MLB ALDS Sunday Live Thread: Red Sox and Indians Try to Complete Divisional Sweeps

0	Since the Patriots aren't on TV here, I won't miss a second of this one. Schilling will lead the Sox to the sweep.

10/7/07

0	Jered Weaver is pitching well so far. He got in a jam with runners on 2nd and 3rd with no out, but induced a weak grounder to Drew, and struck out Varitek and Crisp. I'm optimistic that the top/middle of the order will get to him soon. Manny and Lowell each had excellent at bats, so I think it's only a matter of time before Weaver collapses.

10/7/07

0	Is it CF's blog only? where are all the other peoples? No way CF should be the only blogger on this page......NO way

10/7/07

0	Huh?

10/7/07

0	Confused about post #3, but after the Chiefs loss; I'll be fine with watching baseball for the rest of the day...Can anyone tell me the most sweeps in LDS since the wildcard? Pretty sure all 4 never have been swept before, not positive.

10/7/07

0	Bases chucked early...lets see if Schilling can get out of it; or the rookie can come through.

10/7/07

1	The most sweeps in one round of the ALDS is 2. It happened in 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2005, 2006, and already this year. If either the Red Sox or Indians win today, that will break the record. (source)

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: The most sweeps in one round of the ALDS is 2. It happened in 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2005, 2006, and already this year. If either the Red Sox or Indians win today, that will break the record. (source) Thank you very much, kind sir.

10/7/07

Chief_aka_James wrote:

Bases chucked early...lets see if Schilling can get out of it; or the rookie can come through.

Schill's making me nervous today. He's not pitching nearly as well as I would have hoped. He got out of this one, but he can't keep pitching like this. It WILL come back to get him eventually. This Angels lineup is too good for that, and they have the speed to punish the Sox badly for mistakes.

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: Huh? blog home is nothing but pages and pages of blogs from CF

10/7/07

0	Chief_aka_James wrote: Thank you very much, kind sir. Don't thank me, thank Baseball Reference. They, along with their sister sites, Pro Football Reference and Basketball Reference are some of the greatest sports information sites around. HR PAPI!!!!!!!!!

10/7/07

0	$Big BANK Bob$ wrote: blog home is nothing but pages and pages of blogs from CF Then write more blogs. CF's job is to blog all day. Literally. Anything less from him would be a disappointment. But I know you know that everyone else's blogs are more than welcome as well.

10/7/07

Pat wrote:

Don't thank me, thank Baseball Reference. They, along with their sister sites, Pro Football Reference and Basketball Reference are some of the greatest sports information sites around.

HR PAPI!!!!!!!!!

Use Baseball and Football; always have enjoyed. Mostly look for just Player by player stats though.

Young Jered didn't seem too happy with that one; his hair sticking out like that continues to bug me though..

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: Then write more blogs. CF's job is to blog all day. Literally. Anything less from him would be a disappointment. But I know you know that everyone else's blogs are more than welcome as well. dude, no one else is good enough? that is all I am saying.

10/7/07

0	MANNY!!!!!!!

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: MANNY!!!!!!! Back to back jacks; can't believe they said that was the first this year...I always love how Papi is more excited when Manny hits his than his own.

10/7/07

1	Just saw a great sign in the stands...I'll see if I can replicate it, since I don't have DVR anymore. By the way...if Manny keeps doing that HR walk, he's going to get drilled. At least, he would if I was pitching.

10/7/07

1	The taunting to the camera is always fine with me, whatever in the dugout; but to stand there and do it right to him in between home and first...he should get hit.

10/7/07

0	$Big BANK Bob$ wrote: dude, no one else is good enough? that is all I am saying. This isn't really the place for this conversation, but you are more than welcome to talk to Ty or CF via private message, and they would be more than happy to explain the blog system and/or accommodate your own blogs, if that's what you're looking for.

