Let's Go Racing at Phoenix! [NASCAR Live Thread]

Only two to go in the Chase, Will it be Smoke? Or Flipper?

11/13/11 in NASCAR   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

 By now we've all heard all the fallout from last weekend's truck race at Texas, but it's time to get back to racing. 

Tony Stewart has already said the stuff surrounding Kyle Busch has been just fine for him, allowing him time out of the spotlight and time to prepare for the two weeks to come.  He sits only 3 points behind Carl Edwards, and although he hasn't had all of the consistency the Carl has, he has momentum.  Four wins out of the 8 run so far is bound to work in his favor.  He has the desire that no other driver has.  For the first time since Alan Kulwicki did it years ago, he could be the first owner/driver to win a Championship.  And even though he made the top ten in NASCAR's bad boys, he also seems to have a the majority of fans cheering for him.  Judging by the number of people I've noticed on other websites with the same, or similar, logo as I, "I'm With Smoke" has been a very popular promotional event.  I haven't seen a single person with a "Go Edwards" logo.  

Carl has also been rather quiet this week.  He claimed that he simply wasn't worried about Smoke, and that the other drivers lurking behind Tony were the drivers he was more concerned about.  He expressed confidence in
 being able to keep perspective and not worry about any of his competitors, saying he just needed to keep doing what he had done all year.  In my opinion, remaining in the same race mode as all year may not be the best way to go.  Tony felt his team wasn't good enough to make the Chase back in August, but they ramped things up and he sits second in points.  Carl may want to consider ramping things up himself, if he wants to win this Championship.

Matt Kenseth starts the race from the Pole.  Of course, with the rain in Phoenix (yep, rain in the desert) all the rubber from the two races yesterday has been washed away.  With the new configuration, drivers say there is only one groove around the track.  Passing, they say, is next to impossible.  Could this mean that Kenseth is in the best position to win the race?  Well, of course there will be several pit stops before the race is done, probably a few cautions, and of course, there will be some passing.  The track was a fun one to race before, and was a good show for the fans, and judging by Sam Hornish's victory yesterday in the Nationwide Race, the track hasn't changed all that much.  Sam has won at Phoenix before in the IndyCar series and in fact, got his first IndyCar win at the track in 2001.  If he can race well here, even with the new configuration, and the pavement, surely one of the Sprint Cup drivers who has won here before can do the same.

Coincidentally, Carl Edwards has the fastest qualifying record at Phoenix prior to the new configuration, while Tony has the fastest race win.  Carl Edwards and Ryan Newman are the only non-Hendrick winners at the track in recent history.  Does that give Carl an advantage?  Well, Tony has won here as well, earlier in the the previous decade, and with his teammate, Ryan, showing recently that he knows how to get around the track, does that give Tony an advantage?

And what of Kevin Harvick?  Looking at the stats at Phoenix, Happy's name is conspicuous in its absence.  If you know Harvick, though, that little fact will only make him try harder.  He hasn't been too positive in the last few days about what the race holds for him, but come race time, I'm betting he'll pull out all the stops.

So there you have it.  The race is about to get underway, and we hardly mentioned Kyle Busch.  As it should be, there is a lot to talk about that doesn't involve him.  And the good thing?  With his probation, and the threat of an indefinite suspension if he does anything considered questionable by NASCAR, he should be on his best behavior and not be a factor in the finishing positions of others, as he was in the spring race.  Oh, in case you were wondering, he had contact with Carl, resulting in a 38th place finish for Edwards. 

My pick for the race is Smoke.  I just can't believe he's peaking at this time of the season, and working his ass off the way he is to falter now, when it really counts.  I can't help but think Carl is a little too complacent.

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11/15/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

kramer wrote:
It won't be his first, but I think if Smoke wins this title it will be the greatest moment of his career so far.

I agree, he has already done what everyone said he could'nt, which was make a decent run for the Championship.

11/14/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Wizard31508 wrote:
Who was the last driver to win the championship before jimmie? Smoke
Who is going to dethrown Jimmie? Smoke

It won't be his first, but I think if Smoke wins this title it will be the greatest moment of his career so far.

