Mark Ingram Wins The 2009 Heisman Trophy

Your 2009 Heisman Trophy Winner: Alabama RB Mark Ingram

12/12/09 in NCAAF   |   Pat   |   5234 respect

Mark Ingram became the first Alabama player to take home the Heisman Trophy, beating out Nebraska DT Ndamukong Suh, Texas QB Colt McCoy, Stanford RB Toby Gerhart and Florida QB Tim Tebow in the closest race in Heisman history.

Ingram rushed for 1,542 yards and 15 touchdowns for Alabama, and became the 3rd straight sophomore to win the award, following Tebow and Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford.

Ingram finished with 1,304 total points and 227 first place votes, while Gerhart came in a close 2nd with 1,276 points including 222 first place votes. McCoy, Suh and Tebow finished 3rd, 4th and 5th respectively.
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4/29/10   |   MartinTide   |   1162 respect

ROLL TIDE!

Ingram had a monster year, especially with all the yards gained after contact!  I am however getting excited to think that...I think Trent Richardson is better.  I think once Ingram leaves after next season, the BEAST will come out and play!

12/20/09   |   zycougar   |   1 respect

Bamasweetie wrote:
no one really looks at the stats though and i do belive with my heart and soul that Ingram was one of the BEST players

dang straight

12/20/09   |   zycougar   |   1 respect

Bamasweetie wrote:
no offence but it doesnt matter at all what u say! Ingram won and there is nothing anyone can do about it so just sit back and be happy for Ingram

i hate bama but i still think mark ingram deserved it if the gators won he wouldnt have gotten the heismen

12/14/09   |   Bamasweetie

kantwistaye wrote:
I can be happy for Ingram and also think that its a joke he got the award.  He seems like a great guy and I wish him well, but he just did not deserve the award.  The beauty of the internet and this site is that we can debate this.

why is it a joke????If he didnt deserve it he wouldnt have been standing up there with the other 4.

12/13/09   |   kantwistaye   |   4219 respect

Bamasweetie wrote:
no offence but it doesnt matter at all what u say! Ingram won and there is nothing anyone can do about it so just sit back and be happy for Ingram

I can be happy for Ingram and also think that its a joke he got the award.  He seems like a great guy and I wish him well, but he just did not deserve the award.  The beauty of the internet and this site is that we can debate this.

12/13/09   |   Bamasweetie

idahoproducer wrote:
How many votes would Tebow have gotten IF they had beaten Alabama??  IF that had happened, I believe Colt would have taken it. But, voters had an opportunity to vote for a player from Bama, making history. And I think Tebow is so respected by voters, that swing votes went to the guy who helped bring down Tebow.
Being # 1 in the country very much helped, IMO. Ingram is great, don't get me wrong... But I don't believe he gets the trophy if Florida had beaten the Tide. Yes, I know... IF

I said Ingram was a lock. I even said trust me. My thought was not respected, because I had no statistics listed to support my claim. But, stats never tell the whole story, especially in the world of College Football. 
Voters, like players, are motivated by emotion.

that is only bad thing about college football is really an IF game. Dont get me wrong im a huge bama/Ingram fan but i have to agree with u i dont think Ingram would have won if the case was bama lost to Florida ecspecially after Mark's little slip up at the auburn game.

12/13/09   |   Bamasweetie

kantwistaye wrote:
Mark Ingram per game stats: 19 carries, 119 yards, 1 TD

John Clay per game stats: 22 carries, 116 yards, 1 TD

John Clay, because he didn't deserve it, got no Heisman attention.  Yet, his stats are very similar to Mark Ingram.  Quite honestly, neither Ingram nor Tebow should have been Heisman finalist.  The award loses a lot of legitimacy when Ingram wins it only because Alabama has never won one and Tebow gets invited only because he's a nice guy.  Suh and Gerhart were the runaway best players this year. Hard to believe neither one got the trophy.

no offence but it doesnt matter at all what u say! Ingram won and there is nothing anyone can do about it so just sit back and be happy for Ingram

12/13/09   |   Bamasweetie

vantiffin52 wrote:
Boo, hoo, hoo!  Can't you just accept the fact the Mark Ingram won it, or does the fact that Alabama finally has a Heisman winner just piss you off?  Fact it, the SEC IS the toughest conference in football, and if you need proof, three of the past four national champions have come from the SEC.  Ingram had his biggest games against the tougher D's of the SEC and a majority of the teams were ranked....Ole Miss, LSU, and Florida.  Not to mention how he played against VT in the Chick-Fil-A Kick Off Classic.  Yes, there were some very deserving candidates, but Ingram won it, so the debate is over!

idk why everyone keeps aurgueeing over if Ingram should have won. I belive he should have but even if he didnt it doesnt make a difference the votes are in and Ingram won that is all there is to it

12/13/09   |   Bamasweetie

idahoproducer wrote:
Ease up on Bama Sweetie. She is celebrating her Alma Mater.
Let her enjoy it

yeah thanks u and i will enjoy it

12/13/09   |   idahoproducer   |   130 respect

aos035 wrote:
You believe in your heart and soul that he deserved it?!?!?! That's probably the dumbest thing ever posted on the Q.

