Lance Armstrong will stop fighting U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, could lose Tour de France titles
Cycling, Lance Armstrong

Lance Armstrong has beaten cancer, but he's tired of fighting doping charges

8/23/12 in Cycling   |   Pat   |   5229 respect

Blog Photo - Lance Armstrong will stop fighting U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, could lose Tour de France titlesThe U.S. Anti-Doping Agency has been hounding Lance Armstrong for years, and he has been fighting back the entire time.

Now, the man who once won a battle against testicular cancer has decided that his latest battle just isn't worth it anymore.

Armstrong has decided to stop fighting charges from the USADA, which will likely lead to a lifetime cycling ban for Armstrong, and more importantly the loss of his 7 Tour de France titles.

Despite the fact that he never failed a drug test, the USADA has been all over him like flies on feces.

Travis Tygart, the CEO of the USADA had this to say after Armstrong made his decision to stop fighting the charges:
"It is a sad day for all of us who love sport and our athletic heroes. This is a heartbreaking example of how the win-at-all-costs culture of sport, if left unchecked, will overtake fair, safe and honest competition."

Tygart is right, but for all the wrong reasons.

His statement seems to insinuate an admission of guilt on Armstrong's part.

In reality, it is quite the opposite. Armstrong continues to insist that this is nothing more than a witch hunt, repeatedly pointing to his grand total of zero positive tests.

Some people have decided that this makes him a cheater. Words can't express how flawed that logic is.

Armstrong has his Livestrong charity, which has raised millions of dollars for cancer research. He also has a family, and I'd imagine he would like to spend a little more time with them as well, instead of in court battling baseless charges.

Lance Armstrong might be guilty. But not just because the USADA says so.
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9/29/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

he came back from cancer.  is "chemo" on the doping list?  testicular cancer.  LIke to see anyone go right a bike after having troubles down there.  i still applaud him for achieving what he did.  I'm sure there are other bikers that "doped" and did they win 7?  Did they win any?  People still excel to the level of their capacity.  That is the consistent issue here.  Doping does not guarantee you will win or excel.  That is still something in the person; their innate ability to strive and achieve.

9/29/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

jjh8857 wrote:
I am. I'm just not naive nor do I pick & choose which athletes to accuse of cheating based on whether or not I like them.

probably not many left that haven't doped
so you might as well accept it

9/28/12   |   jjh8857   |   322 respect

jjh8857 wrote:
Lance cheated with blood doping agents to give him durability. He's a cheat plain & simple. Gee wow what's the major difference between Barry Bonds & Lance Armstrong hmmmm...whatever can it be...Total whitewash

Why didn't Barry Bonds hit a HR in every at bat?

9/6/12   |   luciousj_s   |   2451 respect

PurrsAlot wrote:
dont' tell me what to do and how to feel.  You get over EVERYONE in SPORTS doping then!~!!!!!

AFTER ALL THESE YEARS THEY ARE STILL FRETTING? HES WON (6) HOW MANY HAVE THEY TAKEN BACK?

9/5/12   |   jjh8857   |   322 respect

jjh8857 wrote:
What does being French have to do with it?  Hamilton & Landis aren't French.  He's a doper.  He's a cheater.  He's been caught.  Get over it.

I am. I'm just not naive nor do I pick & choose which athletes to accuse of cheating based on whether or not I like them.

9/5/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

jjh8857 wrote:
What does being French have to do with it?  Hamilton & Landis aren't French.  He's a doper.  He's a cheater.  He's been caught.  Get over it.

dont' tell me what to do and how to feel.  You get over EVERYONE in SPORTS doping then!~!!!!!

9/4/12   |   jjh8857   |   322 respect

What does being French have to do with it?  Hamilton & Landis aren't French.  He's a doper.  He's a cheater.  He's been caught.  Get over it.

9/4/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

billywa wrote:
Let's clear up a few misonceptions, shall we?

"Why didn't he win every stage of the tour de france?"

The Tour de France winner is determined by cumulative time (the total time of all the stages). Hence, a cyclist doesn't have to win every stage to win the race. The guy who wins today's stage by 30 seconds could be 9 minutes behind overall and no threat to win the race, so a potential Tour winner is happy to conserve his energy and let someone else win a stage. Further a cyclist neither has to or wants to win every stage. That's because, once you take the lead in the Tour and wear the yellow jersey, cycling code dictates you "honor" the jersey by defending it. That means, your team not only has to work to protect the rider in yellow, they also have to work to set the pace at the front of pack (which means ride harder) and are obligated to chase down attacks. Most riders who aspire to win the Tour are more than happy to let someone else wear yellow to save his teammates for when they're needed in the mountains and later parts of the Tour.

