Lloyd Carr to Retire At Season's End -- Who's Next for Michigan? | NCAAF

11/12/07

0	I'm certain this was 100% his choice too. The best part is that they will replace him with the one coach most similar to him in the whole nation. I shouldn't mock him too much though, not many people get to as many Rose Bowls as he did even if it was mostly because the school name attracts tons of talent.

11/12/07

CriticalFanatic

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kantwistaye wrote:

I'm certain this was 100% his choice too. The best part is that they will replace him with the one coach most similar to him in the whole nation. I shouldn't mock him too much though, not many people get to as many Rose Bowls as he did even if it was mostly because the school name attracts tons of talent.

Honestly, before the Appy State game there were a lot of rumors this offseason that he was stepping down this year regardless of the outcome.

11/12/07

Jubanator14

0	I think this is 100% his choice also. I hope he wins this weekend and the Rose Bowl then just gives them a Joe Glenn and walks away.

11/12/07

kantwistaye

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CriticalFanatic wrote:

Honestly, before the Appy State game there were a lot of rumors this offseason that he was stepping down this year regardless of the outcome.

I heard those too, but I still think he got quite a bit of pressure to make this his last year after that. Ultimately it doesn't matter. I just know if I were Michigan I'd try to find out if Spurrier would have any interest leaving South Carolina, and if that fails see if Bobby Petrino wants out of Atlanta. Then, I'd probably go with Ron English, and if that somehow failed I guess go with Les Miles.

11/13/07

saylorgator

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kantwistaye wrote:

I heard those too, but I still think he got quite a bit of pressure to make this his last year after that. Ultimately it doesn't matter. I just know if I were Michigan I'd try to find out if Spurrier would have any interest leaving South Carolina, and if that fails see if Bobby Petrino wants out of Atlanta. Then, I'd probably go with Ron English, and if that somehow failed I guess go with Les Miles.

I could see Spurrier leaving South Carolina. He's got to be feeling like he'll never win there.

11/13/07

Todd

0	I'd hate to lose Oregon OC Chip Kelly, but I could see him leaving for a big-name program like Michigan. He's possibly the best offensive mind in all of college football.

11/13/07

Seth

3	(Edited by Seth) Those guys are all good choices, but maybe Michigan could hire a defensive coordinator as coach. I'm thinking Kevin Cosgrove.

11/13/07

CriticalFanatic

2	Todd wrote: I'd hate to lose Oregon OC Chip Kelly, but I could see him leaving for a big-name program like Michigan. He's possibly the best offensive mind in all of college football. The Michigan faithful are interested in an Oregon coach, but it's not of the assistant variety.

11/13/07

Todd

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CriticalFanatic wrote:

The Michigan faithful are interested in an Oregon coach, but it's not of the assistant variety.

If your referring to Mike Bellotti, he has said that he wants a national championship at Oregon, then he would consider retirement for himself. He doesn't want an NFL job, and he doesn't consider a "lateral move" for himself or assistants accepting similar gigs, a wise choice.

But he has talked to other schools in the past, so that and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee, I suppose.

11/13/07

soxfan90

0	Lloyd Carr wants to put an end to his bowl game/big game misery. This would be the easy way out.

11/13/07

CriticalFanatic

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Todd wrote:

If your referring to Mike Bellotti, he has said that he wants a national championship at Oregon, then he would consider retirement for himself. He doesn't want an NFL job, and he doesn't consider a "lateral move" for himself or assistants accepting similar gigs, a wise choice.

But he has talked to other schools in the past, so that and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee, I suppose.

Coaches have said a lot of things that sound great to their current fan base. I bet Bellotti interviews at the very least.

I wouldn't leave if I was Mike not with Nike is his back pocket, although if there's a school that the swoosh has just as much influence over it's the winged helmet.

11/13/07

kantwistaye

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Todd wrote:

If your referring to Mike Bellotti, he has said that he wants a national championship at Oregon, then he would consider retirement for himself. He doesn't want an NFL job, and he doesn't consider a "lateral move" for himself or assistants accepting similar gigs, a wise choice.

But he has talked to other schools in the past, so that and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee, I suppose.

Not that I would leave Oregon right now either, but I don't think Oregon (or just about any school) to Michigan is a lateral move. Thats a move up. That said, it'd be hard to leave Oregon after this season unless they just bomb out to finish the season.

11/13/07

tomatdst

0	saylorgator wrote: I could see Spurrier leaving South Carolina. He's got to be feeling like he'll never win there. "I could see Spurrier leaving South Carolina. He's got to be feeling like he'll never win there." Spurrier is having a terrible year at SC, plus he's 61-62 years old. I doubt Michigan will approach him. Tom www.dailysportstrivia.com

11/13/07

Todd

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CriticalFanatic wrote:

Coaches have said a lot of things that sound great to their current fan base. I bet Bellotti interviews at the very least.

I wouldn't leave if I was Mike not with Nike is his back pocket, although if there's a school that the swoosh has just as much influence over it's the winged helmet.

I think though that Michigan fans would be equally unhappy when Bellotti has a 7 or 8 win season on a given year. It's bound to happen, as it has several times over the past 12 years in Bellotti's tenure at Oregon.