10/7/07

Jon

1	Pat wrote: Just saw a great sign in the stands...I'll see if I can replicate it, since I don't have DVR anymore. By the way...if Manny keeps doing that HR walk, he's going to get drilled. At least, he would if I was pitching. Don't quit your day job.

10/7/07

Pat wrote:

This isn't really the place for this conversation, but you are more than welcome to talk to Ty or CF via private message, and they would be more than happy to explain the blog system and/or accommodate your own blogs, if that's what you're looking for.

no response from TY I have asked. I am looking for more peoples perspective and it is CF only.

but who cares really. I was just asking if it was CF's blog only. I posted one yesterday and cant even find it unless I do an extensive search. But who really cares right

10/7/07

0	Jon wrote: Don't quit your day job. Ugh...if I could, I would. No one told me that I couldn't put in my 2 weeks notice whenever I wanted to, when I joined the Marines. But that's another story for another day.

10/7/07

1	ALMOST a great catch there by Coco; instead, a leadoff double for the Angels.

10/7/07

0	7IP, 100 pitches, 0 ER. I'd say thats good enough for Schilling; but will be interested in seeing who exactly they bring out for the final 6 outs.

10/7/07

0	Chief_aka_James wrote: 7IP, 100 pitches, 0 ER. I'd say thats good enough for Schilling; but will be interested in seeing who exactly they bring out for the final 6 outs. Maybe if the Angels can get 3 outs, we'll find out. I wouldn't be surprised to see Javier Lopez get in an inning or 2 in what is turning out to be garbage time.

10/7/07

0	This just in. The Angels are done. Wow, all 4 series could end in sweeps.

10/7/07

0	(Edited by Chief_aka_James) Pat wrote: Maybe if the Angels can get 3 outs, we'll find out. I wouldn't be surprised to see Javier Lopez get in an inning or 2 in what is turning out to be garbage time. Jeez; at 2-0, I thought they still had a shot. Now; its just getting ugly, and quick. 7-0 now and 2 more in scoring position... Edit:: lets make that 9-0...

10/7/07

0	Glad to see Okajima in here. I didn't think they'd put him in here, but it's nice to see him get a little more playoff experience, even if it is in a blowout.

10/7/07

0	That does it..3 sweeps; 1 to go.

10/7/07

0	Chief_aka_James wrote: That does it..3 sweeps; 1 to go. And who wouldn't love to see the Yanks get swept? That would be a great finish to this first round.

10/7/07

0	Jeter error and Cabrera hurt just as the games switch over

10/7/07

Good start...as soon as the Yankees game comes on, the first thing I see is Jeter making a throwing error. Unfortunately, the official scorer is apparently a Yankee fan, and doesn't want to tarnish DJ's image, so they rule it an infield hit, even though it was clearly a terrible throw, and they would have got him if it were on target.

I hope that error leads to a run or 2...that would be priceless to see the Yankees' favorite son blow this series for them.

10/7/07

0	How about what TBS quoted George of saying, "If the Yankees do not pull off a win of this series, Joe Torre will probably not be managing next season."

10/7/07

Chief_aka_James wrote:

How about what TBS quoted George of saying, "If the Yankees do not pull off a win of this series, Joe Torre will probably not be managing next season."

Torre's a bit overrated as a manager, but Steinbrenner's a complete idiot for coming out and saying that right now. The timing couldn't possibly be any worse. Right now, he should be throwing all of his support behind his manager and players, not threatening to throw them under the bus.

10/7/07

0	1-0, should be an unearned run, due to the Jeter error. Good start.

10/7/07

0	Well theres one run..

10/7/07

0	I must say, I love that Lou Piniella water commercial

10/7/07

1	I have never seen so much excitement over a foul ball bunt in my life...

10/7/07

0	Great double play by Peralta.

10/7/07

0	Is that Bob Brenly I hear?

10/7/07

0	And now Jeter hits into a DP. This is great. I love it.

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: And now Jeter hits into a DP. This is great. I love it. yeah, that was a good play.