Ease up on Bama Sweetie. She is celebrating her Alma Mater.
Let her enjoy it

12/13/09   |   ClippaChick   |   67 respect

Toby should have won......Ingram had a good season but wasn't even close to Toby's season. Criteria for this award needs to be defined and explained so that everyone is on the same page with the voting.

12/13/09   |   aos035   |   68 respect

Bamasweetie wrote:
no one really looks at the stats though and i do belive with my heart and soul that Ingram was one of the BEST players

You believe in your heart and soul that he deserved it?!?!?! That's probably the dumbest thing ever posted on the Q.

12/13/09   |   Bamasweetie

danny_n94 wrote:
I love it when people claim a debate is over when the more deserving players got passed over for someone who didnt deserve to win. The heisman is suppose to be the BEST player of the season. Clearly Gerhart and Suh had better stats. Plus didnt anyone notice where Suh has better stats than the ENTIRE staring Dline of Bama

no one really looks at the stats though and i do belive with my heart and soul that Ingram was one of the BEST players

12/13/09   |   idahoproducer   |   130 respect

Scott wrote:

Close 2nd is an understatement.  ESPN just showed a graphic of the 1st place votes and somehow Boise State quarterback Kellen Moore got 10 of them.  Had the voters in and around Boise not made the homer pick, it's more then likely that Toby Gerhart would be the Heisman trophy winner right now

Or, they might have voted for Colt.  Or Suh.  Or Tebow.  He got 43 for a total of 390. If you listen to our leaders of the blog, they will tell you that TT deserved at least 100 points less. In fact, he deserved no points, because he should have never even been there. Which may be true. But, he was there. And he did draw 390.  You see... That's what homers do.  Look at McGrady in first place for All-Star balloting. Whenever you have human people voting, you have to understand that there are always intangibles.  Emotions. 
If computers chose the Heisman winner, Ingram would not have won. (IMO)

Figure at least 1 - ??  voters were emotionally motivated, either by the thought of Ingram's Dad, the fact no player from Bama has ever won, or many other things that could have entered voters minds. Heisman voting is not logical. Circular, or otherwise. 

Bama is undefeated. If they lose to UF, Ingram doesn't get the trophy, IMO.  Who does? I don't know, but  the hype is no longer on Ingram so heavily. He is discounted for the loss, and the game at Auburn accentuates him as weaker than other more deserving players.  If Nebraska beats Texas, and UF wins, I feel Suh would have got it, because the hype would have amplified his accomplishments. Oh yeah.. That word IF, again !!

Colt McCoy said tonight that the Heisman is a great honor, but that it's really a team award.  
Some people believe that the Heisman is just that... A team award. I learned that lesson after Gino Torretta won the award. College football, of all the sports, makes the least amount of sense. It is the only organization in the major sports that allows computers to decide who its champion is. Although I could see the argument that NASCAR is computer driven.

In NCAAF, you are not guaranteed anything if you win all your games. In other sports, win all your games and you're the champion.  The system the NCAAF uses is flawed. It makes for great debate, but remains flawed, because it leaves room for "what if" speculation.

12/13/09   |   Scott   |   54574 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Two thoughts:

1.) Gerhart was a close 2nd. I wonder what would've happened if he got to play the last week of the season and make a statement like Ingram did.

2.) McCoy got over 200 first place votes. I wonder how many of those were handed in before the Big 12 title game.

Close 2nd is an understatement.  ESPN just showed a graphic of the 1st place votes and somehow Boise State quarterback Kellen Moore got 10 of them.  Had the voters in and around Boise not made the homer pick, it's more then likely that Toby Gerhart would be the Heisman trophy winner right now

12/13/09   |   MrOrangeman   |   42 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Two thoughts:

1.) Gerhart was a close 2nd. I wonder what would've happened if he got to play the last week of the season and make a statement like Ingram did.

2.) McCoy got over 200 first place votes. I wonder how many of those were handed in before the Big 12 title game.

6% of Heisman votes were handed in before last weekend's games.

