to quite hating on the spurs if they make it they make WHAT the big idea i watch it every and i am a piston fan but i watch the campinship games evey cuz i love basketball and that what it comes down to trues fan and team fan that why the rating go up and down.

what language are you speaking?

5/22/08   |   Jubanator14   |   367 respect

fjhernandez13 wrote:

You don't like the Spurs because they are not your team but if they were you would be defending them just as any other Spurs fan. Hate the team for ratings is just retarded.. if the Spurs don't make the Finals, I do not watch so as a Spurs fan I do not expect anyone who isn't a Spurs fan to watch. So being a small market does indeed have lots to do with why San Antonio's ratings are low. In addition, the people who do watch and are not particular fans of the teams playing, are just die hard fans of the sport in itself.. not the ratings that come along with it. Write about something interesting and about a team where their star player makes 50 + points in a game because I think someone has had issues with sharing their toys when they were growing up. Thats a good story, I mean afterall, when your star player is making decisions on who stays and who goes... Might as well fire your GM and make Kobe a Guard/GM.

 

By the way, I remember a time when the games were on regular T.V.  now I believe everything is on ESPN and TNT... Not sure why someone nowadays wouldn't have cable but yeah, not everyone does.

The Finals are always on ABC.

5/22/08   |   fjhernandez13

You don't like the Spurs because they are not your team but if they were you would be defending them just as any other Spurs fan. Hate the team for ratings is just retarded.. if the Spurs don't make the Finals, I do not watch so as a Spurs fan I do not expect anyone who isn't a Spurs fan to watch. So being a small market does indeed have lots to do with why San Antonio's ratings are low. In addition, the people who do watch and are not particular fans of the teams playing, are just die hard fans of the sport in itself.. not the ratings that come along with it. Write about something interesting and about a team where their star player makes 50 + points in a game because I think someone has had issues with sharing their toys when they were growing up. Thats a good story, I mean afterall, when your star player is making decisions on who stays and who goes... Might as well fire your GM and make Kobe a Guard/GM.

 

By the way, I remember a time when the games were on regular T.V.  now I believe everything is on ESPN and TNT... Not sure why someone nowadays wouldn't have cable but yeah, not everyone does.

5/22/08   |   Chris   |   3 respect

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It's not other people.  It's you.  And to a lesser extent your last remaining illiterate comrade Nick S.  Other than that I'm golden and love everybody.  If you want to pretend I'm the only that's sick of your crap, go ahead.

i'm not calling people idiots. I just rant and whine and moan. But i don't dog on people with calling them names like you do. Sorry my "crap" stinks, dude. I try to hold back my comments but i end up pushing them through.

5/21/08   |   Chris   |   3 respect

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I agree, and guys like you and Southern Lion have showed me the light.  It's a good group of people in general.

you don't have to be mean and disrespectful to other people. You choose to be. When will the better decision ever arise?

5/21/08   |   Chris   |   3 respect

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If Chris didn't exist I'd have a tougher time deciding who to root for.  There are quite a few well-spoken Spurs fans around here who actually bring valid facts and reasoning to the table.  But since his idiocy is so gigantic, I've just gots ta throw on a 24 jersey.
(Edited by Chris)

I'm not the one losing predictions on most of the playoff series, now have i? I have correctly predicted every team in the playoffs so far. And i didn't see any idiocy in that comment. The REAL fact is that the level of hatred towards the Spurs by some fans, is beyond disgusting, and disgraceful not only to San Antonio, but to any basketball fan. To say such ridiculous and blasphemy is beyond the line that is drawn. Freedom of speech allows it, but you are only lowering yourself below dirt, and showing the world a classless act, and unsportsmans-like attitude.

 

Pick the fights with me all you want. I DO provide facts. Several are on the FanIQ trivia which people are building points off of. If you can't handle the truth and the reality of San Antonio's success, then obviously the blogosphere isn't a good area for you to wander around calling people idiots, queers, or retards for that matter (all which i've heard from you before).

5/21/08   |   Jubanator14   |   367 respect

helenburge wrote:
Are you 100%'s shoe throwing mommy or do you have something interesting to say about the Spurs.  Go to Colorado with Kobe, loser.