11/13/07

Todd

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kantwistaye wrote:

Not that I would leave Oregon right now either, but I don't think Oregon (or just about any school) to Michigan is a lateral move. Thats a move up. That said, it'd be hard to leave Oregon after this season unless they just bomb out to finish the season.

Bellotti was offered the USC job before Pete Carroll took it, and he flew to Notre Dame to (at least) listen to their schpeel. That fact that he stayed at a school, in a small media market, like Oregon, says a lot about his character and integrity.

11/13/07

Todd

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CriticalFanatic wrote:

Coaches have said a lot of things that sound great to their current fan base. I bet Bellotti interviews at the very least.

I wouldn't leave if I was Mike not with Nike is his back pocket, although if there's a school that the swoosh has just as much influence over it's the winged helmet.

Since Bellotti and Phil Knight are close, I think Knight would rather have Bellotti in his back yard, more so than in his back pocket.

11/13/07

Tron

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kantwistaye wrote:

I'm certain this was 100% his choice too. The best part is that they will replace him with the one coach most similar to him in the whole nation. I shouldn't mock him too much though, not many people get to as many Rose Bowls as he did even if it was mostly because the school name attracts tons of talent.

Les Miles gets knocked around a lot for a guy who hasn't lost more than two games in a season since being at LSU and coached Oklahoma St. to two victories over Oklahoma. If the SEC is soooo strong, then shouldn't he get some credit for that?

He is a great recruiter and does a great job of hiring strong coordinators. I think he would be a good hire.

As much as I would love to have Spurrier, he would only be able to golf 5 months out of the year. It's too cold for him.

11/13/07

tpowell25

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Tron wrote:

Les Miles gets knocked around a lot for a guy who hasn't lost more than two games in a season since being at LSU and coached Oklahoma St. to two victories over Oklahoma. If the SEC is soooo strong, then shouldn't he get some credit for that?

He is a great recruiter and does a great job of hiring strong coordinators. I think he would be a good hire.

As much as I would love to have Spurrier, he would only be able to golf 5 months out of the year. It's too cold for him.

Les Miles is still living in Saban's shadow, so to speak. Until he plays with 100% of his own recruits, that will remain in everyone's conversation about him. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, true or not, or if I dissagree or not with that. That's just the way it is in college football conversations.

If he sticks around for another year or two at LSU and continues his success, I imagine he would get the credit he is due.

With that being said, I think Miles has done a great job at LSU and I think he is a great motivator and coach. Like you said, he does the most imortant thing that a head coach needs to do to be succesfull: He surrounds himself with good personnell. I hope he stays at LSU. The LSU/Bama game has a little more fire to it with him there.

11/14/07

Marshall

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CriticalFanatic wrote:

Coaches have said a lot of things that sound great to their current fan base. I bet Bellotti interviews at the very least.

I wouldn't leave if I was Mike not with Nike is his back pocket, although if there's a school that the swoosh has just as much influence over it's the winged helmet.

Did you forget Michigan left Nike for Adidas. And don't tell me you were referring to a certain coach at Cincy? Michigan will hopefully go outside the box and make a move towards progression but I think Kelly is a bit too much of a stretch for MI to make...although I'd love it. Michigan running a circus offense would be amazing. Not to mention hes won everywhere with his own talent and others talents. He even took Mike Debord's (Carr's handpicked replacement) failed talent and took them to a MAC title and bowl victory in one year. He has taken Dantonio's mediocre offensive at Cincy and made it explosive.
But lets take a look at candidates. Bellotti, Tedford, Kelly, Debord, English, (don't be suprised) Bronco Mendenhall(BYU), and Miles....My gut tells me Miles gets the job.

11/14/07

Seth

0	Here in Columbus, the name getting all the news is Miles. Doesn't mean squat, just thought I'd pass it along.

11/14/07

CriticalFanatic

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Marshall wrote:

Did you forget Michigan left Nike for Adidas. And don't tell me you were referring to a certain coach at Cincy? Michigan will hopefully go outside the box and make a move towards progression but I think Kelly is a bit too much of a stretch for MI to make...although I'd love it. Michigan running a circus offense would be amazing. Not to mention hes won everywhere with his own talent and others talents. He even took Mike Debord's (Carr's handpicked replacement) failed talent and took them to a MAC title and bowl victory in one year. He has taken Dantonio's mediocre offensive at Cincy and made it explosive.
But lets take a look at candidates. Bellotti, Tedford, Kelly, Debord, English, (don't be suprised) Bronco Mendenhall(BYU), and Miles....My gut tells me Miles gets the job.

I did forget that ... was that this year or last?

Miles is going to take it, but yes I think Michigan will take a look at Kelly and UConn's coach if he were to somehow decline. Mendenhall deserves a better job somewhere. BTW, Kelly has played a MUCH easier schedule this year than Dantonio had last year but people never look into that sort of thing.

11/14/07

kantwistaye

0	Even though he declined Alabama and Miami last year, Michigan would be making a mistake if they didn't look at Jim Leavitt. Greg Schiano would be worth a look too, I would say take a look at Rich Rodriguez too but that would result in a complete overhaul that wouldn't make it worth it.