12/13/09   |   aos035   |   68 respect

Once again #2 Texas has to play "super team" in the national championship game after having our deserving quarterback lose the heisman only to come back and lead an air assault in the title game.

Or have we forgotten.......

12/13/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

vantiffin52 wrote:
No, just amused at the comments of loser and haters like you! Just bugs the Hell out of you that a kid from Alabama won it, doesn't it? And, if the SEC isn't the toughest conference in the nation, then which conference has a team playing for all the marbles in January? Pac Ten.....ah nope, Big Ten(plus one), nope, Independent.......nope, MWC......ah nope. It boils down to the SEC and the Big 12, winner take all, but, again, strength of conference is shown by the number of teams playing in MAJOR BOWLS, number of teams ranked in the Top 25, and number of national championships the conference has won. Your winner........SEC! Enjoy, and don't let your ignorance stop you from seeing the facts as they truly are!
(Edited by Chief_aka_James)

Really? My ignorance?

Did I say anywhere here that Mark Ingram didn't deserve the Heisman, or that the University of Alabama had a damn thing to do with it? What's that, no? Are you making assumptions because all you have is your stupid "loser and haters" argument to attempt at thinking you're right for one measly second? Yes. I believe so.

Also, I'd let you know that just because the #1 and #2 teams meet in the NC game, doesn't mean that they were in the best conference. It just means that they were the best two teams. Big XII actually being considered the 2nd best conference because Texas is in the NC game? Hell no. SEC was average at best this season, because, in case you haven't figured out by now - the best conference would include ALL teams from that conference, not just the top tier.

In my opinion, the Pac 10 was all-around the best conference in the country this season, and I think you'd find there are several people that agree with me on that.

To be honest, Mark Ingram winning nor it being someone from Alabama winning didn't bother me at all, I wasn't bugged, I simply put that I believed Gerhart and Suh were probably deserving of the Heisman because of numbers they put up and the dominance that they showed against their competition that I found to be greater than what Ingram did against his.

What is bugging the hell out of me now is some homer fan that has absolutely nothing to back up his opinions and goes for petty attacks to try and make himself feel better when he should just be happy that his favorite teams' Heisman hopeful won tonight. Instead, he chooses to be some ignorant and moronic 46-year old man that's acting as if he was 10.

12/13/09   |   vantiffin52   |   1054 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Fact it, the SEC IS the toughest conference in football, and if you need proof, three of the past four national champions have come from the SEC.

What the hell does 3 of the last 4 champions have to do with the "fact" that the SEC is the toughest conference in football this year? Anything to base that off of this years teams, being, you do know teams change from year to year, right?

Ingram had his biggest games against the tougher D's of the SEC and a majority of the teams were ranked....Ole Miss, LSU, and Florida.

And we're just going to forget that hiccup against Auburn, a hiccup that neither Suh nor Gerhart had this season?

Yes, there were some very deserving candidates, but Ingram won it, so the debate is over!

This is when the debate usually begins. Are you new to this sports thing?

No, just amused at the comments of loser and haters like you! Just bugs the Hell out of you that a kid from Alabama won it, doesn't it? And, if the SEC isn't the toughest conference in the nation, then which conference has a team playing for all the marbles in January? Pac Ten.....ah nope, Big Ten(plus one), nope, Independent.......nope, MWC......ah nope. It boils down to the SEC and the Big 12, winner take all, but, again, strength of conference is shown by the number of teams playing in MAJOR BOWLS, number of teams ranked in the Top 25, and number of national championships the conference has won. Your winner........SEC! Enjoy, and don't let your ignorance stop you from seeing the facts as they truly are!

12/13/09   |   danny_n94   |   114 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
Fact it, the SEC IS the toughest conference in football, and if you need proof, three of the past four national champions have come from the SEC.

What the hell does 3 of the last 4 champions have to do with the "fact" that the SEC is the toughest conference in football this year? Anything to base that off of this years teams, being, you do know teams change from year to year, right?

Ingram had his biggest games against the tougher D's of the SEC and a majority of the teams were ranked....Ole Miss, LSU, and Florida.

And we're just going to forget that hiccup against Auburn, a hiccup that neither Suh nor Gerhart had this season?

Yes, there were some very deserving candidates, but Ingram won it, so the debate is over!

This is when the debate usually begins. Are you new to this sports thing?