I see you are new here so I will first say, Welcome to Fan IQ. Secondly, personal attacks are not allowed here on Fan IQ and that goes for everyone. Third, 100% is older than me so at least come up with a better joke/insult than that. Fourth, I think what the Spurs have done is amazing, keeping that core group of guys together and continuing to win, I don't, however, like the flopping by Manu, Bruce Bowen's repeated shots to opposing players, and Tim Duncan complaining about every call. Lastly, The Spurs as an organization are a very classy organization, it is the several select Spurs fans who drag their teams name down with the way they act about their team. From the ones that chanted Horry's name after he knocked out David West to the ones that go anonymously come on forums/messages boards and scream about their team not getting any respect/everyone hates us/our team is holier than thou/etc. attitudes that really turn a lot of people off of the Spurs and want them to lose as bad as some of the "Spurs haters" do.

5/21/08   |   Reef PIE   |   1 respect

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i dont watch games but listening to sports radio and espn i pick all the info up,, i still keep up on news, but i cant watch games anymore,, plus a lot of the games start 10:30 at night by me, so even if i wanted to watch it I would fall asleep by halftime

True about the time for you guys on the east coast. 3 hours is a big time difference.....certain games come on too early for us on the west coast.

5/21/08   |   helenburge

Jubanator14 wrote:
So you are saying 100% is a fat, bald guy with all the answers who makes money blogging by who makes the NBA finals? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Are you 100%'s shoe throwing mommy or do you have something interesting to say about the Spurs.  Go to Colorado with Kobe, loser.

5/21/08   |   Jubanator14   |   367 respect

helenburge wrote:
Well, I'm a card carrying "fat bald guy with all the awsers" hater and I completely disagree with you.  The reason the Spurs get no respect is they aren't adulterers, wife beaters, and rapists.  They should be appreciated for how they play and win not how big their fan base is or how much money bloggers and Miller lite can make off their commercials.  Be a card carrying hater of a team without class.   

So you are saying 100% is a fat, bald guy with all the answers who makes money blogging by who makes the NBA finals? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

5/21/08   |   helenburge

Well, I'm a card carrying "fat bald guy with all the awsers" hater and I completely disagree with you.  The reason the Spurs get no respect is they aren't adulterers, wife beaters, and rapists.  They should be appreciated for how they play and win not how big their fan base is or how much money bloggers and Miller lite can make off their commercials.  Be a card carrying hater of a team without class.   

5/21/08   |   Reef PIE   |   1 respect

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I rather watch the spurs than those bums on the lakers or Lebron,, To be honest I have not followed the NBA since 2004,, I think the quality of the players and the game have deminished,, A lot of my friends and sports fans feel the same way. There were better players 5+ years ago. I have not wached a game yet of the playoffs, and to be honest the playoffs are way too long, 2 months is too much, they should get rid of the first round, just look at the teams in the east, the hawks had like 38 wins and made the playoffs,, And by the way almost beat Boston,, that just shows that the quality and the consistency of the players is a far cry from what it used to be

For someone hasn't followed the NBA since 2004 have deep feelings about it.......has me wondering why the hell you comment on it.......GO LAKERS!!!

5/21/08   |   rhomeos31

Damn Bro! I understand hating a team because their your team's rival, but to hate a team because of TV rating..... Yea right. I'm not gonna waste my energy on that subject.  We are the team that players come to for a chance at the Championship, our players are not in the news for illegal activity (light bulb... thats why your mad, you dont have anything else to right about...LOL) and we win, BOTTOM LINE.

There will never be a player who gets a contract that says you must improve TV ratings or there will never be a player worried about TV rating (thats what the regualr season is for). For all the fans and writers who hate the Spurs. TELL YOUR FAVORITE NBA TEAM TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT AND WIN! 

 

PS. Oh yea, when you go deep into the playoffs that means more money for the team and the players. None of your teams want that money?

 

SIGNED

 

LMAO 

5/21/08   |   Chachi_Azzhola   |   2 respect

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If Chris didn't exist I'd have a tougher time deciding who to root for.  There are quite a few well-spoken Spurs fans around here who actually bring valid facts and reasoning to the table.  But since his idiocy is so gigantic, I've just gots ta throw on a 24 jersey.

24?  You'll want to complete your Kobe gear by throwing on a hotel concierge too... 

5/21/08   |   tonyqclifton

It's funny how Laker Fan always rolls straight to the "The ratings are just terrible" argument when it comes to the Spurs.  Like they own the NBA or TNT and give a crap.  It's the dumbest argument ever made.

