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10/31/08
Manny Ramirez Tops The List Of Free Agents Demanding Huge Contracts
Manny Turned Down 2 Years And $60M From The Dodgers. So... He's Expecting Something Better Than $30M Per Year?

For the mere price of $80 million for the next 4 years, Manny Being Manny could come to a city near you. Manny Ramirez was reportedly offered $60M over 2 years to stay with the Dodgers, but turned it down in hopes of receiving a long term deal.

As far as an annual salary is concerned, no one is going to offer him more than the $30M per year that the Dodgers offered. But it looks like Manny is more interested in something along the lines of 4 years at $20M per year.

Many people believe the Yankees will make a strong push for Manny. It would make some sense, since their lineup lacked the punch in 2008 that they had grown accustomed to, and Manny has the ability to bring that back.


While Manny has been one of the best hitters of our time, averaging .314, with 41 HR and 133 RBI per season throughout his career, he also has his fair share of drawbacks.

He will turn 37 early next season. While he hasn't shown any signs of slowing down yet, he's nearing the age when guys really hit the wall. Signing him to more than one or two years could prove to be very costly. He's also a liability in the field. While an AL team might be able to utilize him as a DH to avoid that problem, an NL team would simply have to tolerate his many lapses in the outfield. His biggest issue, however, is his attitude. At the end of his time in Boston, he completely stopped trying. He has had no problem freely admitting that he cares only about the money, going so far as to say "I want to see who is the highest bidder." His loyalty is shaky at best, and once he gets his contract, there's no telling what he will feel like offering the team, if the going gets rough.

That being said, the fact remains that when he's hitting well, he's the best hitter in baseball. He showed that at the end of this season, as he led the Dodgers into the postseason. In 53 games with the Dodgers, Manny batted .396 with 17 HR and 53 RBI. If he kept that pace for a full season, that would be 52 HR and 162 RBI. His numbers would have won the Triple Crown this year, had he maintained that pace for a full season.


Is Manny Ramirez worth $80M or more for the next 4+ years? It's hard to say, due to his sheer unpredictability. If he feels like playing, then he's worth it, beyond any shadow of a doubt. But he'll need to be handled with kid gloves. In less than 1/3 of a season, the Dodgers made over $10M in added attendance and merchandise revenue simply from Manny. If that's true, then maybe he IS worth over $20M per year. Even in a bad year, Manny is good for .300/25/90, and a few entertaining moments. He's a proven winner, and has an uncanny ability to come through in clutch situations.

Some teams that have been rumored to be interested in Manny are: the Yankees, Dodgers (obviously), Cubs and Mets. They are the typical big spenders that could afford someone like Ramirez, and they each could use another big bat in the outfield.

If I was running a team, there's no way I would sign Manny for more than 2 years at this point in his career. As much as $30M per year sounds like too much, I think the Dodgers had it right when they offered him a 2 year deal. The deal that he's looking for, which should be worth at least $80M over at least 4 years is just too long for someone as unpredictable as him, and quite frankly, he's getting too old.

If I had to guess, I'd say he signs with the Mets. Omar Minaya is a horrible GM, and will probably throw 5 years and $100M at him, and that will be enough for him to rejoin Pedro in the place where old Red Sox legends go to watch their career die.

Happy trails, Manny. This should be an interesting offseason.
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11/1/08
6
 this guy just amazes me....how could he turn down such an offer...as a yankee fan im praying that cashman and company have no plans on signing him....i feel like the mets may makethe move...but this guy has proven time and time again that he is not a team player....sure...when hes hot...there arent many that are better....but hes gettin old.....and if hes gonna be a distarction to a team....then whoneeds him!

10/31/08
5
(Edited by 100%InjuryRate)
What's impressive to me is how productive he's been as he's gotten older. And we all know this has nothing to do with steroids. I mean, he hit nearly .400 in his time with the Dodgers. Dude was just mashing. However, I think signing him for 4 years is nuts as well. He could suddenly break down at any time. It can happen all too quickly to baseball players, and the last thing you want is to be paying some guy $30 mil a year who's hurt or simply can't play at a high caliber anymore.

10/31/08
5
I thought the Dodgers were crazy when they offered that contract to Andruw Jones, now I know it as fact. $60 for 2 years?? I don't know who's nuttier, Manny or the Dodger GM?

