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11/25/08
Matt Ryan Called The Best Rookie Quarterback Ever. Is That True?
Is Matt Ryan The Best Rookie QB Ever? He Just Might Be.

There are times in life where you're well aware that you're watching history being made. It can be something universal, like the fall of the Berlin Wall, or it can something much more specific, like Fresno State becoming the lowest seeded team ever to win the College World Series. I'm not suggesting that Fresno State winning the College World Series is anywhere near the same level as the fall of the Berlin Wall, but there's the thought in your head in both cases that what you're watching does have historical value.

However, there are other times where we're not so sure that what we're watching is in fact historical or even noteworthy - even though it is. And that might just be what's happening this year with Matt Ryan.

In fact, Mark Bradley of the Atlanta Journal Constitution is already making a pretty bold claim, and here it is:

"In Matt Ryan, we are watching the greatest rookie quarterback ever."

Although, you know what, maybe it isn't really that bold of a statement after all. It might just be the truth.

Now, before you fly off the handle and start going nuts, like tons of people did in the comments section of Bradley's article, remember this. This is NOT a question of who is the best quarterback ever, which most people tend to forget during an argument of this nature. And it is not about which QB was the best once he finally got to start for real, like Montana or Brady. This is an argument about a rookie quarterback coming in and playing significantly in his first season in the league, and which one played the best under that scenario.

And when you start to look at the best rookie seasons ever, if Ryan isn't #1 right now, he definitely has a chance to be there by season's end. Ryan is currently leading a team that is 7-4, but was projected by the Sporting News to go 1-15. His current QB rating is 88.3, he's completed 60% of his passes, and he's started every game.

Even more impressive, he's done this for a team that was a complete and utter mess last season. Last year included not just the Michael Vick fiasco, but also Bobby Petrino fleeing town before the end of the season. The team was a complete mess. Now, they're a legit playoff contendor, especially after having beaten the Panthers this past Sunday.

So now, let's look at the competition.

Bradley goes through the usual suspects, like Fran Tarkenton, Dan Marino, and Ben Roethlisberger. Tarkenton is somewhat easy to ignore since the expansion Vikings won only three games his rookie year, despite the fact that he put up reasonably impressive numbers. Marino didn't start for the Dolphins until the sixth game of his rookie season, but he led the Dolphins to the playoffs, in the process becoming the first rookie QB to lead a conference in passing. He also set a rookie record with a 96 passer rating, and became the first rookie QB to start in the Pro Bowl. One has to remember though that the Dolphins went to the Super Bowl the year before Marino was a rookie (during the strike shortened '82 season), meaning he wasn't exactly playing on a crappy squad. Roethlisberger, meanwhile, is tossed aside by Bradley because he played for a stacked team and wasn't asked to do more than manage games his rookie season. Sort of the reverse-Tarkenton, if you will.

But Bradley misses one guy who is actually frequently regarded as the greatest rookie QB in NFL history, even better than Marino. That would be Greg Cook, who played for the 1969 Bengals. As a rookie with a second-year expansion team, Cook led the team to huge upset wins over the two best teams in football, the Chiefs and Raiders, and led the AFL in passer rating, despite being hurt for the majority of the year with a shoulder injury (this is what significantly separates him from Tarkenton). Cook managed to lead the team to a 4-6-1 record while under center (he missed three games with the injury), a remarkable feat for such an awful team. Cook was also mentored by a very young Bill Walsh (an assistant head coach at the time), who once described Cook as a player who could throw like Dan Marino and move around and see the field like Joe Montana. Cook also averaged 17.5 yards per completion and holds the rookie record for average yards per attempt, 9.41. Cook unfortunately hurt his shoulder again in the offseason and only played in one more game in his career.

Considering the competition, Ryan compares most favorably to Cook. Both were rookies coming into extremely unfavorable circumstances - Cook a 2nd-year expansion team, Ryan a team that was practically an expansion team - and both performed incredibly well. I realize Ryan's season isn't over just yet, but considering Cook played only 11 games his rookie season, now is the perfect time to compare the two. Both have essentially identical passer ratings (Cook: 88; Ryan: 88.3) through 11 games, while Cook has the slight edge in touchdowns (Cook: 15; Ryan: 11).

The one thing that may separate Cook from Ryan, is that Cook didn't have Michael Turner in the backfield. Cook had two running backs who combined rushed for about 1050 yards in 14 games. Turner, alone, has already rushed for 1088 yards in only 11 games. There's no question that Turner has been a godsend for Ryan.

There's also a more than legit argument for Marino here too, especially if you're going by sheer numbers. Marino is the rookie gold standard by numbers, but again, he has the Roethlisberger-like advantage of having been playing for a good team.