"Barry Bonds' body changed drastically from 'roids".  He beefed up big time, so did McGwire and Sosia and Clemons for that matter.  Lance looks thin and fit but not beefy."

Two different things. The baseball players above used testosterone to build their stamina and durability, so they could take steroids and HGH to bulk up. Armstrong is accused of using EPO (erythropoietin, which helps your body create more red blood cells) and of blood doping (which is receiving transfusions of your own blood to boost your red cell count). Red blood cells are what carry oxygen to your muscles and, by increasing your red blood cell count, a cyclist essentially gives himself an unnaturally large fuel tank that allows him to increase his speed and stamina. Lance may have also used testosterone and steroids, but for enhancing fitness rather than to build muscle mass.

"the fact that he beat cancer and could still ride a bike is a miracle"

Actually, some have argued that it was doping early in his career that caused his cancer.  Whatever caused it, Lance lost muscle mass during his chemo that benefitted him when he returned. He had a well developed upper body from his triathlon swimming days and losing about 20 pounds of muscle mass up there he didn't need for cycling made him a much better rider. 

Anyway, just wanted to help clear up a few things...

billywa

well you stating your opinion clearly ... didn't clear up anything other than what your opinion is.  Those aren't facts.  The french are just pissed off he won so many.  They hate americans except for Jerry Lewis and Miles Davis.  

9/4/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

billywa wrote:
Let's clear up a few misonceptions, shall we?

"Why didn't he win every stage of the tour de france?"

The Tour de France winner is determined by cumulative time (the total time of all the stages). Hence, a cyclist doesn't have to win every stage to win the race. The guy who wins today's stage by 30 seconds could be 9 minutes behind overall and no threat to win the race, so a potential Tour winner is happy to conserve his energy and let someone else win a stage. Further a cyclist neither has to or wants to win every stage. That's because, once you take the lead in the Tour and wear the yellow jersey, cycling code dictates you "honor" the jersey by defending it. That means, your team not only has to work to protect the rider in yellow, they also have to work to set the pace at the front of pack (which means ride harder) and are obligated to chase down attacks. Most riders who aspire to win the Tour are more than happy to let someone else wear yellow to save his teammates for when they're needed in the mountains and later parts of the Tour.

"Barry Bonds' body changed drastically from 'roids".  He beefed up big time, so did McGwire and Sosia and Clemons for that matter.  Lance looks thin and fit but not beefy."

Two different things. The baseball players above used testosterone to build their stamina and durability, so they could take steroids and HGH to bulk up. Armstrong is accused of using EPO (erythropoietin, which helps your body create more red blood cells) and of blood doping (which is receiving transfusions of your own blood to boost your red cell count). Red blood cells are what carry oxygen to your muscles and, by increasing your red blood cell count, a cyclist essentially gives himself an unnaturally large fuel tank that allows him to increase his speed and stamina. Lance may have also used testosterone and steroids, but for enhancing fitness rather than to build muscle mass.

"the fact that he beat cancer and could still ride a bike is a miracle"

Actually, some have argued that it was doping early in his career that caused his cancer.  Whatever caused it, Lance lost muscle mass during his chemo that benefitted him when he returned. He had a well developed upper body from his triathlon swimming days and losing about 20 pounds of muscle mass up there he didn't need for cycling made him a much better rider. 

Anyway, just wanted to help clear up a few things...

billywa

i know what the tour is based on... i was saying if he was so doped up to win 7 in a row he should have wiped out the competition by winning more stages... not just his specialty sections.  Whatever, if anything he was taking sure didn't elevate all his skills then.  I think it's all BS.

9/4/12   |   billywa   |   658 respect

(Edited by billywa)

Let's clear up a few misonceptions, shall we?

"Why didn't he win every stage of the tour de france?"

The Tour de France winner is determined by cumulative time (the total time of all the stages). Hence, a cyclist doesn't have to win every stage to win the race. The guy who wins today's stage by 30 seconds could be 9 minutes behind overall and no threat to win the race, so a potential Tour winner is happy to conserve his energy and let someone else win a stage. Further a cyclist neither has to or wants to win every stage. That's because, once you take the lead in the Tour and wear the yellow jersey, cycling code dictates you "honor" the jersey by defending it. That means, your team not only has to work to protect the rider in yellow, they also have to work to set the pace at the front of pack (which means ride harder) and are obligated to chase down attacks. Most riders who aspire to win the Tour are more than happy to let someone else wear yellow to save his teammates for when they're needed in the mountains and later parts of the Tour.