10/7/07

0	I'm amazed at the DS this year... (hopefully) 4 sweeps. Thats shocking for baseball.

10/7/07

0	Bad thing for Clemens; Yankees-- pitch count is high to start the game... so if Cleveland keeps making Roger pitch, they will start to get into their bullpen... however, Joba will most likely relieve Clemens. The rules won't apply here... this is do or die. A good thing for the Yankees is that there are no bugs all over the damn place.

10/7/07

1	HR TROT!!! Go Tribe!!!

10/7/07

0	HOME RUN INDIANS-- TROT NIXON CLE 2-0

10/7/07

1	Pat wrote: HR TROT!!! Go Tribe!!! Pat must be as giddy as a schoolboy...

10/7/07

0	Chief_aka_James wrote: Pat must be as giddy as a schoolboy... i wonder what you'd call me-- i was clapping and laughing bad when i saw Trot's ball just ease out of the field... and when Cleveland scored their first run. LOL! This is funny...

10/7/07

0	STEAL!

10/7/07

1	Chief_aka_James wrote: Pat must be as giddy as a schoolboy... Yeah...I think it's safe to say that Chris and I are both a little excited right now. In the heart of every Red Sox fan, there is an inherent contempt for the Yankees. Seeing them get swept would be the best thing since...well...I guess a little while ago, when the Sox finished sweeping the Angels.

10/7/07

Pat wrote:

Yeah...I think it's safe to say that Chris and I are both a little excited right now. In the heart of every Red Sox fan, there is an inherent contempt for the Yankees. Seeing them get swept would be the best thing since...well...I guess a little while ago, when the Sox finished sweeping the Angels.

Yes sir! This can't get any better! How shameful does Roger Clemens feel right now, Pat? He went to New York for the $$, and look what happened. LOL! He blew his chance to end his career much better than this...

10/7/07

Chris wrote:

Serves him right. He claimed that he only wanted to play for a championship, and then inexplicably went to a team that was about a dozen games behind, at the time. Clearly, it was all about the money. He almost got his shot, but the Yankees are deservedly getting blown out of this series, and I couldn't possibly enjoy this any more than I do right now.

10/7/07

1	Alex Rodriguez now has as many hits in this series as Derek Jeter. But chad_is_god will still blame this series on him.

10/7/07

1	ANOTHER DOUBLE PLAY!!! HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: Alex Rodriguez now has as many hits in this series as Derek Jeter. But chad_is_god will still blame this series on him. And of course, Posada, CIG's "other" choice for MVP wastes it by grounding into a DP, just like "Mr. November" Derek Jeter.

10/7/07

1	Pat wrote: Alex Rodriguez now has as many hits in this series as Derek Jeter. But chad_is_god will still blame this series on him. Well Jeter would have legged that one out at 2nd base...

10/7/07

0	i wonder if Schuyler is doing ok... this must be heartbreaking for him.

10/7/07

0	Chris wrote: i wonder if Schuyler is doing ok... this must be heartbreaking for him. You have no idea...

10/7/07

0	How old does Clemens look now? Out now; will we see another Cingular commercial next season?

10/7/07

0	Clemens gets the hook! Looks like the Yankees bullpen is going to have to put in some serious work. I think Hughes will go at least 4 or 5.

10/7/07

0	Although he probably said "I WANNA PITCH!" it looks like the Rocket is done.

10/7/07

0	and 3-0....

10/7/07

0	ANOTHER RUN!! 3-0

10/7/07

0	i'll be back... stepping out...

10/7/07

0	Chris wrote: i'll be back... stepping out... Going to do a dance outside not safe for indoors?

10/7/07

0	I have no idea why Martinez threw to third there. That was a terrible decision.

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: I have no idea why Martinez threw to third there. That was a terrible decision. he still is a very young player; a bad decision, see if it costs them or not.

