Kevin Garnett Close to Being Dealt to the Boston Celtics | NBA | Boston Celtics

Oh god...there is hope...maybe.

"It's believed that the latest incarnation of the deal would require Boston to package Gerald Green and Sebastian Telfair with Jefferson and Ratliff in exchange for Garnett. It's also likely that other players and/or draft picks would be added to the package if the deal gets Garnett's signoff."

I wouldn't mind seeing them give up Green or Jefferson for KG, but I would rather not see them give up both, if they can help it.

And by the way, CF...the Allen-Garnett combo is very good, but don't forget about Paul Pierce.

7/30/07

CriticalFanatic

Pat wrote:

ha, that tells you how much I think of Pierce, huh.

7/30/07

0	cool the Celtics might win 40 games!

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0	donteisking20 wrote: cool the Celtics might win 40 games! That was funny, but even with Doc Rivers, this combo will win atleast 45+

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0	Nick S wrote: That was funny, but even with Doc Rivers, this combo will win atleast 45+ ino ray and pierce are amazing + KG!!!?!?! ill give ya.....41 lol

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0	donteisking20 wrote: ino ray and pierce are amazing + KG!!!?!?! ill give ya.....41 lol When you learn to speak english, you can talk to me. Also, you know nothing about basketball so why don't you worry about your own teams and let the REAL fan do the talking. I will guarantee that if the trade goes through, the Celtics win 49 games.

7/30/07

Jengirrl

Pat wrote:

The key to all of this is in the middle... IF the deal gets Garnett's signoff. KG has earlier this off-season nixed the idea of going to Boston, and there's been nothing up here to change from that (as of this morning's papers, OR the Timberwolves web site). I'm still firmly in the camp that this is still rumor, and I would tell McHale NOT to go for this unless Boston puts more in their side of the deal.

7/30/07

Nick S wrote:

When you learn to speak english, you can talk to me. Also, you know nothing about basketball so why don't you worry about your own teams and let the REAL fan do the talking. I will guarantee that if the trade goes through, the Celtics win 49 games.

dude i was joking i think they will be a playoff team with KG (who they don't have yet)

ray allen , paul pierce, and KG(if they get him) prolly will win there way into the playoffs. hey they are already better off than my bucks. By the way I know how to speak english. ive had this discussion MANY times

7/30/07

jeremiahmeek

0	Whoa- Could be a great move but I thought Ainge wasn't going to deal Jefferson

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(Edited by Nick S)
donteisking20 wrote:

dude i was joking i think they will be a playoff team with KG (who they don't have yet)

If you know how to speak it, then do it. Don't be a lazy piece, it is not hard to write a couple more letters. Just to let you know, because it makes you look illiterate.

7/30/07

Shrugging Atlas

As an outsider (not a fan of either team), I wanted to make a quick observation about the way the NBA lottery can turn a team (league?) on its head.

Prior to the draft, when talk of the Celtics getting the top pick was running rampant, it seemed that the direction of the team was to trade Paul Pierce and build the youth movement around Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, and Greg Oden (who would have been the pick).

Now, roughly a month later, the movement seems to mortgage the future (by trading Green AND Jefferson) to make a run in the inferior Eastern Conference! Pierce, Ray Allen, and Kevin Garnett would make one hell of a Triumvirate, but at what price?

I'm with Pat...if I was a Celtic fan, I wouldn't want to lose both Green and Jefferson (even for Garnett).

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Shrugging Atlas wrote:

As an outsider (not a fan of either team), I wanted to make a quick observation about the way the NBA lottery can turn a team (league?) on its head.

I'm with Pat...if I was a Celtic fan, I wouldn't want to lose both Green and Jefferson (even for Garnett).

Right now, it doesn't matter to me. I would rather see the Celtics be good for 3-4 years now, then wait 4-5 years for them to even make the playoffs but that is just my opinion.

7/30/07

0	(Edited by Nick S) Shut up and don't tell me what to do, I am a grown man. If the kid wants to speak Short Hand, he can got to IM. These are forums and he should be able to write down words like a normal person.

7/30/07

Jengirrl

0	It's made it's way onto the Star Trib online, but I still hope that KG is smarter than that!!

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(Edited by Nick S)

I edited it cause I can't say that stuff on here.

What the hell is BAAAAAAAAASTEN?? If you are trying to make fun of me its Bosten, no one says Boston.