"Barry Bonds' body changed drastically from 'roids".  He beefed up big time, so did McGwire and Sosia and Clemons for that matter.  Lance looks thin and fit but not beefy."

Two different things. The baseball players above used testosterone to build their stamina and durability, so they could take steroids and HGH to bulk up. Armstrong is accused of using EPO (erythropoietin, which helps your body create more red blood cells) and of blood doping (which is receiving transfusions of your own blood to boost your red cell count). Red blood cells are what carry oxygen to your muscles and, by increasing your red blood cell count, a cyclist essentially gives himself an unnaturally large fuel tank that allows him to increase his speed and stamina. Lance may have also used testosterone and steroids, but for enhancing fitness rather than to build muscle mass.

"the fact that he beat cancer and could still ride a bike is a miracle"

Actually, some have argued that it was doping early in his career that caused his cancer.  Whatever caused it, Lance lost muscle mass during his chemo that benefitted him when he returned. He had a well developed upper body from his triathlon swimming days and losing about 20 pounds of muscle mass up there he didn't need for cycling made him a much better rider. 

Anyway, just wanted to help clear up a few things...

billywa

8/29/12   |   BEAZY31   |   276 respect

Lance is still the man if you ask me. I still wear my LIVESTRONG band with pride. He's right they were on a witch hunt for him and they were never going to give up so it's better he just put his energy into something else instead of trying to fight these douchebags for life. French people just gave us a reason to hate them more. GO LANCE

8/29/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

jjh8857 wrote:
Lance cheated with blood doping agents to give him durability. He's a cheat plain & simple. Gee wow what's the major difference between Barry Bonds & Lance Armstrong hmmmm...whatever can it be...Total whitewash

and the durability was in and out i guess  he would win one stage and then come in 7th in the next then 5th in the next.  where was the durability?  Just whenever he decided to shoot up?  That would have been detected in a nanosecond on the spot.  The French were all over his butt at the time.  He was the most tested rider ever and then 4 years later they decided they might have found something.  bogus

8/29/12   |   jjh8857   |   322 respect

jjh8857 wrote:
Perfect example of Whitewash in sports.  Just look at how the Paperboy gets treated compared to Barry Bonds.  Good riddance Lance.  Youre a doper & now everyone knows it.

Lance cheated with blood doping agents to give him durability. He's a cheat plain & simple. Gee wow what's the major difference between Barry Bonds & Lance Armstrong hmmmm...whatever can it be...Total whitewash

8/28/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

Barry Bonds' body changed drastically from 'roids".  He beefed up big time, so did McGwire and Sosia and Clemons for that matter.  Lance looks thin and fit but not beefy.  Whatever they said he took it sure wasn't on a par with those guys.  His body didn't become a beefsteak beach ball.  And I repeat.  Why didn't he win every stage of the tour de france?  If he was given that huge of an advantage why?  Too many if's on this one.

8/28/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

jjh8857 wrote:
Perfect example of Whitewash in sports.  Just look at how the Paperboy gets treated compared to Barry Bonds.  Good riddance Lance.  Youre a doper & now everyone knows it.

a doper?  I'd like to see you ride a bike doped.  I still contend that beating cancer the way he did is the biggest accomplishment.  I don't think any amount of steroids would have attributed to 7 tour de france wins.  If it did how come he didn't win every stage?  Hardly a whitewash.  He has millions of fans that accept him.  Get over it.  

And does Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosia and Roger Clemons and... 

8/28/12   |   BEAZY31   |   276 respect

PurrsAlot wrote:
i agree!

me too

8/28/12   |   jjh8857   |   322 respect

Perfect example of Whitewash in sports.  Just look at how the Paperboy gets treated compared to Barry Bonds.  Good riddance Lance.  Youre a doper & now everyone knows it.

8/28/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

PurrsAlot wrote:
the French are just pissed he won 7.

i agree!

8/27/12   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

PurrsAlot wrote:
the French are just pissed he won 7.

I think that the French are pissed because they're French....

8/27/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

beerstudk wrote:
I definately don't take this as an admission of guilt, Lance has probably spent several hundreds of thousands of dollars fight these d-bags and that's probably why he's giving up.