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: I have no idea why Martinez threw to third there. That was a terrible decision. i agree... take the guaranteed out...the worst part though was how he hesitated

10/7/07

0	and does atleast 1 run so far...

10/7/07

0	Another double play, yikes!

10/7/07

0	is this the Cubs/D'backs game again?

10/7/07

0	That's the 2nd time Jeter has grounded into a double play. His mediocre play today has cost them at least 1 run in the field, 4 outs at the plate, and possibly a few more runs that would have scored, had he been able to get a hit.

10/7/07

2	Pat wrote: That's the 2nd time Jeter has grounded into a double play. His mediocre play today has cost them at least 1 run in the field, 4 outs at the plate, and possibly a few more runs that would have scored, had he been able to get a hit. It's A-Rod's Fault!!! A-Rod's only wants money and he's making Jeter look bad so he gets paid more!!! lol

10/7/07

0	pat i know that this is kind of a random question, but i am just wondering if there is anything that you look for inperticular while watching baseball, or anything that jumps out at you. I am just curious

10/7/07

chad_is_god wrote:

pat i know that this is kind of a random question, but i am just wondering if there is anything that you look for inperticular while watching baseball, or anything that jumps out at you. I am just curious

I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but whenever I get a chance, I always look for a Red Sox win, and/or a Yankees loss. I have a feeling that's not what you were asking, but that's my answer, until you clarify the question.

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but whenever I get a chance, I always look for a Red Sox win, and/or a Yankees loss. I have a feeling that's not what you were asking, but that's my answer, until you clarify the question. well i meant like strategies played by managers or pitcher's/batters mechanics

10/7/07

chad_is_god wrote:

well i meant like strategies played by managers or pitcher's/batters mechanics

I generally try to watch the pitchers, more so than hitters. I've been a pitcher my whole life, so I love watching good pitchers. I try to watch the signs, if they show them on tv, and I watch where the catcher is setting up, and try to see how often the pitcher is hitting his spots. I also look to see how the pitchers set up the players, like how Westbrook is throwing a lot of sinkers, looking to induce the ground ball, as he has done so well so far this game.

When I'm watching hitters, I usually try to see how well they're tracking the pitch, and it's pretty obvious when they're not swinging well, like Varitek when he struck out in the 7th today against Shields. He looked off balance, and was swinging at bad pitches, because he wasn't seeing the pitches well enough.

I also like to analyze the fielding, like how they just called an error on Cano on a very tough play, but Jeter's error was called an infield hit, when it should have been a relatively easy out.

As far as managers, I like to see how they use their pitchers, and how quick or slow they are to pull a pitcher. My pet peeve was Grady Little, who ALWAYS pulled Pedro Martinez too early in 2003, except against the Yankees in the ALCS, when he left him in for too long, and it cost them the series.

10/7/07

Pat wrote:

oh cool!

i just want to add what i watch for...it's pretty similar here, but i also like to see certain tactics the catchers have like when they pat the glove and then set up the target on the opposite side of the plate

i think it would be really cool if i could talk to a guy like Yogi just to ask him when he had conversations one on one with the pitchers what they would talk about, and the different strategies against certain hitters.

10/7/07

0	Damon just hit a 3 run HR 5-3 Yanks now

10/7/07

0	3-run HR for Damon...Pat NOT as giddy anymore.

10/7/07

0	You know Westbrook isn't pitching well when guys are getting under the ball and hitting fly balls. Even that pop out to Sizemore was a bad sign, because when Westbrook is on, they should be hitting ground balls.

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: You know Westbrook isn't pitching well when guys are getting under the ball and hitting fly balls. Even that pop out to Sizemore was a bad sign, because when Westbrook is on, they should be hitting ground balls. and that being said he has had a few ground balls including the double plays

10/7/07

0	chad_is_god wrote: and that being said he has had a few ground balls including the double plays Earlier in the game, yes. But it seemed like a switch was flipped last inning, and he started letting them get under the ball.