If you want to talk about what has HUGE ratings, let me give you some examples...

Hanna Montana concerts
Anything with Brittany Spears
Pro Wrestling
World Soccer
Dancing with the Stars
American Idol
Laker games

Now here are some things that get LOW ratings

Radiohead concerts
Anything with good writing (i.e. arrested development)
Real wrestling
The Superbowl (when compared to World Soccer)
When animals attack
The Ultimate Fighter
Spurs Games

So I guess if you're going to base what's "good" to watch by what most of the salad-for-brains public watches, have fun.  I'm sure Simon is really gonna let the next contestant have it.  And Pro Wrestling should really be up your alley since you like fixed outcomes, high ratings, and Lakers Players (Karl Malone).

Myself, I would rather watch the world champs.

5/21/08   |   RunningDawg   |   248 respect

I don't think the Spurs are killing the NBA, it has been a losing product for quite a few years.  To say the Spurs are killing the NBA when you have a selfish duo in AI and Mello, Iverson has a habit of dissapearing in the playoffs.  He is more remembered by his hip hop style and showboating rather than his play in the finals.

 

Kobe got the MVP this year, and he played very well, but all teh pundits on ESPN and TNT could talk about was his "Trade me" tiraid before the season started.  Somehow this made him a better canidate for MVP because he learned to shut up and play?!?  Duncan has been playing for years with class and dignity, AND winning championships with out all the drama.  Unless that is what the NBA needs to get the ratings?

 

Several years ago MJ played his heart out on the courts (remember him killing the Jazz in teh finals with a 100 degree temp) and did it without all the drama, Charles barkley was the bad guy punching out some guy in a bar, not armed confrontation like some of today's stars.  I personally think that might be the reason the ratings are down, today's stars are selfish and all about the money.  Sure Magic, Bird, Jordan all got paid very well during their time but they wanted to win and some even forgave their salaries to get better players on their TEAM so they could win it all.

 

About the time Sprewell choked his coach for yelling at him is about the time I had had enough with all the prima donnas in the NBA, the breath of fresh air has always been the likes of David Robinson, Tim Duncan and several others.  So hate the Spurs if you want, but if you want them out of the finals then beat them!

5/21/08   |   Chris   |   3 respect

You know what... here is some food for thought:

 

A. The Nets?? People had a feeling Spurs would get by them handily. They were lucky to win 2 games.

B. Pistons. Too much defense. That's easy enough.

C. Cavaliers. This series was over days before it even tipped off... so whats the point of watching, right?

 

What a classless thing to say in here. Sure there are Spurs haters, and of course, you have a right to hate or love whatever... but there is a line. So, let's cheat in the NBA and everyone find ways to hold down the Spurs. Throw ice on the court, a ring of fire, bad ref calls all game, rig the rim, put up a bad net, whatever. Come on. Classless. I'm so stunned about how low this blog went that i'm struggling to come up with sentences. Wrong on such a high level.

 

Just hope for the Spurs to lose, and have faith in other teams. No need to think about cheating, and ratings, and other crap... bogus.

 

 

If the Spurs are "killing the NBA", well... it'd be already dead. There is a reason why there are 16 teams in the playoffs, and the Spurs have every right to be there. Sorry the other 15 teams can't make it. For that matter, the NBA will be dead for years to come. Know what, the Hornets-Spurs brought in great ratings... what's up with that? Sheesh. TitleTown, Texas will live on. WCF 2008, and Spurs are aiming for a repeat... finally.

5/21/08   |   Chris   |   3 respect

kantwistaye wrote:

I'm pretty sure the Lakers were the first team to ever sweep a 50 win team in the first round and just beat the best home team in the league.  Nobody has proven anything yet.

.... the Nuggets... yeah, great for a sweep... but... man, bro... the first two words... they can't get out of the first round even if it was as simple as opening a door.

5/20/08   |   kantwistaye   |   4201 respect

loslos87 wrote:
seriously bro, you need to man up! and just learn to love the game of basketball. You just dont know a good team when you see one. Your just hating because your team did not make it. Quit hating on the Best Team in the NBA. We have proved it, who did the Lakers beat to get there the Nuggets and Jazz? We crusied by the suns and won the slugfest with the Hornets.