The Celtics had a couple bad years, like every team does, it happens to the best teams in the world. With Ray Allen and Paul Pierce the Celtics are contenders in the East and if KG came here they go to the top of the list. Why would KG not want to make it to the finals? Cause it is much easier to get there in the east then it is the West.

If you want to talk like a rtrd well tlkin abt sports go sumwer else. This is a place for intelligent people to talk about sports, not teenagers who made up a knew language.

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Nick S wrote:

If you know how to speak it, then do it. Don't be a lazy piece, it is not hard to write a couple more letters. Just to let you know, because it makes you look illiterate.

ok, i know how to speak english, i am no lazy piece, i have ahd this conversation 100x im not having it again. i was kidding around trying to be nice and saying that i think the Celts would be good with KG. OK? just chill.

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How couldn't they be?? Well I don't know, they would have the Best 3 man combo of players in the East, which could probably lead them far in the playoffs, if not the finals but that is a waste.

Also, why do people think that players will leave because the city is cold? Because I sure as hell know that if I was a player, if my team wins and it is a cold city, I am not leaving. I am just gonna use my money to dress first. The only factor is winning.

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0	he said he wasnts to stay and probably would go somewhere warm... maybe Milwakee?

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0	milwaukee, sorry i made a spelling error hope that doesn't make me illiterate

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0	i know, but i am sick of it its happenend too many times and it bugs me when people say stupid stuff like that

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0	He doesn't have a choice if he is traded he is traded and if is traded to a Cold City, and wins there, he will stay. I can understand the fact that he would leave if they suck but if they win he will not leave.

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0	donteisking20 wrote: i know, but i am sick of it its happenend too many times and it bugs me when people say stupid stuff like that It bugs you when people say stuff like that and it bugs me when people type like that. There are 2 sides of the story.

7/30/07

0	New Twist: Al Jefferson not included!

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0	CriticalFanatic wrote: ha, that tells you how much I think of Pierce, huh. Now how the heck can I take you seriously when you say things like that?

7/30/07

1	But that's the crazy part about this deal...neither does Ainge. So how are these 2 going to work out a deal where BOTH of them get screwed in the end? I'm really interested in seeing what they come up with...it could be revolutionary.

7/30/07

kantwistaye

0	This would be a disaster. Paul Peirce would not take being the third option on a team, even if it was winning. Plus why would KG want to be a on a team, that might work for one year, and would only get to the Finals at best and end up getting killed there?

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kantwistaye wrote:

This would be a disaster. Paul Peirce would not take being the third option on a team, even if it was winning. Plus why would KG want to be a on a team, that might work for one year, and would only get to the Finals at best and end up getting killed there?

#1: Paul Pierce was fine with being the 2nd option behind Antoine Walker. He won't mind taking a back seat to KG and Ray Allen. It's not like it comes with a pay cut, and Pierce has proven over and over again that he would do ANYTHING to win. If there's one thing we know about Pierce, it's that his attitude WON'T be an issue.

#2: Excellent question. But if that's where the Wolves are willing to trade him, and the options are to stay in Minny or go to Boston, then I think the choice is clear.

7/30/07

TODoubleD

1	I heard that the deal is official! After a lot of bargaining the Celtics finally agreed to the trade ater Minnesota agreed to include F Kevin McHale in the deal. McHale is reportedly happy to be back in Boston! LOL

7/30/07

0	Offensively, Antoine was ALWAYS the me-first guy, and the offense reflected that. Name another PF who took as many shots as Walker, especially from the outside. Ugh...thinking about it is making me sick lol.

7/30/07

TODoubleD

1	The deal is finally complete! After a lot of negotiating the Celtics agreed to the deal after Minnesota agreed to include Kevin Mchale as part of the package. Word is Kevin is happy to be back in Boston! LOL!

7/30/07

0	Danny Ainge=Dunce, AGAIN. We have no bench what so ever after Trading away Green, Big Al, Telfair and Theo, oh and a pick. I LOVE KG, but not at this price.

7/30/07

0	I can't wait to watch an All Star game in a few years featuring Randy Foye, Al Jefferson, Gerald Green and Jeff Green.

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0	Pat wrote: I can't wait to watch an All Star game in a few years featuring Randy Foye, Al Jefferson, Gerald Green and Jeff Green. At least the Celtics didn't trade away all of these players. Oh wait they did!