10/7/07

0	SOB! I want to see the ALCS... get the hell out of the freaking way Yankees! Red Sox are ready for the Indians!

10/7/07

0	Chris wrote: SOB! I want to see the ALCS... get the hell out of the freaking way Yankees! Red Sox are ready for the Indians! Eh...no worries. I don't mind the Indians getting a little worn out, and losing a little confidence. And after Roger getting pulled so early, the Yankees' pitching staff will be hurting a little bit, so the Tribe will take care of them soon.

10/7/07

0	And now Alex Rodriguez has 2 hits, which is twice as many as Derek Jeter.

10/7/07

Pat wrote:

Eh...no worries. I don't mind the Indians getting a little worn out, and losing a little confidence. And after Roger getting pulled so early, the Yankees' pitching staff will be hurting a little bit, so the Tribe will take care of them soon.

true. A rested Red Sox squad will be best, and this gives them the opportunity to use Beckett in game 1, and start the string again if they get 2 days off.

10/7/07

0	dang... i think this is going to game 4 if the Yankees start to dump some runs in...

10/7/07

0	i hope that intentional walk won't hurt the Indians... Cano can easily blow this open to a 9-3 game...

10/7/07

0	damn it.

10/7/07

0	the announcer's enthusiam didn't help either...

10/7/07

0	"the game is busted WIDE open"

10/7/07

0	8-3 end of inning... ok... Cleveland needs to turn up the heat on those bats...

10/7/07

0	chad_is_god wrote: "the game is busted WIDE open" it will save them in game 3 to force a game 4... but not their playoff future. Indians WILL clinch this series, and knock off those damn Yankees. "Never say die!" Will falter for the 7th year in a row for New York, and "what if" and "why" questions will arise again, and the blame game will return in the winter for the city of New York.

10/7/07

0	(Edited by Pat) Excellent...Joba "Choke Job" Chamberlain is coming in. Good things are coming for the Tribe.

10/7/07

Chris wrote:

it will save them in game 3 to force a game 4... but not their playoff future. Indians WILL clinch this series, and knock off those damn Yankees. "Never say die!" Will falter for the 7th year in a row for New York, and "what if" and "why" questions will arise again, and the blame game will return in the winter for the city of New York.

spoken like a true red sox fan...i am not saying you are wrong, but the yanks have been 2 down in a division series before against Oakland, so exactly so when "never say die" comes into effect.

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: Excellent...Joba "Choke Job" Chamberlain is coming in. Good things are coming for the Tribe. yeah the good things are called strikeouts lol

10/7/07

chad_is_god wrote:

spoken like a true red sox fan...i am not saying you are wrong, but the yanks have been 2 down in a division series before against Oakland, so exactly so when "never say die" comes into effect.

well it's obvious that game 3, 4, and 5 would all be games the Yankees will say "never say die!"... they are facing elimination... they may have survived round 3... but their knockout is coming!!!

10/7/07

0	i am going to go a little off topic...i am not sure if there is a live thread for the football game, but the Packers just took the lead 14-7 5 mins before halftime..... we now return to your originaly schedualed program lol

10/7/07

0	chad_is_god wrote: i am going to go a little off topic...i am not sure if there is a live thread for the football game, but the Packers just took the lead 14-7 5 mins before halftime..... we now return to your originaly schedualed program lol The football thread is here.

10/7/07

0	thanks Pat!

10/7/07

0	That ball was about 10 feet from exposing Joba for the fraud that he is.

10/7/07

1	chad_is_god wrote: thanks Pat! So...how did this game feel, considering the biggest offensive heroes of this game were Damon and Rodriguez, 2 guys who you've been bashing all year, while Jeter was 0-4, with 3 LOB, and grounded into 2 DP, as well as made an error that led to a run...how do you like that?