I'm pretty sure the Lakers were the first team to ever sweep a 50 win team in the first round and just beat the best home team in the league.  Nobody has proven anything yet.

5/20/08   |   danny_n94   |   114 respect

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Cruised by the Suns?  And the Jazz are better than the Hornets.  Such baseless trash talk is why I hate the organization - because it includes fans.  As I said above, I admire the team and the gameplan.
(Edited by danny_n94)

as much as I hate to say it I would rather see the Spurs in the Finals than LA. I am just tired of the Spurs brand of ball. That does not mean I dont respect what they have accomplished I wish the Nuggs could be that way.

 

 

5/20/08   |   loslos87

seriously bro, you need to man up! and just learn to love the game of basketball. You just dont know a good team when you see one. Your just hating because your team did not make it. Quit hating on the Best Team in the NBA. We have proved it, who did the Lakers beat to get there the Nuggets and Jazz? We crusied by the suns and won the slugfest with the Hornets.

5/20/08   |   Nate   |   128 respect

I am not what you would classify a Spurs fan, if anything someone might call me a bandwagon fan, because I do only follow them in the playoffs.  The only reason that is, however, is because they are a Texas team, and I'll root on my home state regardless of the team, unless my favorite teams are playing; i.e. Dallas Cowboys trumps Houston Texans, and Houston Rockets trump any other Texas Basketball team.

That said, this might be the most ludicrous blog post I have seen in a long time, and am completely disappointed that it was written by someone I have a lot of respect for as far as blog authors are concerned.  You would propose, that someone would rig the NBA playoffs to insure that the Spurs don't make it to the Championships?  Have you not been paying attention to basketball in the off-season?  Rigging the playoffs would be in the worst interest for the NBA, than anything and I mean ANYTHING else. 

I also believe, that the ratings were down even in the last 10 years regardless of who was playing, don't quote this as fact, I just think I remember hearing something about that.  All and all, I think basketball is losing popularity, and it doesn't really matter what team is playing.  As far as the Spurs are concerned they play fundamental basketball, it's not exciting unless you are a basketball fundamentalist, but you have to admire the teamwork that team uses to win.

In all honesty I think the Spurs are the New England Patriots (Pre-Moss) of the NBA world.  I don't think either of these teams in the pinnacle of their dynasty eras were all that fun to watch.  But they are what they are, they won those games they were the champions, and they were the best of what the league had to offer.  They beat out the best teams to win it all, and preventing the best team from winning is only going to taint the league's image, and draw more people away from watching.

5/20/08   |   mavericks_girl

f**k that.....tim duncan is one of the best ball players ever and you need to behave and watch what your saying cause there are so many duncan fans out there and your just gettin them mad....

5/20/08   |   Reef PIE   |   1 respect

Mmmmmmmm, as a Lakers fan......all i got to say is GO LAKERS!!!!

5/20/08   |   native_baller14_2010

i totally disagree with whoever u are ....u are just a hater and mad because they took it last year and theyre going to take it again this year... and even if they dont theyre still my team so just stick to liking ur team ..... if they win just cry

5/20/08   |   Chachi_Azzhola   |   2 respect

I really don't get what there really is to hate about the Spurs.  They play a team game rather than the showboatin' kind of ball the blogger seems to adore.  Give me the class of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker over thugs like Alan Iversen and Carmello Anthony any day!  Sure, Manu does fall a lot, but lost in that flopping is the fact that the Argentine is probably the second best off-guard in the league and is just dumb fun to watch.  You guys KNOW that you are looking forward to seeing what Bowen does to Kobe defensively in West Finals!!!  I kinda want to see what Oberto does offensively to Gasol as Gasol is soft and Oberto can play against soft guys!  The Spurs players are all smart enough where they don't have to run the same play over and over again (I'm lookin' at you, Lebron).  None of the Spurs ever get arrested for drugs, beating pregnant girlfriends, raping hotel concierges, or get drunken disorderlies at a strip bar.  The Spurs are not the team I grew up pulling for, but, if you like basketball, the players and the organization have earned the right to be everybody's second favorite team.  As for the TV ratings, they will continue to be down as long as there aren't folks in the finals named Magic, Bird, or Jordan, but Those days and their big ratings are long gone.  Maybe if we factored in the Spurs' games ratings in Ginobli's and Oberto's home country of Argentina ...

