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5/7/09
Manny Ramirez Did Not Test Positive, But Some Other Performance Enhancing Drug
It Looks Like Manny Didn't Test Positive for Steroids, But Instead For Something Else
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I think the immediate thought when any of us look at the Manny Ramirez story is that he used steroids. I mean, that was my initial thought.

Well, it seems that isn't the case.

Will Carroll, who runs Baseball Prospectus, and who I would trust on the same level as Buster Olney for my baseball news, is saying that Ramirez's suspension is less A-Rod and more JC Romero, the Phillies pitcher who was suspended 50 games for using a supplement that he got at a GNC store.

Anyhow, here are some of Carroll's recent tweets:

Just heard a report on what and why Ramirez tested positive. Working to confirm, but ... this is more Romero than A-Rod.

it's also sounding as if this isn't someone injecting themselves knowingly for pure PE.

Still trying to confirm, but a source tells me Ramirez did NOT test positive for an anabolic steroid #fb

What I know: not pot, not ADD, not greenies. #manny


Anyhow, this story is far from over, but it also seems pretty likely Manny didn't test positive for 'roids. So where does that leave us? Man, I have no clue. Some of this supplement stuff is in a pretty grey area. I mean, if he's not using 'roids, then I'm less mad about this, but how mad should I be?

Seriously, let me know your thoughts, and we'll try and find out what he tested positive for ASAP.

HT: Will Carroll Twitter feed
READ MORE: MLB, Los Angeles Dodgers
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5/7/09
7
Why is AROD not suspended?  I don't care about the testing dates and guidelines...No Integrity left in this game

5/7/09
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Does not surpise me but it's really a bummer, cause i'm a hudge Dodger fan and having one of the best seasons even to start off with and now this...hope it all goes well but he should have known better...

5/7/09
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 Whether it's steroids or not, it's on the ban list for a reason. Steroids aren't the only thing that can enhance (or in the case of pot diminish) performance. If it was questionable or out of the ordinary, it should have been discussed with his team and the MLB before taking it. That is what I have to do with my employer. Hell I was put on prednisone this week for an infection and had to report it. Steroids are steroids no matter what. I'm subject to random drug testing as well. There is no excuse for testing positive. Its so simple, if you aren't sure...ask. If you aren't asking well then that is a little suspicious in my book.

5/7/09
2
some banned substances are ridiculous so who knows how serious it is....The NCAA has caffeine as a banned substance and who knows if MLB too....maybe Manny drinks a lot of soda.

5/7/09
0
What I find funny is he didn't state it wasn't performance enhancing, just that it wasn't a steroid. Even if it was innocent, in this day and age why would you not clear any and all medication through your team before taking it unless you were trying to hide something. 

5/7/09
7
Why is AROD not suspended?  I don't care about the testing dates and guidelines...No Integrity left in this game

5/7/09
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chicachericola wrote:
What I find funny is he didn't state it wasn't performance enhancing, just that it wasn't a steroid. Even if it was innocent, in this day and age why would you not clear any and all medication through your team before taking it unless you were trying to hide something. 
In a drawer of knives, Manny would be the Butter one.

5/7/09
0
 Manny being Manny Stupid

5/7/09
0
flax seed oil......

5/7/09
0
 Hes just been workin out a whole lot in the off season ... those special protein shakes do wonders.

5/7/09
0
 if someone told me that he thought the surgery would go OK...I would have serious doubts as whether or not I would proceed forward. Clearly Manny wasn't too concerned. 

5/7/09
1
I'll be curious to know what he tested positive for.  Manny is a dope.  Although I don't believe he knowingly did this as some sinister act to become huge and hit 500 bombs, he used horrible judgment in not checking this out with MLB/MLBPA or team doctors before ingesting whatever it was.  He has hurt his team and embarrassed himself.  He has to face the music and serve his suspension.

5/7/09
3
"Banned Substance" does not equal "Something to make himself better".   Marijuana's on the list too, and I don't think anyone would consider that "performance enhancing".  Let's find out what he tested positive for first.

5/7/09
0
I actually believe Manny. Yes, he is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier. Scott Boras probably knows that brand of motor oil Ramirez puts in his car. The problem is that MLB either can't or doesn't feel comfortable listing each and every item you can find at the GNC or VitaminStores of the world. Then again, a Centrum multi-vitamin may have a trace of something objectionable to the higher-ups.

5/7/09
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Manny is huge talent and also a HUGE 'himbo' unlike Mr. Rodriguez most are predisposed to believe that he just took whatever he was handed no questions asked, however ignorance of the law is not innocence.

5/7/09
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5/7/09
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Frickin Manny

5/7/09
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It wasn't for performance enhancement and was for a medical condition....it wasn't to make him better (according to reports) maybe he took some pills for erectile disfunction or maybe he's got some STD's that need treatment and the drugs are banned by MLB!?  MLB has a lot of banned substances that are not performance enhancers...let's not be quick to judge (think Duke Lacrosse and not A-roid)

5/7/09
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While money can buy nearly anything, this simply adds to the already overwhelming evidence that it can't buy brains!!!...What an idiot!!...


5/7/09
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 Why are people jumping up saying PED's please don't.  He may have used he may not have but it's not roids and stop saying they are or HGH.  It's ignorant.

5/7/09
0
Stating it was a sexual enhancer --- Hmmm lets see steroids and a sexual enhancer now that could make for an interesting evening wouldn't ya think?

5/7/09
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How smart was Manny? Here it is everyone around him is getting caught and he still gets caught. Is it possible he wanted to get caught so he wouldn't have to play a whole season? But give me a break on the dumbest and DUMBASS thing you could do in this day and time!

5/7/09
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KingKobe wrote:
Does not surpise me but it's really a bummer, cause i'm a hudge Dodger fan and having one of the best seasons even to start off with and now this...hope it all goes well but he should have known better...
He knew better. He didn't want to play a whole season. Last year when he came to The Dodgers they came out of nowhere to get in the playoffs. I think he wanted to try that again.

5/7/09
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ArmyRebel wrote:
Stating it was a sexual enhancer --- Hmmm lets see steroids and a sexual enhancer now that could make for an interesting evening wouldn't ya think?
A professional athlete needing a sexual enhancer? Imagine that.

5/7/09
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steeltown wrote:
Frickin Manny
YES, He disappointed several fans around the country.

5/7/09
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steeltown wrote:
Thats right!!   Not a whole lot to say because you are not really surprised but very disappointed.

 
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