7/30/07

kantwistaye

0	When you get schooled by Kevin McHale... it might be time to look for a new job.

7/30/07

CriticalFanatic

It's funny. Most Celtic fans have been complaining about how miserable the team has been. Begging Danny Ainge to make a move.

They're instantly East Contenders for at least the next two seasons. And suddenly he's an even bigger idiot "for morgaging the future." If you were that confident in Al Jefferson and Gerald Green then why were you so miserable.

I think this is a spectacular move by Ainge. I'd rather contend for 2-3 years than be good for 5-6. This also instantly makes the Celtics watchable, adds a great deal of revenue to the franchise and above all else -- great for the NBA.

7/30/07

1	My complaint isn't that we gave up a lot for Garnett. It's that we gave up MORE THAN WE HAVE TO. That's the ultimate deciding factor in ANY trade. And once again, Ainge has managed to NOT maximize the deal.

7/30/07

kantwistaye

I think both CF and Pat have good points here, and there are a couple of ways to look at it. Yes, the Celtics will be good this year (but I don't see it working out longer than that), and yes the Celtics being relevant again is GREAT for the NBA. On the other side, the future of the Celtics actually looked pretty decent right until that Ray Allen trade. Green is as talented as they come, and Al Jefferson was looking really good too. A player like Jeff Green would've fit perfectly as a compliment to those two. Now the future of the C's is gone.

7/30/07

shschill

1	The Celtics have been rebuilding for twenty years now. The youth movement was only going to delay them even longer form being a contender for a title. I think this is a brilliant move even if they get rid of Jefferson. It has been a long time since I have WANTED to watch a Celtics game.

7/30/07

My main beef with the trade:

I don't see the Celtics being good enough to win a championship this year
After this year, Garnett is allowed to opt out of his contract.
Ray Allen is old as dirt, and just had surgery on both ankles.
In one year, this trade could quite possibly leave us WORSE off than we were before the draft, if that's even possible.
The only difference being, we DON'T have a #5 pick, Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, etc to wave in front of teams in order to get another "Fix" for the franchise.

I think it's VERY possible, even PROBABLE for the Celtics to end up STILL without another championship in 3-4 years, and have an even worse team, and I have no confidence whatsoever in Danny Ainge's abilities to right the ship again.

The Celtics (and every team) should be working towards a CHAMPIONSHIP, not just marketability. This makes the C's a much better team right now, but still not good enough. And it makes them a MUCH worse team down the road.

7/31/07

offthebench

I've been following the celtics since the 80's ,however, the last time I saw the celtics play an entire game (from pre-game analysis to post-game interviews) was when they became the best playoff team to overhaul the largest recorded third quarter deficit in a playoff series and win the game. Heck, I even can't remember the deficit and what the year was (Can somebody refresh me on this!). Although I vividly registered the image of a fierce Antoine Walker shouting words at his teammates during the third and fourth quarter break and saw a listening Paul Pierce respond with barrages of penetrations, outside sniping and hustle in the fourth to lead the green over Jason Kidd and the nets in the best come from behind NBA playoff game. Although I believe they lost the series.
With this trade, if consummated, they are back in the basketball map. Their games will be again be featured worldwide and most of all, they regularly will be leading the third, not trying to come from behind. Whether they will get 17th remains to be seen, although it is a fair possibility in the next three years. (That's the present. I hope Danny didn't forget the future and start replacing the pieces he just lost. The 2010 season will be similar to 2006 if He doesn't!)
This year's gonna be interesting for boston fans. From the looks of it, the redsox will finally break the yankees rule over the american east and still be playing in October. The celtics season looks it could last until June, 2008. Lest, don't forget the patriots. Got to fight late night urges to stay awake just watch games again!

7/31/07

leebaker03

Finally the Celtics are getting themselves back into playoff contention. With the addition of Ray Allen the Celtics already added around 25 more points per game, and now with the addition of KG! ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! Talk about an insane 1-2-3 punch. Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and Kevin Garnett are all points per game leaders in each league. Now I agree that Al Jefferson is going to be great in the future but right now he's averaging 9 points, 9 rebounds. Kevin Garnett is averaging 20+ points and 12+ rebounds he's a big addition to the can't ever win a game Celtics. Oh and how about him and my boy Glen Davis the Celtics finally have a team that can do it all. They can dunk, shoot the mid range and beyond the arc. The Celtics are going to be unstoppable this year if this deal pulls through.

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