I love it when people claim a debate is over when the more deserving players got passed over for someone who didnt deserve to win. The heisman is suppose to be the BEST player of the season. Clearly Gerhart and Suh had better stats. Plus didnt anyone notice where Suh has better stats than the ENTIRE staring Dline of Bama

12/12/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

vantiffin52 wrote:
Boo, hoo, hoo!  Can't you just accept the fact the Mark Ingram won it, or does the fact that Alabama finally has a Heisman winner just piss you off?  Fact it, the SEC IS the toughest conference in football, and if you need proof, three of the past four national champions have come from the SEC.  Ingram had his biggest games against the tougher D's of the SEC and a majority of the teams were ranked....Ole Miss, LSU, and Florida.  Not to mention how he played against VT in the Chick-Fil-A Kick Off Classic.  Yes, there were some very deserving candidates, but Ingram won it, so the debate is over!

Fact it, the SEC IS the toughest conference in football, and if you need proof, three of the past four national champions have come from the SEC.

What the hell does 3 of the last 4 champions have to do with the "fact" that the SEC is the toughest conference in football this year? Anything to base that off of this years teams, being, you do know teams change from year to year, right?

Ingram had his biggest games against the tougher D's of the SEC and a majority of the teams were ranked....Ole Miss, LSU, and Florida.

And we're just going to forget that hiccup against Auburn, a hiccup that neither Suh nor Gerhart had this season?

Yes, there were some very deserving candidates, but Ingram won it, so the debate is over!

This is when the debate usually begins. Are you new to this sports thing?

12/12/09   |   vantiffin52   |   1054 respect

kantwistaye wrote:
Mark Ingram per game stats: 19 carries, 119 yards, 1 TD

John Clay per game stats: 22 carries, 116 yards, 1 TD

John Clay, because he didn't deserve it, got no Heisman attention.  Yet, his stats are very similar to Mark Ingram.  Quite honestly, neither Ingram nor Tebow should have been Heisman finalist.  The award loses a lot of legitimacy when Ingram wins it only because Alabama has never won one and Tebow gets invited only because he's a nice guy.  Suh and Gerhart were the runaway best players this year. Hard to believe neither one got the trophy.

Boo, hoo, hoo!  Can't you just accept the fact the Mark Ingram won it, or does the fact that Alabama finally has a Heisman winner just piss you off?  Fact it, the SEC IS the toughest conference in football, and if you need proof, three of the past four national champions have come from the SEC.  Ingram had his biggest games against the tougher D's of the SEC and a majority of the teams were ranked....Ole Miss, LSU, and Florida.  Not to mention how he played against VT in the Chick-Fil-A Kick Off Classic.  Yes, there were some very deserving candidates, but Ingram won it, so the debate is over!

12/12/09   |   kantwistaye   |   4219 respect

(Edited by Chief_aka_James)

Mark Ingram per game stats: 19 carries, 119 yards, 1 TD

John Clay per game stats: 22 carries, 116 yards, 1 TD

John Clay, because he didn't deserve it, got no Heisman attention.  Yet, his stats are very similar to Mark Ingram.  Quite honestly, neither Ingram nor Tebow should have been Heisman finalist.  The award loses a lot of legitimacy when Ingram wins it only because Alabama has never won one and Tebow gets invited only because he's a nice guy.  Suh and Gerhart were the runaway best players this year. Hard to believe neither one got the trophy.

12/12/09   |   idahoproducer   |   130 respect

Chief_aka_James wrote:
You said it was a lock, you even said "trust you". 28 points was not a lock by any stretch of the imagination nor did you have any rhyme or reason to say two such moronic things.

You simply went with the frontrunner directly after the SEC championship game, congrats. You went with hundreds of thousands of other fans that did the same thing that didn't even need to watch a game by any of these five players all season long.

Actually, what I said was, "Trust me". I even gave credit to Risky Business for having given me the line. Come on James.. You know how I am about movie quotes. 

I said it was a lock because it was up in the air and I wanted to be decisive. I think my logic concerning split votes holds water. I don't believe Ingram would have won had they lost to UF.

12/12/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

idahoproducer wrote:
How many votes would Tebow have gotten IF they had beaten Alabama??  IF that had happened, I believe Colt would have taken it. But, voters had an opportunity to vote for a player from Bama, making history. And I think Tebow is so respected by voters, that swing votes went to the guy who helped bring down Tebow.
Being # 1 in the country very much helped, IMO. Ingram is great, don't get me wrong... But I don't believe he gets the trophy if Florida had beaten the Tide. Yes, I know... IF

I said Ingram was a lock. I even said trust me. My thought was not respected, because I had no statistics listed to support my claim. But, stats never tell the whole story, especially in the world of College Football. 
Voters, like players, are motivated by emotion.