10/31/08
6
TheRealScore wrote:
I thought the Dodgers were crazy when they offered that contract to Andruw Jones, now I know it as fact. $60 for 2 years?? I don't know who's nuttier, Manny or the Dodger GM?
I guess the good thing is that it's only 2 years, unlike the 7-year atrocity that the Giants gave to Barry Zito.

10/31/08
6
If Manny wants 4 years, it will be an AL team that gives it to him.  I don't think he's got 4 years of starting in the OF left in those tissue-paper hamstrings of his.

Personally I think he ends up in Los Angeles... with the Angels.  The Yankees need pitching and they know it.  Teixiera's off the books for the Halos, so why not pick him up as an OF/DH option?  Moreno will spend the money.

10/31/08
4
He's a fat pig

11/1/08
5
sad thing is the Dodgers knew he would turn down their offer and still made it. Scott Boaris has been all over LA radio last week plus saying Manny wouldnt take anything under 4 years and the Dodgers being the Dodgers still offered 2 years. The Dodgers know they wont be able to get Manny back so they made him an offer, to make it seem to the public that they're trying.

11/1/08
4
Doood is just friggin' nuts!!!!

11/1/08
6
 this guy just amazes me....how could he turn down such an offer...as a yankee fan im praying that cashman and company have no plans on signing him....i feel like the mets may makethe move...but this guy has proven time and time again that he is not a team player....sure...when hes hot...there arent many that are better....but hes gettin old.....and if hes gonna be a distarction to a team....then whoneeds him!

11/1/08
3
The guy is 36 years old............................ what does he want a 10 year deal?

11/1/08
5
All baseball players are overpaid. Period. Fair market value is Manny worth more than ARod? Short term, hell yeah. ARod should start giving money back to the Yankees if he can't start hitting in the clutch. Should Manny be looking for 4 years and big money? Nah. He's still getting old. It ain't worth the risk. The Dodgers made a smart offer, but who expects anyone with Scott Boras as their agent to do the right thing?

11/1/08
5
DLay wrote:
All baseball players are overpaid. Period. Fair market value is Manny worth more than ARod? Short term, hell yeah. ARod should start giving money back to the Yankees if he can't start hitting in the clutch. Should Manny be looking for 4 years and big money? Nah. He's still getting old. It ain't worth the risk. The Dodgers made a smart offer, but who expects anyone with Scott Boras as their agent to do the right thing?
"All baseball players are overpaid"

False. Welcome to capitalism.

11/1/08
2
No way, if my boss offers me 30 mil I turning it down to. hehehe!

11/1/08
2
When was the last time a team with a huge crippling contract won a championship? It sets your franchise back years. Unless he comes up with a timely World Series grand-slam.

11/1/08
1
Manny Ramirez Is a New Yorker. He's from Washington Heights, Northern Manhattan. If The Yankees or The Mets put the right offer on the table BELIEVE ME Manny will play for less. Why not finish your career in your home town?

11/1/08
0

Guess it just goes to show ya that a lepoard can't change his spots, even w/a little *white wash*.  I think it's really sad than an athlete of his ability has never developed as sense of *team*!  Must be lonely out there w/only you in your court.!  Kudos to you Dodgers for offering him a chance, ya did the right thing.  You've made some stupid decisions in your time Manny, but this one is gonna bite ya in ur butt!  I hope everyone hold strong and doesn't offer him more.. be interesting to see what he'll do if NO offeres are on the table.. *giggle*  Is MLB strong enough to do that?  *lol*... prolly not..


11/1/08
1
seal_warrior1 wrote:

Guess it just goes to show ya that a lepoard can't change his spots, even w/a little *white wash*.  I think it's really sad than an athlete of his ability has never developed as sense of *team*!  Must be lonely out there w/only you in your court.!  Kudos to you Dodgers for offering him a chance, ya did the right thing.  You've made some stupid decisions in your time Manny, but this one is gonna bite ya in ur butt!  I hope everyone hold strong and doesn't offer him more.. be interesting to see what he'll do if NO offeres are on the table.. *giggle*  Is MLB strong enough to do that?  *lol*... prolly not..

TRUST ME, METS or YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11/1/08
5
uptown7010 wrote:
TRUST ME, METS or YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As long as one of them are the highest bidder... which is a distinct possibility.

I think Manny has made it clear that he will go wherever the money is.

11/1/08
5
No wonder the Red Sox traded him. He's a selfish SOB! Anyone that signs him for more than 2 years is insane. As much as I love Barry Bonds, Manny should be in his category.

 
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