11/14/11   |   Wizard31508   |   3044 respect

Who was the last driver to win the championship before jimmie? Smoke
Who is going to dethrown Jimmie? Smoke

11/14/11   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

Yesterday was a push, and now the math is simple for Homestead.  3 points = 3 positions.  However, if 1 of the 2 win the race, they win the championship.  History will be made either way.  If it's Smoke, he becomes the first owner/driver in 19 years to win the title.  If it's Edwards, he becomes only the 2nd driver to win both a Busch/Nationwide and Cup championship.  Debi..."Bobbily Abonte" is the only driver to ever do that.

11/14/11   |   texas_tornado4261   |   84383 respect

I'm With Smoke !

11/14/11   |   texas_tornado4261   |   84383 respect

Let's get it done, Smoke !!!!

11/14/11   |   Soxfest   |   768 respect

Smoke all the way!

11/13/11   |   Wizard31508   |   3044 respect

I'm with Smoke

11/13/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

Debi_L wrote:
The two crew chiefs had "words" and Jimmy Fennig (Matt's crew chief) went to speak to Director of Competition, Robin Pemberton. Hmmmmm, I'm thinking he's not buying Brian's "I didn't do it on purpose"

Honestly I don't either. Whatever Vickers thinks, Matt is just not a dirty driver, Vickers saw his chance for a payback and took it.

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

 Now I am seriously ROFLMAO!! Matt just tweeted:  "Congrats @kaseykahne way to show everyone what that equipment is capable of"

Of course, Brian and Kasey are teammates 

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

(Edited by Debi_L)

The two crew chiefs had "words" and Jimmy Fennig (Matt's crew chief) went to speak to Director of Competition, Robin Pemberton. Hmmmmm, I'm thinking he's not buying Brian's "I didn't do it on purpose"

11/13/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

Debi_L wrote:
From Twitter:

  Jenna Fryer 
 
NASCAR says they heard Kenseth say on radio he had lost brakes. Vickers says he didn't try to hit him, Kenseth lifted.

That is interesting since Vicker's said Matt locked them up and didnt know why....guess its a wait and see.

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

From Twitter:

  Jenna Fryer 

 
NASCAR says they heard Kenseth say on radio he had lost brakes. Vickers says he didn't try to hit him, Kenseth lifted.

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

 Kasey Kahne takes the win, Carl stays atop the board in points, with Smoke still 3 behind.  Everyone else has been eliminated from the Championship hunt.  It will come down to the two of them at Homestead.

11/13/11   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

(Edited by Canadianhick)

Hell Yeah! Glad to someone who is long overdue for a win a get one!

11/13/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

Debi_L wrote:
 I had to run out to get my kid from work.  Kyle blew up I heard, Kurt ran  out of fuel, and it appears Brian Vickers, the Kyle Busch wannabe (oh wait, he is a d**khead in his own right) apparently wrecked Matt Kenseth as payback for some imagined slight.  Sadly, i didn't see either.

Yeah, im sure Vickers will get his! YEAH KASEY!!!!!!!!!

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

 I had to run out to get my kid from work.  Kyle blew up I heard, Kurt ran  out of fuel, and it appears Brian Vickers, the Kyle Busch wannabe (oh wait, he is a d**khead in his own right) apparently wrecked Matt Kenseth as payback for some imagined slight.  Sadly, i didn't see either.

11/13/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

Joe_L wrote:


I didn't even say that on this thread.

Never knew Calvin Johnson drove in NASCAR either.

Lol, yeah Q is trippin, im sure whatever you did say was done well

11/13/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

Ugh Kurt leading. Why did Kyle park? I missed it?

11/13/11   |   Joe_L   |   12372 respect

JenX63 wrote:
Well said!



I didn't even say that on this thread.

Never knew Calvin Johnson drove in NASCAR either.

11/13/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

Debi_L wrote:
 With a third of the race complete, my observation is that Tony Stewart wants to win this championship badly.  He wants to lead every single lap and win every race.  He is not content to sit back and run consistently, he wants to WIN!  That, my friends, is the mark of a champion.  

The Q is trippin, has me replying to Joe! Well said Debi. Brian gave a payback to Matt, hated to see that.