You said it was a lock, you even said "trust you". 28 points was not a lock by any stretch of the imagination nor did you have any rhyme or reason to say two such moronic things.

You simply went with the frontrunner directly after the SEC championship game, congrats. You went with hundreds of thousands of other fans that did the same thing that didn't even need to watch a game by any of these five players all season long.

12/12/09   |   idahoproducer   |   130 respect

How many votes would Tebow have gotten IF they had beaten Alabama??  IF that had happened, I believe Colt would have taken it. But, voters had an opportunity to vote for a player from Bama, making history. And I think Tebow is so respected by voters, that swing votes went to the guy who helped bring down Tebow.
Being # 1 in the country very much helped, IMO. Ingram is great, don't get me wrong... But I don't believe he gets the trophy if Florida had beaten the Tide. Yes, I know... IF

I said Ingram was a lock. I even said trust me. My thought was not respected, because I had no statistics listed to support my claim. But, stats never tell the whole story, especially in the world of College Football. 
Voters, like players, are motivated by emotion.

12/12/09   |   drn0iswatr   |   731 respect

Congrats to Ingram - he ran well all year long. I am bummed that a boy named Sue didn't place higher - that kid is amazing. 

12/12/09   |   bamahowler88   |   29 respect

Congrats to Alabama's Mark Ingram for becoming Alabama's 1st Heisman Trophy winner in the school's history
ROLLLLLL FREAKIN' TIDE

12/12/09   |   danny_n94   |   114 respect

Ingram had a fine year, but compared to Gerhart and Suh he should have finished 3rd. There is a definate bonus playing in the SEC vs the Pac-10 (and not being on USC). Its a flawed system, but we should be use to that seeing how there is no playoff sysem.

12/12/09   |   gmchubbaggie2017

all other finalists had good seasons and have bright futures...
congrats to mark ingram

12/12/09   |   Bamasweetie

haha im taking it u dont like Tebow much

12/12/09   |   Bamasweetie

gobigblue1960 wrote:
That's why i think the Heisman ballots should be in before any conference championship games. It's clear that Ingram won because of his performance, and that McCoy was hurt by his, and after all the Suh talk, he finished 4th. I still think C.J. Spiller should have won based on his entire season. In my mind, he passed McCoy, who i picked mid-season. Tim Tebow is to be congratulated on a fine college Career, but his 5th place finish makes the case that Spiller had a better year, and should have been rewarded for the effort.

Tim is outstanding player and will be remembered as one of the greatest QB (in college at least) he is not only a great player but  a wonderful person and leader i hope he does well in the NFL 

12/12/09   |   gobigblue1960   |   4805 respect

Eric_ wrote:
Two thoughts:

1.) Gerhart was a close 2nd. I wonder what would've happened if he got to play the last week of the season and make a statement like Ingram did.

2.) McCoy got over 200 first place votes. I wonder how many of those were handed in before the Big 12 title game.

That's why i think the Heisman ballots should be in before any conference championship games. It's clear that Ingram won because of his performance, and that McCoy was hurt by his, and after all the Suh talk, he finished 4th. I still think C.J. Spiller should have won based on his entire season. In my mind, he passed McCoy, who i picked mid-season. Tim Tebow is to be congratulated on a fine college Career, but his 5th place finish makes the case that Spiller had a better year, and should have been rewarded for the effort.

12/12/09   |   Chief_aka_James   |   3307 respect

kramer wrote:
 Wait, Tebow finished 5th?  There IS a God!

43 first place votes.

Nit-picky, sure, but I can't get over that.

12/12/09   |   kramer   |   11004 respect

 Wait, Tebow finished 5th?  There IS a God!

12/12/09   |   Bamasweetie

BAMA_73 wrote:
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!! Congratulations Mark Ingram!

I am with u!Im so glad ingram won and think he deserved it!!!im sure this means a lot to him and im so very happy for him

12/12/09   |   Bamasweetie

Eric_ wrote:
Two thoughts:

1.) Gerhart was a close 2nd. I wonder what would've happened if he got to play the last week of the season and make a statement like Ingram did.

2.) McCoy got over 200 first place votes. I wonder how many of those were handed in before the Big 12 title game.

yeah i would have liked to see how things would have turned out if that was the case

12/12/09   |   BAMA_73   |   68 respect

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!! Congratulations Mark Ingram!

12/12/09   |   Eric_   |   7716 respect

Two thoughts:

1.) Gerhart was a close 2nd. I wonder what would've happened if he got to play the last week of the season and make a statement like Ingram did.

2.) McCoy got over 200 first place votes. I wonder how many of those were handed in before the Big 12 title game.