In conclusion, it wouldn't be out of line to say that Matt Ryan - currently - is one of the three greatest rookie QBs ever. Asked to do much more than manage games, Ryan has done remarkably well. I'd rank him behind Cook and Marino currently, but he could very well pass both men if he leads the Falcons to the playoffs this season.

We'll see what happens, as Ryan is now in uncharted waters (Games 12-16) that Cook and Marino never saw during their rookie campaigns. I know one thing though, I'll definitely be watching.
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11/25/08
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No.

11/25/08
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I think you could make an argument. Marino was still is the best rookie, but like was pointed out, he had a team that was coming off of a SB appearance.
Great research and good stuff.

11/25/08
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excellent argument...he's a huge part of this team...and is cool under pressure...i dont kno about best ever...but certainly top 5 rookie qb's


11/25/08
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Good argument, though we still have a few more weeks.     Hard to argue against Marino & Big Ben, with their respective rookie years.      Good dig on Cook; I did not know he was a rookie that year.     How about some others here too for consideration:

- Kyle Orton.     As a rookie, he went 10 & 5 with Da Bears in 2005.     And, he was not named starting QB until the week before his first game !      That was the whole Chad Hutchinson experiment that pre-season.    Wonder what he is doing right now ?    So, for a rookie QB to have basically zero practice time with the starting offensive unit, and still win 10 games, should be considered.
- Peyton Manning in his rookie season (1998) threw 26 TD's and for over 3,700 yards.     Yeah, he did have 28 int's, but as a rookie to be 3rd in passing yardage is very, very impressive.
- Drew Bledsoe in 1993 threw for 15 TDs & only 15 int's, and for almost 2,500 yards, while only starting 12 games.
- Kerry Collins started 13 games in 1995 for expansion Carolina, winning 7 games, throwing for over 2,700 yards & 14 TD's
- In 1986, Jim Kelly thew for over 3,500 yards and 22 TD's for Buffalo.    (technically, he played in the USFL, but he was an NFL rookie that year)
- In 1979, Phil Simms won 6 out of 11 games started, throwing for 13 TD's and over 1,700 yards
- In 1948 (yup !), Y.A. Tittle threw for over 2,500 yards, 16 TD's & only 9 int's for the Baltimore Colts.    He also rushed for 4 TD's as well.
- In 1973, Joe Ferguson went 9 & 5 as a rookie QB.    Granted, he handed off to OJ most of the time, but still 9 & 5 !
- In 1997, Jake Plummer threw for over 2,200 yards & 15 TD's, in only 9 starts !!
- Joe Namath in 1965 threw for over 2,200 yards & 18 TD's
- In 1971, Jim Plunkett threw for over 2,100 yards & 19 TD's
- In 2006 Jay Cutler, in only 5 games, threw for over 1,000 yards & 9 TD's
- And last, at least alphabetically, Jim Zorn threw for over 2,500 yards & 12 TD's for the expansion Seattle Seahawks

Ryan is off to a great start, no doubt, and he certainly will be in the discussion of 'Best Rookier QB' - let's wait & see how the rest of the season plays out, but I'd say he has a great chance to at least be 'Top 5', and if his team finishes strong, a case could be made for # 1 for sure.

11/25/08
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I tend to wait until the season is over to have discussions like this, especially when it's a player on one of my teams (I'm a tad bit superstitious).  So if Ryan gets hurt and/or the Falcons completely fall in the crapper this season, I'll be paying you a visit, Geoff.

I'm one of those guys that has a hard time comparing players today to those in the past.  QB's, on average, throw the ball more now, play more games, and have wide receivers that are much more athletic to throw to.  I know it's fun to compare numbers, but I'm just kind of boring like that.

But don't worry.  If the Falcons have a great season and Ryan continues to improve and play well, you probably won't be able to shut me up about him.

11/25/08
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Well he is one of the main reasons Atlanta Falcons, and  Falcons are my team this year with the Colts.  I mean I'm not trying to say that he is the best rookie QB every, or he's the worst(well he's definitely not the worst.). It's still to early to tell You'll have to wait and see how he does the rest of the season and how he does in the playoffs ( that's where every things one the line, win or go home, put up or shut up. nothing else matters. where all the top teams play.) then after that  we can start to comparing him to the past and present rookie QB's of The NFL. And I'm going to tell you this last thing Matt Ryan is going to be the winner of the 08-09 NFL Rookie of the Year Award this year.

11/25/08
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Good article, but you forgot about Tim Couch, lol..  Ryan is definitely shocking the so called "experts" and he's doing with a team that was torn to shreds from one end to the other so to say is he the best rookie Qb?, thats opinoned based, my opinion, he's doing one heck of a job and he is if not number #1, in the top 3 definitely...

11/25/08
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Absolutely not.

11/25/08
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Roethlisberger played marginally better than Tommy Maddox that first year. Ryan is playing head and shoulders better than anyone the Falcons have had at QB for the last couple years.

 
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