11/13/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

Joe_L wrote:
Megatron fumbled the damn ball. Sonofa.....

Well said!

11/13/11   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

I'm trying to watch 3 things at once here and I see twitter has blown up saying Brain Vickers should be parked since Whiny Busch pretty much did the same thing. What in the world did he do that people are so ticked off about?

11/13/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Twitter is telling me Vickers wrecked someone under green. Who was it, and did NASCAR do anything about it?

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

 With a third of the race complete, my observation is that Tony Stewart wants to win this championship badly.  He wants to lead every single lap and win every race.  He is not content to sit back and run consistently, he wants to WIN!  That, my friends, is the mark of a champion.  

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Glad to see old CART guys enjoying themselves in their retirement (although I think Adrian runs ALMS occasionally).

 Yeah, I was watching a race not too long ago (a friend's son in law races in the series) and I'm sure he was in the race.

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

(Edited by Debi_L)

 Tony Stewart takes over the lead, and the lead in the standings, by 7, as they run.  And he did it on the outside, around a lap car, as Matt took the inside around the same lap car.  Carl's spotter told him to be on the lookout.

Competition caution coming up

BTW the lap car they sandwiched was that same Geoff Bodine.  I don't think I would have trusted Bodine that much...

11/13/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Debi_L wrote:
 Sorry Eric, missed your comment, but yep, he sure did, and he was great.  Smile on him was a mile wide too!!! He is obviously having fun 

Glad to see old CART guys enjoying themselves in their retirement (although I think Adrian runs ALMS occasionally).

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

  Geoff Bodine? Holy crap, what did PIR FIND WHEN THE DUG THE TRACK UP! PUT IT BACK!


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11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Geoff Bodine still races? Um, why?

 Yeah, that was my question, too.  Almost tweeted something ummmm not nice, but I restrained myself 

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Did I understand Dario's twitter right, and that Adrian Fernandez gave the command? If so, cool.

 Sorry Eric, missed your comment, but yep, he sure did, and he was great.  Smile on him was a mile wide too!!! He is obviously having fun 

11/13/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Geoff Bodine still races? Um, why?

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

 Yeah, I think 3 1/2 hours for this race might be a little low.............

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

 Okaaaaaay then, first caution on Lap 3??  This is gonna be a loooooong race at this pace.  Might take Tagan out of the picture as a helper for either Matt or Carl, should those team orders be in mind.......oh wait! There are no team orders in NASCAR!! 

11/13/11   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Did I understand Dario's twitter right, and that Adrian Fernandez gave the command? If so, cool.

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

JenX63 wrote:
Bite your tongue! Lol, kidding, watching yesterday, passing is difficult, made for some great racing. Matt, Kevin, or Tony, I'm good with any if them, ummm but Tony the most :D

 Consider it bitten 

11/13/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

Debi_L wrote:
 I'm not counting Matt or Kevin out either!! My gut says Smoke, and I'm cheering for him loudly.  Carl will probably surprise us all and win the damn race, because he is the one driver I simply cannot cheer for, and that is what usually happens LOL.

Bite your tongue! Lol, kidding, watching yesterday, passing is difficult, made for some great racing. Matt, Kevin, or Tony, I'm good with any if them, ummm but Tony the most :D

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

 Wow! Can actually SEE blue skies there!  

  Hmmmm wasn't that invocation interesting?  It seemed directed at ahem*cough*Kyle*cough*cough......

11/13/11   |   Canadianhick   |   2149 respect

(Edited by Canadianhick)

I like Smoke to win these race too as he one is guy one who can seem to adapt too changes as we have no clue what the track is gonna do as the rain likely washed all the rubber that was laid down in yesterday's two races.  

11/13/11   |   Debi_L   |   11862 respect

 I'm not counting Matt or Kevin out either!! My gut says Smoke, and I'm cheering for him loudly.  Carl will probably surprise us all and win the damn race, because he is the one driver I simply cannot cheer for, and that is what usually happens LOL.

11/13/11   |   JenX63   |   32768 respect

If doing nothing is consistent, then Carl is doing it. These last two races are going to be nail biters! I'm not counting Happy out, but my heart and every good thing I have is pulling for Smoke! Let's go racing!