10/7/07

(Edited by Chief_aka_James)
Pat wrote:

So...how did this game feel, considering the biggest offensive heroes of this game were Damon and Rodriguez, 2 guys who you've been bashing all year, while Jeter was 0-4, with 3 LOB, and grounded into 2 DP, as well as made an error that led to a run...how do you like that?

Aww; you beat me to it...Don't forget that Posada went 1-3 and grounded into a DP too.

10/7/07

Pat wrote:

i personaly dont care at this point as long as we win...i still hate damon with a passion, but he shows up in the post season which is a better time than never!

10/7/07

0	chad_is_god wrote: i personaly dont care at this point as long as we win...i still hate damon with a passion, but he shows up in the post season which is a better time than never! Out of curiosity...any idea when your boys Posada and Jeter are gonna show up?

10/7/07

1	chad_is_god wrote: i personaly dont care at this point as long as we win...i still hate damon with a passion, but he shows up in the post season which is a better time than never! So as long as the Yankees win; you don't care who does it...but if they lose; its all A-Rod and Damon's fault... Makes sense...

10/7/07

0	Chief_aka_James wrote: So as long as the Yankees win; you don't care who does it...but if they lose; its all A-Rod and Damon's fault... Makes sense... not Damon in the post season because for some reason he hits well in the playoffs...and A-Rod year in and year out just straight up sux in the playoffs with the yankees so yeah pretty much

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: Out of curiosity...any idea when your boys Posada and Jeter are gonna show up? i am not sure lemme check my crystall ball....you are asking me? lol

10/7/07

0	chad_is_god wrote: not Damon in the post season because for some reason he hits well in the playoffs...and A-Rod year in and year out just straight up sux in the playoffs with the yankees so yeah pretty much If A-Rod sucks in the playoffs, then how would you evaluate Jeter's performance so far this year?

10/7/07

0	Pat wrote: If A-Rod sucks in the playoffs, then how would you evaluate Jeter's performance so far this year? the worst of his post seasons ever...but the sad thing is A-Rod has had worse than the one he is having right now...Jeter has not

10/8/07

0	is this the thread for game 4 too?

10/9/07

1	chad_is_god wrote: is this the thread for game 4 too? nope. a seperate thread was made. but there won't be a need for a game 5 thread.

10/9/07

0	Chris wrote: nope. a seperate thread was made. but there won't be a need for a game 5 thread. Hahaha...ZING!!! Excellent job, Chris! Couldn't have said it better myself!

10/9/07

0	Chris wrote: nope. a seperate thread was made. but there won't be a need for a game 5 thread. thats ok...just send me the thread to game 4 of the WS so i can laugh when Colorado wins the WS...(hence i didn't say it was gunna be against the Sox)

10/9/07

chad_is_god wrote:

thats ok...just send me the thread to game 4 of the WS so i can laugh when Colorado wins the WS...(hence i didn't say it was gunna be against the Sox)

if the Rockies beat the Red Sox... i freaking swear i will pound my head into a brick wall by the amount of times the Rockies score in the series... because that is jsut plain sad if we lose to a crap dumbass team like them! HELL no!

10/10/07

0	Chris wrote: if the Rockies beat the Red Sox... i freaking swear i will pound my head into a brick wall by the amount of times the Rockies score in the series... because that is jsut plain sad if we lose to a crap dumbass team like them! HELL no! this "crap dumbass team" won 17 of their last 18 including a sweep of Philly...Rockies are good!

10/10/07

0	$Big BANK Bob$ wrote: blog home is nothing but pages and pages of blogs from CF would you consider this good? NBA season is starting soon... http://www.faniq.com/article/200708-NBA-Season-Preview-172944,11/last/

10/11/07

0	Chris wrote: would you consider this good? NBA season is starting soon... http://www.faniq.com/article/200708-NBA-Season-Preview-172944,11/last/ I will check it out. I was just asking where everyones blogs are.I cant even find my own unless I post it under one of the leagues I commish as a topic.

10/11/07