5/20/08   |   Boski93   |   375 respect

Look, I just want compelling basketball. Sure I am pulling for the Lakers, but just want basketball and not the ugliness we have seen in some through most of the Cavs/Celts Series.  

 

As a Lakers fan, I am not afraid to say that the Spurs are a great team and they do have a dynasty going (If they win this year it will cement that fact). They play hard nose defense, efficient on O, and they just get it done. Look it is about titles not style points.  

 

All I ask is Bruce Bowen just play D and leave the shenanigans at home. I say that more as a fellow CSUF Titan than the Lakers fan. 

5/20/08   |   derms33   |   17642 respect

as I said in a prior poll...Manu falls down when he shoots foul shots.  I hate to see them go but their savvy has got them this far, lets see if they can get there.  I highly doubt they win it!

5/20/08   |   Festerchen

celtics pistons the 80s are back ! this is better then cavs nets bulls heat and many more in my mind its great old dominating teams comes back from a hole over years and rebuild himself

5/20/08   |   Festerchen

i think the others teams not smart enough !

lets face it lakers spurs in the west for the team  of the decade  price 
when spurs make finals and holding the titel your decade
when the lakers made the final or the titel next season decides the race

why evry big market can win and a small market are lose the spurs turn it and thats very good im my opion !

5/20/08   |   primo   |   1 respect

The Spurs are the team that every coach streeses their team to play like. The reason they constantly in the Semis or in the Finals, is because of the fundamentals. Are they boring to watch? No doubt about that; unless if you're a Spurs fan. I've become a Spurs fan because of Tim Duncan. Manu is the nicest Argentian with the rock and Tony Parker is a reason for people to like the French.

I've been rooting for a throw back Finals of Celtics/Lakers, but I've been leaning towards a Spurs/Pistons, because despite all of the razzle dazzle that these run-and-gun teams have, they lack the experience and composure that the Spurs and Pistons have.

CP3 didn't need to foul out of the game last night. Peja didn't need to act like Big Shot Bob. David West didn't need to win the Oscar for his back aching performance. The Spurs took the Hornets out of their game and took the crowd out of it too. That my friend, is a sign of a true warrior. they make adjustments, take you out of their game, and defeat you.

 

P.S. Tim Duncan is still the most UNDERRATED player in the history of the NBA.

5/20/08   |   dager35

(Edited by dager35)

As a San Antonio fan it's definitely hard to have to deal with this specific type thinking.  The Spurs have some exciting players in Manu and Parker.  Do they flop...yeah but you would think that just calling Manu a Vlade clone would at least get you to see that flopping is prevelent all over the NBA.  Do they whine about calls?  Ughh yeah and if you look closely at the other teams playing against the Spurs,  they do too and as much.  Kobe didn't get all the techs this year for doing nothing. 
  South Texas is not a huge place population wise.  We don't have tons of fans all over the USA.  We are the 3rd most favorite team in our own state.  The numbers are not going to be there because only die hard true Basketball fans will watch.  The average fan will not tune into a 7 game series that does not include a team that they are not rooting for.  Yeah I concede they do not play a up and down exciting game.  They pull up there sleeves and get into the dirt with whoever they are playing. 
  People like yourself with a deep hate for the Spurs will never be happy about it because they are not your team.  What are the Spurs suppose to do...roll over and lose?  All your showing is your blinded by your hate.  I know if we are lucky enough to get into the finals and win again,  the city of SA and surrounding areas will be watching.  Thank God for the salary cap!

5/20/08   |   Ryan   |   153 respect

Sadly,  I stopped watching the NBA years ago. 

 

I agree with you, though.  While I respect what the Spurs have been able to accomplish  (you don't have to like them, but I think you have to respect how good they are!), I think I would be more likely to watch the Finals if the Suns or another up-tempo team were playing. 

 

Same thing with hockey.  The Devils of the 1990s really put a clamp on how people played and tended to create more "boring" games.  Of course, I'd do the same thing if it meant I could win a title!!

 

Just my two cents - for what it's worth.....

5/20/08   |   packer97

dude u need to quite hating on the spurs if they make it they make WHAT the big idea i watch it every and i am a piston fan but i watch the campinship games evey cuz i love basketball and that what it comes down to trues fan and team fan that why the rating go up and down.