On furhter notes:

-USADA does NOT own or run the Tour de France, so THEY can't take his titles away
-I did a Google search and found 70+ cases of doping since 2009 that did NOT include Lance, so doping is RAMPANT in cycling.  In fact, the last 2 winners have been stripped due to doping.
-To further my last point, cyclists are tested EVERY DAY.  If someone at my work was tested that often it would be because he was a user.  So, doping is RAMPANT in cycling.
-What Lance has done OUTSIDE of cycling is more important than his 7 titles.  I know he probably couldn't have done the LIVESTRONG foundation without winning the titles, but it's still his most important work.

Basically, I don't care if he doped or not.  It seems like doping is the think to do while on Tour.  I'll judge Lance on his work for cancer research and awareness.

the French are just pissed he won 7.

8/27/12   |   PurrsAlot   |   1604 respect

he beat cancer!  that is far more important than winning a bicycle race!  the fact that he beat cancer and could still ride a bike is a miracle.  And if anyone thinks that doping alone can make anyone an athlete they are wrong.  Yes he may have taken illegal substances but he was already an amazing cyclist and had the will to survive.  I don't give a damn.  

8/24/12   |   jjh8857   |   322 respect

Glad this clowm finally got what was coming to him

8/24/12   |   mcleodglen   |   32 respect

Somehow this reminds me of Mr. White in Breaking Bad.

8/24/12   |   billywa   |   658 respect

(Edited by billywa)

As a cyclist and one who's followed Lance from his early days in the peloton, in my eyes Armstrong is giving up at this point to maintain some level of credibility. If he were to continue the fight, it appeared the USADA was ready to present to the world evidence from former teammates that he did indeed dope. Two of the most notable of those witnesses, Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis, were both caught doping themselves, denied it with some almost laughable excuses for several years, and then later admitted doping and accused Armstrong of doing the same only when they had books to sell. Hence they are easily impugned witnesses.

However, the witness who could have or did nail Lance was apparently George Hincapie. Hincapie is one of the most respected guys in pro cycling and was, for years, Armstrong's roommate and closest friend in the peleton. No one would doubt any of Hincapie's testimony. Had Armstrong continued the fight, legitimate, unimpeachable testimony from someone like Hincapie that he witnessed and was aware of Lance's doping (and very likely, how he did so and avoided detection) would have hung Armstrong and destroyed his public image.  Avoiding that public airing, Lance can still maintain his denials and continue to point to all his negative tests as proof of his clean riding.

With all that said, whether he did or didn't dope, I think it's BS that the USADA comes after him now, well after his retirement and using evidence in somewhat of a kangaroo court that goes well beyond the standard protocols for every other pro cyclist. Landis and Hamilton were caught and banned for doping in the Tour de France and Olympics respectively. To strip Armstrong's Tour titles, where he never officially tested positive is like retroactively stripping the '54 NY Giants of their World Series title because, 50 years later, they admitted stealing signs...

8/24/12   |   beerstudk   |   1538 respect

I definately don't take this as an admission of guilt, Lance has probably spent several hundreds of thousands of dollars fight these d-bags and that's probably why he's giving up.

On furhter notes:

-USADA does NOT own or run the Tour de France, so THEY can't take his titles away
-I did a Google search and found 70+ cases of doping since 2009 that did NOT include Lance, so doping is RAMPANT in cycling.  In fact, the last 2 winners have been stripped due to doping.
-To further my last point, cyclists are tested EVERY DAY.  If someone at my work was tested that often it would be because he was a user.  So, doping is RAMPANT in cycling.
-What Lance has done OUTSIDE of cycling is more important than his 7 titles.  I know he probably couldn't have done the LIVESTRONG foundation without winning the titles, but it's still his most important work.

Basically, I don't care if he doped or not.  It seems like doping is the think to do while on Tour.  I'll judge Lance on his work for cancer research and awareness.

8/24/12   |   Debi_L   |   11784 respect

IF he cheated, and I don't believe he did, should he have his titles taken away?  If he took something that enhanced his performance, but tested negative for anything on the banned list, he did not cheat under then laws in place then.  If a substance has now been declared banned, if it wasn't at the time he won his titles, he didn't cheat at the time.  

It really is all so very convoluted.  Leave the man alone and let him live his life and enjoy his family time.  He will always be the champion to me, no matter what the USADA announces.

8/24/12   |   scquwi1   |   1227 respect

As the International committee has said, they will wait till USADA comes out with why they believe Armstrong should have his titles taken away, before making any statement. I agree I want to hear and see what they have on Lance first.

8/24/12   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3292 respect

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